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Does anyone know how much the William Powell track "Heartache Souvenirs" on Power-House went for last week on ebay,just intrested.

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Does anyone know how much the William Powell track "Heartache Souvenirs" on Power-House went for last week on ebay,just intrested.

$3,383 :hatsoff2:

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About £2100 I forgot to bid on it always wanted a copy.

I think I know who got it but I'll keep it to myself, and I reckon he'll be happy with that price.

Cheers Darren

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Hi, it went for $3383.00 USD

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About £2100 I forgot to bid on it always wanted a copy.

I think I know who got it but I'll keep it to myself, and I reckon he'll be happy with that price.

Cheers Darren

dosnt everyone want one daz?, whoever won that got a bargain at that price when you consider what it has sold for in recent years. i know a lot of folk hate it, but to me it appeals because of its sparce production and the simple lyrics and equally simple, plaintive vocals

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Sorry, just seen the replies (shouldn't have gone for my tea before replying)!

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dosnt everyone want one daz?, whoever won that got a bargain at that price when you consider what it has sold for in recent years. i know a lot of folk hate it, but to me it appeals because of its sparce production and the simple lyrics and equally simple, plaintive vocals

Couldn't agree more although plenty will be gathering rocks to chuck at us, better get our hard hats

Great tune imo

Best Darren

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wasnt a great copy either......seeing as you all have your hard hats on i wont throw anything

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cheers everyone,know it was only a vg+ copy,so that price is maybe reet, £4,000 in Manships book,i like it missen,last time i heard it played out were at Prestatyn, about 2006.

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Prefer the Little Howard Rice on Powerhouse with the same label # as this, a darn sight cheaper too :thumbsup:

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cheers everyone,know it was only a vg+ copy,so that price is maybe reet, £4,000 in Manships book,i like it missen,last time i heard it played out were at Prestatyn, about 2006.

Come to Denby Dale Pie Hall on 4th January and I'll play it for you :thumbup:

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Does anyone know if it's the William Powell from the O'Jays?

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Interesting comments from a  Soul Source "guest" in the last post on the thread on "Heartache Souvenirs" producer Miles Grayson .

 

 

 

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mark.w, on Sep 30 2007, 10:22 PM, said:snapback.png

Ask him where all the copies of William Powell "Heartache Souveniers" are, then PM me so I can have one thumbsup.gif

Would be interested to hear the story behind that classic record.



I'm pretty sure Wiliam Powell owned a record store in LA when he did the Power-House tracks. Sometime around this coming out he was shot. May be something like the story of "Try Me(For Your New Love)" and Junior Mccants family having the record pulled after his death. 

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Thanks, it sounds a bit like the story of John Dolphin too. I'm going another way in my research and should know if I'm correct in a day or so. Ady

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Wouldn't have thought it was the late William Powell of the O'jays because he could actually sing  :shhh:  :D

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I doubt they are the same person....

 

As you know the O'Jays started off in Ohio and had a solid career ... I've struggled for years to find info on William Powell but it seems he was a peer of the Pipkin Brothers & Brice Coefield working as a songwriter in L.A.

 

He composed the Cinderellas 45 on Tamara in 1964 and I'm pretty sure, but haven't had time to check, that he had a couple more tunes published by Jobete ... the Pipkins & Brice were also connected to Motown via the West Coast office through Hal Davis & Marc Gordon.

 

Additionally he had songs placed with Gary Paxton so he might be able to shed some light given the Ace connection

 

http://repertoire.bmi.com/writer.asp?blnWriter=True&blnPublisher=True&blnArtist=True&page=1&fromrow=1&torow=25&querytype=WriterID&keyid=274196&keyname=POWELL+WILLIAM&CAE=39933649&Affiliation=NA

 

 

If you look at BMI, as you connect from co-composers, I get the impression that they have merged the L.A. William with the O'Jays William ... but I'm happy to be proved wrong as stranger things have happened

 

Andy

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Never even saw that - gutted!

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I doubt they are the same person....

 

As you know the O'Jays started off in Ohio and had a solid career ... I've struggled for years to find info on William Powell but it seems he was a peer of the Pipkin Brothers & Brice Coefield working as a songwriter in L.A.

 

He composed the Cinderellas 45 on Tamara in 1964 and I'm pretty sure, but haven't had time to check, that he had a couple more tunes published by Jobete ... the Pipkins & Brice were also connected to Motown via the West Coast office through Hal Davis & Marc Gordon.

 

Additionally he had songs placed with Gary Paxton so he might be able to shed some light given the Ace connection

 

http://repertoire.bmi.com/writer.asp?blnWriter=True&blnPublisher=True&blnArtist=True&page=1&fromrow=1&torow=25&querytype=WriterID&keyid=274196&keyname=POWELL+WILLIAM&CAE=39933649&Affiliation=NA

 

 

If you look at BMI, as you connect from co-composers, I get the impression that they have merged the L.A. William with the O'Jays William ... but I'm happy to be proved wrong as stranger things have happened

 

Andy

Thanks Andy, the Paxton line is the correct one. I didn't know about the Cinderellas so that was useful too. Cheers Ady

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Thanks Andy, the Paxton line is the correct one. I didn't know about the Cinderellas so that was useful too. Cheers Ady

 

I'm pretty sure Mick Patrick has a copy of the Cinderellas 45

 

Andy

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been led to believe by my great mate ady dundas,that he found the 1st copy on a trip to the states with dave raistrick and arthur fenn ,am sure arthur could confirm this

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Dave wasn't there Sammy, it was me & Mario  :D 

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Oh & i still maintain it was at John Taylor's place for a $  :thumbup: 

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cheers everyone,know it was only a vg+ copy,so that price is maybe reet, £4,000 in Manships book,i like it missen,last time i heard it played out were at Prestatyn, about 2006.

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sorry for my wrong information arthur,remember ady mentioning mario now but you both went with dave once though didn`t you,so who pulled it it out ist?

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Ady pulled it  :D  . While we were there in Texas Dave was upt north pulling tracks like Larry Clinton & L Allan . Still have a W.P, love it to bits!

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Oh & i still maintain it was at John Taylor's place for a $ :thumbup:

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Arthur it was deffo not John Taylor's were we found it, I found it in a box on the floor at the record shop we went to in Denton, must be your age mate affecting the old grey matter. Lol

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I doubt they are the same person....

 

As you know the O'Jays started off in Ohio and had a solid career ... I've struggled for years to find info on William Powell but it seems he was a peer of the Pipkin Brothers & Brice Coefield working as a songwriter in L.A.

 

He composed the Cinderellas 45 on Tamara in 1964 and I'm pretty sure, but haven't had time to check, that he had a couple more tunes published by Jobete ... the Pipkins & Brice were also connected to Motown via the West Coast office through Hal Davis & Marc Gordon.

 

Additionally he had songs placed with Gary Paxton so he might be able to shed some light given the Ace connection

 

http://repertoire.bmi.com/writer.asp?blnWriter=True&blnPublisher=True&blnArtist=True&page=1&fromrow=1&torow=25&querytype=WriterID&keyid=274196&keyname=POWELL+WILLIAM&CAE=39933649&Affiliation=NA

 

 

If you look at BMI, as you connect from co-composers, I get the impression that they have merged the L.A. William with the O'Jays William ... but I'm happy to be proved wrong as stranger things have happened

 

Andy

 

 

It wouldn't be the first time BMI have merged two writers with the same name together

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Have we got definitive release years for the Power-House 45s?? 64, 65 or 66?

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dosnt everyone want one daz?, whoever won that got a bargain at that price when you consider what it has sold for in recent years. i know a lot of folk hate it, but to me it appeals because of its sparce production and the simple lyrics and equally simple, plaintive vocals

A proper lads record.

This exemplifies what rare northern soul is all about.

Hands up those that have danced to this with no shirt on.

Derek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLKG080yS0g

 

 

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