I don't watch too much TV lately but just watching bit of the England game and ads come on at half time when I hear Mel Torme on the latest Autotrader Ad.

I know it, probably from sort of stuff my Mum used to play on the 8 track in Cortina in 70s when I was a kid, and whilst maybe not for posting up on a Rare Soul Forum, I have to be honest that it did bring a smile to my face as some sounds just do dont they, soul or not? I reckon I'd even dance to it if I heard it out somewhere, in the moment and all that.

Guessing it's been played out and danced to at Northern soul nights in years gone by. Would that be right? Any more on it in terms of when and where (and no doubt someone will say "why?!" Lol).

Doo do do....do do do doo bee doo be doo.....

Come on, let me off...it is Friday night and they're 6-0 up!

Edited March 22, 201312 yr by 71 Steve

Why?  !  

comin' home baby - old wheel tune I think............derided by the elitists - "blue-eyed non-soul"...........still gets played out and I think it sounds as cool as f*ck

Why?  !  

 

  Very good Dave.

 

I've edited title of post as I guess where I was trying to go here is that hearing it, somehow got me wondering about some of the real EARLY 60's records (soul or not, loathed now by many or otherwise) which, for one reason or another, started getting played out at soul nights here in late 60's / early 70's. Was this one of the earliest being released in '62? 

 

I like to understand the past to appreciate the present, and all that.

Charles Sheffield is probably the earliest regular Northern Soul play - recorded in  about 1961 if my memory serves me right.

jimmy mccracklin the walk was played at wigan thats 59 i think

Just remembered another earlier one - Irma Thomas - Don't mess with my man - 1960

fats domino keeps raining

jimmy mccracklin the walk was played at wigan thats 59 i think

1957.

 

Didn't realize it had 'Northern' plays.

jimmy mccracklin the walk was played at wigan thats 59 i think

 

F*ck me that's the same age as me!!!..............................bet it's in better nik though 

Charles Sheffield is probably the earliest regular Northern Soul play - recorded in  about 1961 if my memory serves me right.

 

comin' home baby - old wheel tune I think............derided by the elitists - "blue-eyed non-soul"...........still gets played out and I think it sounds as cool as f*ck

 

Interestin'. Thanks. Just pulled out a CD comp of some early Twisted Wheel things and earliest record they chose to include on that little snap shot of the story was from '62...Bunker Bill - Hide & Go Seek. Most of what's included and written about in the sleeve notes is '66 onwards.

 

I just sometimes wonder, drift off, about how much must have been going on back then, musically and otherwise, both here and in the States etc. How the jazz, gospel, rock n roll, soul and other influences of the time all suddenly developed into the amazing range of soul and associated music from early 60's onwards.

1957.

 

Didn't realize it had 'Northern' plays.

 

1957?! Blimey! I genuinely didn't know that a late 50's record had "Northern" plays!

brain rae used to play twisted wheel sounds at the casino

benny spellman - fortune teller 1961, also jimmy ruffin - dont feel sorry for me 1961?

brain rae used to play twisted wheel sounds at the casino

 

That makes sense and I think I'd read that somewhere.

 

Whilst I do personally prefer recordings from mid to late 60's onwards, I can't help but think now and then about what was going on before that time which led to such unbelievable range of soul music.

 

Cheers. Steve

benny spellman - fortune teller 1961, also jimmy ruffin - dont feel sorry for me 1961?

 

Blimey I didn't realise Benny Spellman was quite so early either. Must've been cool at the time and still not too bad, compared to some of what I have to endure now the kids have discovered itunes  

Comin Home Baby and the bside Right Now were massive on the eighties mod scene Comin Home baby has been covered by loads of people and must have been a big hit at the time I've just for a great version by El Chicano on Kapp.. as for being played on the northern scene....well...

Drip Drop,

From about 1936 I reckon*

*not strictly true, Just sayin like

Edited March 23, 201312 yr by IanP

..take your pick of Bo Diddley cuts..played at the wheel , mojo etc..from '55

Charles Sheffield is probably the earliest regular Northern Soul play - recorded in  about 1961 if my memory serves me right.

 

Lillan Offit - Miss You So - 1957  be my contender for a 'mainstrean' northern one ?

comin' home baby - old wheel tune I think............derided by the elitists - "blue-eyed non-soul"...........still gets played out and I think it sounds as cool as f*ck

 

guess like a lot of well known tracks your take depends on when you first heard it

to me its always been a sort of stock standard "middle of road" 1970s radio 2 or bbc saturday nite thing - as in when your dad had control of the radio

"I've Got A Feelin'" by Big Maybelle, which has been played, dates from 1954, and "Baby Please Don't Go" by Jo Ann Henderson is from 1955 (both of these were pressed on 45 and 78).

"I've Got A Feelin'" by Big Maybelle, which has been played, dates from 1954, and "Baby Please Don't Go" by Jo Ann Henderson is from 1955 (both of these were pressed on 45 and 78).

was just thinkin about the big maybelle track...i thought it was 1953

Never heard Big Maybelle played in a main room, so didn't include it.

Thanks for those...So moving ahead a few years, what can you all recall of the earliest "soul" records played and danced to at these and other venues? Would they have just been the more popular releases of the time? Cheers. Steve

comin' home baby - old wheel tune I think............derided by the elitists - "blue-eyed non-soul"...........still gets played out and I think it sounds as cool as f*ck

 

Comin' Home Baby is one of the very few records that I can think of that was a big UK pop hit before it had any 'Northern' plays.

guess like a lot of well known tracks your take depends on when you first heard it

to me its always been a sort of stock standard "middle of road" 1970s radio 2 or bbc saturday nite thing - as in when your dad had control of the radio

 

totally understand that view point......but forgetting the "baggage"......it has a certain atmosphere, its understated, its a bit bluesey and a bit jazzy.....and there's nothing like it out there.....added to the fact that the original wheel boys played it...if it was good enough for them...................to me it is a timeless classic......stuff the politics 

Came home from an all nighter in about 1978 and had purchased a copy of Mel Torme & stuck it on the old record player to play & my dear old Dad (RIP) said 'I've Got That'. Only 18 years old & I was turning into my Dad already.

 

Last time I heard Mel Torme played out was at a full on Modern night at Soul Purpose in Hinckley by Dr Bob Jones. Funny old scene innit.

Herbie Mann's live version of "Comin' Home" is the cool one to have. Nice on a blue label Atlantic Jazz series 45. 

Johnny Taylor; Rome (wasn't built in a day); Sar  written and produced by Sam Cooke, 1961.

Bill Black's Combo My girl Josephine 1961.

was just thinkin about the big maybelle track...i thought it was 1953

 

Could be. 

Comin' Home Baby is one of the very few records that I can think of that was a big UK pop hit before it had any 'Northern' plays.

 

It was a double A side though so maybe people heard the other side mor?  ("Right Now")

Herbie Mann's live version of "Comin' Home" is the cool one to have. Nice on a blue label Atlantic Jazz series 45. 

 

No no no, the Barron Knights version is the cool one to have 

actually I'm semi-serious, it's a great version, British R&B before they were a comedy group.

I've got a female version credited to Marie Knight but I don't think it's her really, anyone know?

The Barron Knights will always be cool Pete.

1957.

 

Didn't realize it had 'Northern' plays.

 

The Walk was played at The Twisted Wheel and was a big Mod tune in the late 60's. All of this before the term Northern Soul had been invented. At one time it was a big ticket item on the original UK London label - came out over here in '58 and you could also get it on a 78. With the inclusion of some of the Belgium Popcorn scene tunes into Northern play lists in recent times some very early tracks have had an airing. How about GUY MITCHELL - 99 YEARS - I think queen Victoria used to dance to that one !!! Whoever wrote the James Bond music had definitely been listening to this track.

 

The Walk was played at The Twisted Wheel and was a big Mod tune in the late 60's. All of this before the term Northern Soul had been invented. At one time it was a big ticket item on the original UK London label - came out over here in '58 and you could also get it on a 78. With the inclusion of some of the Belgium Popcorn scene tunes into Northern play lists in recent times some very early tracks have had an airing. How about GUY MITCHELL - 99 YEARS - I think queen Victoria used to dance to that one !!! Whoever wrote the James Bond music had definitely been listening to this track.

 

 

Not half, it's a direct steal.  

the walk was re issued late 7ts early 8ts

dee dee sharp did a good version on a cameo lp

dee dee sharp did a good version on a cameo lp

 

 

So did Peters and Lee...

 

 

No kidding.

 

 

 

So did Peters and Lee...

 

 

No kidding.

 

Groovy    That is surely recorded onto you tube about 20mph faster than it should be

dee dee sharp did a good version on a cameo lp

just been booted on 7inch

Charles Sheffield is probably the earliest regular Northern Soul play - recorded in  about 1961 if my memory serves me right.

i think charles sheffield was penned in 1955 and released in 1962

Stuff like "Reet Petite" and "Don't You Just Know It" are late 50s recordings that have been played at northern dos. There must be quite a few others too.

 

Oh, and Richard Berry too!

Edited March 25, 201312 yr by daved

i think charles sheffield was penned in 1955 and released in 1962

 

relevant discographies date charles sheffield as a 1961 release. don't know when it was recorded tho.

Edited March 25, 201312 yr by Benji

On the subject of cool versions of "Comin' home baby", Tony Middleton's take on it (recorded in France as Tony Milton and only available as a French release) is great! 

 

https://youtu.be/KwrVkBTR1-k

It was a double A side though so maybe people heard the other side mor?  ("Right Now")

 

Actually Pete, as far as I know, Mel Torme's version only charted for the "Comin' Home Baby" side; not as a double A-side (it was a No. 13 hit in the UK).  I think the only act to officially hit with "Right Now" are The Creatures (aka Siouxsie Sue and Budgie).

Edited March 25, 201312 yr by Gene-R