notice the Aussie Sandy Wynns - The Touch of Penis, John Manship has up in his auction, in the wrong sleeve... If I was paying £131 and counting I'd want that to be correct, thats an Aussie sleeve but was not used post 1963...

 

So if your reading this, it should be a Red stripped sleeve, yep 'Looks gorgeous' as it says in the blurb, but its not as it looked when it was issued...

 

small matter, but makes a difference...

 

 

Malcolm

Edited April 12, 201411 yr by Mal C

i googled it too mal, the site clearly shows em all. and dates.  but whoa, i just went and had another look to check and he had swapped it for a sixties one. there wont be many dealers who can just walk across the room and change a records clothes that quick. im impressed mr manship ........aren't you mal.

i googled it too mal, the site clearly shows em all. and dates.  but whoa, i just went and had another look to check and he had swapped it for a sixties one. there wont be many dealers who can just walk across the room and change a records clothes that quick. im impressed mr manship ........aren't you mal.

 

Only ones who have 100,000 company sleeves

i googled it too mal, the site clearly shows em all. and dates.  but whoa, i just went and had another look to check and he had swapped it for a sixties one. there wont be many dealers who can just walk across the room and change a records clothes that quick. im impressed mr manship ........aren't you mal.

 

very impressive, and something Aussie collectors will want to see, obviously I collect Aussie with a passion, and sleeves are a big factor for me, they have be right.... I'd bid but I got mine a decade ago for $30 aud... how prices go up.

 

M

notice the Aussie Sandy Wynns - The Touch of Penis, John Manship has up in his auction, in the wrong sleeve... If I was paying £131 and counting I'd want that to be correct, thats an Aussie sleeve but was not used post 1963...

 

So if your reading this, it should be a Red stripped sleeve, yep 'Looks gorgeous' as it says in the blurb, but its not as it looked when it was issued...

 

small matter, but makes a difference...

 

 

Malcolm

Valid point Mal. There's too much of this 'comes with company sleeve' sales blurb going on...

not really Frankie, but I know where you are coming from, but there are a few of like minded record collectors who like the original sleeve too as it adds to the history of the record,  I just managed an upgrade to mint minus aussie verve clara ward and in its sleeve too.. but try an find a tony drake in a sleeve. on the subject of sleeves, picture sleeves are hard such as the Jackie day, so much so that some people are resulting to scanning them and using these until they get an original as I have seen. if memory serves john sold one of these in his dropdown a couple of years ago. but you cant be fooled as they are easily distinguishable due to the quality. what would you reckon was the hardest aussie mal.  I have a theres that beat that lists them you can have it for 20 pence plus postage

not really Frankie, but I know where you are coming from, but there are a few of like minded record collectors who like the original sleeve too as it adds to the history of the record,  I just managed an upgrade to mint minus aussie verve clara ward and in its sleeve too.. but try an find a tony drake in a sleeve. on the subject of sleeves, picture sleeves are hard such as the Jackie day, so much so that some people are resulting to scanning them and using these until they get an original as I have seen. if memory serves john sold one of these in his dropdown a couple of years ago. but you cant be fooled as they are easily distinguishable due to the quality. what would you reckon was the hardest aussie mal.  I have a theres that beat that lists them you can have it for 20 pence plus postage

 

He's got all the guides has Mal, he knows more about Oz 45's than anyone I know.  

He hasn't got that weird New Zealand copy of Fife Piper that I've got though, on the old early 60's purple Pye label. 

not really Frankie, but I know where you are coming from, but there are a few of like minded record collectors who like the original sleeve too as it adds to the history of the record,  I just managed an upgrade to mint minus aussie verve clara ward and in its sleeve too.. but try an find a tony drake in a sleeve. on the subject of sleeves, picture sleeves are hard such as the Jackie day, so much so that some people are resulting to scanning them and using these until they get an original as I have seen. if memory serves john sold one of these in his drop down a couple of years ago. but you cant be fooled as they are easily distinguishable due to the quality. what would you reckon was the hardest aussie mal.  I have a theres that beat that lists them you can have it for 20 pence plus postage

 

Did you pick the Clara ward up recently? there was one for sale but the bidding was very silly for it....  rare ones, Only ever seen seen one copy of Donald Jenkins on W&S, Frank in Melbourne has that, and the scans on Dave Flynn's Web site

 

But the rarest 'Northern' Aussie might well be Nolan Porter on Pink Probe, a friend Craig in Sydney found 3 copies well over a fifteen years ago at a Big TV channel sale I think, big sell of, of some sort in Adelaide, there are some on here that were there that day, so they might put the location and date correct, my memory isnt what it was.... anyhow he kept two and sold one to Frank in Melbourne, George in Sydney is said to have a copy also.

 

Tony Drake is very rare, and some of the Garland Green 45's on MCA, 'Jealous kinda Fella' being the most common, then the LP, then I'm told there are two other releases,  I'd have to check my records for the titles, but very likely all culled from the LP...

 

Finally the RCA stable always are very hard, 'Lights Out' by the Dynamics came up on eBay years back, never heard of another, pic cover as well... always found the RCA stuff hard to get hold of... oh and festival White Demo's, which do turn up, but you never see them for the good titles, Ive got about ten or so good ones in varying conditions..

 

any more out there, what do folks think..>?

 

Malcolm

Edited April 15, 201411 yr by Mal C

He's got all the guides has Mal, he knows more about Oz 45's than anyone I know.  

He hasn't got that weird New Zealand copy of Fife Piper that I've got though, on the old early 60's purple Pye label. 

I Know he deals with a guy in Sydney Pete who has a shop there at the back of Central, Surrey Hills area,  very near to where I used to work,  same chap who was the source of the Jamaican Sam Dees / Fragile handle with care 45's that swamped the world some years back.... I met him once, thought he was an arrogant sod, so I asked if they were boots, which seemed to piss him off no end... safe to say we didn't like each other...

 

And I know that George and Frank sold shed loads of Aussie 45's into the UK throughout the 8ts/9ts and beyond... makes sense that John Manship was likely a recipient of a whole lot of those... there are various hordes of 45's Ive heard of that came out of allot of strange locations, one guy I visited in Victoria I spent a very hot and sweaty day with in blistering heat, surprised they didn't all bend in my hands, it was a nightmare,  went through thousands upon thousands of 45's, really narked of Liza, and found one garland green track, and then he tells me he had been cleaned out of soul stuff years before... God Damn!! Why didnt you say Dude!!    and that was the story at allot of places throughout NSW,  and other States we traveled trough.. Tamworth was good in NSW, its the country and western music Capitol in Oz, found loads of stuff in 2nd had stores on the fringes of the place, nothing in the center what so ever.. and I actually found some records in a junk shop in a place called Casino, which is on the inside of the Great Dividing range, farming town so how they got there I dont know....

 

Be honest, Parramatta record Fair nr Sydney was one the best places for me..Miss Goldie took me there initially in 2004, I went pretty regularly there after.. I said no to loads of things there, Shorty Long on TM, Don't mess with the Wkd,,  bloody fool...

 

I'm happy to learn, and if your selling, I'm always interested, but at the right price...

 

Malcolm

Edited April 15, 201411 yr by Mal C

very impressive, and something Aussie collectors will want to see, obviously I collect Aussie with a passion, and sleeves are a big factor for me, they have be right.... I'd bid but I got mine a decade ago for $30 aud... how prices go up.

 

M

Any sleeves you need? I got a few Aussie sleeves 1960's...

I've not had too many, but generally it seems that the vinyl on Aussie releases stands up well. One Aussie I'd LOVE to own is the Larry Santos on Festival, anybody got one they'd part with ?

Wow !

 

All these wallabee Australian collectors.

 

ROD

Now that this thread moved all the way from London's 100 Club to down under, one question: How many soul 45's were issued in Australia in the 1960's?

He may have changed since I last won a record on Manship's auction, but he never used to give you the company sleeve. They were just window dressing.

Now that this thread moved all the way from London's 100 Club to down under, one question: How many soul 45's were issued in Australia in the 1960's?

loads Benji, I have W&G and Festival Listings (61-69) and Ive highlighted the releases of interest for my reference, but Ive never counted them up.. It seems to me that the stuff between 61-69 is very well documented, but the 7ts and 8ts seem less so, and Ive come across allot of good releases from those decades, but again Ive never counted them up..

 

Dunnno, how long is a piece of string?

 

£GRAD for the 100 club singles.. Phuttwwwttt... easier to get off your arse and go up there once a year isn't it...thats allot of money.. sorry Dave I'm fueling the Aussie debate I know, but its more interesting quite simply..

 

Malcolm

Edited April 16, 201411 yr by Mal C

Did any of the 100 Club singles get released in Australia then ?

To someone interested in records this is infinitely more interesting than the 100 Club Singles thread, we've all seen these but there's still loads of Aussie 45's which are way off the radar.  And as Pikeys Dog says on that thread, who cares what they go for?

OK, to widen the appeal of the thread, here's some nice Aussie Motown for you, I only collect demo's, ones with no bullet sticker showing, sticker would be on the other side..

 

Regards,

 

Malcolm

Edited April 16, 201411 yr by Mal C

Did I dream it or is their a Aussie Verve "Living A Lie"?

Walter Jackson - It's all over was released on Aussie CBS

Walter Jackson - It's all over was released on Aussie CBS

 

Somewhere, on this site, is a listing of all soul 45's released on Australian CBS that I did...one or two real interesting issues that never came out in the UK, I'll see if I can find it

Did I dream it or is their a Aussie Verve "Living A Lie"?

Ive never seen one Pete, Superiors came up recently, that was nice, but I got outbid big time... I did get Que Sera, Sera recently though, is this the same lots? must be...

Edited April 16, 201411 yr by Mal C

Walter Jackson - It's all over was released on Aussie CBS

yeah, quite a few on CBS, "Uphill Climb' is the one to get on Yellow Epic... you never see it.. and here's 'That' record by Ms Hines, Eye candy for some...

Edited April 16, 201411 yr by Mal C

Mal.. Had a Australian  Solomon King. This beautiful day Columbia demo and a Marcia Hines. You gotta let go. Wizard  7" until recently. Wish I had kept them. Bought them of Phil Arnold when he returned from Australia about 10 years ago.

 

Steve

Ive never seen one Pete, Superiors came up recently, that was nice, but I got outbid big time... I did get Que Sera, Sera recently though, is this the same lots? must be...

 

I am actually probably thinking of The Superiors mate.

Que Sera Sera is the same group.

This is the Oz CBS discography that I did

 

I am actually probably thinking of The Superiors mate.

Que Sera Sera is the same group.

Here it is... I don't own this 45... Jimmy Smith is mine...

Edited April 16, 201411 yr by Mal C

I have a copy of the Superiors, but it's not for sale 

another one the hardest has to be seven day fool or another that I wont say because its the other side of a tune they play on country programs and I want it first. frank is the top man on aussie stuff and a great guy too. I thought the clara went cheap at 300. ive only seen 3 and ive got 2 of them. things like brian  hyland and also a lot of cover versions like nick knack paddy wack are  around too.

another one the hardest has to be seven day fool or another that I wont say because its the other side of a tune they play on country programs and I want it first. frank is the top man on Aussie stuff and a great guy too. I thought the Clara went cheap at 300. ive only seen 3 and ive got 2 of them. things like Brian  Hyland and also a lot of cover versions like nick knack paddy wack are  around too.

is 'seven day fool' on chess or Coronet?  Know what you mean on cover versions, there are hundreds, Pete Smith said he had a CD of loads of them, be good to see the track listing on that, personally I gave up collecting them because the quality got so bad, thought Little Pattie - Messin up a good thing was good, I did pick that up recently, and saw an Aussie Don Charles - The Drifter go on evil bay week or so ago, ok version but nothing tops Ray does it...

 

so whats this 'Other'? you cant allude to something without giving us more of a clue? so its the flip of a country 45, what group of labels does it come from?

 

 

Mal

Edited April 18, 201411 yr by Mal C

ua, with a cover version on rca. and I only heard it last year. I don't have may oz but I have to say the quality is great, seven day fool on coronet

Edited April 18, 201411 yr by turntableterra

Saw a nice Carolyn Franklin - "Reality" on black RCA ,solid centre,the other day.

Ive got a magazine that Barry Waddington sent me with loads of aussie labels in it. & Of course One of my best finds was that aussie lot in Dublin 40 records for 40 euros and i probably missed a few.Sold most of them!

Not forgetting Ozzie released LP's ie Casablanca Sampler that included Gloria Scott's "Case of too much love making" (as well as the ultra rare Oz 7")

Also the Van McCoy SSS International " Van McCoy & Friends".

Clyde McPhatter "Welcome Home" (MCA ?)

I also have the Metros "Since I found my baby"  on Oz RCA Promo that references the LP "Sweetest One" so maybe that exists to?

 

Triode

I have the Casablanca LP, still after the 7", seem to remember somebody talking about Clyde McPhatter LP ages ago, Ive never seen one, But the allot of Aussie LP's are quite surprising, allot have the Aussie vinyl with the USA sleeve just with a large sticker the size of the cover on the back, simply to state "Blah blah records, Australia'...

 

Malcolm

is this worth owt these days?

This is a link to a blog site, it's mainly Rock stuff, on the left hand side half way down are links to loads of Australian sites including many discographies and histories etc

 

https://rockonvinyl.blogspot.co.uk/

Somewhere, on this site, is a listing of all soul 45's released on Australian CBS that I did...one or two real interesting issues that never came out in the UK, I'll see if I can find it

I saw it and can't remember seeing Lynne Randell - "That's what love is made of" the Smokey Robinson track on the list, but I have a copy on Oz CBS

picked up this label variation i hadn't seen before the other week NZ press

I saw it and can't remember seeing Lynne Randell - "That's what love is made of" the Smokey Robinson track on the list, but I have a copy on Oz CBS

 

Sorry probably didn't see it - didn't include every cover version.

But the rarest 'Northern' Aussie might well be Nolan Porter on Pink Probe, a friend Craig in Sydney found 3 copies well over a fifteen years ago at a Big TV channel sale I think, big sell of, of some sort in Adelaide, there are some on here that were there that day, so they might put the location and date correct, my memory isnt what it was.... anyhow he kept two and sold one to Frank in Melbourne, George in Sydney is said to have a copy also.

 

 

 

 

 

Craig picked the Nolan Porter's up in Canberra the 2nd year they did a fair selling off all non Australian artists from the National archives. There was multiples of loads of great stuff.

That Magazine I was talking about was "Theres that beat Issue 11"

18 pages of Aussie releases written by Dave Moore & Nigel Loveless