Julianb Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Hi, please see attached photos. I know I'm losing you side has the correct deadwax readings of TMG 587 A-1 and plays correctly but the B side has no recording and has a very wide deadwax with LPFB stamped. I'm assuming this is a genuine test pressing. Can anyone shed any light on this or information on this please? TIA Julian Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sutty Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 That’s an acetate not a test pressing, done at the time of the cut to check quality, usually a one-off. If the UK press was cut at EMI its prob genuine Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Solution Tlscapital Posted April 26 Solution Share Posted April 26 4 minutes ago, Sutty said: That’s an acetate not a test pressing, done at the time of the cut to check quality, usually a one-off. If the UK press was cut at EMI its prob genuine The stamp matrix is machined so it's indeed a genuine acetate. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Julianb Posted April 26 Author Share Posted April 26 Thanks guys. Is it worth owt? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tlscapital Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 1 minute ago, Julianb said: Thanks guys. Is it worth owt? Not much I'm afraid. But I'm no British releases collector.... £20 / 40 ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dobber Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Did uk acetates have that crinkled edge around the centre like a uk 45? it’s look like a blank test press with a emi label stuck over it? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tlscapital Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Dobber said: Did uk acetates have that crinkled edge around the centre like a uk 45? it’s look like a blank test press with a emi label stuck over it? I'm no specialist of UK gear but I noticed that too. But what an odd thing to stuck on an EMI acetate label on a single sided vinyl test press then ? Or was that a common UK EMI practice ? Some of the French pre-releases 45's made from UK EMI & Co. 45's were occasionally solid center single sided too FWIW... What is the machined Matrix of the TMG ? To compare could maybe tell us something. Then I was also surprised by the glue smudge over the 'crinkled' outer label ring that could indicate some DIY amateur job... But that would prove to be a lot of fuss for a rather common record. But like sewing patches and all required a lot of time from those who did have more time for their passion than they had money. I know I did. Although I never 'dressed' my records. Too much respect for that. Edited April 26 by Tlscapital Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Julianb Posted April 26 Author Share Posted April 26 Here is the B side deadwax readings from the issue copy. So does anyone know what the LPFB stamp denotes? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Alan T Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 35 minutes ago, Julianb said: Here is the B side deadwax readings from the issue copy. So does anyone know what the LPFB stamp denotes? Never seen this before but LPFB = (L)? Play False Back, seems to be on test presses with a blank flip. https://www.discogs.com/search/?q=lpfb&type=all&format_exact=7" Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Modularman Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 2 minutes ago, Alan T said: Never seen this before but LPFB = (L)? Play False Back, seems to be on test presses with a blank flip. https://www.discogs.com/search/?q=lpfb&type=all&format_exact=7" 'Long' Play False Back. The flip side of these test "White Label - Not For Sale" - pieces of vinyl have a test tone that plays continually Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Alan T Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 1 minute ago, Modularman said: 'Long' Play False Back. The flip side of these test "White Label - Not For Sale" - pieces of vinyl have a test tone that plays continually I seen this on search results but thought long play would denote an album. I was wondering if it could be "Lone" as in single ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Bo Diddley Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Just as a reference or bit of additional information, I have this Temptations British Test Press of TMG 633. It is vinyl and has the raised KT mark on the center and correct machine stamps on both sides. There's no sign of LPFB on it. There doesn't seem to be much demand or value in these. I got this from eBay a few years ago for a couple of pounds. I don't think anyone else bid. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Woodbutcher Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 If it were a 'test pressing' then it would carry the very same runout stamps as the issued 45 , given that the purpose of doing test pressings is to make sure the stampers were in order and damage free before running off a volume of records. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Modularman Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 7 hours ago, Alan T said: I seen this on search results but thought long play would denote an album. I was wondering if it could be "Lone" as in single ? I don't know, as LP's came first I assumed they just carried on with the same runout stamp for 45's? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Looks more like a test press with the ridge round the inner edge. I would have thought an acetate would be flat all the way across the surface too. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 From what I can gather many UK test press had LPFB stamped on side two and many seem to think it indicates a test tone such as the one yours has Julian. 1 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Carty Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 8 hours ago, Bo Diddley said: Just as a reference or bit of additional information, I have this Temptations British Test Press of TMG 633. It is vinyl and has the raised KT mark on the center and correct machine stamps on both sides. There's no sign of LPFB on it. There doesn't seem to be much demand or value in these. I got this from eBay a few years ago for a couple of pounds. I don't think anyone else bid. I am surprised that these British test press copies are not more valuable and sought after , they must be much rarer than the uk demos , if not as easy on the eye . 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sebastian Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 This is 100% a one-sided vinyl test pressing, it's not an acetate. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Benji Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 A few months ago I bought a job lot of 45s. Among them were ~80 UK Pop demos from the mid 50s to the mid 60s. Most were single sided with an "empty" groove on the flip. This one here looks just like one of those pressings. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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