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Cheryl Berdell

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Must be one of my favourite records from the late days of The Casino, I never tire of hearing this track.

My mate said to me come over and I will take you to this record shop I have found and the only decent record I got was a copy of this for £4.00.

I got another one on ebay the other week as well, scans below.

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Must be one of my favourite records from the late days of The Casino, I never tire of hearing this track.

My mate said to me come over and I will take you to this record shop I have found and the only decent record I got was a copy of this for £4.00.

I got another one on ebay the other week as well, scans below.

yep top tune mate.

Whats it go for nowadays?

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Not loads £15 still not hard to get a copy.

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Not loads £15 still not hard to get a copy.

I've got one myself, it was one of the first original 45s I bought...(probably because it was just as cheap as a bootleg, ha ha)....and stills sounds the business :unsure:

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Not loads £15 still not hard to get a copy.

The 2nd image posted is the copy I have, what's the difference? Are they both OG or is one a booter?

I just bought it back in my younger days when I naively thought it was what was in the grooves that counted!! :unsure:

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The one in the first scan I got from Soul Bowl. I dont remember the other one . Where did yo get it Mark

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Both from the same stamp Mark just a different label.

I know the name of Danny Leak but can't find anything on the tinternet by him or about him.

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I keep looking at them both and I really can't remember which one I have! If one is a boot I imagine that's the one I've got :unsure: SOS, Pie disco demand..you name em I had em in the 80s tongue.gif

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Both from the same stamp Mark just a different label.

I know the name of Danny Leak but can't find anything on the tinternet by him or about him.

Thanks mate.....appreciate that..........a long standing question answered!!

Cheers,

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The one in the first scan I got from Soul Bowl. I dont remember the other one . Where did yo get it Mark

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I'm pretty sure mine is the second scan - and I'm sure it would have come from Soul Bowl - perhaps not.

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The one in the first scan I got from Soul Bowl. I dont remember the other one . Where did yo get it Mark

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Unusually for me Simon, I can't remember where this came from..............NOT Soul Bowl though.

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Unusually for me Simon, I can't remember where this came from..............NOT Soul Bowl though.

Cheers,

Mark R

Curious :unsure: , cracking tune ,played it to my mate whose purely an Essex JazzFunk boy , he was stunned smile.gif

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I know the name of Danny Leak but can't find anything on the tinternet by him or about him.

It's Danny Leake from Chicago.

Ian Levines old mate.

Ex 100% Pure Poison!

He produced LJ Johnson "Your Magic's Put A Spell On Me" back in the 70's and all those great James Wells & Barbara Pennington things!

Guess that kinda makes Cheryl Berdell a Tailor Made... if only by influence rather than intent!

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As a footnote...

... if you really dig this tune... you really should check out Sandra Feva's "Just To Be Close To You" on Venture.

I covered it as Cheryl Berdell yonks ago cos it's a bit of a ringer and every bit as good!

A TOP TIP (IMO).

On both 45 & the superb Savoir Faire LP.

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It could easily be covered and make a great tune for today.

if you really dig this tune... you really should check out Sandra Feva's "Just To Be Close To You" on Venture.

Do you have a sound clip Sean.

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Must be one of my favourite records from the late days of The Casino, I never tire of hearing this track.

My mate said to me come over and I will take you to this record shop I have found and the only decent record I got was a copy of this for £4.00.

I got another one on ebay the other week as well, scans below.

Let's hear it then? :o)

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Do you have a sound clip Sean.

No... I'm pretty crap at such technology... but there's a short clip here - which really doesn't do it justice - but you'll get the drift

http://www.amazon.com/Savoir-Faire-Sandra-Feva/dp/B000001RQ8

And it's in the Box for Lifeline!

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As a footnote...

... if you really dig this tune... you really should check out Sandra Feva's "Just To Be Close To You" on Venture.

I covered it as Cheryl Berdell yonks ago cos it's a bit of a ringer and every bit as good!

A TOP TIP (IMO).

On both 45 & the superb Savoir Faire LP.

:unsure:

Top tune Sean, I used to play this out myself, though she's a a very overlooked lady.

There was a plan to compile a Sandra Feva/Richardson CD by those Grapevine boys, I know because I contributed quite a few tracks. Must have been shelved when it all became a bit fragmented.

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Guess that kinda makes Cheryl Berdell a Tailor Made... if only by influence rather than intent!

Oh no it doesn't :lol: . This was the brainchild of Cheryl's then husband and they merely used Danny as the engineer. You'll also note the Tom Tom connection. You may recall in the dark and distant days of Blackbeat I tracked down the gorgeous Cheryl and put her pic on a cover. She told me the story, by then she had split from her husband (this was 1982 by now but the sound was still popular). She also put me onto Tom Tom who was by then working with Phil Collins on things like "You can't hurry love" much to my shock (and horror laugh.gif).

It's a great record, and Cheryl was a great looking girl as well! :unsure:

Steve

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Oh no it doesn't :lol: . This was the brainchild of Cheryl's then husband and they merely used Danny as the engineer. You'll also note the Tom Tom connection. You may recall in the dark and distant days of Blackbeat I tracked down the gorgeous Cheryl and put her pic on a cover. She told me the story, by then she had split from her husband (this was 1982 by now but the sound was still popular). She also put me onto Tom Tom who was by then working with Phil Collins on things like "You can't hurry love" much to my shock (and horror laugh.gif ).

It's a great record, and Cheryl was a great looking girl as well! :unsure:

Steve

Can we have that picture again Steve :lol: any news on re-issued BB's

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Oh no it doesn't :no: . This was the brainchild of Cheryl's then husband and they merely used Danny as the engineer. You'll also note the Tom Tom connection. You may recall in the dark and distant days of Blackbeat I tracked down the gorgeous Cheryl and put her pic on a cover. She told me the story, by then she had split from her husband (this was 1982 by now but the sound was still popular). She also put me onto Tom Tom who was by then working with Phil Collins on things like "You can't hurry love" much to my shock (and horror :lol: ).

It's a great record, and Cheryl was a great looking girl as well! ph34r.gif

Steve

Yeh - Remember her being on the cover Steve.

But I'd certainly have thought that all those productions with Levine would have had an effect on the 'sound' that Leake engineered.

Either way, its a top little tune.

The old 'Esther Williams' cover up if my memory serves me right!

Sean

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Just a thought!

Has Cheryl Berdell ever appeared on a comp CD?

How about a Clifton Classics... anyone?

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Has Cheryl Berdell ever appeared on a comp CD?

Certainly been on a vinyl comp. Sean..............Goldmine "Modern Soul Vol 1" as I recall......grey cover.

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Mark R

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Certainly been on a vinyl comp. Sean..............Goldmine "Modern Soul Vol 1" as I recall......grey cover.

Cheers,

Mark R

Was also on CD comp...crossover soup wink.gif

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I'd never seen the plain EMT label befre seeing Tony's copy (second scan)...interesting one.

The other more common design saw two presses:

The first has smooth labels and clean sharp print, whilst the second had a pitted label surface and slightly blurred/smudged print...and it was these pitted copies that appeared en masse a year or so after the Casino closed, along with the Larry Houstons, if my memory serves me well.

Still sounds fresh to me too, although would've preferred that the producer could've given it some more bass, mind!

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I'd never seen the plain EMT label befre seeing Tony's copy (second scan)...interesting one.

The other more common design saw two presses:

The first has smooth labels and clean sharp print, whilst the second had a pitted label surface and slightly blurred/smudged print...and it was these pitted copies that appeared en masse a year or so after the Casino closed, along with the Larry Houstons, if my memory serves me well.

Still sounds fresh to me too, although would've preferred that the producer could've given it some more bass, mind!

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Larry Houston is another case in point..........I have the cleaner looking, yet probably less "original" looking pale orange label............the other is a darker oreange/red. Both OG vinyl with different labels???

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Mark R

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Larry Houston is another case in point..........I have the cleaner looking, yet probably less "original" looking pale orange label............the other is a darker oreange/red. Both OG vinyl with different labels???

Cheers,

Mark R

:g: Again tracked Houston down and he sent me a box load with both types in. 1982 heady days at Blackbeat :P

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Still sounds fresh to me too, although would've preferred that the producer could've given it some more bass, mind!

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First scan is the original press. If you have one with the sddress scratched out, then they are the very first the John Anderson found. He then had about 1000 that he put out on the list. They sold in maybe a 500-600 quantity. The rest went back to Craig Moerer when John sold his stock. The unusual plain design is a, as far as I am aware, legitimate re-press and is quite possibly rarer than the original. Because it's a re-press, it becomes less valuable but may still command the same as an original. Larry Houston is a different kettle of fish. It's a different take. Larry went back into the studio and re-cut the track. Although it sounds similar, the giveway is the "Whoa" in the break two thirds into the song. It doesn't happen on the second take. I have a twelve of the original version but have never seen another. Would appreciate anyone else who has one making contact.

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i remember playing CB at the great Bournemouth xcross the board soul nites - i came off the decks and someone thanked me for playing it cos they hadn't heard it for many years. Bugger me, a few hours later Arthur F came on and played it again (Arthur was not in the room whern i played it). Twice in one nite lol, orgasm time for matie i thought

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First scan is the original press. If you have one with the sddress scratched out, then they are the very first the John Anderson found. He then had about 1000 that he put out on the list. They sold in maybe a 500-600 quantity. The rest went back to Craig Moerer when John sold his stock. The unusual plain design is a, as far as I am aware, legitimate re-press and is quite possibly rarer than the original. Because it's a re-press, it becomes less valuable but may still command the same as an original. Larry Houston is a different kettle of fish. It's a different take. Larry went back into the studio and re-cut the track. Although it sounds similar, the giveway is the "Whoa" in the break two thirds into the song. It doesn't happen on the second take. I have a twelve of the original version but have never seen another. Would appreciate anyone else who has one making contact.

Interesting I have got both so I'll have to dig em out. Larry sent me a box of 25, about 20 of one sort and 5 of the other. I sold them all at the Fleet for £2.50 in one night. This was 1982.

Steve

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I checked last night and mine is the first scan..I bought it off somebody at Parr Hall in the 80s. my other half played it at one of the original Soul or Nothings a few years ago and loads of people asked about it-was quite surprised how many people didn't know the track although I must admit I'd never heard it out in years until Jamie Hartford played it for me by special request at my wedding reception :thumbup:

Nice to hear some background about the record as it is one of my all time favourites :thumbsup:

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One up for grabs on my website.

Cheryl Berdell 45 in excellent condition a snip at £10 . Well worth more money . :lol:

http://www.cratesofsoul.com/page2.htm

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Rubbish..its 80s boogie..

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Rubbish..its 80s boogie..

You keep changing your post!

It's a cracking tune

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You keep changing your post!

It's a cracking tune

Some mod who has access to the admin of the site keeps changing it for me! did not realise Soul-Source was governed by mods?!

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Some mod who has access to the admin of the site keeps changing it for me! did not realise Soul-Source was governed by mods?!

Posts were off topic so deleted.

You were also asked to change avatar before you posted again as contained offensive language.

Please change it before you post again.

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obviously the said record was therefore made to measure just before for the end of an Era Casino nights, it was played here and there after that but god knows why. Just my opinion that its rubbish, but certainly sounds 80s boogie, i'm sure there's a market for that genre of music somewhere. there's no wonder it still only fetches between £4 and £15. Sorry about the Avatar, Winifred Atwell might not of appreciated the joke either. Still not sure why CUNNIE from the mod thingy is allowed to edit soul-source.

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obviously the said record was therefore made to measure just before for the end of an Era Casino nights, it was played here and there after that but god knows why. Just my opinion that its rubbish, but certainly sounds 80s boogie, i'm sure there's a market for that genre of music somewhere. there's no wonder it still only fetches between £4 and £15. Sorry about the Avatar, Winifred Atwell might not of appreciated the joke either. Still not sure why CUNNIE from the mod thingy is allowed to edit soul-source.

The record is a quality piece of soul music.

The moderators are here do moderate the site - not sure why that's confusing.

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The record is a quality piece of soul music.

The moderators are here do moderate the site - not sure why that's confusing.

Ha Ha moderate..get it... Anyway, I am glad you think so. But sorry i don't agree. just played it to my partner who loves all types of music, take into consideration that this is the very first time she has heard it tonight, her remarks were "thats boring", I agree with her.

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I never tire of this record taylor made or not.

But talking of tailor made dose anybody remeber that Barnaby Bye cover You Keep My Temprature Rising that Russ W played sure its Ian Lavine thing on Mercury.

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The one in the first scan I got from Soul Bowl. I dont remember the other one . Where did yo get it Mark

The Oddfellows?

Got mine from the Bowl, I think :thumbup: Or it my have been Ian :thumbup:

First scan as well.

Further to hearing it on the All Night Long album.

Have to say all be it, it was a dodgy album some great tracks on it smile.gif

Was this all she did ?

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Was this all she did ? not sure about that.

Yes what a great LP all those megga rare Serling tracks you would trade your Granny for.

I have a spare cover for this LP.

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Yes what a great LP all those megga rare Serling tracks you would trade your Granny for.

I have a spare cover for this LP.

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I never tire of this record taylor made or not.

But talking of tailor made dose anybody remeber that Barnaby Bye cover You Keep My Temprature Rising that Russ W played sure its Ian Lavine thing on Mercury.

L J Johnson on Mercury.

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:thumbup:

L J Johnson on Mercury.

Thanks Steve the plot thinkens.

The LP! the only other way to get hold of these records other than putting your Mom,s high hells and dress on and waiting at the back door for RS leaving, was on a tape recorder live from the Casino.

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The LP! the only other way to get hold of these records other than putting your Mom,s high hells and dress on and waiting at the back door for RS leaving, was on a tape recorder live from the Casino.

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The LP! the only other way to get hold of these records other than putting your Mom,s high hells and dress on and waiting at the back door for RS leaving, was on a tape recorder live from the Casino.

I was always told that Keith Minch' was behind the album.... Was that right ?

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I was always told that Keith Minch' was behind the album.... Was that right ?

I thought that too :thumbsup:

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