Northern Fashion 73/74

[SHEFFSOUL 296]

looking for pics & memories of soul fashion from early casino days...anyone remember Julian Jeloneks in Mansfield? He made some great soul trousers way before Spencers...also the 'Dragonette' tee shirt/vest...Roxy Threads..Nottm...

[kimbo 388]

looking for pics & memories of soul fashion from early casino days...anyone remember Julian Jeloneks in Mansfield? He made some great soul trousers way before Spencers...also the 'Dragonette' tee shirt/vest...Roxy Threads..Nottm...

Went into bespoke tailoring in 74 made loads of baggies... with secret pockets. also later on 1950's style wind cheetas (james dean style) with one off record labels embroidered on the back. Still have the paper label from my Skinners original paralells with price £3.75 stuck inside my record box. Also the Bowie baggies with pleats all round the waist. But personally speaking cant beat the fashion from the wheel/mod/skin days so smart but oh so cool.

Kimbo

[De-to 129]

Went into bespoke tailoring in 74 made loads of baggies... with secret pockets. also later on 1950's style wind cheetas (james dean style) with one off record labels embroidered on the back. Still have the paper label from my Skinners original paralells with price £3.75 stuck inside my record box. Also the Bowie baggies with pleats all round the waist. But personally speaking cant beat the fashion from the wheel/mod/skin days so smart but oh so cool.

Kimbo

heres a few twirly skirts and high waist baggies,i used to go to dave pinks in cambridge mid 70s for me baggies,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlmBdG3mW2s

[Mart B 107]

looking for pics & memories of soul fashion from early casino days...anyone remember Julian Jeloneks in Mansfield? He made some great soul trousers way before Spencers...also the 'Dragonette' tee shirt/vest...Roxy Threads..Nottm...

Mansfield! taylors for all your Northern soul Suits etc was "robinsons" which i beleive is now a Building society or a Arcade .On one corner at the time was the local hardware store were you got your smoothies yes your red smooth leather soul shoes.At the other end of the street you got your up to date Northern soul imports Syd Booths and also near by, one of the best northern soul clubs in the country The swan Hotel...By Lad them were days....

[SHEFFSOUL 296]

Mansfield! taylors for all your Northern soul Suits etc was "robinsons" which i beleive is now a Building society or a Arcade .On one corner at the time was the local hardware store were you got your smoothies yes your red smooth leather soul shoes.At the other end of the street you got your up to date Northern soul imports Syd Booths and also near by, one of the best northern soul clubs in the country The swan Hotel...By Lad them were days....

yes...I moved to mansfield briefly from Skegness around end '74. Worked at the Mansfield shoe corp. Used to go to the Swan..Derek Banner DJ'd I think..bought Manifesto off him for £3.50. Also did Syd Booths, guy called Phil Kingswood ran it..other faces were Sid, Yank,Marilyn...great time. What about Julian Jeloneks?????

[SHEFFSOUL 296]

heres a few twirly skirts and high waist baggies,i used to go to dave pinks in cambridge mid 70s for me baggies,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlmBdG3mW2s

I'd be interested to see the skinners label, if you could send a pic..not many people seem to remember 'em. I recall the most popular colour was white, did they use other colours??

[Mart B 107]

yes...I moved to mansfield briefly from Skegness around end '74. Worked at the Mansfield shoe corp. Used to go to the Swan..Derek Banner DJ'd I think..bought Manifesto off him for £3.50. Also did Syd Booths, guy called Phil Kingswood ran it..other faces were Sid, Yank,Marilyn...great time. What about Julian Jeloneks?????

Jeloneks is long gone,Wilkos superstore on that site now...Shoe corp also demolished you probably wouldnt recognise Mansfield now if you visited,and its so called improvements are not for the better either.

[kimbo 388]

I'd be interested to see the skinners label, if you could send a pic..not many people seem to remember 'em. I recall the most popular colour was white, did they use other colours??

Not sure how to get piccies on here techno thicko, its th paper label not the sewn on embossed leather label from the back pocket. Skinners came in after the 16 inch parallel legs of sta-prest I think 72-3. The original Skinners were 24 inch parallel legs in blue denim the white ones came in later re bay city rollers/ clockwork orange but the blue denim Skinners original was the one with a 2 inch turn up on the outside,. Also copies were around made by a company called saddlebags then other manufactures made trousers with the same leg cut. Another brand to go down in soul fashion History were jeans called Flemmings super toughs think they came from Liverpool. Remember seeing both Skinners and Flemmings being worn with the first leather bomber jackets or leather/suede in the same style as the levi jacket well cool.

Nice thread mate. hope we get a few more replies from the hep cats of the time. Best kimbo.

Is it east to get photos on here!!!!

[PaulDonnelly 232]

Not sure how to get piccies on here techno thicko, its th paper label not the sewn on embossed leather label from the back pocket. Skinners came in after the 16 inch parallel legs of sta-prest I think 72-3. The original Skinners were 24 inch parallel legs in blue denim the white ones came in later re bay city rollers/ clockwork orange but the blue denim Skinners original was the one with a 2 inch turn up on the outside,. Also copies were around made by a company called saddlebags then other manufactures made trousers with the same leg cut. Another brand to go down in soul fashion History were jeans called Flemmings super toughs think they came from Liverpool. Remember seeing both Skinners and Flemmings being worn with the first leather bomber jackets or leather/suede in the same style as the levi jacket well cool.

Nice thread mate. hope we get a few more replies from the hep cats of the time. Best kimbo.

Is it east to get photos on here!!!!

skinners, budgie jacket, white fred perry, loafers, red socks and one black glove..."I'm where its at"

[Casper 1,689]

i still have my baggies made at the same tailor who did them in the 70's... keith malinson in rotherham, he is due to retire anytime now, he used to have blackboards outside the shop with all the prices for pockets , channel seams ,turnups etc... he also made jackets, circle skirts ....and still does now !

we would pay a deposit and pay weekly till he would hand them over

he is a true "old school" tailor and a gem to chat to, makes wicked clothes to die for in true northern soul style !

 

[kimbo 388]

skinners, budgie jacket, white fred perry, loafers, red socks and one black glove..."I'm where its at"

Hi mate and what did your dad say "take them bloody pills out your sock drawer and bugger off" one of the best I've read on here. Respect kimbo

oh yeah have a cutting from one of the daily's of the time commenting on a change of style in a skinhead stronghold with the following of the budgie series on t.v. Remember adam faith.

[Guest Super60sounds]

Hi mate and what did your dad say "take them bloody pills out your sock drawer and bugger off" one of the best I've read on here. Respect kimbo

oh yeah have a cutting from one of the daily's of the time commenting on a change of style in a skinhead stronghold with the following of the budgie series on t.v. Remember adam faith.

Hi Kimbo Hope you had a good night last weekend then ? !!

I have pdf of a brown leather Skinners badge, I have it on my PC desktop but cant load it into this thread !! Sorry....

I bought the the Skinners from Longton/Stoke and went back for another pair later that year I think that would have been around same time March / April 1973.

I think they were from Liverpool as were originally deckhands or dockers workwear.

They attracted a lot of interest when I went out and about ! Some guys in Brum wanted to buy them off me at Oasis and send me home bagless ...tehe.

Mine were both in blue denim, loads of dye in them because got wet once ice skating and legs were blue when I took them off.

Oh yes there was more to us soulies those days ice skating & tenpin bowling etc..

Will try to post pic in a mo !

Good thread / Graham

[SHEFFSOUL 296]

Hi mate and what did your dad say "take them bloody pills out your sock drawer and bugger off" one of the best I've read on here. Respect kimbo

oh yeah have a cutting from one of the daily's of the time commenting on a change of style in a skinhead stronghold with the following of the budgie series on t.v. Remember adam faith.

as you've a great memory for soul fashions can you remember the dragonette tops from 74? I had the short sleeve type with V neck which I bought in Leeds afer the Queens hall niter, theres a pic of a guy wearing the vest type on an early pic from the casino, a good guess is summer 74 as i think it appeared in the sept 1st anniversary advert in B&S.

[SHEFFSOUL 296]

as you've a great memory for soul fashions can you remember the dragonette tops from 74? I had the short sleeve type with V neck which I bought in Leeds afer the Queens hall niter, theres a pic of a guy wearing the vest type on an early pic from the casino, a good guess is summer 74 as i think it appeared in the sept 1st anniversary advert in B&S.

[SHEFFSOUL 296]

i still have my baggies made at the same tailor who did them in the 70's... keith malinson in rotherham, he is due to retire anytime now, he used to have blackboards outside the shop with all the prices for pockets , channel seams ,turnups etc... he also made jackets, circle skirts ....and still does now !

we would pay a deposit and pay weekly till he would hand them over

he is a true "old school" tailor and a gem to chat to, makes wicked clothes to die for in true northern soul style !

nice pic..do you remeber a guy called Alan Fleisher from Rotherham..he was an early Wigan goer plus Sammys he was a hoot!

[kimbo 388]

Hi Kimbo Hope you had a good night last weekend then ? !!

I have pdf of a brown leather Skinners badge, I have it on my PC desktop but cant load it into this thread !! Sorry....

I bought the the Skinners from Longton/Stoke and went back for another pair later that year I think that would have been around same time March / April 1973.

I think they were from Liverpool as were originally deckhands or dockers workwear.

They attracted a lot of interest when I went out and about ! Some guys in Brum wanted to buy them off me at Oasis and send me home bagless ...tehe.

Mine were both in blue denim, loads of dye in them because got wet once ice skating and legs were blue when I took them off.

Oh yes there was more to us soulies those days ice skating & tenpin bowling etc..

Will try to post pic in a mo !

Good thread / Graham

Hi mate, how you doin? Weekend wuz wild you know its gonna be with the West midland crew and the Holyman clan. yep remember about the dye they faded a treat. Not sure where Skinners were manufactured always thought Flemmings were worn by the dockers as they defo came from Liverpool. That was the start then up to 28 bottoms and 3inch waistbands side patch pkts (your Birmingham baggies) then oxford bags etc.

Kept a scrapbook back then have an account of a reporter who first came across skinheads on the kings road in 69. no smart gear then as with all cults rough and raw, nightwatchman twill trousers, union collar shirt, braces and steel cap boots.

Laters kimbo.

[Citizen P 1,110]

Anyone recall the jeans that had a Raindow elasticated waistband, together with my white leather bomber and wedge soles I looked the boll*cks (or did I just look boll*cks?)

Tony

[Guest Super60sounds]

Hi mate, how you doin? Weekend wuz wild you know its gonna be with the West midland crew and the Holyman clan. yep remember about the dye they faded a treat. Not sure where Skinners were manufactured always thought Flemmings were worn by the dockers as they defo came from Liverpool. That was the start then up to 28 bottoms and 3inch waistbands side patch pkts (your Birmingham baggies) then oxford bags etc.

Kept a scrapbook back then have an account of a reporter who first came across skinheads on the kings road in 69. no smart gear then as with all cults rough and raw, nightwatchman twill trousers, union collar shirt, braces and steel cap boots.

Laters kimbo.

Hi Kim.....Glad you had a good night then !!

Skinners were almost certainly dockwear, the shop worker told me they were from Liverpool/Manchester....perhaps we have a Liverpudlian SS member who could confirm?

In 1970 I had workboots and cut the leather from front of boots to reveal steel toecaps, polished em up a treat , what a plonker I was / am .... tehe

Sorry can't post pic have tried all bloody night !

[Casper 1,689]

nice pic..do you remeber a guy called Alan Fleisher from Rotherham..he was an early Wigan goer plus Sammys he was a hoot!

yes i remember him, i think he lived in kimberworth Rotherham as i remember, not seen him for many years? not sure if he is around ... i live in nottingham now , pop up to the odd night in rotherham but hardly see anyone from "the days"...

pete n' susan

[PaulDonnelly 232]

kimbo said:

Hi mate and what did your dad say "take them bloody pills out your sock drawer and bugger off" one of the best I've read on here. Respect kimbo

oh yeah have a cutting from one of the daily's of the time commenting on a change of style in a skinhead stronghold with the following of the budgie series on t.v. Remember adam faith.

Just to prove what pills and baggies can do for you, I;m the one in the middle before anyone asks...

 

[kimbo 388]

Just to prove what pills and baggies can do for you, I;m the one in the middle before anyone asks...

Gotta be Z cars.

[SHEFFSOUL 296]

yes i remember him, i think he lived in kimberworth Rotherham as i remember, not seen him for many years? not sure if he is around ... i live in nottingham now , pop up to the odd night in rotherham but hardly see anyone from "the days"...

pete n' susan

another old souler seems to have faded away..i was living in Sheff at the time and did hang with Barnsley/Rotherham gang..legger,adrian,nurse jeppo,karen, chloe(can't remember her real name) anyone remember??

[PaulDonnelly 232]

the being carted off the pitch at Peterborough was early 72 by the end of the year, I'd discovered you can do beer and pukka pies during the week and joined my new found nighter mates from The Boro who were in John Colliers or Burtons every Sat paying off there suit purchases, where as me indvidualist as ever decided to wear Prince Albert Red and Yellow pullovers with fook off size stars on the front, bloody dubes...far left at the top

 

[kimbo 388]

Anyone recall the jeans that had a Raindow elasticated waistband, together with my white leather bomber and wedge soles I looked the boll*cks (or did I just look boll*cks?)

Tony

Yes I do mate, that Attley bloke has a lot to answer for. But you wer the bloke who made Ben Sherman button down pants all the rave in Rushden. How you doin Tony long time no see. You better give that Trevski a hi from me when you see him suit you sir.

Kimbo.

[Steve G 7,132]

the being carted off the pitch at Peterborough was early 72 by the end of the year, I'd discovered you can do beer and pukka pies during the week and joined my new found nighter mates from The Boro who were in John Colliers or Burtons every Sat paying off there suit purchases, where as me indvidualist as ever decided to wear Prince Albert Red and Yellow pullovers with fook off size stars on the front, bloody dubes...far left at the top

Didn't know Steve Coogan was around then? Or was it a young Alan Partridge?

[kimbo 388]

the being carted off the pitch at Peterborough was early 72 by the end of the year, I'd discovered you can do beer and pukka pies during the week and joined my new found nighter mates from The Boro who were in John Colliers or Burtons every Sat paying off there suit purchases, where as me indvidualist as ever decided to wear Prince Albert Red and Yellow pullovers with fook off size stars on the front, bloody dubes...far left at the top

Excellent, like the small sign at the back "teaching" was that a Dubie apprentiship.

[SHEFFSOUL 296]

the being carted off the pitch at Peterborough was early 72 by the end of the year, I'd discovered you can do beer and pukka pies during the week and joined my new found nighter mates from The Boro who were in John Colliers or Burtons every Sat paying off there suit purchases, where as me indvidualist as ever decided to wear Prince Albert Red and Yellow pullovers with fook off size stars on the front, bloody dubes...far left at the top

I vaguely remember these two guys at left at the front...were they from Boston or maybe I remember them from the Glider..??

[frenchie 124]

Just to prove what pills and baggies can do for you, I;m the one in the middle before anyone asks...

CLASS..

[Guest john-h]

CLASS..

At last a photo of the "SOUL POLICE"

[Paul Shirley 300]

me wigan paul & d wainright forgoton the girls names out side russ wistanlys record shop in wigan back in 75 or 74 canot rimember but the posters in the background are for betty wright live at the casino . after the pic on a sunday morning we went on to blackbeat all dayer in bolton . cracking days & nights gone forever

Edited August 17, 2008 by mepaul50

[Guest Dave Turner]

looking for pics & memories of soul fashion from early casino days...anyone remember Julian Jeloneks in Mansfield? He made some great soul trousers way before Spencers...also the 'Dragonette' tee shirt/vest...Roxy Threads..Nottm...

Bowling shirts circa '74

[Chris L 2,289]

looking for pics & memories of soul fashion from early casino days...anyone remember Julian Jeloneks in Mansfield? He made some great soul trousers way before Spencers...also the 'Dragonette' tee shirt/vest...Roxy Threads..Nottm...

Not exactly Wigan, this take in my garden as we prepared to head off to the Torch, see

the fine lines of the tailoring to match my firm young body............... Have you ever seen such a dorky shirt

Much prefer this one, taken about 1971, 18 years old, bullet proof, full of piss and vinegar

[Guest Scobie]

Hi Datch - I am sure I must know you, I recognise several faces on that photo but the old grey matter just cannot put names to them - as a regular at the glider during those days we were often in Peterborough on a friday night or saturday morning trying to score whilst trying to elude Geoff Capes (strong man & copper) at the same time. Do you remember Fo Fossitt, his old man used to work on the door at the glider so we got in for free - I used to hang around with Nicky Venables, Terry Wyler (RIP) & that crowd at the time.

Back to fashion - early seventies I used to have long blonde streaked hair & get a lot of my clothes from a mod / suedy type shop in East Ham, I used to turn up at the Torch in a pair of white skinner type jeans, rib striped airtex shirt & a black jacket with small white spots on, it was kind of pilly

By the way if anybody has an old pair of Skinners - I will pay big money for them, size & condition does'nt matter, just about to open a scooter / mod / skin / northern soul shop up here in Jakarta & looking for all kinds of gear lol

Great thread this & brilliant photos especially the one of the (skinny bugger - wonder why) been marched off.

Scobie

BTW - judging by the tag on the photo I think it was taken at the Peterborough Tech College so could be lads from Spalding but I dont think as far as Boston.

I vaguely remember these two guys at left at the front...were they from Boston or maybe I remember them from the Glider..??

Edited March 26, 2009 by Scobie

[Ric-tic 164]

Skinners were almost certainly dockwear, the shop worker told me they were from Liverpool/Manchester....perhaps we have a Liverpudlian SS member who could confirm?

SKINNERS- 87 WALTON ROAD LIVERPOOL 9

[Ian Parker 770]

looking for pics & memories of soul fashion from early casino days...anyone remember Julian Jeloneks in Mansfield? He made some great soul trousers way before Spencers...also the 'Dragonette' tee shirt/vest...Roxy Threads..Nottm...

you will find 'Roxy' Rob at any notts area venues on a weekend (cant miss him, he dances like a demon ) he can also be found as a seller on ebay "roxyrob"

http://myworld.ebay.co.uk/roxyrob&ssPa...:MEFSX:SELLERID

[Guest Super60sounds]

SKINNERS- 87 WALTON ROAD LIVERPOOL 9

Nice one Ric Tic - me and badge 73 vintage...

[Guest proudlove]

The photo was taken in '74.The guy with the vest on standing is Mike Hutchinson (Hutch) from Sale,he was at ours last night for the footy,and I picked his brains about it.He reckons he was hiding from the camera behind the guy who suddenly did a backdrop!Incidentally the same photo was used to publicise the play "Once upon a time in Wigan" that was doing the rounds recently.

[Ric-tic 164]

Nice one Ric Tic - me and badge 73 vintage...

sorry super60sounds ive made a mistake 87 walton road was FLEMMINGS! from my memory skinners was birkehead no?

[Citizen P 1,110]

The photo was taken in '74.The guy with the vest on standing is Mike Hutchinson (Hutch) from Sale,he was at ours last night for the footy,and I picked his brains about it.He reckons he was hiding from the camera behind the guy who suddenly did a backdrop!Incidentally the same photo was used to publicise the play "Once upon a time in Wigan" that was doing the rounds recently.

Still waiting for the snap of the fella in the Lime Green suit and the black guy in the full length leather

Take it easy mate.

Tony

[Guest proudlove]

Still waiting for the snap of the fella in the Lime Green suit and the black guy in the full length leather

Take it easy mate.

Tony

There isnt any photos,the bloke who had a camera donated it?!

[Citizen P 1,110]

There isnt any photos,the bloke who had a camera donated it?!

Probably to the tune of

"do you think You're Going Home with that Bag??"

Any way, always thought your good friend Mark Andrew was quite a snappy dresser.

Tony

[Guest proudlove]

Probably to the tune of

"do you think You're Going Home with that Bag??"

Any way, always thought your good friend Mark Andrew was quite a snappy dresser.

Tony

Yeh,he liked to borrow other peoples clothes and not return them------Mark the Shark---no,Mark the snake---tee hee

[Citizen P 1,110]

Yeh,he liked to borrow other peoples clothes and not return them------Mark the Shark---no,Mark the snake---tee hee

Don't mention the Cheese!

Aw, sh*t. I already did

Tony

[Illya 263]

The main man in York for all your tailoring needs is a chap called Mr Seymore used to be in Church Street now in Bootham still used by the better dressed person on the scene. Trevski say no more. I couldn't afford this style of dress had make do with half mast Sta-pres, 501's, didn't do Skinner or Brutus. Ben Sherman fitted shirts Red socks & crew neck sweater to match with brown loafers later club soled black brogues. They lasted about 10 years

Does anybody remember clown bags similar check to Prince of Wales check but boulder? those 2 coloured cardigans with 2 stripes on there arms

Harrington jacket, with the lining tailored to fit your tool of choice or suit jacket with a ticket pocket and half a dozen buttons on the cuffs The lads who I knocked about with were a cross between skins and boot boys were a bit older than me and were required to wear the Dr Martin boots in Gold, Silver Cherry red and black depending what position you were at in the pecking order. I started going to nighters and they used to take the piss as did most not on scene. I had my head shaved at York's nonsense barber called Derrick down an ally way and I had shaved in partings giving me the nick name "Football head" by some. First in York to have this style, A couple of years before it caught on with the Punks.

I did eventually get some tailor made Prince of Wales Check parallels and a Suit and the last thing I had made by Mr Seymore was my wedding suit.

I hated the brutus Pattern shirt the ones with the likes of Laurel and Hardys with rounded collars. Hated cheese cloth shirts, flares, Major Domo boots

[Paul R 265]

Does anybody remember clown bags similar check to Prince of Wales check but boulder? those 2 coloured cardigans with 2 stripes on there arms

I remember we used to call the trousers Ruperts as in "the Bear". My sister had them.

And do you mean the zip up cardigans, we called them football jumpers. My team, Southport, played in Old Gold, the nearest you could get was Yellow & black. The propper ones were some type of wool, but you could get cheep versions on the market made out of nylony acrylic stuff!. The colours were brighter, in blue & white or red & white but they were not real. The same thing was a black jumper with a red & green star on it. They came out with a cheepo version of that one with 3 stars, as worn by Wigans abortion on TOTP

Paul

[Sean Hampsey 1,218]

do you remeber a guy called Alan Fleisher from Rotherham..he was an early Wigan goer plus Sammys he was a hoot!

Fly is an old, old, friend of mine.

We grew up together, same rough old housing estate.

He was around for just a couple of years, (early Wigan & Sammys as you say).

He started a Building company in 78, with his late brother, Albert.

Good lads, both of 'em.

Lives in Dinnington and doing really well last time I saw him (a couple of years ago in a Restaurant).

Sean

[Illya 263]

I remember we used to call the trousers Ruperts as in "the Bear". My sister had them.

And do you mean the zip up cardigans, we called them football jumpers. My team, Southport, played in Old Gold, the nearest you could get was Yellow & black. The propper ones were some type of wool, but you could get cheep versions on the market made out of nylony acrylic stuff!. The colours were brighter, in blue & white or red & white but they were not real. The same thing was a black jumper with a red & green star on it. They came out with a cheepo version of that one with 3 stars, as worn by Wigans abortion on TOTP

Paul

Those are the ones I had black and yellow nylon thing and a posh one which was wool marroon one with 2 light blue stripe on 1 arm never did star thing I did red and blue argyle crew neck jumper years before the pringle thing

[manusf3a 1,401]

I remember we used to call the trousers Ruperts as in "the Bear". My sister had them.

And do you mean the zip up cardigans, we called them football jumpers. My team, Southport, played in Old Gold, the nearest you could get was Yellow & black. The propper ones were some type of wool, but you could get cheep versions on the market made out of nylony acrylic stuff!. The colours were brighter, in blue & white or red & white but they were not real. The same thing was a black jumper with a red & green star on it. They came out with a cheepo version of that one with 3 stars, as worn by Wigans abortion on TOTP

Paul

Remember those rupert checks,also the cardigans,Iwas about thirteen when they came out and although I had a pair of skinners bought for me at the time had to nick the cardigan and a few other items and leave them at the bottom of the garden and change back into what I went out from home in,sed to stay out all night then too (worth the slaps)and go over kettering from corby to the north park etc.Also did a shop at the time with a mate of mine and we got about 200 shirts,top class (got nicked for it later down the line)patchwork brutus shirts and loads of them round collar paisley and other design shirts among them I also got another one of those cardigans of the dummy that was in the shop window as when we got in there was a race between me and my mate to get said cardy but he fell over a rack of shirts so I got there first.Frank wright loafers were the footwear along with dm s (never had them and a type of wedge shoe thats sole looked a bit like a brothel creeper but not quite as clumpy.Remember the star jumpers and also parallel trouser the same width as skinners 24 inch I had a black pair and wore them with a barathea blazer,round this time lads such as Wilky were wearing torch badges on theirs.The sta press and button down shirt thing was around when Iwas about 11 and had even then a few of each with a harrington.Mispent youth early years hanging round with older lads but it was great .I was quite big for my age and when I was 13 used to have to go to the bar on occasions for my mates Kieth Harpur and George(of later on chemist robbing fame )to get the drinks as they couldnt get served even though they were three or four years older than me.Unfortunately leading such a quiet life led to some time away but hey swings and roundabouts though I look these days and dont think I would want a son of thirteen doing whgat I did but hey times were different then.Oh I always wanted a prince of wales check harrinton back then but never got my hands on one but the top coat of time and I have always really liked them had to be the sheepskin.

[Guest allnightandy]

Patchwork jumpers , Harrington bomber jackets , Crombi overcoats (with two tone hanky in pocket), barathea jacket's (taylor made with 12 buttons up each arm)

Petrol blue parallels Friggin Tartan flat caps , penny round collar shirts

Outlets : Stolen from Ivors and Justin's in Manchester Loads of us used to send our mums shopping for us , as older lads used to hang around outside and roll anyone carrying a Stolen from Ivors bag

[Stevie T 475]

We had mass gatherings at TREWS the tailors in Halifax 73 onwards, trousers , jackets , waistcoats , comparing drawings of what we wanted . Also used to have coats made at Burtons