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Anything known about this group ? I think their I'MWIA is vastly over rated as a "rarity" on the very common white demo,but I cannot recollect ever seeing an issue copy (green ?).

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  • Rich B
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    I always thought it sounded like a white group - blue eyed soulers would be too charitable....    Had a white copy, never even heard a rumour of any kind of issue.

  • Tobytyke
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    going off at a tangent. the best story ever relating to the soul scene has got to be Dave Mcaddens tale when he borrowed the Jades from Richard Searling when it was thought to be the only copy in the

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      So let me get this right - it's not worth going for the first copy that was discovered because it's a bit battered?

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Anything known about this group ? I think their I'MWIA is vastly over rated as a "rarity" on the very common white demo,but I cannot recollect ever seeing an issue copy (green ?).

Never seen or heard of an issue, anyone else??

If an issue of their 45 exists it must be pretty rare.

Edited by Garethx

There was a thread on the possible identity of the group about six months ago. Thanks to Sebastian F's research the consensus was that they were a group of Mexican Americans from Los Angeles and included Willie Wade who also had a 45 on the Nite Life subsidiary of Amy Mala Bell.

 

If an issue of their 45 exists it must be pretty rare.

 

Thanks for the replies,I kinda suspected it did'nt exist on an issue copy,which is strange anyway,but even stranger is that possibility of Mexicans down in New Orleans,recording a record like this ! My ageing ears told me they were African American's voices......mebbe someone can further the info ? Much appreciated.

ps. if I read that right,you said Willie Wade is Mexican ?

This group of Jades has no connection to the New Orleans group on Mode who were African Americans.

 I think their I'MWIA is vastly over rated as a "rarity" on the very common white demo,but I cannot recollect ever seeing an issue copy (green ?).

I don't agree that the demo is very common.

 

It's not unobtainable, but it's a long way from being very common!

 

 Records like Jimmy Robins on Jerhart!  Agent OO Soul -Edwin Starr etc. are records that are very common.

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I always thought it sounded like a white group - blue eyed soulers would be too charitable.... 

 

Had a white copy, never even heard a rumour of any kind of issue.

I always thought it sounded like a white group - blue eyed soulers would be too charitable.... 

 

Had a white copy, never even heard a rumour of any kind of issue.

Snap had the white copy.

I wonder who as got my old copy, easy to tell because I coloured in the lettering in red and blue markerpens.

just out of interest, who much does it go for? demo obviously, always wanted one, never owned it.

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Snap had the white copy.

I wonder who as got my old copy, easy to tell because I coloured in the lettering in red and blue markerpens.

 

Probably made it look better - and I bet it improved it's value no end...WOL indeed!

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just out of interest, who much does it go for? demo obviously, always wanted one, never owned it.

 

I'd hazard a guess at around £600 these days?

I'd hazard a guess at around £600 these days?

 

Balls.  It's £599   :lol:

 

sorry Gene couldn't resist it

Balls.  It's £599   :lol:

 

sorry Gene couldn't resist it

 

Ya booger!!  :D  :D

 

(Oh no - I've got no toys to throw out of my pram!!!)

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Tim Browns got the demo down at £500, and the issue at £1000. :)

Tim Browns got the demo down at £500, and the issue at £1000. :)

 

Has anyone ever seen an issue?

going off at a tangent. the best story ever relating to the soul scene has got to be Dave Mcaddens tale when he borrowed the Jades from Richard Searling when it was thought to be the only copy in the country. The full story is in Soul Galore issue 2. Although i never met Dave McCadden when speaking on the phone or corresponding with him he had a terrific sense of humour. His record reviews are the best ive read.

going off at a tangent. the best story ever relating to the soul scene has got to be Dave Mcaddens tale when he borrowed the Jades from Richard Searling when it was thought to be the only copy in the country. The full story is in Soul Galore issue 2. Although i never met Dave McCadden when speaking on the phone or corresponding with him he had a terrific sense of humour. His record reviews are the best ive read.

Is it the chip shop story - or a different one?

This was considered an uber rare record in the very mid 70s, it changed hands for large amounts of wedge, amounts not relative to its value today. Still love that intro today.

Edit, Pete S will know better, but there were stories of this selling for £400 back then Im sure, talkin 75/76 maybe? But i remember it being talked about.

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This was considered an uber rare record in the very mid 70s, it changed hands for large amounts of wedge, amounts not relative to its value today. Still love that intro today.

Edit, Pete S will know better, but there were stories of this selling for £400 back then Im sure, talkin 75/76 maybe? But i remember it being talked about.

 

It was a monster Casino record in it's time and I'm sure Richard had the only one for a long time. And yes, I remember the warp it acquired after the unfortunate Fish and Chip shop incident. 

 

I wasn't over keen on it but that intro riff was very infectious so it was like a magnet to the dance floor at the time. I always thought it was pretty rare. I've never found one and it was always on my search list........

 

Ian D  :D

Is it the chip shop story - or a different one?

Pretty sure it's the chip shop story. I'll try and dig it out and post a scan of it when I get back from work this evening.

 

Dave

I still have a John manships list at my mums, this was on as this weeks monster Nite-life Demo £55.00. My old mate Graham Kelly from York bought that one. Was talking to John last year about rare issues and this one came up, neither of us had heard of let alone seen an issue, but never say never I say.

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Always a hard to locate record. Never seen an issue or a scan of one yet there's been plenty of green issue Willie Wades on the market in recent years. Manship auctioned a Jades WD year or two ago and it fetched over £800. This was always a massive Casino record and did much for the growing tendency for synchronized hand-clapping in 1974-75. Are the Jades several groups with releases on Imperial L-O-V-E, Lucky Fellow release out of New Orleans and the Nite Life release? Not an over-rated record by any stretch of the imagination, a great dance-floor tune despite it's blue-eyed/Rock N Roll undertones: a record that has stood the test of time, surely the hallmark of true quality, probably due to it's uniqueness.

Always a hard to locate record. Never seen an issue or a scan of one yet there's been plenty of green issue Willie Wades on the market in recent years. Manship auctioned a Jades WD year or two ago and it fetched over £800. This was always a massive Casino record and did much for the growing tendency for synchronized hand-clapping in 1974-75. Are the Jades several groups with releases on Imperial L-O-V-E, Lucky Fellow release out of New Orleans and the Nite Life release? Not an over-rated record by any stretch of the imagination, a great dance-floor tune despite it's blue-eyed/Rock N Roll undertones: a record that has stood the test of time, surely the hallmark of true quality, probably due to it's uniqueness.

jades on mode is a different group altogether...african american,,,,,jades on nightlife are white  more of a garage record

jades on mode is a different group altogether...african american,,,,,jades on nightlife are white  more of a garage record

 

There must be half a dozen Jades, I know there's a girl group of that name as well

was frank wilson involved in the same chip shop story

 

Yeah, I heard this story moons ago but as Frank Wilson - chinese whispers at work no doubt.

Yeah, I heard this story moons ago but as Frank Wilson - chinese whispers at work no doubt.

 

Didn't that fall behind a heater on the stage of a niter or something?

Didn't that fall behind a heater on the stage of a niter or something?

 

Not heard that one. Anyone?

Not heard that one. Anyone?

 

There was a 'timeline' of the history of Frank Wilson in the first issue of Kev Roberts' "Northern Soul Top 500" issued in 2000 - pretty sure something like that was mentioned in it somewhere (either it fell behind a heater or was left somewhere hot and developed the edge warp)?

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No. The Jades only. 

 

Ian D  :D

 

and a chip shop!

and a chip shop!

 

So let me get this right - it's not worth going for the first copy that was discovered because it's a bit battered?

I still have a John manships list at my mums, this was on as this weeks monster Nite-life Demo £55.00. My old mate Graham Kelly from York bought that one. Was talking to John last year about rare issues and this one came up, neither of us had heard of let alone seen an issue, but never say never I say.

Your memory never ceases to amaze me H :)

IIRC There were some Yellow counterfeits/bootlegs done as issues knocking about in the very early 80s - Can anyone else confirm ?

Unless yours looks like " a tarantula on it's wedding night" (love that description) Ted, it could be a photo label on a boot :wicked: Only kidding Ted

£600 for an overated rarity lol :lol:

Agreed Dave, awful record IMHO, to even talk about it ( Nobody has) in the same sentence as Lucky Fellow is an insult to the boys on Mode. Willie Wade is a different matter though, 2 great sides

 

Kev, 

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Never seen or heard of an issue, anyone else??

 

The issue is not Green, but actually Red, according to Mike Norriega.

Agreed Dave, awful record IMHO, to even talk about it ( Nobody has) in the same sentence as Lucky Fellow is an insult to the boys on Mode. Willie Wade is a different matter though, 2 great sides

 

Kev, 

IMHO "I'm Where Its At" The Jades on Nitelife is a ten times better Northern Soul record than Lucky Fellow! 

Willie Wade wrote "I'm Where It's At" and could be singing it!

IMHO "I'm Where Its At" The Jades on Nitelife is a ten times better Northern Soul record than Lucky Fellow! 

Willie Wade wrote "I'm Where It's At" and could be singing it!

 

I'm Where It's At truly sums up what a really exciting, dancefloor filler was at the end of 75, start of 76, the hand claps are a call to arms and so what if it's not oozing soul, it's a blood and thunder stormer and you can send me some of these every day please, while I'm nodding off to the latest 2 mile an hour midtempo tune I can remember when records like this made the Northern scene the most exciting place a 16 year old could ever want to be.

The issue is not Green, but actually Red, according to Mike Norriega.

 

I'll believe it when I see it for myself I think.

Though I used to say that about the Dean Courtney MGM issue

If anyone can direct me to who has a copy for sale demo or green stock please reply.

I dont know how to contact Time Brown so any help greatly apprieciated.

Thanks dallas

In my early days of being fascinated with Northern, I loved the sound of this record and while shopping found a copy of the boot on Ree. Overpaid for it (imho) but I just had to have that sound at that time. I still like its rawness but its certainly never a record I listen to or play out any longer. And now its on my sales list for a fraction of what I bought it for and can't seem to get rid of the thing. Such is the world of collecting and trading records, I guess. 

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