Before I get slagged off for this, firstly the journalist in question asked me to put him in touch with Nick, but Nick declined to speak to him.  Secondly, I don't actually use the phrase "half inched" so there is some poetic license there.  But it's a good plug for Soul Source and at least one person in the comments section has followed the link and come on here.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2014/jun/27/souls-holy-grail-why-the-rarest-record-in-the-world-is-causing-so-much-fuss

What does your football team have to do with anything?

Nice one!

Should have been in The Sun...

Like how they got in that you're a Wolves fan Pete.  

What does your football team have to do with anything?

 

Well he probably going to say "dealer, collector and something else" so just put "Wolves fan".  I dunno.

Must learn to type faster on here me.  

The chap who wrote it, Bob Stanley, does know his onions, he wrote a brilliant book on the history of pop Yeah Yeah Yeah, he formed the band Saint Etienne and made one of the greatest records of the 90's, he advises on various music programs and I saw my first ever copy of Don Gardner Is This Really Love at his house, he does know what he is on about.

Good stuff Pete 'Wolves fan' Smith.

Great story. What a find. Nice that it's written up.

I think the article read well for a newspaper piece.....nice one mr 'I'd be in Brazil' with the proceeds of the sale....love your honesty.....Rob

What record was the greatest?

What record was the greatest?

 

Sorry Reg?

As someone just pointed out to me - the article really does Darrell Banks some justice as well, link to a clip of OTTDTYH, mention of Soul Of Detroit and the story of his death - might get people to listen to the music

Did it make the Print edition?

 

Mal

No I think it's only in the online one

yep, great article.....mr. smith hogs the limelight whilst nick w "stands in the shadows" of darrell banks  

Good article and well done Pete in the way you went about it. Can't blame Nick for wanting to keep his head down.

Kev

yep, great article.....mr. smith hogs the limelight whilst nick w "stands in the shadows" of darrell banks  

 

Is supplying two quotes "hogging the limelight" when the man in question doesn't want to talk about it?

Good stuff Pete 'Wolves fan' Smith.

A missed opportunity for a journalist would or could have been " Peter & the wolves " who I believe were a British label act ;)

Well done Pete ,nice to see the story is getting wider recognition and hope Nick is not feeling too pressured to sell it ;)

Nick discovered it 

Is supplying two quotes "hogging the limelight" when the man in question doesn't want to talk about it?

even the wolves are getting some press!

anyway, pete...off track for a minute.....haven't got a copy of connie austin have you?

anyway, pete...off track for a minute.....haven't got a copy of connie austin have you?

 

No mate sorry...

They mention Darrell performing on the TV show American Bandstand. Is there any way to search their archive to perhaps get to see him performing?

 

Would love to see that.

 

Kev Bod

I think the article read well for a newspaper piece.....nice one mr 'I'd be in Brazil' with the proceeds of the sale....love your honesty.....Rob

 

yep I agree with that

nice one Pete

Fame at last Pete  - well deserved    

Before I get slagged off for this, firstly the journalist in question asked me to put him in touch with Nick, but Nick declined to speak to him.  Secondly, I don't actually use the phrase "half inched" so there is some poetic license there.  But it's a good plug for Soul Source and at least one person in the comments section has followed the link and come on here.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2014/jun/27/souls-holy-grail-why-the-rarest-record-in-the-world-is-causing-so-much-fuss

Was wondering though, did Nick ask you to go to the journalist?

Was wondering though, did Nick ask you to go to the journalist?

 

No, I was asked if I could get Nick to talk to The Guardian but he said he didn't want to at this point in time: so then Bob asked if he could quote me as he was going to do the piece anyway, so I said of course he could, I've known him for 25 years .  I think he did a great job.

Incidentally, I also had Record Collector magazine asking if I would put them in touch with Nick but I told them the same as I told Bob, he didn't want to do it.

Edited June 27, 201410 yr by Pete S

Great stuff Pete. An extremely well written piece too. Nice to know we're especially intense. :-) 

Well he probably going to say "dealer, collector and something else" so just put "Wolves fan". I dunno.

Think the article is a decent effort.

At least they didn't put your age Pete :-)

Nice to see something in the mainstream for once that does,nt make me cringe

 

Well done Pete

Nice to see something in the mainstream for once that does,nt make me cringe

 

Well done Pete

 

Thanks, I agree, it was very un-cringeworthy, at last.

Good article Pete that shows the 'right side' of record collecting and how important the details are to the purchaser. The fact you got the Wolves a mention was a bonus!  Ade

No, I was asked if I could get Nick to talk to The Guardian but he said he didn't want to at this point in time:

 

Pete

 

Why do you think Nick is being so coy about this?

 

We are all entitled to our privacy but I asked what I thought was a pretty unintrusive question on the other thread - i.e. did the collection containing the DB single come to market as a private sale or through an auction. But no reply.

 

I'm surprised you guys aren't desperate to know stuff like that. Or maybe information is being shared via PM that some of us aren't seeing.

 

Just a thought.

Sorry Reg?

Sorry..I meant which St Etienne record?

Pete

 

Why do you think Nick is being so coy about this?

 

We are all entitled to our privacy but I asked what I thought was a pretty unintrusive question on the other thread - i.e. did the collection containing the DB single come to market as a private sale or through an auction. But no reply.

 

I'm surprised you guys aren't desperate to know stuff like that. Or maybe information is being shared via PM that some of us aren't seeing.

 

Just a thought.

 

I don't know, but it's his perogative.  This is why I said at the start of this thread, don't anyone moan at me for supplying a quote or the basis of the article when the main man wasn't available for comment.

Sorry..I meant which St Etienne record?

 

This one...

 

I am really suprised at The Guardian running an article on a record that nobody apart from the owner has seen.

 

Incidentally, I also had Record Collector magazine asking if I would put them in touch with Nick but I told them the same as I told Bob, he didn't want to do it.

 

Oh they've woken up at last……what a joke one of the biggest stories in British record collecting in the last decade…..and they were asleep at the wheel.

I am really suprised at The Guardian running an article on a record that nobody apart from the owner has seen.

 

So do you think we're being had here?  The scans looked conclusive didn't they?  As I said to someone last night - if it is a scam, at least nobody got killed so it's not the end of the world.

Pete Im really not sure.A copy turns up out of the blue and its first reported on here.We get some amazing scans....but there is still yet no corroboration from anyone else seeing it in the flesh.Record collecting still does throw up some amazing rarities but the stories are usually accompanied by photos of the record etc.Maybe he us looking for an agent for the record scoop of the post millenium story or he may be worried about ownership.

Edited June 28, 201410 yr by wiggyflat

I don't know, but it's his perogative.  This is why I said at the start of this thread, don't anyone moan at me for supplying a quote or the basis of the article when the main man wasn't available for comment.

 

Maybe he just doesn't want it known publicly that he has this ... a bit like winning the lottery, you go through the right channels to have it verified, stating you want no publicity... then someone goes to the press and tells them ?

Why would you need to come on here to ask about a question on a Darrell Banks issue.The man knows about pressing plants...he knows about freakbeat.He has the connections to be buying ex employees of pressing plants collections. It was widely reported prior to this that the UK issue was rumoured not to exist.Im sure he is in the right circles to find about this record.The record is even on 45 Cat now with no mention that nobody has corroborated its existance.Has anyone seen it?? It seems like the myth and enthusiasm is overtaking solid fact.I want to be proven wrong and I want to see the 5 page Mojo piece and the record being corroborated with John Manship and the owner (whoever that is now).

Edited June 28, 201410 yr by wiggyflat

 Well written article........and if the doubting Thomas's turn out to be correct......Pete could do a follow up interview about the hoax........"Wolves Fan falls for Dummy" 

Why would you need to come on here to ask about a question on a Darrell Banks issue.The man knows about pressing plants...he knows about freakbeat.He has the connections to be buying ex employees of pressing plants collections. It was widely reported prior to this that the UK issue was rumoured not to exist.Im sure he is in the right circles to find about this record.The record is even on 45 Cat now with no mention that nobody has corroborated its existance.Has anyone seen it?? It seems like the myth and enthusiasm is overtaking solid fact.I want to be proven wrong and I want to see the 5 page Mojo piece and the record being corroborated with John Manship and the owner (whoever that is now).

 

the guys a member!

why are you talking about him as if he's not ?

have you pm'd him or asked him via this or the other thread

he was online 3 mins ago

 

people need to start treating this site and its members real world instead of these  lazy almost stirring type posts

Maybe he just doesn't want it known publicly that he has this ... a bit like winning the lottery, you go through the right channels to have it verified, stating you want no publicity... then someone goes to the press and tells them ?

 

But he posted it on here and gave us all photographs of it, and asked for people to verify it, because he didn't want anyone to know he'd got it?

Within 60 seconds it was worldwide news.

I do not see my post as lazy.He is a member.The search engine would have given him the answer in seconds.A google search would have given the answer in seconds.If this was to remain private then why the post?? This would have been a major scoop for the Guardian.I have sent a pm asking him when this find is going to he verified by an expert.I hope the holy grail has been found but until it has been verified it still remains a myth.

I do not see my post as lazy.He is a member.The search engine would have given him the answer in seconds.A google search would have given the answer in seconds.If this was to remain private then why the post?? This would have been a major scoop for the Guardian.I have sent a pm asking him when this find is going to he verified by an expert.I hope the holy grail has been found but until it has been verified it still remains a myth.

 

Nothing wrong with asking questions.

But he posted it on here and gave us all photographs of it, and asked for people to verify it, because he didn't want anyone to know he'd got it?

Within 60 seconds it was worldwide news.

 

Posting on here for verification in my book is not an open invitation to publicise it all over the internet or in the newspapers ... as far as I am aware he did none of this, other people did.  It is obvious the guy wants no publicity and wants to be left alone, otherwise he would respond on the thread or to the I imagine hundreds of PMs that are sitting in his in box .. how he came about ownership has been confirmed by himself, he bought from the estate of an ex Decca pressing plant employee  ... why can't you all just be happy with that ?