Hopkins Bros On Ebay

[Mister Fish]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/371103771544?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

 

Carver for £10k anyone?

Edited August 1, 2014 by Mister Fish

[grant]

kin ell 2 bids on it

[Guest Bearsy]

That's buggered up the sellers auction lol

[Jaco]

Yeah but look at the "vintage" sleeve.

[perux]

...there seems to be a misunderstanding and someone has bid 10k on this, i have removed the record and hope this sillyness will cease,i have spoken to the tracks owners dave welding and all is fine,please read the text in the description it clearly explains its part of a collection of purchased from a dj without any knowledge of any the tracks titles as they are all blank,TO BE CLEAR THEY ARE ALL SINGLE COPIES and are in no way an attempt to reproduce/reissue/bootleg any of the titles,this may appear trivial but i take it very seriously indeed as it could have a negative effect on my business...many thanks,steve jeffries 

[Marc Forrest]

out of interest wasnt there already a re-release ? 

[grant]

out of interest wasnt there already a re-release ? 

yes has been rereleased Mark on Soul Junction

[Pete S]

This DJ seems to have a carver of every record ever made.

[Guest wrighty]

surprised no-one's mentioned this but if these carvers are supposedly from a DJ collection and they're all blank with no artist/title how the hell would he have known what he was playing (when dj'ing)? 

[Tattoodave]

surprised no-one's mentioned this but if these carvers are supposedly from a DJ collection and they're all blank with no artist/title how the hell would he have known what he was playing (when dj'ing)? 

DJedi

[Guest john s]

This DJ seems to have a carver of every record ever made.

Only the rare ones!

[Guest rennie]

Wonder where he or she DJ'd....

[Steve L]

Wonder where he or she DJ'd....

 

I'm glad I wasn't there….tosser

[Guest rennie]

I'm glad I wasn't there….tosser

 

S'pose you could tell by the pile of rocks left on the stage....

[KevH]

S'pose you could tell by the pile of rocks left on the stage....

 

Leave no turn unstoned.

[pow wow mik]

...there seems to be a misunderstanding and someone has bid 10k on this, i have removed the record and hope this sillyness will cease,i have spoken to the tracks owners dave welding and all is fine,please read the text in the description it clearly explains its part of a collection of purchased from a dj without any knowledge of any the tracks titles as they are all blank,TO BE CLEAR THEY ARE ALL SINGLE COPIES and are in no way an attempt to reproduce/reissue/bootleg any of the titles,this may appear trivial but i take it very seriously indeed as it could have a negative effect on my business...many thanks,steve jeffries

probably not a misunderstanding. Djing with carvers of rare tracks is really crap, selling carvers of rare tracks is really crap, buying carvers of rare tracks us really crap.

if that's your business, get a proper job.

[Russ Vickers]

...there seems to be a misunderstanding and someone has bid 10k on this, i have removed the record and hope this sillyness will cease,i have spoken to the tracks owners dave welding and all is fine,please read the text in the description it clearly explains its part of a collection of purchased from a dj without any knowledge of any the tracks titles as they are all blank,TO BE CLEAR THEY ARE ALL SINGLE COPIES and are in no way an attempt to reproduce/reissue/bootleg any of the titles,this may appear trivial but i take it very seriously indeed as it could have a negative effect on my business...many thanks,steve jeffries 

 

Hey Steve, hope you are well.  What you are saying may well be true & above board mate, but it is my understanding, that IF the carvers from this collection are counterfeit, even if you have bought them in good faith, by selling them on again, even unknowingly, you may still be liable ?.  I don't think it is worth risking your business & or reputation, over a misunderstanding on a discs authenticity, even though as I you say, you may have bought in good faith.

 

Best Russ

[Reg Scott]

...there seems to be a misunderstanding and someone has bid 10k on this, i have removed the record and hope this sillyness will cease,i have spoken to the tracks owners dave welding and all is fine,please read the text in the description it clearly explains its part of a collection of purchased from a dj without any knowledge of any the tracks titles as they are all blank,TO BE CLEAR THEY ARE ALL SINGLE COPIES and are in no way an attempt to reproduce/reissue/bootleg any of the titles,this may appear trivial but i take it very seriously indeed as it could have a negative effect on my business...many thanks,steve jeffries 

 

Am I reading this right "..I have spoken to the tracks owners Dave Welding and all is fine.." So is DW the DJ the carvers were bought from or DW is the owner of these blank unknown discs that have turned out be of some very rare and expensive records and the DJ they were purchased from is anonymous.

 

Very confusing state of affairs at any rate..

[Pete S]

Am I reading this right "..I have spoken to the tracks owners Dave Welding and all is fine.." So is DW the DJ the carvers were bought from or DW is the owner of these blank unknown discs that have turned out be of some very rare and expensive records and the DJ they were purchased from is anonymous.

 

Very confusing state of affairs at any rate..

 

No, DW is the person who owns the license to release the record in the UK officially

[Guest Aaron Darcy]

probably not a misunderstanding. Djing with carvers of rare tracks is really crap, selling carvers of rare tracks is really crap, buying carvers of rare tracks us really crap.

if that's your business, get a proper job.

Well said my friend ' i agree with you.

[Guest Aaron Darcy]

Cavers' boots ' reissues do my headin dj-ing buy or selling them.

[Ncfc]

Cavers' boots ' reissues do my headin dj-ing buy or selling them.

Yes they are a pain in the arse,also see a lot of dealers listing records as unknown or unlisted when most i have looked at have been known for years.

Edited August 4, 2014 by NCFC

[Reg Scott]

No, DW is the person who owns the license to release the record in the UK officially

 

Thanks for the clarification Pete. I felt if people weren't aware that DW had the rights to the Hopkins Brothers, was involved with Soul Junction and had produced the legal reissue that the post by Perux was unclear and could be misconstrued or misunderstood. In no way was I implying Dave was involved with carvers himself simply looking for a clarification from the seller of these carvers..

[Pete S]

Thanks for the clarification Pete. I felt if people weren't aware that DW had the rights to the Hopkins Brothers, was involved with Soul Junction and had produced the legal reissue that the post by Perux was unclear and could be misconstrued or misunderstood. In no way was I implying Dave was involved with carvers himself simply looking for a clarification from the seller of these carvers..

 

I never thought you were - didn't read like that to me

[Liljimmycrank]

No, DW is the person who owns the license to release the record in the UK officially

 

 

So i'm still confused (and this is certainly no dig at anyone). Please can someone clarify where i have added a '??'...........

 

Dave Welding owns the right to release these officially in the UK.

The ebay seller has asked DW if it's ok to re-sell the carvers that have come into his possession from anonymous DJ??

The bootleg/carvers have been done with DW's consent originally, assuming that's why he's said it's "ok" and probably come from DW's recording, whatever format that exists on??

 

If the above is correct, it's simply a case that carvers have been allowed to be done by someone who owns the rights to all of the records, whether that be for personal or profitable use. Then someone has acquired said carvers from said person via some means and is now selling them on to joe public under a rather vague and confusing description on ebay but with the permission of the originator (DW). The ebay buyer is still purchasing a carver and can't be sure of it's legitimacy without reading this thread i guess, but that's their choice.

 

I'd be keen to know whether DW has the rights to the Willie Dale carver sold by the same seller?? Or is that a different licencee??

[Pete S]

So i'm still confused (and this is certainly no dig at anyone). Please can someone clarify where i have added a '??'...........

 

Dave Welding owns the right to release these officially in the UK.

The ebay seller has asked DW if it's ok to re-sell the carvers that have come into his possession from anonymous DJ??

The bootleg/carvers have been done with DW's consent originally, assuming that's why he's said it's "ok" and probably come from DW's recording, whatever format that exists on??

 

If the above is correct, it's simply a case that carvers have been allowed to be done by someone who owns the rights to all of the records, whether that be for personal or profitable use. Then someone has acquired said carvers from said person via some means and is now selling them on to joe public under a rather vague and confusing description on ebay but with the permission of the originator (DW). The ebay buyer is still purchasing a carver and can't be sure of it's legitimacy without reading this thread i guess, but that's their choice.

 

I'd be keen to know whether DW has the rights to the Willie Dale carver sold by the same seller?? Or is that a different licencee??

 

Dave hasn't said that any carvers of his stuff can be sold, in fact totally the opposite.

[Peter99]

I know I'm not the brightest kid on the block but I still don't get it.

[Liljimmycrank]

Dave hasn't said that any carvers of his stuff can be sold, in fact totally the opposite.

Thanks Pete.

So we can assume then that the quote in the thread earlier about it being ok is an untruth?

Quick edit on my part. The quote earlier doesn't actually mention any content about what they and DW talked about.

Still mightily confused though :-)

Edited August 5, 2014 by LilJimmyCrank

[Pete S]

Thanks Pete.

So we can assume then that the quote in the thread earlier about it being ok is an untruth?

Quick edit on my part. The quote earlier doesn't actually mention any content about what they and DW talked about.

Still mightily confused though :-)

 

I'll PM you

[Pete S]

From Dave Welding (no access to PC at this moment)

 

Regarding the recent Hopkins Brothers carver: Soul Junction Records, having purchased the masters and publishing outright from Mr Sylvester Hopkins, are now the outright owners of the tracks  Shake Sherry and Kiss Of Fire.

We contacted Mr Steve Jeffries in regard to the carver of these two tracks that he had for sale.  Mr Jeffries assured us that this was a single copy item and that no more copies existed, and he would withdraw the item from sale, which he did.  As far as we are concerned, that was the end of that matter.

Regarding any other tracks that have appeared on carvers, we have no claim on any of those, but we are against the manufacture of any counterfeit or perceived counterfeit items.

I hope this clarifies the matter to all.

Dave Welding

[Liljimmycrank]

Top insight as always Pete. Thanks for clearing it up

[Jnixon]

surprised no-one's mentioned this but if these carvers are supposedly from a DJ collection and they're all blank with no artist/title how the hell would he have known what he was playing (when dj'ing)? 

 

symbiotic telepathy existed between the man and the contents of the faked record box. punters with blood spraying from their tinnitus sodden ears have reported carvers leaving the box and entering the DJs hand resembling something from an early 90s episode of Mahabharat. 

 

would strongly urge all who are tempted to veer clear of any purchase as the next step in this madness involves trying to sell numero box set 45s for 100 quid and as yet there's no known cure for this rare condition.    

[Guest Matt Male]

Who needs labels eh? When I DJ and the promoter asks, 'where's your playbox?' I give a wink, tap the side of my head and say, 'It's all up here...'

 

Needless to say I don't get many spots.

Edited August 5, 2014 by Matt Male