However good they are.

 

I just got a tape through of a storming mid 60s out and out Northern track. Once it's cleared I'll play it at the 100 Club but following Matt's thread I'm wondering if many people will get as big a buzz from it as I do.

 

I think the oldies crowd are mainly happy to relive their youth and if a new Frank Wilson record were discovered, probably wouldn't bother to listen. The rarer soul crowd don't seem to get excited about tape discoveries as they are never going to be able to collect them in original form and when they get issued on a UK 45 don't bother with it because its not vintage US pressing. Even when records go on to the anniversary single the DJs don't usually pick up on them. I remember Richard Searling and many others raving about Dean Courtney's 'Today Is My Day', describing it as an ultimate Wigan record, yet once it was on 45 nobody bothered, and that was with Sharon Scott's sublime 'Putting My Heart Under Lock & Key' on the flip.

 

Records like Luther Ingram 'Oh Baby Don't You Weep' did go big but it was mainly down to the mod scene rather than the Northern. Oddly a lot of the new 100 Clubbers seem keener on the funk edge or R&B than the classic Northern sound. They are open-minded and enjoy it all but their preferences are different to those of us who grew up through the 70s.

 

I'm not bemoaning it, just observing and putting a plug in for people to pick up on some of the old Kent and 100 Club anniversary singles and actually play them out; I think a lot of them deserve some spins and they would be new classic Northern for dancers who must be bored with the top 500 by now.

Look forward to the Nancy Wilcox tracks Ady , I think it would be a good idea to get Ace /Kent to do a regular mixcloud or youtube mix , say a minute of each track being featured at 100 Club .I feel this would build demand in this  computer age, not everyone goes to 100 Club , and even if you do [ like myself ] ,it sometimes takes a few visits for certain records to hit home .Also ,was speaking to a regular record dealer about selling records ,and he said many  of his customers don't even attend All Niters or Soul nights , so there is certainly a hidden market out there . Best wishes ,Eddie 

Thanks Eddie, I don't know how the last mixcloud went up so would need some advice, I can make the mix OK but don't know where and how to put it up.

Thanks Eddie, I don't know how the last mixcloud went up so would need some advice, I can make the mix OK but don't know where and how to put it up.

 

I can help you with that when you are ready Ady. 

Ady,

 

For what its worth in my opinion sixties newies are great the problem is that they don't get enough exposure the sheer volume of quality that has came out of KENT is incredible. The Barbara and the Browns CD was fantastic  including my favorite I am going to start a war. It seems to me more people should travel to hear new tunes not just Kent stuff but the other tunes that are played at progressive venues in the country.  

I can help you with that when you are ready Ady. 

You're on, I'll have a crack next week.

 

ta

Wouldn't it be great if the 100 Club became a weekly allnighter ?

Wouldn't it be great if the 100 Club became a weekly allnighter ?

 

Nah,treat em mean,keep em keen. 

Wouldn't it be great if the 100 Club became a weekly allnighter ?

 

In an ideal world... Yes, Sunny but inevitably it would die a death, there isn't a weekly nighter in the World (is there?)

Ady, the fact is that any Dj worth a dam would kill to have some one off quality 60's northern to play. I would have walked over hot coals to have some when I was promoting. 

 

The ones you sold to JT went down a storm when he played them at Burnley. The Cavaliers track was the b*llocks.

Edited February 7, 201510 yr by pikeys dog
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Wouldn't it be great if the 100 Club became a weekly allnighter ?

 

We can't even get support for a monthly event, never mind weekly. And even Ady couldn't supply enough new 60's to feed a weekly event.

Wouldn't it be great if the 100 Club became a weekly allnighter ?

 

My immediate reaction to this was - It would die on it's *rse.......But who knows, once this film is out, it may have the 'Quadrophenia effect', many new people getting interested so that The 100 Club does open every Sat night (like normal clubs) Obviously most people wouldn't go every week, but that wouldn't matter being so many more people into it, guaranteeing a full house every week - Maybe even Friday as well!

 

Yeh, I recon Ady would love to do it  

 

Len  

Edited September 4, 201410 yr by LEN

I love the whole concept of 60`s newies always have and always will.On the subject of the kent and its releases again please keep them coming the best ever. During the 1990`s when my two sons were growing up if it wasn`t for the kent LP`S AND CD`s and the occasional visit to keele allnighter I would have probably gone mad.

Ady is the "Governer" of the 100 club, it's his baby so can't see anyone muscling in, besides, like he say's, has his nipper at weekends,

so a weekly nighter there.... forget it

My immediate reaction to this was - It would die on it's *rse.......But who knows, once this film is out, it may have the 'Quadrophenia effect', many new people getting interested so that The 100 Club does open every Sat night (like normal clubs) Obviously most people wouldn't go every week, but that wouldn't matter being so many more people into it, guaranteeing a full house every week - Maybe even Friday as well!

 

Yeh, I recon Ady would love to do it  

 

Len  

 

Exactly.

 

There are many more reasons why it could work than not.

 

No other nighter/venue/geographic location is better placed than the 100 Club to go weekly and appeal to the 18-39 demographic and capitalise on the interest that the film is about to generate. And the fact that the 100 Club is a "(night)club" in the nation's capital will always make it more alluring to a younger element than an old ballroom or men's club in a remote town or location. Not that there's anything wrong with that of course as that is the foundation on which the scene has operated so well for so long. But we are talking about a new approach here.

 

And while it is well established that many of the "seniors" on the scene at present wouldn't be inclined to attend a weekly event, you can be almost certain that a younger crowd would ... for all the same reasons that those on the scene back in the day would go every week.

 

Ady is obviously a promoter who  thinks "outside the square" and he has shown recently that he is prepared to get people like Matt involved in his operation to offer a fresh perspective on things.  And with a little marketing and promotion outside of the existing scene, a weekly 100 Club Allnighter could very easily become the vanguard venue for the scene in much the same way that the Wheel/Torch/Wigan were in their time.

Edited September 5, 201410 yr by sunnysoul

Strewth. I'm exhausted just thinking about it

Exactly.

 

There are many more reasons why it could work than not.

 

No other nighter/venue/geographic location is better placed than the 100 Club to go weekly and appeal to the 18-39 demographic and capitalise on the interest that the film is about to generate. And the fact that the 100 Club is a "(night)club" in the nation's capital will always make it more alluring to a younger element than an old ballroom or men's club in a remote town or location. Not that there's anything wrong with that of course as that is the foundation on which the scene has operated so well for so long. But we are talking about a new approach here.

 

And while it is well established that many of the "seniors" on the scene at present wouldn't be inclined to attend a weekly event, you can be almost certain that a younger crowd would ... for all the same reasons that those on the scene back in the day would go every week.

 

Ady is obviously a promoter who  thinks "outside the square" and he has shown recently that he is prepared to get people like Matt involved in his operation to offer a fresh perspective on things.  And with a little marketing and promotion outside of the existing scene, a weekly 100 Club Allnighter could very easily become the vanguard venue for the scene in much the same way that the Wheel/Torch/Wigan were in their time.

Geographically no other place better than Central London? but thats in the very very South of England, what about our very very Northern England & Scot's young'ns, would you lay buses on for em'? How long do you reckon a weekly nighter could be sustained? ee lad, we can all dream

Strewth. I'm exhausted just thinking about it

 

You know you can do it.  

 

The potential of it all is tantalising to say the least.

I suppose the other thing to consider if there was a huge youth influx would they want to hang about in a club full of old fat bald men (i am one of them) ? If I hadve walked into the Casino in '77 or Hinckley or indeed Stafford would I have hung around ? I doubt it. I think youngsters in large numbers would be put off by what they find if attracted to the  Scene. 

I suppose the other thing to consider if there was a huge youth influx would they want to hang about in a club full of old fat bald men (i am one of them) ? If I hadve walked into the Casino in '77 or Hinckley or indeed Stafford would I have hung around ? I doubt it. I think youngsters in large numbers would be put off by what they find if attracted to the  Scene. 

 

I agree with that.But in the same respect do you want to hang around on the youngsters scene?.Techno ,house,rave or whatever.? I'm sure most would feel like a fish out of water at these venues now.

You know you can do it.  

 

The potential of it all is tantalising to say the least.

 

How many times do I have to say this?................THERE ISN'T ENOUGH NEW MUSIC TO SUSTAIN A WEEKLY NIGHTER!

I suppose the other thing to consider if there was a huge youth influx would they want to hang about in a club full of old fat bald men (i am one of them) ? If I hadve walked into the Casino in '77 or Hinckley or indeed Stafford would I have hung around ? I doubt it. I think youngsters in large numbers would be put off by what they find if attracted to the  Scene. 

Depends whats dragging them in, is it a genuine love of soul music, or just wanting to "fit in" to a scene

 

Kev

We can't even get support for a monthly event, never mind weekly. 

What's planned?

Surely there's already too many events.

So on the sixties newies >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes more and often.

On the on the other stuff maybe in another topic ?

 

The main thin that keeps me traveling is to here new tunes from lots of genres (but I don't want funk and disco at the 100)

 

Northern is a broad church but WE need to preserve what its about it has always bee a 6T'S scene to me !   

I agree with Phil there isn't enough new music, interest nor desire to go to the same venue week in week out.  The nearest we have been in recent times was Sheridans and that had a different club at the helm every week.  That kinda venue might work but not one offering the same every week.

Edited September 5, 201410 yr by chalky

Week 1 - As it is now

 

Week 2 -100 % Oldies

 

Week 3 - Modern

 

Week 4 - 'One of the other ones'!

 

There ya go Ady - Good luck!

 

Len  

Edited September 5, 201410 yr by LEN

Anyone who thinks there is going to be anything remotely like a "Quadrophenia" effect following this film is living in Dreamland I'm afraid. The film won't be that popular amongst the general public and music that is almost 50 years old isn't going to inspire youngsters to go to a do every week.

 

Even if it did a little bit, they'd probably be put off my sneering old gits who take a dim view of having a different slant on things

You're right Roddy.

Yes, especially any Pied Piper tunes on a 45.

There's already a wealth of great diverse (dance)tunes such as Little Willie John, Home At Last, or Spencer Wiggins, Breaking Point.

Week 1 - As it is now

 

Week 2 -100 % Oldies

 

Week 3 - Modern

 

Week 4 - 'One of the other ones'!

 

There ya go Ady - Good luck!

 

Len  

DONT FORGET THE FRIDAY NIGHT OLDIES....ONCE A MONTH....................

Beyond all the 'oldies' and other pseudo-genres, think of all those new releases that could be slipped in!

Beyond all the 'oldies' and other pseudo-genres, think of all those new releases that could be slipped in!

 

Looks like it's a Thursday as well Ady!  

 

Len  

Week 1 - As it is now

 

Week 2 -100 % Oldies

 

Week 3 - Modern

 

Week 4 - 'One of the other ones'!

 

There ya go Ady - Good luck!

 

Len  

Week 5 - Back to the drawing board

Week 5 - Back to the drawing board

 

I should have added 'and repeat', meaning it to be a monthly pattern   

 

When is this all kicking off?   

 

Len  

Edited September 5, 201410 yr by LEN

What do you mean not enough new discoveries??? Have you not heard Happy by Pharrell??.........Dont say it, I'll get my coat 

Edited September 5, 201410 yr by TheBigO

What's planned?

Surely there's already too many events.

 

All change mate - Everyone's packing up and just going to The 100 Club (Together we are stronger an' all that)

 

......Except for Terry  

 

Len  

Edited September 5, 201410 yr by LEN

All change mate - Everyone's packing up and just going to The 100 Club (Together we are stronger an' all that)

 

......Except for Terry  

 

Len  

Nah, only Damon Fox

Nah, only Damon Fox

 

Very quick  

 

Right, I'm off to enjoy the weekend.

 

Len  

 

P.s - TUNE! (btw)

Its a shame but within any community there are always the "moaners" these are people who contribute very little to the scene and we should ignore them but we dont!!! There are way too many records I have to thank you for which now I couldn't live without but I will only name three

carla thomas never stop loving you

aretha franklin so soon

etta james cant shake it

THANK YOU PLEASE DON'T STOP

How many times do I have to say this?................THERE ISN'T ENOUGH NEW MUSIC TO SUSTAIN A WEEKLY NIGHTER!

 

Even the all time northern classics are "new" to an 18 year old just discovering soul music or who is frustrated by what is offered to them by the popular mainstream ... a  weekly allnighter could very easily sustain itself with an artful mix of all time classics, RnB , modern (70s) , latin, funky tunes, contemporary releases and the few new discoveries that are still turning up.  It would need skilful DJs with record collections that can cover all the above bases and who have a completely open minded approach to the broad church that is rare soul music .

 

The target crowd for such a weekly event wouldn't be the "elders" on the scene who have already made up their minds either that the scene has nothing new to offer or still wouldn't go to a weekly event if a tsunami of new music was still being discovered.  One suspects Ady is thinking this way by the very fact that he is bringing in other trusted people to offer a fresh perspective.

Edited September 9, 201410 yr by sunnysoul

We will never see a weekly all-nighter for several reasons.  The two main ones are there aren't enough regular nighter people young or old and you wouldn't get the support of the dozens of promoters around the country which you would need for it to succeed.  Musically it can be done with some thought and imagination.

Was in a store today and they were playing the new Ace CD of Brent/Time/Shad recordings...the unissued tracks on that will prick a few ears up!

Loving the Jeannie Trevor and June Jackson tunes...could've been recorded with the 100 Club in mind!

Was in a store today and they were playing the new Ace CD of Brent/Time/Shad recordings...the unissued tracks on that will prick a few ears up!

Loving the Jeannie Trevor and June Jackson tunes...could've been recorded with the 100 Club in mind!

 

Cracking CD, had a couple of listens in the wagon this week.  Not to everyone's taste and certainly not to those who just like their classics but there is plenty in there to like.  The Jeannie Trevor (think it is that one) reminds me of Ady's Gerri Grainger acetate.

Cracking CD... The Jeannie Trevor (think it is that one) reminds me of Ady's Gerri Grainger acetate.

 

Exactly what I thought

Gerri Granger has reached cult-status over the years and Jeannie Trevor deserves to be right there alongside her...but have musical tastes changed away from the big production stuff nowadays (more's the pity)?

I counted 73 events the other weekend (just on here btw), and all those events are mainly aiming at the same what 4000 people? So of course a weekly All-nighter would be impossible.

 

But to quote Sunnysoul…“Thinking outside the square”….It could be done if marketed outside of this Scene. Things would no doubt change dramatically, but to pull aprox 300 people to a Club in Oxford Street, London wouldn’t be difficult.

 

I supported a friend at Groove On at Milton Keynes Sat night, this was a different crowd to ‘us lot’, they were mainly from Milton Keynes, Luton, and London, but a pretty cool lot I thought (who would welcome 60’s Newies in with what they like to dance to) Over 300 ‘untapped’ people just at one event.

 

A weekly 100 Club is not going to happen (we know that) Also advertising to ‘outsiders’ goes against the grain ref the Scene as we know it, but to do so is better than it slowly dwindling away, and our music being forgotten.

 

All the best,

 

Len  

Edited September 8, 201410 yr by LEN

You're right Roddy.

Yes, especially any Pied Piper tunes on a 45.

There's already a wealth of great diverse (dance)tunes such as Little Willie John, Home At Last, or Spencer Wiggins, Breaking Point.

As much as I like this tune ,it is surely Blues,it doesn't fit in, does it ?

 

Bazza     

Edited September 9, 201410 yr by Bazza

As much as I like this tune ,it is surely Blues,it doesn't fit in, does it ?

Different versions. I refer to the previously unreleased version played by Ady and later released on KENT SELECT.

Edited September 9, 201410 yr by johnmcc

 

 

Oh ,ok ,not heard it 

 

Bazza  

So on the sixties newies >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes more and often.

On the on the other stuff maybe in another topic ?

 

The main thin that keeps me traveling is to here new tunes from lots of genres (but I don't want funk and disco at the 100)

 

Northern is a broad church but WE need to preserve what its about it has always bee a 6T'S scene to me !   

All I can say, your missing out on some great uptempo funky dancers, but hey ho that's your choice

Your latest Dore comp is totally appreciated on this side of the water Ady, the June Jackson in particular is off the scale great.

 

And for anyone lucky enough to be over here in NYC this weekend Honky and I combined will be playing a stack of never before heard one-off soul acetates over the course of Saturday night's Dig Deeper, still plenty out there to discover.

Exactly what I thought

Gerri Granger has reached cult-status over the years and Jeannie Trevor deserves to be right there alongside her...but have musical tastes changed away from the big production stuff nowadays (more's the pity)?

 

I'm really getting back into that stuff at the moment.

The reality is the majority want to hear the same old tunes that have filled the dance floors a thousand times , boring I know but its almost like some people want a predictable sound track for a night out .

 

Personally I get more excited at hearing one new track or something I don't know over any amount of oldies .

 

Same with dancing I'll stay on the floor for something I don't know as long as it has the beat .

 

Keep on with what you are doing Ady , I'm still amazed at some of the new gems that pop up .