It's not often I want to buy a northern classic but when I do, I'm  usually out of my depth price-wise and most often, I'll leave well alone.

BUT..... I do fancy a copy of this record. I took a look on Popsike to see that in it's original form it sells for way more than I can afford, but I then noticed what was advertised as a "legit re-issue" that had been sold previously over the years.

Could some kind person confirm this for me please. With so many look-a-like boots and so many gullible buyers (that includes myself) It seems like this one and the Kent re-issue are my only hopes of affording one but if it's just a plain old boot, then I'll exclude it.

 

Any help appreciated

 

Teresa

It was reissued, whether by Dore or not is highly debatable with the also hard to find Swanns on the B side Nitty Gritty City. I'd consider the Kent version with the unreleased Instrumental version of GWTWIML a far more attractive proposition.

Thank You Dave!  

Thank You Dave!  

My pleasure, I collect Dore, and have my original Rita and the Tiaras signed by Rita Graham

You are indeed a lucky Man Dave! I don't know anything about the label and it's history but I do know it's an attractive lookin' thing  

There is a UK release on Destiny which I am sure is a legitimate re-issue, shouldn't cost more than £20 

Morning Martyn,

 

Both Myself and Him Indoors have had a Destiny copy and both have this awful "swooshing" sound running through the first 30 secs of the song. Possibly a really unlucky coincidence but just can't listen to it and never bothered replacing it.

I think that lookalike at the top was done by Joe Boy Records so it's totally legit as they had the rights at the time.

p.s. I've got a destiny demo and issue and can't hear any problems

Get the Kent 45 the instrumental is brilliant

Thanks Both Tim & Pete and all that have replied.

Definitely a really unlucky coincidence as I presume you've come across a few of the Destiny copies over the years Pete. The instrumental has drawn me, so I'll buy the Kent, still look out for the Dore re-issue as it's pretty and legit also and I'll try to clean up the destiny one to see of it can play any better too!

 

Merci

The Dore look alike legit reissue plays superb and you do feel a step nearer to the h grail ha

The Kent 45 release plays the full unedited 3:08 version which contains one extra verse.

 

The lookalike Dore repro 45 at the top of the thread plays the same edited 2:07-ish version which appeared on the original Dore 45, right?

The Dore look alike legit reissue plays superb and you do feel a step nearer to the h grail ha

I will no doubt be shouting up for one of these in "wants" also  

There`s also a great version by Gloria Jones & the Tiara`s, Previously unnissued and supposedly the original cut.

And on the clip is the cracking flip side!

 

https://youtu.be/ammfqmO_KrA

Edited October 28, 201411 yr by Guest

I think that lookalike at the top was done by Joe Boy Records so it's totally legit as they had the rights at the time.

p.s. I've got a destiny demo and issue and can't hear any problems

 

Joe Boy released it on a "JoeBoy" picture sleeve & was the full length / extra verse version. 

 

Would they have re-issued it on Dore as well ? I guess a lot of people prefer a US lookalike & it was the original short version.  

Hmm possibly answered my own question

There`s also a great version by Gloria Jones & the Tiara`s, Previously unnissued and supposedly the original cut.

And on the clip is the cracking flip side!

 

https://youtu.be/ammfqmO_KrA

You know Steve, I was playing this on JMs site yesterday and have it in the shopping trolley on ebay right this minute

£2 cheaper and with free shipping innit  

Who was it a big tune for back in the day - Searling? Presumably c. 1978 as the Destiny reissue is from 1979

Yes sir Richard vel vettes cu 79

It's not often I want to buy a northern classic but when I do, I'm  usually out of my depth price-wise and most often, I'll leave well alone.

BUT..... I do fancy a copy of this record. I took a look on Popsike to see that in it's original form it sells for way more than I can afford, but I then noticed what was advertised as a "legit re-issue" that had been sold previously over the years.

rita.jpg

Could some kind person confirm this for me please. With so many look-a-like boots and so many gullible buyers (that includes myself) It seems like this one and the Kent re-issue are my only hopes of affording one but if it's just a plain old boot, then I'll exclude it.

 

Any help appreciated

 

Teresa

 

 

it would be the kent release everytime for me, no brainer really. at least you can trust that Ady will have been through all the legit channels

Edited October 28, 201411 yr by Andy Kempster

It's not often I want to buy a northern classic but when I do, I'm  usually out of my depth price-wise and most often, I'll leave well alone.

BUT..... I do fancy a copy of this record. I took a look on Popsike to see that in it's original form it sells for way more than I can afford, but I then noticed what was advertised as a "legit re-issue" that had been sold previously over the years.

rita.jpg

Could some kind person confirm this for me please. With so many look-a-like boots and so many gullible buyers (that includes myself) It seems like this one and the Kent re-issue are my only hopes of affording one but if it's just a plain old boot, then I'll exclude it.

 

Any help appreciated

 

Teresa

Bootleg, Pressing, Look-a-like, Legal Reissue or whatever is all the same, none of them are an Original!

Also if Secret Stash records can get new great quality 45rpm records manufactured and marketed and sell them for $5 each, why are all these other remakes so expensive?

Edited October 28, 201411 yr by Guest

I have the Gloria Jones version which i actually prefere and wish this would get played out more than the Rita.The Soul purpose release posted by Steve Lane is the fist vinyl release of it so perfectly ok to spin out.

The Kent re-issue blows all the other versions out of the water, even the original. The destiny release from the 80's always sounded awful, no fidelity whatsoever. 

Dave

Got an absolutely wrecked original so bought the Destiny and the Jay Boy over the years both absolutely fine to play out and when asked over the years there was that DaDa moment as I pulled my knackered one out of the back of the box, those days are gone and I don't carry it around anymore but would never sell it anyway despite John Hillel badgering me for the last 15 years!

Got an absolutely wrecked original so bought the Destiny and the Jay Boy over the years both absolutely fine to play out and when asked over the years there was that DaDa moment as I pulled my knackered one out of the back of the box, those days are gone and I don't carry it around anymore but would never sell it anyway despite John Hillel badgering me for the last 15 years!

 

Well that's an interesting spin on the eternal OVO debate: buy an unplayable copy of a record for pennies and use it to justify playing reissues.

Readers! Can't afford to play expensive records but still wanna be a DJ? Why not just photocopy the label of your wrecked originals and stick em on boots

Thanks Godzilla,that'll teach me .

Well that's an interesting spin on the eternal OVO debate: buy an unplayable copy of a record for pennies and use it to justify playing reissues.

Readers! Can't afford to play expensive records but still wanna be a DJ? Why not just photocopy the label of your wrecked originals and stick em on boots

This has been done for years though, by top DJ's as well (the playing of boots because they own an original that doesn't play). The one I heard about ages ago was Lady In Green.

 

I (half-jokingly) suggested that this practice would make it OK from an OVO perspective to record your originals into digital format, play your set off your laptop and hold up each record as it was being played.

Rita told us that she never met the Tiaras and she just sang the vocals over the prerecorded backing track.

Was this track prepared for Gloria originally ? 

Rita told us that she never met the Tiaras and she just sang the vocals over the prerecorded backing track.

Was this track prepared for Gloria originally ? 

Copyright of this recording is owned by Lou Barreto who had the following information about the recording:

The Gloria Jones cut "Gone with the wind is my Love" was recorded prior to the Rita version..."Rita used the same tracks as on the Gloria version......the Tiaras did the backup vocals with Gloria.....Hence, The Gloria 8 track recording is the same track that Rita recorded on.....The time frame was the same.....same year, about a month apart.....we had to replace Gloria with Rita within a 4/ 6 week period....we were in the studio with Gloria Jones of "Tainted Love" for almost 3 hours until we got the sound out of her that we wanted, from line to line..........The sound we got out of Gloria was a new sound, a new Gloria Jones.....it did not sound like any of Gloria's other songs such as Tainted Love. The reason why the Gloria recording was never released was " due to disagreements with Gloria's management group."

(by Lou Barreto)

Edited November 8, 201410 yr by Guest

I thought the Dore came out as only in the Cd package limited edition thing.

I thought the Dore came out as only in the Cd package limited edition thing.

You mean the repro?

thanks Steve for the Lou Baretto information, clears a lot of questioning and puts a timeframe to things. By the way Godzilla, you'd just have stopped playing the record altogether when it got knackered instead of sourcing a legitimate reissue that didn't hiss, crackle and pop? You can't deny me a little pleasure in my dotage.

My pleasure, I collect Dore, and have my original Rita and the Tiaras signed by Rita Graham

Im impressed!

This record defines WC for me, although it was covered up in my day.

Superbs have got it all for me on this label.

I know I'm in the minority, but it's never done it for me...

You mean the repro?

No a limited edition of the single with the double Dore CD.... can't remember the b side but sure it was another sing and not just the Rita b.

Edited November 9, 201410 yr by Prophonics 2029

Im impressed!

This record defines WC for me, although it was covered up in my day.

Superbs have got it all for me on this label.

I'm a big Bobby Swayne fan, the Superbs were an amazing outfit.  Check out Bee Gee Kay's version of I Only Cry Once A Day, there's four versions on Dore as far as I can remember, Lynn Loring, Tracey Williams and The Puffs being the others, the only two worth listening to are The Puffs, and the much superior Bee Gee Kay. Bought my copy of GWTW in 1981 on a quick business trip to Los Angeles from Japan for $10, along with other Dore bits.

No a limited edition of the single with the double Dore CD.... can't remember the b side but sure it was another sing and not just the Rita b.

 

It had the Swans "Nitty Gritty City" on the flip.

It had the Swans "Nitty Gritty City" on the flip.

Beat me to it Chalks...................I should have twigged as I have a thread on that track

Thanks Godzilla,that'll teach me .

 

 

By the way Godzilla, you'd just have stopped playing the record altogether when it got knackered instead of sourcing a legitimate reissue that didn't hiss, crackle and pop? You can't deny me a little pleasure in my dotage.

 

Hey Ponty - sorry if I struck a nerve mate.

To be honest what you play and where is absolutely nothing to do with me, so fill your boots. Although I broadly support the OVO approach in terms of Northern Soul type events, I also really enjoy some of the anomalies and contradictions it throws up. The sort of self-talk used by those who support the principle of OVO yet want to rationalise their playing of re-releases is a wonderful example of that.

playing a boot but carrying a knackered original to justify it is in all seriousness one of the most demented things I've ever heard of.

you just couldn't make that shit up...how all the crap we fill the world with just serves to make simple things complicated, great things ridiculous...

I'm a big Bobby Swayne fan, the Superbs were an amazing outfit. Check out Bee Gee Kay's version of I Only Cry Once A Day, there's four versions on Dore as far as I can remember, Lynn Loring, Tracey Williams and The Puffs being the others, the only two worth listening to are The Puffs, and the much superior Bee Gee Kay. Bought my copy of GWTW in 1981 on a quick business trip to Los Angeles from Japan for $10, along with other Dore bits.

the Bee Gee Kay is a swinging country version of the song.

the Bee Gee Kay is a swinging country version of the song.

But it's better than The Puffs

No way.........not a Northern track.

The Puffs is pure Northern Soul.

Edited November 10, 201410 yr by Prophonics 2029

Morning Martyn,

 

Both Myself and Him Indoors have had a Destiny copy and both have this awful "swooshing" sound running through the first 30 secs of the song. Possibly a really unlucky coincidence but just can't listen to it and never bothered replacing it.

 

Mine has that sound too.  However the  bonus of the Destiny release is flip it over and you've got the amazing "Wild Times"  instrumental

I always thought the Destiny was off centre or the dub was cut from a single..