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Most people on the soul scene would qualify for a saga holiday..maybe weekenders should introduce afternoon bingo & daily excursions  :lol: paul

There's certainly no shortage of people doing the Hokey Cokey at nighters nowadays.

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Guest Dave Turner

Heard the ad and reminded me of what a special record this was (and still is) for me.

 

Young pup about 15, no real identity with any kind of music and just knew most of what I was hearing under the bedsheets with an old tranny (or should I rephrase that) wasn't for me. One night a record came on that had the "WTF is this" effect, god it was the best thing I'd ever heard but didn't catch what it was. Two weeks later it came on again, volume up full blast, bedsheets & blankets went flying and me jumping all round the room.

 

Dad - "Shut that f**kin' noise up up there"

 

A few weeks later, got a job in the warehouse at Tescos and lad I was working with saying he'd got loads of soul records. 

 

Bet you ain't got Archie Bell & the Drells says I

 

"Yup and loads more, come round our place and have a listen"

 

Archie Bell, Philip Mitchell, Billy Butler etc etc etc ... needless to say I was round his house most nights after that.

 

So that where it all started for me and I thank Archie Bell's "Here I Go Again" for giving me something that struck a chord and gave me my life long musical identity.

 

Archie Bell, you can go again and again and again for me.

 

Thank you for reading my life story  :D

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Great track. Philly credits but methinks Mr Terry lurking in the background, and for a record recorded 16.05.69 I suspect this was one of Mike Terry's last contributions via the sax.

 

Paul

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Heard the ad and reminded me of what a special record this was (and still is) for me.

 

Young pup about 15, no real identity with any kind of music and just knew most of what I was hearing under the bedsheets with an old tranny (or should I rephrase that) wasn't for me. One night a record came on that had the "WTF is this" effect, god it was the best thing I'd ever heard but didn't catch what it was. Two weeks later it came on again, volume up full blast, bedsheets & blankets went flying and me jumping all round the room.

 

Dad - "Shut that f**kin' noise up up there"

 

A few weeks later, got a job in the warehouse at Tescos and lad I was working with saying he'd got loads of soul records. 

 

Bet you ain't got Archie Bell & the Drells says I

 

"Yup and loads more, come round our place and have a listen"

 

Archie Bell, Philip Mitchell, Billy Butler etc etc etc ... needless to say I was round his house most nights after that.

 

So that where it all started for me and I thank Archie Bell's "Here I Go Again" for giving me something that struck a chord and gave me my life long musical identity.

 

Archie Bell, you can go again and again and again for me.

 

Thank you for reading my life story  :D

Similar story for me Dave.  In fact only this morning I upgraded my battered UK Atlantic copy for a mint US Atlantic demo.... just to stare at really :D

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Great track. Philly credits but methinks Mr Terry lurking in the background, and for a record recorded 16.05.69 I suspect this was one of Mike Terry's last contributions via the sax.

 

Paul

 

As opposed to Philadelphia saxophonist (later Gamble and Huff's horn contractor) Sam Reed? Where's your evidence that the credits are wrong?

Here's what's listed on the Atlantic sessions:

 

Archie Bell And The Drells With Leon Huff/Thom Bell's Orchestra

Bobby Martin (vibraphone) Leon Huff (piano, arranger) Thom Bell (organ, arranger) Roland Chambers, Norman Harris (guitar) Ronnie Baker (electric bass) Earl Young (drums) Archie Bell (vocals) Don Renaldo and his string section, Sam Reed and his horn section

 

Philadelphia, PA, May 16, 1969

17051            Girl You're Too Young          Atlantic 2644, SD 8226

17052            Here I Go Again         Atlantic 2693, SD 8226

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As opposed to Philadelphia saxophonist (later Gamble and Huff's horn contractor) Sam Reed? Where's your evidence that the credits are wrong?

Here's what's listed on the Atlantic sessions:

 

Archie Bell And The Drells With Leon Huff/Thom Bell's Orchestra

Bobby Martin (vibraphone) Leon Huff (piano, arranger) Thom Bell (organ, arranger) Roland Chambers, Norman Harris (guitar) Ronnie Baker (electric bass) Earl Young (drums) Archie Bell (vocals) Don Renaldo and his string section, Sam Reed and his horn section

 

Philadelphia, PA, May 16, 1969

17051            Girl You're Too Young          Atlantic 2644, SD 8226

17052            Here I Go Again         Atlantic 2693, SD 8226

Who said the credits are wrong?

 

I wrote METHINKS Mike terry is lurking there on listening to it - if not MT then Sam Reed (apt name) could double as a MT impersonator!

 

Paul

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Who said the credits are wrong?

 

I wrote METHINKS Mike terry is lurking there on listening to it - if not MT then Sam Reed (apt name) could double as a MT impersonator!

 

Paul

 

 

So not any kind of statement of fact to the effect that Mike Terry was involved then?

Gotcha. Ta :thumbsup:

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Is it the original ,it don't sound quite right to me ?

 

Bazza   :hatsoff2:

Maybe it is not the original , aren't a lot of these tv ads sound tracks re-recorded to sound like the original which cannot be used for licencing/ budget reasons that was the reason Marvins   I heard It Through The Grapevine was not the original used in the famous Levis ad.

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Maybe it is not the original , aren't a lot of these tv ads sound tracks re-recorded to sound like the original which cannot be used for licencing/ budget reasons that was the reason Marvins   I heard It Through The Grapevine was not the original used in the famous Levis ad.

Just been on ,I don't think its them at all ,just a soundalike 

 

Bazza   :hatsoff2:

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Just been on ,I don't think its them at all ,just a soundalike 

 

Bazza   :hatsoff2:

 

I think it's Archie and the boys. Those wahoooooo, wahoo backing vocals make my hair stand on end. Sometimes these tracks are edited and certainly compressed for TV and will not sound how you remember them in a big hall in the 70's. Mind you, that Gil Scot Heron track that has been used recently is definitely not him.

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I think it's Archie and the boys. Those wahoooooo, wahoo backing vocals make my hair stand on end. Sometimes these tracks are edited and certainly compressed for TV and will not sound how you remember them in a big hall in the 70's. Mind you, that Gil Scot Heron track that has been used recently is definitely not him.

It might be ,if its a soundalike its very good ,but not quite right ,can't put my finger on what's wrong with it 

 

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I think it's Archie and the boys. Those wahoooooo, wahoo backing vocals make my hair stand on end. Sometimes these tracks are edited and certainly compressed for TV and will not sound how you remember them in a big hall in the 70's. Mind you, that Gil Scot Heron track that has been used recently is definitely not him.

Agreed Jordi. Definitely original vocals. Archie had a pretty unique voice. As for the instrumentation, that guitar riff just seems a little crisper on the ad? 

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Agreed Jordi. Definitely original vocals. Archie had a pretty unique voice. As for the instrumentation, that guitar riff just seems a little crisper on the ad? 

Probably bought up in the mix

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As opposed to Philadelphia saxophonist (later Gamble and Huff's horn contractor) Sam Reed? Where's your evidence that the credits are wrong?

Here's what's listed on the Atlantic sessions:

Archie Bell And The Drells With Leon Huff/Thom Bell's Orchestra

Bobby Martin (vibraphone) Leon Huff (piano, arranger) Thom Bell (organ, arranger) Roland Chambers, Norman Harris (guitar) Ronnie Baker (electric bass) Earl Young (drums) Archie Bell (vocals) Don Renaldo and his string section, Sam Reed and his horn section

Philadelphia, PA, May 16, 1969

17051 Girl You're Too Young Atlantic 2644, SD 8226

17052 Here I Go Again Atlantic 2693, SD 8226

Godz, as a matter of interest where do you find this type of information?

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Heard the ad and reminded me of what a special record this was (and still is) for me.

 

Young pup about 15, no real identity with any kind of music and just knew most of what I was hearing under the bedsheets with an old tranny (or should I rephrase that) wasn't for me. One night a record came on that had the "WTF is this" effect, god it was the best thing I'd ever heard but didn't catch what it was. Two weeks later it came on again, volume up full blast, bedsheets & blankets went flying and me jumping all round the room.

 

Dad - "Shut that f**kin' noise up up there"

 

A few weeks later, got a job in the warehouse at Tescos and lad I was working with saying he'd got loads of soul records. 

 

Bet you ain't got Archie Bell & the Drells says I

 

"Yup and loads more, come round our place and have a listen"

 

Archie Bell, Philip Mitchell, Billy Butler etc etc etc ... needless to say I was round his house most nights after that.

 

So that where it all started for me and I thank Archie Bell's "Here I Go Again" for giving me something that struck a chord and gave me my life long musical identity.

 

Archie Bell, you can go again and again and again for me.

 

Thank you for reading my life story  :D

The catalyst for me as well. Heard it at the youth club, the Centre in Hinckley, and was blown away. Still ranks as one of my all time top 5 records.

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Maybe it is not the original , aren't a lot of these tv ads sound tracks re-recorded to sound like the original which cannot be used for licencing/ budget reasons that was the reason Marvins   I heard It Through The Grapevine was not the original used in the famous Levis ad.

Exactly. If you walk round diy stores for long enough there are numerous covers of circular black music blasting out, and that is how they get round it.

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