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Selling records with poor overall grading on condition!!


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I am often interested in records that are put up for sale, but can't buy them because they are not individually graded.

I often I see  sales lists with a vague "all records are Vg+ or better".

I have seen records priced in the hundreds of pounds, with this poor grading.   I don't know how sellers expect people to spend that kind of money, without really knowing what they are going to get! 

  It would be silly to buy a car from a garage, that said about condition  "all cars are vg or better".

 I would like to see records, over a certain price, individually graded on condition!

Anybody else bothered about this?

 

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How bothered I am depends on the price of the record. There seems to be a lightbulb shortage north of Watford anyway. If it ain’t m- and it’s over 100 quid I don’t really want it.....unless it’s dirt cheap of course.

generally I don’t buy off people I don’t know  it’s just easier 

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I’ve been caught out a few times, I got done once by a dealer who used to sell a lot of records on this forum. This was before the forum feedback system. The beauty of the feedback system is that a repeatedly dodgy seller won’t get away with it for long. 

These days, I try to resist buying without hearing a sound file first. My priority is how good a 45 sounds, rather than how it looks. After all, I buy them to listen to them.

I’d rather pay a little bit over the odds from a dealer I can trust, rather than take a chance on a record that has only been ‘visually graded’ by a seller I don’t know. I can’t claim to have bought from every well known record dealer out there, I’m sure there are plenty, but I can certainly vouch for Pete Smith and Darren Brown.

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The thing is with chanchers looking to buy mint records for bugger all PhilT (I do agree with you) but you don't have to deal with them. As a buyer to then return record & refund to someone you  don't trust is a balls ache. 

Also for me a soundfile isn't important as I don't expect to be buying a record that doesn't play through. 

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I don't sell much at all on here anymore but, when I sell I put a description of the label, and grade the record itself, adding in audio condition. Simple. If folks can't be bothered to grade properly give them a wide berth. What's the point in trying to pull the wool on people for a few quid.?

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1 hour ago, John Siret said:

The thing is with chanchers looking to buy mint records for bugger all PhilT (I do agree with you) but you don't have to deal with them. As a buyer to then return record & refund to someone you  don't trust is a balls ache. 

Also for me a soundfile isn't important as I don't expect to be buying a record that doesn't play through. 

I hear you. The point I was trying to make was that it can be a ball ache selling records these days too. 

The whole 'grading' thing is inherently subjective of course so you're always going to find variations; they shouldn't be miles apart though should they - hence the emergence of the SS system. All that's required really is a bit of integrity and half an idea. Takes seconds to send someone a couple of pics or whatever but I'm always very clear when I'm selling stuff that anyone can send a 45 back if they're not happy, at my expense.

It's tough to legislate for idiots though, buyers or sellers. Personally, I just don't deal with them again, respond to 'wants' posts or whatever. Life's too short.

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16 minutes ago, Winsford Soul said:

I was once offered a Al Williams £1000 cheaper than the going rate because of the condition.  Turned it down, it looked like it had been a frisbee on the M6 for 6 months but surprisingly played very good,  as much as I wanted to,  I just couldn't do it. 

Steve 

That couldn't have been my old copy then, Steve.. As mine was warped, chipped, and had 3 bits of old records glued to the back to hold it all together !! Played perfectly though.. Honest !! 👍

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35 minutes ago, Winsford Soul said:

Good man your the 1st person that's ever listened to me when I've played them a record.  🤣

Steve 

Yes m8 bought 2 👍 first one described as n/m was and second for a friend who ad a listen and loved it said n/m and the above came😖 I gave my m8 the first n/m one as it was only a fiver 👍 great shout steve cheers.atb m8 baz

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On 09/11/2018 at 15:11, baz1 said:

Had a cheapie arrive tother day 😖 n/m it said😂😂😂 bubbled label and edge chip with some noticeable scratches😖good job it was only a fiver or it would av been goin back. Baz

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😡 wow, That’s someone taking the p...s

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1 hour ago, pjf said:

I’m afraid you’ll miss out on a lot of great Vinyl if that’s the case

Do tell me what these titles are you think I am missing out on or decent copies don't come to market ? 

I guess you are missing the point. A deal has been agreed on M- graded record I am sent a vg graded record is that clear now. 

 

 

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