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Royal Esquires or Clara Hardy or is this just a bit of Spin.

Paid £90 = postage for a Billy Arnel of Ebay, it had no picture, so I compalined and got a refund.

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a certain well known dj / dealer has recently shelled out the thick end of 2 grand for a boot of the salvadors

He could have had mine for fifty

I would say that the two dearerst boots are the Yum Yums lookalike from 1975 on ABC-Paramount, or any of the coloured vinyl 'demos' of I Never Knew by Eddie Foster.

John Hillyard in LA once told me that all the Ray Agee "I'm loosing again" Soultown are Boots !

done for the other side for the USA Blues market.

Never came out on anything else ?

Whats that worth now ??

Rob

John Hillyard in LA once told me that all the Ray Agee "I'm loosing again" Soultown are Boots !

done for the other side for the USA Blues market.

Never came out on anything else ?

Whats that worth now ??

Rob

No more than £20 if it's a boot. But I'll make you a happy man and offer you £30 for your honesty Rob!

I know it's not the dearest pressing, but a Soul Bros Inc - Pyramid went for £80 about three years ago. Considering it looks nothing like the original, it's crap quality and not even the full song (cuts off before the end and you can hear Ruby Sherry singing her heart out at the last knockings :thumbsup: ) I think that's a lot of money for that record.

I would say that the two dearerst boots are the Yum Yums lookalike from 1975 on ABC-Paramount, or any of the coloured vinyl 'demos' of I Never Knew by Eddie Foster.

Yes,It was a Yum Yums, lookalike boot that I sold for £150, 5 years ago.

Kev :thumbsup:

Hi Ian, what's Ruby got to do with it, is that the b-side.

No no that's just it, Phonetics - Michigan Move is the B side. But as Pyramid cuts out (on the A) just before the end, you can clearly hear a couple of seconds of feminine ingenuity! :thumbsup:

A couple of years ago i paid £90 for a Howard Guyton - I watched you slowly slip away reissue.

:-(

A couple of years ago i paid £90 for a Howard Guyton - I watched you slowly slip away reissue.

:-(

Thinking it was an original surely?

Yes,It was a Yum Yums, lookalike boot that I sold for £150, 5 years ago.

Kev :thumbsup:

Shuuush,IT WAS OF A WELL KNOWN DJ :D

A couple of years ago i paid £90 for a Howard Guyton - I watched you slowly slip away reissue.

:-(

And it was only when you sold it me that the terrible truth came out :thumbsup:

The question should really be "what's the rarest bootleg pressing" because these freaks who pay silly money for pressings on ebay are just mugs. People seem so shit-scared to actually put their own prices on things nowadays without consulting a price guide or a web site. John & Weirdest bootleg is worth £30 tops, Yum Yums the same.

Thinking it was an original surely?

Yep, as Pete said, I thought I had the original.

I would think the rarest ones are these coloured vinyl Eddie foster boots, especially the 4 coloured vinyl ones of which there was only meant to be 4 copys ever made, i have been offered £180 for a blue vinyl copy :thumbsup: .

Also the 4 coloured vinyl copy bootleg of Manifesto must be pretty hard to find now. Only ever seen 1 copy and belongs to Stu Bower.

Ian.

I would think the rarest ones are these coloured vinyl Eddie foster boots, especially the 4 coloured vinyl ones of which there was only meant to be 4 copys ever made, i have been offered £180 for a blue vinyl copy :rolleyes: .

Also the 4 coloured vinyl copy bootleg of Manifesto must be pretty hard to find now. Only ever seen 1 copy and belongs to Stu Bower.

Ian.

Its a pity the same cant be said about the Casino Classics ones on coloured vinyl. I've a few of those.

Actually they could be considered as the most expensive boots/reissues in my house. Because if they hadnt help capture my imagination about Northern Soul, I may have been saved from this life of beans on taost to pay for a copy of the final Romark track to complete the set ;-)

Lost summer love - Stone soul lovin - A touch of velvet..........ended up costing me a small fortune.

The question should really be "what's the rarest bootleg pressing" because these freaks who pay silly money for pressings on ebay are just mugs. People seem so shit-scared to actually put their own prices on things nowadays without consulting a price guide or a web site. John & Weirdest bootleg is worth £30 tops, Yum Yums the same.

I have always been lead to believe that the Prince Philip Mitchell b/w Bennie Troy of Silver Top was a hard one.

Is this thread meant to be, the most paid for a boot knowing it's a boot or the most paid not knowing it's a boot? :unsure:

I think it's about the most paid for a boot knowing it's a boot - or what is the most expensive boot out there.

I can't believe noone wants my boot of the Salvadors! Maybe it's not a boot!

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I once paid $1000 for John and The Weirdest boot leg! Came from Arizona. sad.gif

Managed to get my refund though so I don't know if this counts. :unsure:

We know a nice guy who in recent years paid over £2000 for John and Weirdest, which is dreadful.. a mate who shelled out £300 for Gwen and Ray.

A genuine advertised bootleg: the Yum Yums went for £125-ish, often listed @ £100 and sells, can't think off-hand of a more expensive one but JOhn & The Weirest sits in the same bracket.

i am beginning to see the benefit of never paying more than £150 for a record, and thats a lot for some, i have paid £30 for a johnny my boy boot, but was being greedy as i wanted to sell it on, as i had one already and didnt look properly! that will teach me, have been accused of selling boots when they werent ,a tactic to beware off,if selling to rogues at niters when u r drunk!!!!!!!!

Depending on the day Tomangoes / Billy Arnell / Gwen Owens can all match a price of £50 or so. Amazing really - Wish I'd kept all mine that I bought when I were a kid in the mid 80s!

Rich

We know a nice guy who in recent years paid over £2000 for John and Weirdest, which is dreadful.. a mate who shelled out £300 for Gwen and Ray.

A genuine advertised bootleg: the Yum Yums went for £125-ish, often listed @ £100 and sells, can't think off-hand of a more expensive one but JOhn & The Weirest sits in the same bracket.

If anyone would like my Yum Yums and John & The Weirdest bootlegs at £50 each I will bite their hand off.

Once sold one of those White Fairmount boots

of Frankie Beverley Bacause of my heart for £90

And it was advertised as a boot

Where are all these people when I sell bootlegs and pressings??? Most I've ever got was £32 for Ann Sexton

Once sold one of those White Fairmount boots

of Frankie Beverley Bacause of my heart for £90

And it was advertised as a boot

bought mine for a fiver at the dome in london about 6 yrs ago....bargain

i heard that someone paid £100 for a four tracks,like my love for you,mandingo boot ! bought mine for £6

Royal Esquires or Clara Hardy or is this just a bit of Spin.

How do you spot a boot of Clara Hardy?

One of the books says it goes for approx £1500 (sorry haven't got the other book) & 2 have just recently gone for £200 each on e-bay. As far as I could see they were both originals.

Thanks

If anyone would like my Yum Yums and John & The Weirdest bootlegs at £50 each I will bite their hand off.

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i paid £100 for a yum yums boot from Ebay a few years ago!

Royal Esquires or Clara Hardy or is this just a bit of Spin.

Paid £90 = postage for a Billy Arnel of Ebay, it had no picture, so I compalined and got a refund.

Royal Esquires has never been booted. Why did you pay £90 for what was bound to be a boot, there was no way you were going to get a Billy Arnell for that price, that should have told you instantly what you were bidding on, and if that didn't start bells ringing then you can always ask some basic questions to clarify what you are bidding on. Buyer beware always comes to mind when doing anything on ebay.

Sold a boot of The High Keyes 'Living A Lie' on eBay for £56 a few years ago - clearly marked up as not being an original copy and with a scan of the label too.

Also sold a boot of the Invitations 'What's Wrong With Me Baby' for a mad sum (can't remember how much exactly but it was a lot), to a U.S. collector - clearly advertised as a boot, and even pointed out to the buyer before payment was made - he replied saying that he wanted it because it was a boot, and it was the first one he'd seen after years of searching - turned out he was a full on 'Dynovoice' collector and he had to have it.

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How do you spot a boot of Clara Hardy?

One of the books says it goes for approx £1500 (sorry haven't got the other book) & 2 have just recently gone for £200 each on e-bay. As far as I could see they were both originals.

Thanks

they were originals, some copies turned up. I don't understand why when some copies turn up people just assume it is a bootleg because of what it's "supposed" to sell for. like are they trying to protect the value of their 'real' originals that they paid $2000 for?

John Hillyard in LA once told me that all the Ray Agee "I'm loosing again" Soultown are Boots !

done for the other side for the USA Blues market.

Never came out on anything else ?

Whats that worth now ??

Rob

Off topic sorry. John Hillyard what a man :lol:

What about that Johnny Watson..Its better to cry..a few years ago.

How much do they go for Nick?

How much do they go for Nick?

I think the first one was four figures...then another leaked out...then it became obvious they were pressed on modern plastic and it was all a scam

the John & the Wierdest boots are quite hard to spot though are'nt they?,what with the originals being hard? Probably into weighing the vinyl to spot 'em?

Sold mine i think to JM ,HOPE IT WAS A BOOT :lol:

the John & the Wierdest boots are quite hard to spot though are'nt they?,what with the originals being hard? Probably into weighing the vinyl to spot 'em?

Sold mine i think to JM ,HOPE IT WAS A BOOT :lol:

If you hold the boot to the light the vinyl looks almost reddy/brown - plus if you put the needle on the record, it's totally silwnt and then you hear the slight hiss of the original come in

I think the first one was four figures...then another leaked out...then it became obvious they were pressed on modern plastic and it was all a scam

Ah. Thanks Pete.

I get it. Nick was referring to the price of the first one that turned up, rather than the current price of the ones that turned up in quantity.

To be honest, I had thought that these were legitimate pressings, rather than Boots.

I believed that they were newly pressed 45's, by the owner of the Valise label, of previously unissued material, from legitimate tapes of his own (unreleased material).

He also pressed up a lovely Frank Dell track around the same time, in "Welcome Home" and did a limited run of JGW on Red vinyl which is quite rare I believe.

:lol:

Sean

If you hold the boot to the light the vinyl looks almost reddy/brown - plus if you put the needle on the record, it's totally silwnt and then you hear the slight hiss of the original come in

thanks PETE,have heard that before ,just forgot, must be old age :lol: .But i ain't got it now to hold up to the light.As for the hiss,my hearing's never been that good......... :thumbup:

Sold a boot of The High Keyes 'Living A Lie' on eBay for £56 a few years ago - clearly marked up as not being an original copy and with a scan of the label too.

Strewth! :lol:

Sold an orange crackin up 2nd issue for £45 just before Christmas..

a certain well known dj / dealer has recently shelled out the thick end of 2 grand for a boot of the salvadors

And Got His Money Back :wicked:

No no that's just it, Phonetics - Michigan Move is the B side. But as Pyramid cuts out (on the A) just before the end, you can clearly hear a couple of seconds of feminine ingenuity! :wicked:

Have one of these for sale on the website if anyone s interested. :lol:

www.cratesofsoul.com

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