Hickory - Barbara Mills - Queen Of Fools

[45cellar]

The Original has Large Font Title - (DEMO & Stock Copy)

This one is the second as it has Small Title and Recording First Published 1965

Edited February 2, 2008 by 45cellar

[ChrisOD1964]

The Original has Large Font Title - (DEMO & Stock Copy)

This one is the second as it has Small Title and Recording First Published 1965

i had the demo years ago sold it in a job lot what does it sell for now?

and what does the stock go for?

chris

[Sebastian]

Here's an original issue copy which I sold in November 2007 for $61 on eBay:

Edited February 2, 2008 by Sebastian

[Guest]

The Original has Large Font Title - (DEMO & Stock Copy)

This one is the second as it has Small Title and Recording First Published 1965

Top one "painted dessert"

Bottom "shapiro"

[45cellar]

Here's an original issue copy which I sold in November 2007 for $61 on eBay:

Thanks Sebastian,

It's Much Better to compare the Stock Copies.

I've never had chance of an Original Stock Copy.

Edited February 2, 2008 by 45cellar

[45cellar]

i had the demo years ago sold it in a job lot what does it sell for now?

and what does the stock go for?

chris

Hi Chris

According to Manships 3rd Edition

£50 = Original White DEMO

£50 = Original Stock Copy

I'm not sure what the current Values are.

Edited February 2, 2008 by 45cellar

[45cellar]

Top one "painted dessert"

Bottom "shapiro"

Hi Ken

Yes, you're right, I'm not sure why they did that.

[Sebastian]

The "small title" issue copy above was actually booted from the UK copy (it has got the exact same information and typesetting):

Then there's this alternative UK white demo!

[45cellar]

The "small title" issue copy above was actually booted from the UK copy (it has got the exact same information and typesetting):

Then there's this alternative UK white demo!

Now it makes sense.

Thanks Once again Sebastian.

[Guest Matt Male]

Hi Ken

Yes, you're right, I'm not sure why they did that.

I've also got an original issue with Painted Desert on the 'Queen of Fools' side but on the flip side it says Acuff Rose.

Why the different names? What do they signify? Different music publishers for each side?

update: answering my own question..

Acuff Rose was the publishing company from Nashville Tennesee that also ran Hickory.

Painted Desert is part of Shapiro, Berstein and Co Inc. which explains why the original is Painted Desert and later it is Shapiro. It later took on the umbrella publishing company name.

Here's Shapiro Berstein's site https://www.shapirobernstein.com/mbr/welcome.html

Edited February 2, 2008 by Matt Male

[45cellar]

I've also got an original issue with Painted Desert on the 'Queen of Fools' side but on the flip side it says Acuff Rose.

Why the different names? What do they signify? Different music publishers for each side?

update: answering my own question..

Acuff Rose was the publishing company from Nashville Tennesee that also ran Hickory.

Painted Desert is part of Shapiro, Berstein and Co Inc. which explains why the original is Painted Desert and later it is Shapiro. It later took on the umbrella publishing company name.

Here's Shapiro Berstein's site https://www.shapirobernstein.com/mbr/welcome.html

Thanks Matt

Incredible Information, I think that we've now covered just about everything about the release.

All in a couple of hours or so, Amazing. Just what this forum is about.

[Dave Pinch]

thats not an alternate white demo. its a white issue. It also came out on a black issue and

a pink issue here in th uk. all with push out 4 prong centers. the demo has a full center.

thats 4 original uk variations. Not bad for a rare record is it

dave

[45cellar]

thats not an alternate white demo. its a white issue. It also came out on a black issue and

a pink issue here in th uk. all with push out 4 prong centers. the demo has a full center.

thats 4 original uk variations. Not bad for a rare record is it

dave

Hi Dave

I've a copy of Bread and Butter on Black with a Blue Hickory Rainbow Logo.

Seen many on Pink Label. I also have Run Baby Run on White Hickory Stock Copy.

I didn't know that some had been released on all designs.

As you say, not bad for such a Rare record as Queen Of Fools to appear on 4 Original Variations.

Be good to see scans of the other label variations for Barbara Mills.

[soulAdequateNP]

And yet another label variation - I presume this is the West Coast press as it has the Monarch MR stamp and delta number 57735

[45cellar]

And yet another label variation - I presume this is the West Coast press as it has the Monarch MR stamp and delta number 57735

Now that is one Variation I definitely haven't seen before, Thanks for posting it.

[Dave Fleming]

And yet another label variation - I presume this is the West Coast press as it has the Monarch MR stamp and delta number 57735

There`s also a w/promo styreen boot done at Monarch with the MR stamp.

Dave f..........

[Guest Gogs]

a bootleg copy

[45cellar]

a bootleg copy

Thanks for posting this.

It all helps to Identify one from the other.

[Dave Fleming]

A different Boot to the one put up,

Dave f..........

[Guest Gogs]

A different Boot to the one put up,

Dave f..........

your is painted dessert mines is shapiro bernstein, it's all rather confusing

[chrissie]

What makes me laugh is you all discuss it but if you heard it out you would all call the soul police so fast as you wouldn't see your arses for dust.

The flip is a great toon and far better than QOF

QoFxx

[45cellar]

And yet another label variation - I presume this is the West Coast press as it has the Monarch MR stamp and delta number 57735

Here's the Vinyl Original + Matrix

[Rbman]

a bootleg copy

I found i had got that one only last weekend.....

[Ez]

On 4/22/2010 at 11:55, 45cellar said:

 

 

Here's the Vinyl Original + Matrix

 

hello, longtime lurker first time poster. I just found a copy with the above matrix but with a star, anyone ever seen one like this? great record btw. thanks

Edited January 8, 2016 by ez

[Tlscapital]

8 hours ago, ez said:

hello, longtime lurker first time poster. I just found a copy with the above matrix but with a star, anyone ever seen one like this? great record btw. thanks

Looks like a stamp from here. Nothing special.

[Jona]

Hi can anyone confirm whether the original has a "Nashville matrix" stamp, as per Manships new book please.  I have just purchased a vinyl WLP larger title than artist, label is well worn, but plays great.  Thanks

[Gilly]

On ‎02‎/‎02‎/‎2008 at 15:17, Sebastian said:

 

 

The "small title" issue copy above was actually booted from the UK copy (it has got the exact same information and typesetting):

 

 

 

Then there's this alternative UK white demo!

 

I used to have a UK issue, it had  Return to BBC Library  stamped on it in purple ink 

[Winsford Soul]

2 hours ago, Gilly said:

I used to have a UK issue, it had  Return to BBC Library  stamped on it in purple ink 

My Sue Lynne.  Don't pity me had the same also in a half round plastic record sleeve 

Steve 

[SX150]

I have an Advanced Pressing Acetate on PYE - not a 1975 reissue - anyone else know about this ?

[Rotherham Soul]

On 14/01/2022 at 17:44, SX150 said:

I have an Advanced Pressing Acetate on PYE - not a 1975 reissue - anyone else know about this ?

Hickory were pressed and distributed by Pye back in the 60's from from 1964 to around November 1966, so Queen of Fools would come into this timeframe

Edited January 15, 2022 by rotherham soul

[SX150]

Thanks, so this will pre-date the UK Hickory release...any idea of value ?

[Dave Pinch]

On 15/01/2022 at 17:02, SX150 said:

Thanks, so this will pre-date the UK Hickory release...any idea of value ?

if its a pye advance it could well be a pre release to the original uk hickory copy and will be worth quite a bit.. uk hickory were distributed by decca and issued over here on london from 1969