Harrogatesoul Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 (edited) So there's the raging debate on OVO thread but what about the music eh? No arguments about OVO etc and should they/should they not be played out (I know my humble opinion) but how about a look at some of the fantastic unreleased tracks on legit labels that have found favour whether on the dancefloor or at home. Label owners / publishing companies feel free to promote and give us a taste of what may be to come! Will kick off with a couple of easy ones: Gloria Shannon - Tears (Are A Gift From Heaven) - REALSIDE Dottie Pearson - Bring It Over Baby / House Made Of Love - Grapevine There's plenty out there without having to resort to the same old boots / oldies. Plenty of recent releases but what about forgotten ones? Rich Edited September 23, 2008 by harrogatesoul Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Rimmer Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 So there's the raging debate on OVO thread but what about the music eh? No arguments about OVO etc and should they/should they not be played out (I know my humble opinion) but how about a look at some of the fantastic unreleased tracks on legit labels that have found favour whether on the dancefloor or at home. Label owners / publishing companies feel free to promote and give us a taste of what may be to come! Will kick off with a couple of easy ones: Gloria Shannon - Tears (Are A Gift From Heaven) - REALSIDE Dottie Pearson - Bring It Over Baby / House Made Of Love - Grapevine There's plenty out there without having to resort to the same old boots / oldies. Plenty of recent releases but what about forgotten ones? Rich Isn't the title of the thread a contradiction ! Surely if they are on legit 45s, they are no longer unreleased material. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Harrogatesoul Posted September 23, 2008 Author Share Posted September 23, 2008 Oh ok - Previously unreleased material issued on legitimate 45s and not bootlegs for the first time. Hows that? Or do we always have to enter into a debate rather than actually talking about the music which is why we're all here in the first place? I give up sometimes. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Trev Thomas Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 the servicemen - i'll stop loving you - grapevine 2000 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Prophonics 2029 Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Oh ok - Previously unreleased material issued on legitimate 45s and not bootlegs for the first time. Hows that? Or do we always have to enter into a debate rather than actually talking about the music which is why we're all here in the first place? I give up sometimes. Err what's it about again I didn't catch that 70ts or 20ts Y2K. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Harrogatesoul Posted September 23, 2008 Author Share Posted September 23, 2008 Whatever the decade I'm not bothered - But just thought we'd stick to the trusty loved 45 format. Plenty to go around.... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Peter99 Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Err what's it about again I didn't catch that 70ts or 20ts Y2K. I got it mate! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Paul Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Eddie Holman - Hold Me In Your Arms (Grapevine) Carla Thomas - I'll Never Stop Loving You (Kent) Al Williams - Try Them (Grapevine) Rozetta Johnson - You Better Keep What You Got (Shotgun) Jimmy Ruffin - We Finally Found Out (Soul Junction) Dottie Pearson - A House Made Of Love / Bring It Over Baby (Grapevine) Sam Dees - Fool Of The Year (Shotgun) Gloria Shannon - Tears Are Gifts From Heaven (Realside) Detroit Magnificents - Is This A Woman's Way? (Grapevine) Bobby Cutchins - Leaving (Soul Junction) The Servicemen - I'll Stop Loving You (Grapevine) Johnnie Taylor - Please Let Me In (Kent) ? Jerry Williams - When You Move, You Lose (Grapevine) Timmy Willis - Such Misery (Joe Boy) Johnny Moore - Yesterday, Today And Tomorrow (Grapevine) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Harrogatesoul Posted September 23, 2008 Author Share Posted September 23, 2008 Thanks Paul - Some real highlights there (including your very own) - Sam Dees being an obvious highlight personally. A lot issued in the 21st century but how about any early ones? Did anyone start the ball rolling so to speak or is a later soul phenomenon? Rich Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Paul Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Thanks Paul - Some real highlights there (including your very own) - Sam Dees being an obvious highlight personally. A lot issued in the 21st century but how about any early ones? Did anyone start the ball rolling so to speak or is a later soul phenomenon? Rich Hello Rich, I'd say The Contours "Baby Hit And Run" is a classic example. Regards, Paul Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Trev Thomas Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 i would have thought betty boo - say it isn't so on grapevine would have been one of the first Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Harrogatesoul Posted September 23, 2008 Author Share Posted September 23, 2008 Of course - I didn't realise that was unissued till I read it on the other thread. Always assumed it was LP track. Rich Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Paul Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Of course - I didn't realise that was unissued till I read it on the other thread. Always assumed it was LP track. Rich I can't be certain, Rich, because it was a long time ago, but I thought it was previously unissued. Anyone know for sure? Paul Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest topcatnumpty1 Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 I can't be certain, Rich, because it was a long time ago, but I thought it was previously unissued. Anyone know for sure? Paul Betty Boo defo previously unreleased(as my learned friends have said) found at the same time as --Spaceland,Hanky Panky,Down in the dumps--all came from Popcorn Wylie(direct) to John Anderson the 1 st. came out on the Yellow Grapevine L.P. Paul--p.m ed. you Tony COLEBY Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Paul Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Betty Boo defo previously unreleased(as my learned friends have said) found at the same time as --Spaceland,Hanky Panky,Down in the dumps--all came from Popcorn Wylie(direct) to John Anderson the 1 st. came out on the Yellow Grapevine L.P. Paul--p.m ed. you Tony COLEBY Thanks Tony, I was thinking more about The Contours on Tamla Motown. That may have been one of the first examples. If it was previously unissued, can anyone remember what year it was issued on TMG? I have 1974 in my mind but I'm not sure. Best regards, Paul Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Paul Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 List updated... Eddie Holman - Hold Me In Your Arms (Grapevine) Carla Thomas - I'll Never Stop Loving You (Kent) Al Williams - Try Them (Grapevine) Rozetta Johnson - You Better Keep What You Got (Shotgun) Jimmy Ruffin - We Finally Found Out (Soul Junction) Dottie Pearson - A House Made Of Love / Bring It Over Baby (Grapevine) Sam Dees - Fool Of The Year (Shotgun) Gloria Shannon - Tears Are Gifts From Heaven (Realside) Detroit Magnificents - Is This A Woman's Way? (Grapevine) Bobby Cutchins - Leaving (Soul Junction) The Servicemen - I'll Stop Loving You (Grapevine) Johnnie Taylor - Please Let Me In (Kent) ? Jerry Williams - When You Move, You Lose (Grapevine) Timmy Willis - Such Misery (Joe Boy) Johnny Moore - Yesterday, Today And Tomorrow (Grapevine) Primers - How Does It Grab You (Kent) Contours - Baby Hit And Run (Tamla Motown) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sean Hampsey Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Aleshure "Shower The World" Phoenix Chuck Jackson "What's With This Loneliness" Kent Sean Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 List updated... Primers - How Does It Grab You (Kent) Unissued? Was origianlly issued as a 45 on Hale. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dennisoul Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 (edited) Hello Rich, I'd say The Contours "Baby Hit And Run" is a classic example. Regards, Paul Paul, is the Contours track only on the MFP lp, always loved this...didn`t know this was its only issue. Absolutely okay in my book to play the likes of the Servicemen..I`ll stop loving you..Grapevine..Wonderful track!!! and also all those lovely other previously unissued sounds...Theres no other way to hear them!!! I wish more of these previously unissued items were played out, Imagine what a soul nite that would be, rather than keeping hearing the same things that need to be put to bed for a long while. The depth and quality of these sounds, that generally only cost about £10, are astounding.....Just heard that Gloria Shannon ...tears, couple of weeks ago...stunnin!! Unissued tracks that labels like Grapevine etc are bringing out is absolutely amazing. We`re all missing out if they dont get played out. Andy Edited September 23, 2008 by Dennisoul Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Plenty on Kent, especially the anniversary 45's. Melba Moore Magic Touch, Milton Bennett - One More Lie, Gigi And Charmaines etc. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Harrogatesoul Posted September 23, 2008 Author Share Posted September 23, 2008 Paul, is the Contours track only on the MFP lp, always loved this...didn`t know this was its only issue. Absolutely okay in my book to play the likes of the Servicemen..I`ll stop loving you..Grapevine..Wonderful track!!! and also all those lovely other previously unissued sounds...Theres no other way to hear them!!! I wish more of these previously unissued items were played out, Imagine what a soul nite that would be, rather than keeping hearing the same things that need to be put to bed for a long while. The depth and quality of these sounds, that generally only cost about £10, are astounding.....Just heard that Gloria Shannon ...tears, couple of weeks ago...stunnin!! Unissued tracks that labels like Grapevine etc are bringing out is absolutely amazing. We`re all missing out if they dont get played out. Andy Absolutley agree Andy - Kind of my point in a way. Servicemen a great slice of group soul. As re. the Stardust label guys - Are they legitimate issues? If so there's a fair few on there am I right? Rich Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Paul Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Unissued? Was origianlly issued as a 45 on Hale. Well spotted, Chalky. Actually, the producer had at first told me it was unissued but then a few copies turned up which proved that he was wrong. He'd obviously forgotten about it. And now I'm just as forgetful as he was. I'll remove it from the list. Reluctantly. If you insist. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Paul Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 List corrected... Eddie Holman - Hold Me In Your Arms (Grapevine) Carla Thomas - I'll Never Stop Loving You (Kent) Al Williams - Try Them (Grapevine) Rozetta Johnson - You Better Keep What You Got (Shotgun) Jimmy Ruffin - We Finally Found Out (Soul Junction) Dottie Pearson - A House Made Of Love / Bring It Over Baby (Grapevine) Sam Dees - Fool Of The Year (Shotgun) Gloria Shannon - Tears Are Gifts From Heaven (Realside) Detroit Magnificents - Is This A Woman's Way? (Grapevine) Bobby Cutchins - Leaving (Soul Junction) The Servicemen - I'll Stop Loving You (Grapevine) Johnnie Taylor - Please Let Me In (Kent) ? Jerry Williams - When You Move, You Lose (Grapevine) Timmy Willis - Such Misery (Joe Boy) Johnny Moore - Yesterday, Today And Tomorrow (Grapevine) Contours - Baby Hit And Run (Tamla Motown) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sebastian Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 (edited) Some good unissued tunes that have been issued on 7" vinyl over the last couple of years: David Sea - Believe In Me - SHOTGUN Other Brothers - Nobody But Me - KENT Mixed Emotions - Am I Imposing - ROCK-WAY Edited September 23, 2008 by Sebastian Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dylan Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 in the car tiday from the good guys don't always win CD ... Frederick Knight "It ain't much fun" fantastic some of these CDs contain some absolute belters. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Paul Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Some good unissued tunes that have been issued on 7" vinyl over the last couple of years: David Sea - Believe In Me - SHOTGUN Other Brothers - Nobody But Me - KENT Mixed Emotions - Am I Imposing - ROCK-WAYHow could I forget about David Sea? I'll add it to my list. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dylan Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 in the car tiday from the good guys don't always win CD ... Frederick Knight "It ain't much fun" fantastic some of these CDs contain some absolute belters. just seen this is for 45s not stuff on CD... DOH Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Harrogatesoul Posted September 23, 2008 Author Share Posted September 23, 2008 JJ BARNES - Love At First Sight (Hayley) JIMMY RUFFIN - The Entertainer/STEVE MANCHA - One in a million EMANUEL LASKEY - (Put your Name) In the Hall of Fame THUNDERBIRD SOUND - In heaven and on earth Nice handful of offerings from Hayley - Was the Loretta Kendrick previously unknown/released? Gorgeous track IMO. Just Brothers 'Honey' ?? Rich Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chris L Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Isn't the title of the thread a contradiction ! Surely if they are on legit 45s, they are no longer unreleased material. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Paul Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 in the car tiday from the good guys don't always win CD ... Frederick Knight "It ain't much fun" fantastic some of these CDs contain some absolute belters. Hello Dylan, There are hundreds of amazing tracks which have surfaced on CD but I think this thread is about those which were eventually released on 45s. Don't blame me, Rich made the rules. Frederick Knight, by the way, wasn't anywhere near as good as Shirley Brown in my opinion. One track that I wish had been issued as a 45 is "Millionaire" by Chuck Jackson. Best regards, Paul Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Harrogatesoul Posted September 23, 2008 Author Share Posted September 23, 2008 I'm really not a dictator / take my ball home type.. honest... - On a more serious note the unreleased material on CD's IMO does get over-looked due do its format in some ways?? Did someone mention recently there was one or two on Goldmine?? Rich Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
John Siret Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Jeffree - Love Loan (Expansion) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dylan Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Hello Dylan, There are hundreds of amazing tracks which have surfaced on CD but I think this thread is about those which were eventually released on 45s. Don't blame me, Rich made the rules. Frederick Knight, by the way, wasn't anywhere near as good as Shirley Brown in my opinion. One track that I wish had been issued as a 45 is "Millionaire" by Chuck Jackson. Best regards, Paul rules are there to be broken still need to hear the shirley brown but found it cheap enough via a quick google search. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Paul Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 rules are there to be broken still need to hear the shirley brown but found it cheap enough via a quick google search. "It Ain't No Fun" might be Shirley's best ever moment. Especially the long version. Now let's have no more rebellious behaviour from you. And please try to pay attention, otherwise you'll have to stand in the corner until home time. Deputy Headmaster Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve G Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Art Posey on Kent 12" Sam dees "Run to me" (as above) Sy Hightower Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
jocko Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 (edited) JIMMY RUFFIN - The Entertainer/STEVE MANCHA - One in a million I am pretty sure I have the Jimmy Ruffin on Polydor LP Rich, I know it was discussed as unissued at the time but sure I found the LP in Manchester not much later, will try and dig it out when my PC repairs are over! Also forgot to say wantt aware the Sam Dees Shotgun actually come out on 7"? I bought the David Sea but dont remember seeing the Sam Dees, is it still available? Edited September 23, 2008 by jocko Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Paul Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 I'm really not a dictator / take my ball home type.. honest... - On a more serious note the unreleased material on CD's IMO does get over-looked due do its format in some ways?? Did someone mention recently there was one or two on Goldmine?? Rich "Recipe (For Love)" by L.V. Johnson. I suppose that counts. Paul Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
jocko Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Art Posey on Kent 12" Sam dees "Run to me" (as above) Sy Hightower What is the details of the Sy Hightower Steve, who did that, was it Hayley? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Harrogatesoul Posted September 23, 2008 Author Share Posted September 23, 2008 I am pretty sure I have the Jimmy Ruffin on Polydor LP Rich, I know it was discussed as unissued at the time but sure I found the LP in Manchester not much later, will try and dig it out when my PC repairs are over! Also forgot to say wantt aware the Sam Dees Shotgun actually come out on 7"? I bought the David Sea but dont remember seeing the Sam Dees, is it still available? Thanks for the info Jock much appreciated. Sam Dees still to be released as yet but coming soon I'm reliably informed. Best Rich Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest topcatnumpty1 Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 "Recipe (For Love)" by L.V. Johnson. I suppose that counts. Paul Too right --top tune----Recipe--my Rani has always loved it---also Little Anne(2 0n Kent) 60,s Detroit soul at its Zenith(good word) Paul have p.m. ed you Tony Coleby Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Paul Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 I am pretty sure I have the Jimmy Ruffin on Polydor LP Rich, I know it was discussed as unissued at the time but sure I found the LP in Manchester not much later, will try and dig it out when my PC repairs are over! Also forgot to say wantt aware the Sam Dees Shotgun actually come out on 7"? I bought the David Sea but dont remember seeing the Sam Dees, is it still available?Hello You haven't missed it, Jocko. "Fool Of The Year" by Sam Dees will be out on Shotgun SHOT 103 in a few weeks. And closely behind it will be "Missing You" by Eddie Floyd (Shotgun SHOT 104). Best regards, Paul Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Paul Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Bob & Earl Band - My Little Girl (Jay Boy) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve G Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 What is the details of the Sy Hightower Steve, who did that, was it Hayley? Yes Hayley. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ian Dewhirst Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 I can't be certain, Rich, because it was a long time ago, but I thought it was previously unissued. Anyone know for sure? Paul Yep. Established that the single came out 3 months before the album appeared, so the Contours should deffo be on the list. Ian D Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sean Hampsey Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 "It Ain't No Fun" might be Shirley's best ever moment. Especially the long version. With you there Paul. Just got a chill down my spine just thinking about it. Transported me right back to me yoof that did! Incredible track! (even if slightly off topic) Sean Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Paul Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Yep. Established that the single came out 3 months before the album appeared, so the Contours should deffo be on the list. Ian D Thanks Ian, "Baby Hit And Run" was probably the track which really made us all start to wonder just what unknown delights were in the Motown vaults. I feel like I'm sixteen again. Paul Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ady Croasdell Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Art Posey on Kent 12" Sam dees "Run to me" (as above) Sy Hightower Art Gentry Steve Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve G Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Art Gentry Steve Oh yea - I am getting as forgetful as Ian D Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
pikeys dog Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Wasn't it Betty Boo on the original Grapevine series that was unissued? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Paul Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Art Gentry Steve "This Is My Chance"? Was that a 45? Paul Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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