Possibly Interesting Observations About Playing Oldies

[Pete S]

I got this box of records today, loads of oldies, so thought I'd do a podcast with a few things I haven't heard or played for a long time, so amongst the class items like Ronnie Mcnair, Billy Hambric, Frank Dell and so on, I put a few kind of 'never played anywhere' records on: LJ Johnson "Your magic put a spell on me", The Present "Manys the slip", Joey Dee "How can I forget", Benny Curtis "Dirty hearts"....and the interesting thing was, I absolutely LOVED hearing those records, maybe it's because I just couldn't remember when I last heard them but my favourite of the entire lot (today) was that inst of How Can I Forget! I remember my first ever trip to Wigan and this and Little Joe Cook were the two biggest sounds at the time.

It just made me think how great it was back then when you could play almost anything. Granted it got a bit silly with all the UK label records in 78, but I think I definitely preferred the mid 70's to anything that followed it.

[Davetay]

I got this box of records today, loads of oldies, so thought I'd do a podcast with a few things I haven't heard or played for a long time, so amongst the class items like Ronnie Mcnair, Billy Hambric, Frank Dell and so on, I put a few kind of 'never played anywhere' records on: LJ Johnson "Your magic put a spell on me", The Present "Manys the slip", Joey Dee "How can I forget", Benny Curtis "Dirty hearts"....and the interesting thing was, I absolutely LOVED hearing those records, maybe it's because I just couldn't remember when I last heard them but my favourite of the entire lot (today) was that inst of How Can I Forget! I remember my first ever trip to Wigan and this and Little Joe Cook were the two biggest sounds at the time.

It just made me think how great it was back then when you could play almost anything. Granted it got a bit silly with all the UK label records in 78, but I think I definitely preferred the mid 70's to anything that followed it.

I was not that keen on Benny Curtis back than, but I did buy it.

Someone played it at Burnley All-Nighter last year and it sounded great.

[Pete S]

I was not that keen on Benny Curtis back than, but I did buy it.

Someone played it at Burnley All-Nighter last year and it sounded great.

I didn't like it much either - ever - but it sounded bloomin' brilliant earlier on today. People thought this was a Soussan job when it first appeared, presumably cos it sounds just like The Joker.

[Wiganer1]

hey i played Weakspot at the last Co-op and it went down a storm cuz people hadnt heard it out for years!!! little scotty said to me only u cud just come out with that then Voices Inc str8 after!!!!!

thats what oldies djs should be about playing oldies from all eras!

[Swifty]

Remember getting a copy of L.J.Johnson on an emidisc before it got released and spending a full Sunday

morning at work knocking up a 20th Century Label (because I was told that's what it was coming out on ! )

(work in graphic design but in those days it was Letraset & Cameras , no computers then matey!)

Memories hey!

then it came out on another 'kin label was it Phillips ????

Cheers

Swifty

[Pete S]

Remember getting a copy of L.J.Johnson on an emidisc before it got released and spending a full Sunday

morning at work knocking up a 20th Century Label (because I was told that's what it was coming out on ! )

(work in graphic design but in those days it was Letraset & Cameras , no computers then matey!)

Memories hey!

then it came out on another 'kin label was it Phillips ????

Cheers

Swifty

This made me laugh because I did EXACTLY the same thing with WEAK SPOT: everyone said it was coming out on Private Stock and I spent two schoolnights making a Private Stock label for it, only to see it come out on 20th century.

I remember buying an Emidisc of Doris Jones "He's so irreplaceable" at Wigan, great version, I asked Ian levine about this a couple of years ago and he said that version never came out and was in fact lost. Wonder what happened to it..

[Guest gordon russell]

I got this box of records today, loads of oldies, so thought I'd do a podcast with a few things I haven't heard or played for a long time, so amongst the class items like Ronnie Mcnair, Billy Hambric, Frank Dell and so on, I put a few kind of 'never played anywhere' records on: LJ Johnson "Your magic put a spell on me", The Present "Manys the slip", Joey Dee "How can I forget", Benny Curtis "Dirty hearts"....and the interesting thing was, I absolutely LOVED hearing those records, maybe it's because I just couldn't remember when I last heard them but my favourite of the entire lot (today) was that inst of How Can I Forget! I remember my first ever trip to Wigan and this and Little Joe Cook were the two biggest sounds at the time.

It just made me think how great it was back then when you could play almost anything. Granted it got a bit silly with all the UK label records in 78, but I think I definitely preferred the mid 70's to anything that followed it.

dirty hearts along with the satisfactions and the four pro's plus many more underplayed tunes were being played at burnley allnighter well over two years ago.......long before anywhere else:thumbsup:

[Ted Massey]

dirty hearts along with the satisfactions and the four pro's plus many more underplayed tunes were being played at burnley allnighter well over two years ago.......long before anywhere else:thumbsup:

Satisfactions and the 4 Pros were being played around here well before that Tezz you should get out more:lol:

hope you are well mate are you attending wellingborough?

[Guest gordon russell]

Satisfactions and the 4 Pros were being played around here well before that Tezz you should get out more:lol:

hope you are well mate are you attending wellingborough?

beg to differ with you oh messiah lol.........won,t be going to a doo where the promoter has over 600+ people in with all profits going to cancer relief.........but guess what NO money for cancer relief and no explanation as to why?.....stinks you bet see ya somewhere else atb T

[Pete Eccles]

dirty hearts along with the satisfactions and the four pro's plus many more underplayed tunes were being played at burnley allnighter well over two years ago.......long before anywhere else:thumbsup:

Am I missing something?

The 4 pros was getting loadsa hammer round the North West years before Burnley (niter) opened it's doors,

[TOAD]

Bought my Four Pros out of PEPS shop 1980 !

its been known for centurys LOL

[Pete S]

Bought my Four Pros out of PEPS shop 1980 !

its been known for centurys LOL

You're right, known for years and years

[Mrtag]

Am I missing something?

The 4 pros was getting loadsa hammer round the North West years before Burnley (niter) opened it's doors,

Correct Pete!! I remember standing at the back of Lowton with a white demo and a red issue in my sales box not knowing which to sell or keep!! decisions, decisions !!! Atb John.

[Pete Eccles]

Correct Pete!! I remember standing at the back of Lowton with a white demo and a red issue in my sales box not knowing which to sell or keep!! decisions, decisions !!! Atb John.

I had the demo, looked mint, skipped randomly and could never trust it, Terry Davies and Neil Jones had the same problem, maybe just coincidence, we all ended up gettin an issue, and all hammered it, must be 10 years ago,

[Mrtag]

I had the demo, looked mint, skipped randomly and could never trust it, Terry Davies and Neil Jones had the same problem, maybe just coincidence, we all ended up gettin an issue, and all hammered it, must be 10 years ago,

Remember that well!! Your mate Mick had that Vestax portable player and he told me the story about the Demo's but mine played perfect, it was mint but I sold that and kept the issue that was only excellent plus but everyone said the issue was harder to find!! Good old tune anyway! Atb John.

[Mrtag]

I had the demo, looked mint, skipped randomly and could never trust it, Terry Davies and Neil Jones had the same problem, maybe just coincidence, we all ended up gettin an issue, and all hammered it, must be 10 years ago,

Pete the year would be 2005/6 Because I gave Mick my wrist band for Prestatyn and I don't know if it was you or jonesy he took back Sunday night as I had to get back home!! Atb John. Ps I hope to see you Saturday at Rammy!!

[Pete Eccles]

Pete the year would be 2005/6 Because I gave Mick my wrist band for Prestatyn and I don't know if it was you or jonesy he took back Sunday night as I had to get back home!! Atb John. Ps I hope to see you Saturday at Rammy!!

Your miles out John, was hammering it at Bolton Anglers around the time it was on a Bury town hall anniversary cd, Anglers finished end of 03, the Sunday night at Prestatyn was way after and nothing to do with it really, no matter anyway,

May be at Rammy not sure,

[dthedrug]

Bought my Four Pros out of PEPS shop 1980 !

its been known for centurys LOL

Hi All ...If your memory is that good !? and it is, can you or any YAM YAM ,(how sweet) remenber a HIT PACK CP DEMO, Gene Chandler "I can take care of myself"(one for the BIG boys) on ACTION, and Murial Day "9 X out of 10" PADE 1 DEMO. All 3 had very poor F up labels Writing and water damaged, if so how much did you pay him for your record? and who did he get all the records like the 3 I mention of??? This has bugged me for years. and thinking about it! call it early 80ts rather than 1980:ph34r: DAVE "YAM LOT R REALY SMOSHING YOW AM"

[Mike]

I got this box of records today, loads of oldies, so thought I'd do a podcast with a few things I haven't heard or played for a long time, so amongst the class items like Ronnie Mcnair, Billy Hambric, Frank Dell and so on, I put a few kind of 'never played anywhere' records on: LJ Johnson "Your magic put a spell on me", The Present "Manys the slip", Joey Dee "How can I forget", Benny Curtis "Dirty hearts"....and the interesting thing was, I absolutely LOVED hearing those records, maybe it's because I just couldn't remember when I last heard them but my favourite of the entire lot (today) was that inst of How Can I Forget! I remember my first ever trip to Wigan and this and Little Joe Cook were the two biggest sounds at the time.

It just made me think how great it was back then when you could play almost anything. Granted it got a bit silly with all the UK label records in 78, but I think I definitely preferred the mid 70's to anything that followed it.

find it happens with a few things now nowadays

aint really gave it much attention for years, you then play it now, and for what ever reason it sort of takes on a different aspect

you hear things going on that didnt really notice or grab you before

dunno why

it may be just that nowadays quality is so much better

or hearing it in a different sort of enviroment

if you wanna get scientific guess someone could even argue a case it may be something to do with your ears/listening changing as get older (you lose different frequencies)

[funkyfeet]

Played Evelyn Thomas "Doomsday" on the radio monday evening as a lost spin, sounded good after not hearing it for a very long time, instant memory of manic dancing in the Casino.

As for the Four Pros it needs to be lost for about 10 years, massively over played in North Wales and a few other places and all way before Burnley.

Edited August 19, 2010 by funkyfeet

[Pete S]

Played Evelyn Thomas "Doomsday" on the radio monday evening as a lost spin, sounded good after not hearing it for a very long time, instant memory of manic dancing in the Casino.

That's exactly the sort of thing I was thinking about, something you wouldn't normally play but you give it a go and it sounds great. All this reminds me of when I read Mark Freeman's oldies playlists when he DJ's, he seems to have no fear.

[Rich B]

After reading that I really wish I hadn't forgottent to record the Joey Dee track when I sold up! Always on of my favourites from that time.

best

RB

[Ian Parker]

I remember LJ Johnson being played recently. Dirty hearts is a regular around the east mids too. If only i could get some more spots , i love to revive a forgotten oldie.... Joey Dee is in my box too (along with many other goodies)

[Mrtag]

Pete the year would be 2005/6 Because I gave Mick my wrist band for Prestatyn and I don't know if it was you or jonesy he took back Sunday night as I had to get back home!! Atb John. Ps I hope to see you Saturday at Rammy!!

Yer probabley right!! Bl**dy Old age hopefully see ya Saturday mate Atb John

[Guest WPaulVanDyk]

LJ Johnson track was on top of the pops. They had it on the DVD for strange world of Northern soiul. That must have been very interesting

[Pete S]

LJ Johnson track was on top of the pops. They had it on the DVD for strange world of Northern soiul. That must have been very interesting

It was, I remember seeing it at the time. Evelyn Thomas was on as well, may even have been on the same show. But both wwere massive on pre releases before being officially released

[Spacehopper]

was only talkin bout this the other day...top 500 gets looked down upon but flick through it and theres probably a couple hundred not being played....which 4 pros you all talkin bout...they did a couple

dean

[Guest lady in red]

I might have imagined it but i think The Present was played at Stoke recently, i deffo played it at Loughborough bout 6 months ago, another fave that i never hear anymore... James Bounty, Prove yourself a Lady, always brings back memories of Leicester Oddfellows in early 80`s, ah memories

Debbie, Loughborough Soul Club

[Guest POTTERIESPECK]

I might have imagined it but i think The Present was played at Stoke recently, i deffo played it at Loughborough bout 6 months ago, another fave that i never hear anymore... James Bounty, Prove yourself a Lady, always brings back memories of Leicester Oddfellows in early 80`s, ah memories

Debbie, Loughborough Soul Club. Love this track, we used to sing bombers & green'n' clears to it.

[Daved]

This made me laugh because I did EXACTLY the same thing with WEAK SPOT: everyone said it was coming out on Private Stock and I spent two schoolnights making a Private Stock label for it, only to see it come out on 20th century.

Sorry if this is a daft question, but I wasn't around back then. Why would you want to bootleg a record which would shortly be going on widespread general release?

[Jerry Hipkiss]

Sorry if this is a daft question, but I wasn't around back then. Why would you want to bootleg a record which would shortly be going on widespread general release?

IIRC, Ian Levine had a number of copies of various tracks that he had recorded, including the above, in circulation on the scene, on an orange label called Tomorrow, to create a buzz while he tried to place them with major companies.

Edited August 24, 2010 by Jerry Hipkiss

[Pete S]

Sorry if this is a daft question, but I wasn't around back then. Why would you want to bootleg a record which would shortly be going on widespread general release?

Same as what Jerry says below. Ian sent out promo copies to various 'influential' dj's on a label called Tomorrow, the rest of us plebs had to make do with emidiscs, bear in mind these were spun a good 2 months before they were released to create a huge demand.

[dthedrug]

I got this box of records today, loads of oldies, so thought I'd do a podcast with a few things I haven't heard or played for a long time, so amongst the class items like Ronnie Mcnair, Billy Hambric, Frank Dell and so on, I put a few kind of 'never played anywhere' records on: LJ Johnson "Your magic put a spell on me", The Present "Manys the slip", Joey Dee "How can I forget", Benny Curtis "Dirty hearts"....and the interesting thing was, I absolutely LOVED hearing those records, maybe it's because I just couldn't remember when I last heard them but my favourite of the entire lot (today) was that inst of How Can I Forget! I remember my first ever trip to Wigan and this and Little Joe Cook were the two biggest sounds at the time.

It just made me think how great it was back then when you could play almost anything. Granted it got a bit silly with all the UK label records in 78, but I think I definitely preferred the mid 70's to anything that followed it.

hI PETE...APART FROM A FEW ECEPTION I MUST AGREE WITH YOU WITH A EXTENSION MID 70TS BEING 73 TO 78 WERE VERY POWFERAFULL AND EVENTFULL, TRAVELING ALL OVER THE COUNTRY FROM YATE TO CLEATHORPS THE RITZ SAMANTHAS BLACKPOOL MECCA AND THE NOTTS DARBY LIECSTER EVENTS AND MR NEV WHERY TO MR MS AND MUCH MUCH MORE FRANK LYNDON TO EDDIE FOSTER FROM BAGS TO PUNK ROCK, THE EXCITMANT NATURALLY SLOWED A BIT BUT THE VIC TO THE 86 CLUB AND ALL THE NEW SOUNDS THAT COME ALOND THEN IT ALL SEEMED TO STOP NOT LONG AFTER TONY MIDDLETON AND THE PARADOX WENT BIG? THE HAVE BEEN FEW NORTHERN DISCOVERIES IN THAT CLASS WHAT HAS HAPPENED ARE THE MODERN SOUL DISCOVERIES AS WE CAN ALL JOIN IN ON THAT SIDE OF THE MARKET OH KEELE IN ITS OKEH DAYS WAS ONPAR WITH WIGAN THANK TO MR ^ MRS mcC,OUD

DAVE REMEMBERS ...JUST

[Guest chorleybloke]

I got this box of records today, loads of oldies, so thought I'd do a podcast with a few things I haven't heard or played for a long time, so amongst the class items like Ronnie Mcnair, Billy Hambric, Frank Dell and so on, I put a few kind of 'never played anywhere' records on: LJ Johnson "Your magic put a spell on me", The Present "Manys the slip", Joey Dee "How can I forget", Benny Curtis "Dirty hearts"....and the interesting thing was, I absolutely LOVED hearing those records, maybe it's because I just couldn't remember when I last heard them but my favourite of the entire lot (today) was that inst of How Can I Forget! I remember my first ever trip to Wigan and this and Little Joe Cook were the two biggest sounds at the time.

It just made me think how great it was back then when you could play almost anything. Granted it got a bit silly with all the UK label records in 78, but I think I definitely preferred the mid 70's to anything that followed it.

Benny Curtis & The Present are fairly regular spins down under in Perth Pete. BC sounds excellent 2nd time round and The Present brings back memories of the loudest collective clapping I can ever recall. One of the reasons I now suffer from screaming tinnitus:lol:

Cheers.........Pete

[Anoraks Corner]

One of the reasons I now suffer from screaming tinnitus:lol:

I blame mine on the Hinckley leisure all nighters sound system...stupidly loud and always distorted

Or maybe it is because I press my headphones firmly against my head to really appreciate the bass lines in tracks

I hear the occasional Oldie/Classic 'out of context' at the collectors nights over here (no dancefloor, but curry and pizza available!), and you can defo hear different qualities within the track that one may have missed before.

Edited August 28, 2010 by Anoraks Corner

[Guest Tim aka Bob]

I might have imagined it but i think The Present was played at Stoke recently, i deffo played it at Loughborough bout 6 months ago, another fave that i never hear anymore... James Bounty, Prove yourself a Lady, always brings back memories of Leicester Oddfellows in early 80`s, ah memories

Debbie, Loughborough Soul Club

'Prove Yourself A Lady'.....quite appropriate!