Guest Nick Harrison Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 (edited) The good folks and the poor folks may not identify with it's sound, many deny it's related and others journeyed onwards through it's exposure via northern soul. Others already own it's acceptance - still today, having cherished it at root level. Whatever - what was your gateway or early introduction into the infectious modern soul vibe. Thanks in advance. Edited March 9, 2013 by Nick Harrison 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Barry Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 An easy and boring reply Nick - Searling. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
The Tempest Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Morecambe Pier 3rd Anniversary for me when I properly heard big venues playing to a dance floor going nuts for the " Modern Soul " sound 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve G Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 (edited) Living in the south in a way I was always exposed to it, and knew of the Mecca 70s stuff. But I guess what kick started the modern scene into life was the late 70s W.C playlists of Top Cat, Lee Moore & resourceful Ones, Brainstormers, James Mack & Chicago Gangsters, Love Committee and the like. I needed to get these records.... John Anderson was the man who first got those records and sold them to the then top DJs. Edited March 9, 2013 by Steve G 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dekka Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Upstairs room at Stoke late nineties early 2000's, Curtis, Maleady,Hinsley to name a few, Pretwich as well Only time I enjoyed Stoke, couldn't stand that drivel they play downstairs 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
St James Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 As a youngster listening to Soul Sam playing Dee Edwards Loving You Is All I want To Do to empty dance floors at EASC nighters in the late 70s....I thought to myself what's going on here then? Sold off any 60s I had and planted my flag firmly in the Modern camp.... Regards Ric Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Rhino Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 An easy and boring reply Nick - Searling. for me searling and farley were playing some quality modern soul at the morecambe pier but for me when it move to the carleton and had a modern room with dj like mark evans was a great time for modern soul for me also down stairs at bradford had some of my best night there to. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
KevH Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Mecca. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Peter99 Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 (edited) Before I got into the "scene" I was buying albums by the likes of the Stylistics - probably aged about 13 or 14. Then got into the scene at 15 - and really struggled to get my head round some of the stuff which was "big" - although as young new kid on the block you kept yer gob shut. I knew then that I liked mid tempo soul music. Someone has already said that they liked some of the stuff Sam was playing - and I did too. Went to Wigan in 80/81 and was absolutely blown away by Richard Searling - and others, Sam and Gary R. It was a long time ago, but things like Daybreak, Alfie Davison, Mind and Matter etc - equally championed by Sam and others too changed my whole outlook. Loved those sets - never been bettered in my view and it went from there. Other people over the years such as Poke, Pat, Arthur, Dave Thorley, Sean Hampsey etc have all played a part. Niter wise Wigan, Clifton Hall, Cleethorpes, Bradford etc. These days my favourite stuff is mid tempo seventies - doesn't have to be danceable as long as it's soul. I still appreciate 60's soul music and newer stuff too. Will have a think about some of my favourite and most memorable records. Could be a good thread this! Peter Edited March 9, 2013 by Peter99 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Souljazera Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 I echo, experienced and share those sentiments Peter...I never really made a difference in the age of records more the quality, as time passed by the quality of recordings improved often leaving 60's recording techniques inferior to progress made in studios. First time i heard King Tutt, Roy Dawson, Eddie Parker, Detroit sounds i knew that was where music was going and i was along for the journey...quality vocals, funky riffs, groovin' productions ! 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Peter99 Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Larry Houston, Will Colllins and Will Power, Curtis, Skip Mahoney, The Pretenders, Charles Johnson etc - the best music time for me by a long shot. Most of em have stood the test of time. I was living the dream back then - fantastic times with some of the best people I've ever met. Peter 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Popular Post Jordirip Posted March 9, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted March 9, 2013 For me I think it was always there before I knew of a scene for it. I used to love hearing tunes in various nightclubs that I used to go to in Bridlington and scarborough in the late 70's, stuff like Jackie Moore-this time baby, Philly Int All stars - Lets clean up the Ghetto, Instant Funk - Crying, Phylis Hymen, a load of the soulful disco stuff championed by Robbie Vincent on the radio. All this kind of went hand in hand with the stuff I was hearing on the northern scene such as Innersection, Creative source, Bobby Taylor 'Roses somewhere' etc, etc and stuff at wigan such as Kenny Burke 'Let somebody love you'. It always made so much sense to me to be played in the same room as Johnny Sayles and Lorraine chandler and I've never had a problem listening to any good music of any era. 10 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Peter99 Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 The good folks and the poor folks may not identify with it's sound, many deny it's related and others journeyed onwards through it's exposure via northern soul. Others already own it's acceptance - still today, having cherished it at root level. Whatever - what was your gateway or early introduction into the infectious modern soul vibe. Thanks in advance. So what was your first exposure to the dark side Nick? Peter Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Polyvelts Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Upstairs third room at Birmingham Locarno all dayers with Sam and Arthur circa 1980-81 ? Janice and omni mike jemison and co were being played downstairs but here was something very new and different, didn't recognise hardly anything except 'like taking candy from a baby', can't even remember who it was by! Brown label? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Peter99 Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 (edited) It always made so much sense to me to be played in the same room as Johnny Sayles and Lorraine chandler and I've never had a problem listening to any good music of any era. That's an interesting and very valid point buddy. Having to pick and choose between the main room and the modern room was a pain - I always felt like I was missing out and used to run back and forth dependant upon who was jocking. My preference back then and today, is/was modern - but I liked good soul music, and there was some dynamite new 60's discoveries being played. Peter Edited March 9, 2013 by Peter99 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Polyvelts Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Upstairs third room at Birmingham Locarno all dayers with Sam and Arthur circa 1980-81 ? Janice and omni mike jemison and co were being played downstairs but here was something very new and different, didn't recognise hardly anything except 'like taking candy from a baby', can't even remember who it was by! Brown label? J T Brown !!!!!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
TOAD Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 jt brown like takin candy 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Popular Post Jordirip Posted March 9, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted March 9, 2013 That's an interesting and very valid point buddy. Having to pick and choose between the main room and the modern room was a pain - I always felt like I was missing out and used to run back and forth dependant upon who was jocking. My preference back then was modern - but I liked good soul music, and there was some dynamite new 60's discoveries being played. Peter Yeah, and it also freed you up from the shackles of scene loyalty, y'know, you're either modern or 60's. I could never get my head round that ridiculous self imposed restriction on what I should or should not listen to. Curtis, Janice, keys to the City, velvet hammer, King tutt, Montclairs, Carstairs, flippin' heck, they all sound just as good now. 5 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Polyvelts Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 jt brown like takin candy Produced by Horace Ott ! Legend. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest gordon russell Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 modern soul may be good or bad...........but vibe!! no there is no vibe Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Peter99 Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 J T Brown !!!!!! Almost forgot about this buddy! Nice record. Peter Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
TOAD Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Produced by Horace Ott ! Legend. didnt know that must find my copy Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jordirip Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 modern soul may be good or bad...........but vibe!! no there is no vibe ? 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Peter99 Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Yeah, and it also freed you up from the shackles of scene loyalty, y'know, you're either modern or 60's. I could never get my head round that ridiculous self imposed restriction on what I should or should not listen to. Curtis, Janice, keys to the City, velvet hammer, King tutt, Montclairs, Carstairs, flippin' heck, they all sound just as good now. Fcuk it. I'm gonna power up my amp and dig some of these babies out. Volume! Peter 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Peter99 Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 modern soul may be good or bad...........but vibe!! no there is no vibe Ears and wax? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pT5Q559J990 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Nick Harrison Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 didnt know that must find my copy Best release on the Mahogany label, first played by Richard Searling and years later activated by one Martin Barnfather ! 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jordirip Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 modern soul may be good or bad...........but vibe!! no there is no vibe No vibe? 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Peter99 Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 (edited) Let's be aving yer! Peter Edited March 9, 2013 by Peter99 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jordirip Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Nice picture of Scarborough south beach on that video clip. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Dave Turner Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Peter99 Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Just heating up in the modern room here - might check out of the SS room. For now.................... No vibe, yeah right. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Nick Harrison Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Like other's flitting between The Winter Gardens, Wigan and Yate, back then, being mecca musically inspired, refreshing tunes like Willie Collins & Will Power - covered as Love Committee. Carol Anderson - Sad Girl. Flame King & The Bold Ones - Oh Happy Day. ZZ & Co covered as Oscar Perry. Larry Houston covered as Top Cat. Daybreak - as Peter 99 has posted - covered as Tyrone Edwards. Bobby Thurston - covered as Al Johnson and the Hit Men. Sandy Linzer and as Steve G flagged Lee Moore and The Resourceful ones & Roy Dawson. All broke the mould. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest tommymac Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 would have to be at yate john kojack harvey was always championing new releases Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Geeselad Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 this along with Nicky Newharkers and Larry houston amongst others, which in the 8ts seemed to be well intergrated with a range of stafford stuff and top 500 oldies. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Peter99 Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Like other's flitting between The Winter Gardens, Wigan and Yate, back then, being mecca musically inspired, refreshing tunes like Willie Collins & Will Power - covered as Love Committee. Carol Anderson - Sad Girl. Flame King & The Bold Ones - Oh Happy Day. ZZ & Co covered as Oscar Perry. Larry Houston covered as Top Cat. Daybreak - as Peter 99 has posted - covered as Tyrone Edwards. Bobby Thurston - covered as Al Johnson and the Hit Men. Sandy Linzer and as Steve G flagged Lee Moore and The Resourceful ones & Roy Dawson. All broke the mould. Had to think about the Lee Moore cover for a while - Ike Strong of course. I remember coming back from Wigan and singing bits of Daybreak and Alfie Davison over and over again. My dear old mam says "Don't you know any more of them records"? Me - "no mam". Sheeat I miss me mam. Peter 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Geeselad Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Let's be aving yer! Peter cant believe I've never heard this before, ace, love it 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Peter99 Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 cant believe I've never heard this before, ace, love it Brilliant dance record buddy. Not easy to find by any means. Peter 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Nick Harrison Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 would have to be at yate john kojack harvey was always championing new releases Yes JH was at the cutting edge and rarely covered nothing up !! Which aloud us to travel back north with names and titles - with an air of up fronted detective knowledge. Not just Al Williams covered as The Masqueraders or Paris covered as Gene Mcdaniels. Jackie Beavers covered as Mel Britt. Stomp on. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Peter99 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 (edited) Plenty of contoversy around back then too obviously the huge Sam/Arthur split which most people will be aware of - we've done some good threads on here previously. Sam getting the sack at Wigan etc. Certain records appeared to be individually controversial too - the Cassanova record for Sam being one example. Peter Edited March 10, 2013 by Peter99 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Popular Post Guest Nick Harrison Posted March 10, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted March 10, 2013 So what was your first exposure to the dark side Nick? Peter Moved out into the brighter side of things - Pete. Northern is too regressive it's like owning a soulless over weight wife. Seen em out and about - hitch that ass - we may make the play off's !! 4 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Peter99 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Nice record Dave. Wasn't this Pokes cover up - something and the three (two)? way split? Peter Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
St James Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Remember Poke playing this at Cleethorpes....all I could remember was the line "they don't make lady's like you no more" so when a few weeks later Soul Bowl listed something similarly titled I bought it blind....for me that was the ultimate needle dropping moment! For once the right record! lol 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Dave Turner Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Nice record Dave. Wasn't this Pokes cover up - something and the three (two)? way split? Peter Yes mate, Eddie Richards & the Three Way Split. As I posted in another thread a few months back Poke used to send me cassettes. Here's the tracklist of one of them .. Horizon - Don't Make 'em Like You Cindie Harris - Dance me, Swing Me Al McCall - Hard Times Four Tops - Let Me Set You Free Bill Harris - Am I Cold, Am I Hot Earl White Jr - Very Special Girl Sidney Joe Qualls - I Don't Do This Geater - Breath Taking Girl Vernon Burch - Never Can Find A Way Young Devines - Ain't That Sharp (inst) Greg Diamond - Bring Back Your Love Chosen Few Band - What It Takes To Live Winston Hewitt - I'm Feeling Good Paul Thompson - Special Kind Of Woman Brothers Gilmore - I Feel A Song Raj - Something Inside Mark IV - If You Can't Tell Me Something Good King Moses - I've Got This Feeling Split Decision - Watching Out Hugh Boynton - We're Gonna Make It Mind & matter - I'm Under Your Spell Flight - Playing Your Games Maurice Jackson - True Love Is You Colors - Am I Gonna Be The One Marvin Ruffin - This Thing Called Love Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Peter99 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 (edited) Yes mate, Eddie Richards & the Three Way Split. As I posted in another thread a few months back Poke used to send me cassettes. Here's the tracklist of one of them .. Horizon - Don't Make 'em Like You Cindie Harris - Dance me, Swing Me Al McCall - Hard Times Four Tops - Let Me Set You Free Bill Harris - Am I Cold, Am I Hot Earl White Jr - Very Special Girl Sidney Joe Qualls - I Don't Do This Geater - Breath Taking Girl Vernon Burch - Never Can Find A Way Young Devines - Ain't That Sharp (inst) Greg Diamond - Bring Back Your Love Chosen Few Band - What It Takes To Live Winston Hewitt - I'm Feeling Good Paul Thompson - Special Kind Of Woman Brothers Gilmore - I Feel A Song Raj - Something Inside Mark IV - If You Can't Tell Me Something Good King Moses - I've Got This Feeling Split Decision - Watching Out Hugh Boynton - We're Gonna Make It Mind & matter - I'm Under Your Spell Flight - Playing Your Games Maurice Jackson - True Love Is You Colors - Am I Gonna Be The One Marvin Ruffin - This Thing Called Love Some awesome records on there Dave. Used to love his sets early 80's - second time round for him. Forgot about a few on that list - nice one buddy. Peter Edited March 10, 2013 by Peter99 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jim G Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Blackpool Mecca in the 70ts when they started the move away from 60's stuff. By mid seventies all venues were playing new releases along with 60's stuff. 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
barney Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 (edited) it hurt my ears and still does Edited March 10, 2013 by barney Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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Steve G Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Certain records appeared to be individually controversial too - the Cassanova record for Sam being one example. Peter Seized on by the anti-bodies too. The fact is that Sam played it before it got into the charts, when it was a red hot import..... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ncfc Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Flight and Horizon are probably two of the worst records to have been played on the modern scene. I know someone who found a copy of flight in states,he put it inside an lp sleeve and later went on to sell lp with 45 still inside. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Matt Male Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 I don't understand the question, so here's my attempt at an answer: Do I love 70s and early 80s northern soul like Charles Johnson, Jeffrey Osbourne, Atlantic Starr, Jan Jones, Willpower, Alfie Davison, The Montclairs, etc... - YES Do I like modern soul - NO Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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