Historical amnesia....

[paul-s 419]

Im not on here much anymore (phew I hear some say).

But, I just saw this and it inspired me to set the record straight (no pun intended.)

http://onelp.com/one-45--northern-soul/SEAN-CHAPMAN_wb_-WILLIAM-ELLIS-copy/

Now, I really like and respect Sean, he's a top bloke. But this is all so inaccurate.

It was myself and Mik Parry who owned the first two copies of this rarity in the UK and were breaking/playing it at many venues from 2004/5 onwards. It was a Soul or Nothing and DDA  standard and played out a lot by myself at many venues, including at bigger nighters like Middleton, Rugby, Lifeline etc. I sold mine to Flanny many years ago.

Got mine for £300 as I remember.

This type of historical appropriation happens a lot on the soul scene and also happened with John Harris & the Soul Sayers which I was playing out a lot around the same time (also a DDA staple) and when there was only me doing that in the UK (I had gone all the way to OZ to trade a copy for Bernetia Miller).

Have top 2020!

[Blackpoolsoul 713]

Paul, the fact that you have laid down these comments, indicates to me that you might be a "little" narked and so you should be

If something is wrong it should be corrected

I had my early DJ career start hi-jacked by another DJ (for his website) of all things (and he was my best mate too)

Sadly claim to playing records first is a common subject and usually unreliable anyway, so I would contact Sean and get him to change it

By the way do you know who Jonathan Capree is ? it was a pseudonym

[Chalky 14,219]

3 hours ago, paul-s said:

Im not on here much anymore (phew I hear some say).

But, I just saw this and it inspired me to set the record straight (no pun intended.)

http://onelp.com/one-45--northern-soul/SEAN-CHAPMAN_wb_-WILLIAM-ELLIS-copy/

Now, I really like and respect Sean, he's a top bloke. But this is all so inaccurate.

It was myself and Mik Parry who owned the first two copies of this rarity in the UK and were breaking/playing it at many venues from 2004/5 onwards. It was a Soul or Nothing and DDA  standard and played out a lot by myself at many venues, including at bigger nighters like Middleton, Rugby, Lifeline etc. I sold mine to Flanny many years ago.

Got mine for £300 as I remember.

This type of historical appropriation happens a lot on the soul scene and also happened with John Harris & the Soul Sayers which I was playing out a lot around the same time (also a DDA staple) and when there was only me doing that in the UK (I had gone all the way to OZ to trade a copy for Bernetia Miller).

Have top 2020!

Sadly far too many are rewriting history.  I'm forever correcting people, simply as I like to see credit where credit is deserved

[Chalky 14,219]

Hamitton Movement, big for 5 or 6 years?  You can tell some of these never go anywhere.

[Andybellwood 2,394]

4 hours ago, paul-s said:

Im not on here much anymore (phew I hear some say).

But, I just saw this and it inspired me to set the record straight (no pun intended.)

http://onelp.com/one-45--northern-soul/SEAN-CHAPMAN_wb_-WILLIAM-ELLIS-copy/

Now, I really like and respect Sean, he's a top bloke. But this is all so inaccurate.

It was myself and Mik Parry who owned the first two copies of this rarity in the UK and were breaking/playing it at many venues from 2004/5 onwards. It was a Soul or Nothing and DDA  standard and played out a lot by myself at many venues, including at bigger nighters like Middleton, Rugby, Lifeline etc. I sold mine to Flanny many years ago.

Got mine for £300 as I remember.

This type of historical appropriation happens a lot on the soul scene and also happened with John Harris & the Soul Sayers which I was playing out a lot around the same time (also a DDA staple) and when there was only me doing that in the UK (I had gone all the way to OZ to trade a copy for Bernetia Miller).

Have top 2020!

Good to have you back on here Paul. 

As for Soul or Nothing , we managed it a few times - refreshingly progressive and opened our eyes to some incrediable 'soul' from great djs breaking the 'same old' mould . Light years ahead and just a shame we've never found any other venture with a similar approach in recent years ...THANK YOU AND ALL INVOLVED . 

Edited December 30, 2019 by Andybellwood

[Blackpoolsoul 713]

12 minutes ago, Chalky said:

Hamitton Movement, big for 5 or 6 years?  You can tell some of these never go anywhere.

This is him anyway under his alias Jonathan Capree

 

Edited December 30, 2019 by Blackpoolsoul

[Tlscapital 647]

To shout to be the FIRST to spun any record is...  And evidently never TRUE ! Vindicative Selfie Fake News ? 

To claim to be the 'first' to highlight a record on a NOrTHErN SOUL dance floor can be something  Maybe... If ever.

[Ezzie Brown 391]

4 hours ago, paul-s said:

Im not on here much anymore (phew I hear some say).

But, I just saw this and it inspired me to set the record straight (no pun intended.)

http://onelp.com/one-45--northern-soul/SEAN-CHAPMAN_wb_-WILLIAM-ELLIS-copy/

Now, I really like and respect Sean, he's a top bloke. But this is all so inaccurate.

It was myself and Mik Parry who owned the first two copies of this rarity in the UK and were breaking/playing it at many venues from 2004/5 onwards. It was a Soul or Nothing and DDA  standard and played out a lot by myself at many venues, including at bigger nighters like Middleton, Rugby, Lifeline etc. I sold mine to Flanny many years ago.

Got mine for £300 as I remember.

This type of historical appropriation happens a lot on the soul scene and also happened with John Harris & the Soul Sayers which I was playing out a lot around the same time (also a DDA staple) and when there was only me doing that in the UK (I had gone all the way to OZ to trade a copy for Bernetia Miller).

Have top 2020!

all above is correct..people like paul and mik blazed a trail far ahead of most of the scene and i for one enjoyed listening  and dancing to them do it

[Geeselad 1,335]

1 hour ago, Chalky said:

Hamitton Movement, big for 5 or 6 years?  You can tell some of these never go anywhere.

[Chalky 14,219]

53 minutes ago, Geeselad said:

you need to take summat for that 

Edited December 30, 2019 by Chalky

[Godzilla 1,138]

2 hours ago, Blackpoolsoul said:

This is him anyway under his alias Jonathan Capree

 

Excellent info!

https://nylamusicstudios.com/

 

[Blackpoolsoul 713]

1 minute ago, Godzilla said:

Excellent info!

https://nylamusicstudios.com/

 

You too for searching, isn't the internet a wonderful place sometimes

Johnny Capers Jr.

Same Mr Capers behind these

 

[mark b 232]

On 30/12/2019 at 05:38, paul-s said:

Im not on here much anymore (phew I hear some say).

But, I just saw this and it inspired me to set the record straight (no pun intended.)

http://onelp.com/one-45--northern-soul/SEAN-CHAPMAN_wb_-WILLIAM-ELLIS-copy/

Now, I really like and respect Sean, he's a top bloke. But this is all so inaccurate.

It was myself and Mik Parry who owned the first two copies of this rarity in the UK and were breaking/playing it at many venues from 2004/5 onwards. It was a Soul or Nothing and DDA  standard and played out a lot by myself at many venues, including at bigger nighters like Middleton, Rugby, Lifeline etc. I sold mine to Flanny many years ago.

Got mine for £300 as I remember.

This type of historical appropriation happens a lot on the soul scene and also happened with John Harris & the Soul Sayers which I was playing out a lot around the same time (also a DDA staple) and when there was only me doing that in the UK (I had gone all the way to OZ to trade a copy for Bernetia Miller).

Have top 2020! hi paul didnt Adam have it also covered up originally or it may have been you who played it it was at one of steve catos nights i first heard it played

 

[Billy Jo Jim Bob 414]

On ‎30‎/‎12‎/‎2019 at 05:38, paul-s said:

Im not on here much anymore (phew I hear some say).

But, I just saw this and it inspired me to set the record straight (no pun intended.)

http://onelp.com/one-45--northern-soul/SEAN-CHAPMAN_wb_-WILLIAM-ELLIS-copy/

Now, I really like and respect Sean, he's a top bloke. But this is all so inaccurate.

It was myself and Mik Parry who owned the first two copies of this rarity in the UK and were breaking/playing it at many venues from 2004/5 onwards. It was a Soul or Nothing and DDA  standard and played out a lot by myself at many venues, including at bigger nighters like Middleton, Rugby, Lifeline etc. I sold mine to Flanny many years ago.

Got mine for £300 as I remember.

This type of historical appropriation happens a lot on the soul scene and also happened with John Harris & the Soul Sayers which I was playing out a lot around the same time (also a DDA staple) and when there was only me doing that in the UK (I had gone all the way to OZ to trade a copy for Bernetia Miller).

Have top 2020!

Unfortunately Paul revisionism is part of the scene. It makes me laugh with threads on here about "who was the first to play XXX or YYY" as a) it doesn't really matter and b) 95% of the time credit goes to the wrong person. If folks want to do a bit of willy waving I'd just let them get on with it, as my old boss used to say "smile, say yes and think b******s".

ATB

 

[Mike 4,673]

On 30/12/2019 at 05:38, paul-s said:

Im not on here much anymore (phew I hear some say).

But, I just saw this and it inspired me to set the record straight (no pun intended.)

http://onelp.com/one-45--northern-soul/SEAN-CHAPMAN_wb_-WILLIAM-ELLIS-copy/

Now, I really like and respect Sean, he's a top bloke. But this is all so inaccurate.

It was myself and Mik Parry who owned the first two copies of this rarity in the UK and were breaking/playing it at many venues from 2004/5 onwards. It was a Soul or Nothing and DDA  standard and played out a lot by myself at many venues, including at bigger nighters like Middleton, Rugby, Lifeline etc. I sold mine to Flanny many years ago.

Got mine for £300 as I remember.

This type of historical appropriation happens a lot on the soul scene and also happened with John Harris & the Soul Sayers which I was playing out a lot around the same time (also a DDA staple) and when there was only me doing that in the UK (I had gone all the way to OZ to trade a copy for Bernetia Miller).

Have top 2020!

new years day a  reflective time so reflecting...

I can remember you picking it up at Piercebridge event off AD, can even remember myself writing the label details down

this was the one yep?

 

[Len 3,712]

Sean is a modest fella, and wouldn't for one moment knowingly take credit for someone else's discovery / or hijack someone else's record that they happen to be championing at any given time (Which does often happen)

Quote off the article from Sean......"although I’ve djed over 30 years nearly all the records have always been spun by somebody else".....

Sean's just picked up on this particular record at a different time, and to be fair, it seems he has broken it to different audiences, of whom associate him with it - Sean being the first person they have heard play it.

That said, I also like facts to be correct, and I'm sure Sean does too.

All the best,

Len 

[Tlscapital 647]

Not to offend or to be prejudiced to anyone nor even Sean specifically. But in these pathetic day and ages of glorified me, myself and I through tintenet where ANYONE can stand on the stage under the spotlight and claim their passion of and/or for music, records or themselves; words count !

me as a dj above everything else that I’ve done it’s breaking this record week in week out when no one else was playing it and making it what I think is a monster today

Those are ALSO his words ! The ones that started the fuss.

Edited January 1 by Tlscapital

[Blackpoolsoul 713]

25 minutes ago, Tlscapital said:

Not to offend or to be prejudiced to anyone nor even Sean specifically. But in these pathetic day and ages of glorified me, myself and I through tintenet where ANYONE can stand on the stage under the spotlight and claim their passion of and/or for music, records or themselves; words count !

me as a dj above everything else that I’ve done it’s breaking this record week in week out when no one else was playing it and making it what I think is a monster today

Those are ALSO his words ! The ones that started the fuss.

It's put in a clever way and to imply, just like a company saying "we have no plans at the moment to make redundancies" and then doing it a month later.

My advice is to simply ask Sean and as others have said he will perhaps change the wording

[Len 3,712]

32 minutes ago, Tlscapital said:

Not to offend or to be prejudiced to anyone nor even Sean specifically. But in these pathetic day and ages of glorified me, myself and I through tintenet where ANYONE can stand on the stage under the spotlight and claim their passion of and/or for music, records or themselves; words count !

me as a dj above everything else that I’ve done it’s breaking this record week in week out when no one else was playing it and making it what I think is a monster today

Those are ALSO his words ! The ones that started the fuss.

I know exactly what you mean, and heartily agree ref 'me, myself and I through the tinternet' - It's stomach churning at times, it really is.

I can see how what Sean states shown in your above post could come across as maybe a bit of a 'brag', but in this case, Sean is relaying an achievement he is proud of (not bragging about it) I suppose because there's so much self promotion that goes on via the internet, that in itself stops genuine people daring to state anything they are proud to have done.

Len 

[Tlscapital 647]

39 minutes ago, Blackpoolsoul said:

It's put in a clever way and to imply, just like a company saying "we have no plans at the moment to make redundancies" and then doing it a month later.

My advice is to simply ask Sean and as others have said he will perhaps change the wording

Truly nothing clever on my behalf. Just my reader's point of vue. And unlike any company I have no intention nor power actually to change anything in anyone's life and go against my word if ever I did. No twist nor masterplan behind my words. No intention to do else. 

If I was friend with Sean, I would tell him, as I do with all my friends, what I truly think they're acting, doing and saying wrong IMHO. Just as I expect from those with goodwill towards me. Only I am not friend with Sean. Just a reader who comments the OP on here 

[Hooker1951 824]

Has I’ve stated in other topics when asked what records I’ve ever discovered my answer has been that you would have to be vain and narcissistic to claim that you did, It’s a fact that someone could possibly break a record in to make it a success but to state that that yourself played it first time sounds ludicrous and frankly a little childish and boasting it’s up to someone else to say that you played it first or is it that it’s the first time they heard it when you played it. I was always happy just for someone who had knowledge about Soul music coming to you and asking what a record was that you’d just played and that they liked it, that should be sufficient praise, it was always enough for me , but to claim that you were first is a pretty big statement and trust me somebody would have played it first maybe at the wrong venue or to the wrong audience but it would have been played. You can be the DJ that makes a record popular but you can never honestly say you played it first, Like the old Gunfighters of the Wild West used to say there is always somebody faster

Happy New Year

ML

[Tlscapital 647]

57 minutes ago, Len said:

I know exactly what you mean, and heartily agree ref 'me, myself and I through the tinternet' - It's stomach churning at times, it really is.

I can see how what Sean states shown in your above post could come across as maybe a bit of a 'brag', but in this case, Sean is relaying an achievement he is proud of (not bragging about it) I suppose because there's so much self promotion that goes on via the internet, that in itself stops genuine people daring to state anything they are proud to have done.

Len 

OK Len, yes, I agree that it could comme across as... But it's not the little bragging if ever that is at stake here I understand. Mind the OP just presenting his bit on this. It's the fact around the who's who "discovered" and "broke" a record if ever that is in wonder... The term MONSTER bugs me some FWIW. Rare record that has it's fans. Commanding big tickets evidently but still I won't call it a "monster".

And I don't think there is such a thing as MONSTROUS records on today's scene(S). Or is 'Jeanette' that...  If it was a proper term maybe in the seventies where a "young" (commercial) Northern scene needed infatuated term to define themselves to rival with other Gods, it's not by today "standards" anymore. Or is it ? Most of the time those MONSTROUS records where MONSTROUS indeed. LOL !

Still there are ways, words and sentencing to be used that could tell the story otherwise without betraying the facts or even the ego. And you're right, there are as many bad reader's out there who will critic what one is saying (or not) by twisting the OP intentions... After what some can feel not bothered anymore to come in peace and comment to be left with post-traumatic syndrome 

[paul-s 419]

5 hours ago, Mike said:

new years day a  reflective time so reflecting...

I can remember you picking it up at Piercebridge event off AD, can even remember myself writing the label details down

this was the one yep?

 

Hi Mike,

I picked it up of Steve Smith (I think thats his name, Gloucester way) at a different event (the specifics elude me though). I was djing there and as soon as I put it on the turntable that night it packed the floor. 

Enjoying this thread/debate and thanks for the info about the singer which I didn't know. At one stage I thought he may be blue eyed as the B side is not very good (to my ears) and  I also heard another release by Jonathan Capree that was poor and a bit country sounding as I remember (again to my ears).

Edited January 1 by paul-s
typo

[paul-s 419]

On 30/12/2019 at 10:27, Tlscapital said:

To shout to be the FIRST to spun any record is...  And evidently never TRUE ! Vindicative Selfie Fake News ? 

To claim to be the 'first' to highlight a record on a NOrTHErN SOUL dance floor can be something  Maybe... If ever.

 

On 31/12/2019 at 15:09, Billy Jo Jim Bob said:

Unfortunately Paul revisionism is part of the scene. It makes me laugh with threads on here about "who was the first to play XXX or YYY" as a) it doesn't really matter and b) 95% of the time credit goes to the wrong person. If folks want to do a bit of willy waving I'd just let them get on with it, as my old boss used to say "smile, say yes and think b******s".

ATB

 

Yes, I agree mate. Just, on the odd occasion, its just too blatant and ridiculous and I had a bit of spare time to write about it. Plus the thread turned up info about the singer that I was not aware of, so worth it!

[Baz Atkinson 280]

I’d say the last 6 to 8 years this has happened more and more particularly on Facebook where every man / women and dog played discovered and then sold it for £££££££ is rife ! 
 

This is definitely the new Information Age and happens a lot to records that we’re first broke on the more upfront scene a word I’m reluctant to use anymore as it’s definitely imho “lost its clout”. 

It’s similar practice to the gate  crashing of advertising on other sites which is always disrespectful. 
 

The only plus you can take from this scenario is been at the events to validate records been broke and this in the past was easy because it was mainly venue led  ie casino Stafford etc . 
 
Putting DJs names to discoveries is part of the fabric of the scene and part of the magic imho and why not challenge it, the slog  put in to turning up the discoveries justifies it ! 

[Geeselad 1,335]

18 hours ago, Baz Atkinson said:

I’d say the last 6 to 8 years this has happened more and more particularly on Facebook where every man / women and dog played discovered and then sold it for £££££££ is rife ! 
 

This is definitely the new Information Age and happens a lot to records that we’re first broke on the more upfront scene a word I’m reluctant to use anymore as it’s definitely imho “lost its clout”. 

It’s similar practice to the gate  crashing of advertising on other sites which is always disrespectful. 
 

The only plus you can take from this scenario is been at the events to validate records been broke and this in the past was easy because it was mainly venue led  ie casino Stafford etc . 
 
Putting DJs names to discoveries is part of the fabric of the scene and part of the magic imho and why not challenge it, the slog  put in to turning up the discoveries justifies it ! 

Think you hit the mail on the head here. It's the lack of central venues that causes the problem of tagging a record to a dj. There is just no cohesion anywhere on whats left of the scene. It just seems like lots of factions all pulling in different directions. 

Edited January 2 by Geeselad

[Winsford Soul 11,214]

You get historical amnesia when you get smashed at weekends

[Chalky 14,219]

Back in 2004/5 when Paul was breaking this, you knew who was playing what.  There wasn’t that many nighters we didn’t all attend, nor soul nights.  Lifeline had just started the year or so prior and the nighter scene wasn’t in great shape.  The main nighters were all at Sheridans, Kings Hall. Everyone who was active knew who was playing what.   It wasn’t the numerous factions we have now. 

[paul-s 419]

3 hours ago, Chalky said:

Back in 2004/5 when Paul was breaking this, you knew who was playing what.  There wasn’t that many nighters we didn’t all attend, nor soul nights.  Lifeline had just started the year or so prior and the nighter scene wasn’t in great shape.  The main nighters were all at Sheridans, Kings Hall. Everyone who was active knew who was playing what.   It wasn’t the numerous factions we have now. 

Spot on!

[Winsford Soul 11,214]

4 hours ago, Chalky said:

Back in 2004/5 when Paul was breaking this, you knew who was playing what.  There wasn’t that many nighters we didn’t all attend, nor soul nights.  Lifeline had just started the year or so prior and the nighter scene wasn’t in great shape.  The main nighters were all at Sheridans, Kings Hall. Everyone who was active knew who was playing what.   It wasn’t the numerous factions we have now. 

Karl. I must be a exception to the everyone knew who was playing what bit. It's a side of the scene that I have never ever  been bothered about , if I liked the record that was the start of the attraction then the curiosity regarding artist,  label etc came second  but regarding who played what. Not a clue, never particularly cared. 

Steve 

Edited January 2 by Winsford Soul

[paul-s 419]

44 minutes ago, Winsford Soul said:

Karl. I must be a exception to the everyone knew who was playing what bit. It's a side of the scene that I have never ever  been bothered about , if I liked the record that was the start of the attraction then the curiosity regarding artist,  label etc came second  but regarding who played what. Not a clue, never particularly cared. 

Steve 

Well, for me, knowing who was playing what dates back to the 70's when I went to particular events just to hear a particular tune(s). In order to do that you needed to know who was playing what. At DDA I once had a couple travel a very long way to hear Chick Carlton....they knew who was playing what in oder to do that and hear a very rare 45.

[Winsford Soul 11,214]

31 minutes ago, paul-s said:

Well, for me, knowing who was playing what dates back to the 70's when I went to particular events just to hear a particular tune(s). In order to do that you needed to know who was playing what. At DDA I once had a couple travel a very long way to hear Chick Carlton....they knew who was playing what in oder to do that and hear a very rare 45.

I didn't know who played what at Wigan really.  Apart from a few of Richards, ive only found out afterwards what certain Djs played when ive read books. didn't care then, don't now. 

I love the Mello Souls but haven't got a clue about who owns the few copies 

Edited January 2 by Winsford Soul

[Geeselad 1,335]

1 hour ago, Winsford Soul said:

I didn't know who played what at Wigan really.  Apart from a few of Richards, ive only found out afterwards what certain Djs played when ive read books. didn't care then, don't now. 

I love the Mello Souls but haven't got a clue about who owns the few copies 

Fair point of view, it does beg the question, why the interest in the tread then?

[Winsford Soul 11,214]

8 hours ago, Geeselad said:

Fair point of view, it does beg the question, why the interest in the tread then?

I was answering Karl's post  regarding everyone who was active at the time. Plus I'm a nosey sod

[Len 3,712]

Lots of us do care, and are very interested in who discovered what / who did the hard work of breaking what.  But there are also lots (like Steve) who are not so interested.

I remember a quote someone said a while back......."I've been doing this for over 40 years, never learnt a thing!"....... 

Len 

[Triode 367]

I've always thought the real record "discoverers" were the likes of the late John Anderson, Johnny Maship, Butch & Tim Ashibende, Dave Withers & Rod Shard & many many others......

[Len 3,712]

Not forgetting Ady Croasdell.

Discovering records is a separate thing to breaking them, although this is often 'hand in hand' of course (Discovered and broken by the same person)

Len 

[Chalky 14,219]

3 hours ago, Winsford Soul said:

I was answering Karl's post  regarding everyone who was active at the time. Plus I'm a nosey sod

I should have said many not everyone

[Tlscapital 647]

1 hour ago, Triode said:

I've always thought the real record "discoverers" were the likes of the late John Anderson, Johnny Maship, Butch & Tim Ashibende, Dave Withers & Rod Shard & many many others......

Seventies and eighties British (counting only !!!) record dealers  Now who was the first seller ever to sell that and that or that record... And I am certain none of those aforementioned will rush in such ego bigotry race.

[Winsford Soul 11,214]

2 hours ago, Len said:

Not forgetting Ady Croasdell.

Discovering records is a separate thing to breaking them, although this is often 'hand in hand' of course (Discovered and broken by the same person)

Len 

Len. I have broken 2 records in the 45 years I've been only half interested in this scene. Dropped one and snapped one

[Winsford Soul 11,214]

2 hours ago, Chalky said:

I should have said many not everyone

I also should have said that I don't remember who played them when I'm still out at the venue on the night

[Len 3,712]

1 hour ago, Tlscapital said:

Seventies and eighties British (counting only !!!) record dealers  Now who was the first seller ever to sell that and that or that record... And I am certain none of those aforementioned will rush in such ego bigotry race.

I think you're absolutely right.  As has been said, it's up to others to say if they want to credit / associate someone with a record.  There's many records I associate with certain DJs, and they are not always the first ones to play them - All part of the fond memories.

Len 

[Ezzie Brown 391]

On 01/01/2020 at 16:11, paul-s said:

Hi Mike,

I picked it up of Steve Smith (I think thats his name, Gloucester way) at a different event (the specifics elude me though). I was djing there and as soon as I put it on the turntable that night it packed the floor. 

Enjoying this thread/debate and thanks for the info about the singer which I didn't know. At one stage I thought he may be blue eyed as the B side is not very good (to my ears) and  I also heard another release by Jonathan Capree that was poor and a bit country sounding as I remember (again to my ears).

hi paul, steve smith was from gloucester and did torch wigan stafford etc, and jc is just the kind of 45 he would be finding and selling on...i saw him before xmas , he lives north of berlin, is known on the scene there  and attends the occassional niter .............ez

[Soul Inc 680]

Different Steve Smith - It was off Steve Smith that moved to Thailand

[Winsford Soul 11,214]

22 minutes ago, Soul Inc said:

Different Steve Smith - It was off Steve Smith that moved to Thailand

Im Spartacus.  That's why i called myself Winsford soul on here instead of my real name Steve Smith. We're far to common .i think that there should be a cull. 

Edited January 4 by Winsford Soul

[Colnago 475]

I know a lot of people who’ve ‘forgotten’ they didn’t go anywhere on the scene for 20-30 years.

[Chalky 14,219]

5 minutes ago, Colnago said:

I know a lot of people who’ve ‘forgotten’ they didn’t go anywhere on the scene for 20-30 years.

[WoodButcher 1,493]

9 minutes ago, Colnago said:

I know a lot of people who’ve ‘forgotten’ they didn’t go anywhere on the scene for 20-30 years.

Glad to say I don't know many of 'them' , and happy to continue not knowing them as they tend to congregate in all those venues that I avoid like the plague ... 

[Shufflin 1,890]

must be a few collectors who have stunning records in their collection that were never 'discovered' by a DJ, maybe own something amazing never played out, who knows...

pretty sure that's true, but each ego to their own

Edited January 4 by Shufflin
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[Chalky 14,219]

43 minutes ago, Shufflin said:

must be a few collectors who have stunning records in their collection that were never 'discovered' by a DJ, maybe own something amazing never played out, who knows...

pretty sure that's true, but each ego to their own

Our good mate Nick Stevenson (god rest his soul) had plenty of what we believed one offs, hated Djing and he also supplied plenty of great records for other DJs. He had a better sales box than most had Dj boxes.  He isn’t alone.  Plenty in the background with fantastic collections we know little about. 
 

But those who do put themselves up there, as one who has a great interest in the history of the scene I like to see credit given where it is due, be that as a dealer discovering or a Dj breaking the record.  There aren’t many at the top of the table who shout about their achievements, usually the opposite.  Those that shout I find usually have sod all to shout about really.     

Edited January 4 by Chalky