Whilst travelling back from Skegness in the early hours of this morning , I was listening ro Radio 2 ( as you do , unless it is a sunday morning , when it has to be R4 and the Archers omnibus ) , when the presenter announced that the results of the " Radio 2 Icon of the last 40 years " , were to be announced on Sunday afternoon , during their celebrations for the 40th anniversary for / of Radio 2 .....

This got me thinking ; though it started for many ( yours included ) several years before 1967 , we are celebrating 40 years of the Soul / Northern / Rare / Modern - call it what you will - scene in 2007 .....

Who would you consider to be the Icon of / for the scene over the last 40 years , and has representated , or represent what stands for ?

In respect of this , I am putting forward several names who I think are worthy canidates .....

Roger Eagle

Ian Levine

Soul Sam

Mary Chapman

Randy Cozens

Over to you ......

Malc Burton

Edited September 29, 200717 yr by Malc Burton

huh huh

Edited September 29, 200717 yr by moldie

Whilst travelling back from Skegness in the early hours of this morning , I was listening ro Radio 2 ( as you do , unless it is a sunday morning , when it has to be R4 and the Archers omnibus ) , when the presenter announced that the results of the " Radio 2 Icon of the last 40 years " , were to be announced on Sunday afternoon , during their celebrations for the 40th anniversary for / of Radio 2 .....

This got me thinking ; though it started for many ( yours included ) several years before 1967 , we are celebrating 40 years of the Soul / Northern / Rare / Modern - call it what you will - scene in 2007 .....

Who would you consider to be the Icon of / for the scene over the last 40 years , and has representated , or represent what stands for ?

In respect of this , I am putting forward several names who I think are worthy canidates .....

Roger Eagle

Ian Levine

Soul Sam

Mary Chapman

Randy Cozens

Over to you ......

Malc Burton

Well I do think that Randy for one would have hated being put on a pedestal like that, and I don't think Sam would be too keen on it either. Icon is such a naff term to describe blokes with records. Sorry Malc but that's how I see it. The Icons to me are the singers.

If you said who has most influenced your musical tastes over the last 40 years, then fine, and on that basis I'd include Randy, Richard S, Sam, John A, Butch etc.

Steve

Gotta be Simon Sousson. He conned everbody!!

ROD

Colin Curtis

Colin Curtis

i thought you might have gone for bearsy simon

Malc,

because I'm a new kid on the scene, I didn't have the privilege to know many of the mentioned people...

My choice is Butch...

Roccia

Edited September 29, 200717 yr by Roccia

malc why have you included yourself in this list...surely a bit bigheaded

Very funny ...... NOT .

I always put my name several lines down from any reply / posting : if you decided to alter the text to include me , and therefore have a laugh , that is up to you ; If you knew me , your statement could not be further from the truth .....

In respect of the Icons should be the singer / singers whatever , and not individual people , I intended the basis of thre topic to mean the contribution the respective people had made over the last 40 years .....

Malc Burton

Very funny ...... NOT .

I always put my name several lines down from any reply / posting : if you decided to alter the text to include me , and therefore have a laugh , that is up to you ; If you knew me , your statement could not be further from the truth .....

In respect of the Icons should be the singer / singers whatever , and not individual people , I intended the basis of thre topic to mean the contribution the respective people had made over the last 40 years .....

Malc Burton

So Dave Godin would be a good choice...

Edited September 29, 200717 yr by Roccia

So Dave Godin would be a good choice...

Well chosen My friend ....

I can just see David cursing me from wherever he is - and calling me several choice names - for not including him ...

Malc Burton

Keith Minshull would be a good choice for me

If all the guys mentioned wrote a book about their exploits and you could only buy one, which one would it be?

For me personally it's no contest. - John Anderson.

The only one for me and probably for most of the thirty somethings....can only be the man fron Harboro to me the rest, are just djs. Ady brought the music to a whole new generation

Edited September 29, 200717 yr by reg

If all the guys mentioned wrote a book about their exploits and you could only buy one, which one would it be?

For me personally it's no contest. - John Anderson.

I agree 100% with this ......

JA needs to tell his story - warts and all , with no names changed to protect identities or egos .....

Malc Burton

Ady Croasdell has to be up there...........I know he would hate it & make some wise crack, but his personal contribution to the scene cannot be ignored, not just as a promoter & DJ, but as label manager for Kent.

I concur with young David too, John Anderson must be some where near to the top of the list of people who have helped shape the Rare Soul Scene for years & years..............& there really has to be a book there.

Russ

For me personally it's no contest. - John Anderson.

Agreed; he's forgotten more than most of us know. And I've heard more good records in Kings Lynn, than anywhere else.

Agreed; he's forgotten more than most of us know. And I've heard more good records in Kings Lynn, than anywhere else.

He gets my vote too would also have to propose Mr Manship as a worthy candidate.

Derek

If all the guys mentioned wrote a book about their exploits and you could only buy one, which one would it be?

For me personally it's no contest. - John Anderson.

I would read a,Ian Levine biography,by Colin Curtis,now that would be a read

Kev

Well I do think that Randy for one would have hated being put on a pedestal like that, and I don't think Sam would be too keen on it either. Icon is such a naff term to describe blokes with records. Sorry Malc but that's how I see it. The Icons to me are the singers.

If you said who has most influenced your musical tastes over the last 40 years, then fine, and on that basis I'd include Randy, Richard S, Sam, John A, Butch etc.

Steve

True, except for me the icons are not the singers, but those little black vinyl discs. I arn't really bothered who sung 'em, 'cos its the whole package, the production, tempo, arrangement, backing singing, label design etc. It's the sound thats iconic, not who played 'em at what venue.

sam

True, except for me the icons are not the singers, but those little black vinyl discs. I arn't really bothered who sung 'em, 'cos its the whole package, the production, tempo, arrangement, backing singing, label design etc. It's the sound thats iconic, not who played 'em at what venue.

TREVSKI i must say i agree with you on this

i thought you might have gone for bearsy simon

Agreed; he's forgotten more than most of us know. And I've heard more good records in Kings Lynn, than anywhere else.

Of course I'd put John Anderson down as a Soul Music icon , dont think he likes Northern that much ?

Edited September 30, 200717 yr by Simon M

Of course I'd put John Anderson down as a Soul music icon , dont think he likes Northern that much ?

He does like 60s soul - so things like James Carr, Bobby Bland, O'Jays, Sam WIlliams etc.

He does like 60s soul - so things like James Carr, Bobby Bland, O'Jays, Sam WIlliams etc.

Hey Steve , Im north of the river tonight Hemel Hempsted

Ain't it obvious ?................................................................................

............................................................Ken

Cheers Paco

I agree 100% with this ......

JA needs to tell his story - warts and all , with no names changed to protect identities or egos .....

Malc Burton

John did 2 or 3 great interviews for the magazine Big Daddy a few years back . Best Wishes ,Eddie

John did 2 or 3 great interviews for the magazine Big Daddy a few years back . Best Wishes ,Eddie

He did Eddie, but they hardly scratched the surface. There's great stories still to be told. Think John should sit down and write a book

Who would you consider to be the Icon of / for the scene over the last 40 years , and has representated , or represent what stands for ?

Malc Burton

Ian Levine - for shifting the Wheel crowd over to the Blackpool Mecca, getting Jebb

to play Northern, getting Les Cokell as DJ and very much putting NS on the map. Had

this not have happened the NS scene may well have dissipated into oblivion. Let's not

forget the huge amount of records he brought over from the US that got people spinning

quite literally on the dance floors.

Alan S - unsung hero from the Cats who was discovering and playing rare NS stuff

whilst the remainder of the UK soul fans were still tuned into Chuck Wood.

Richard Searling - the voice of sanity during the white pop blitz in the 70T's. Later

with the Ritz and jazz FM.

Trevor Churchill - one mega soul fan working for EMI and getting some cracking NS

tunes released, a shamefully modest man. How many of us started playing those UK

releases and wondering where and how we could hear of the same?.

Chris L

He did Eddie, but they hardly scratched the surface. There's great stories still to be told. Think John should sit down and write a book

& if he wanted to save himself the grief of sitting down in front of a laptop, I'd offer myself as his ghost writer (un negro in spanish). you might guess what my fee would be.

M

John Anderson for me.

Discovering new sounds and getting them aired is what it all about isn't it?

Assuming the chosen one would have been around 40 years ago and still around now, and have been influencial during the whole time, it shortens the list down.

There have been many icons who have had a good 10 year stretch, but the full 40?

Having only been 'on the scene' for about 31 of the last 40 years, I suppose I cannot really have a vote, but some names seem to have done the whole bit like Minshull & Evison.

I think if Edwin Starr was still with us he would have been a good contender.

Ed

Russ Winstanley

Russ Winstanley

As someone who was around in your influentual days on the scene always interested in your views, can you expand on why you think Russ qualifies?

I would ask this question to anyone posting, rather than just name someone how about we give a few reasons why they qualify.

As someone who was around in your influentual days on the scene always interested in your views, can you expand on why you think Russ qualifies?

I would ask this question to anyone posting, rather than just name someone how about we give a few reasons why they qualify.

I think Phil is just trying to wind everyone up - he's from the wrong side of town ya know.....Steve

Ain't it obvious ?................................................................................

............................................................Ken

Cheers Paco

Anne Fetermine

Rit Lin

Chalkies

Sid Dospan

top GEARzers

I think Phil is just trying to wind everyone up - he's from the wrong side of town ya know.....Steve

Not a wind up at all. His self-belief (egotism?) was resonsible for (still) one of the best venues of all time both for sounds played and atmosphere. Yes there was some rubbish played from time to time (true of every venue I've ever been to), there were unsavoury elements there from time to time too (but we all can change ). If individual elements of "what makes a great venue" were looked at in isolation, then The Casino would not come top in all of them or even many. But when looked at as a whole The Casino wins hands down. And for his involvement in that iconic, magical part of Northern Soul history he gets my vote.

Phil

Ain't it obvious ?................................................................................

............................................................Ken

Cheers Paco

Just seen this,

Not a wind up at all. His self-belief (egotism?) was resonsible for (still) one of the best venues of all time both for sounds played and atmosphere. Yes there was some rubbish played from time to time (true of every venue I've ever been to), there were unsavoury elements there from time to time too (but we all can change ). If individual elements of "what makes a great venue" were looked at in isolation, then The Casino would not come top in all of them or even many. But when looked at as a whole The Casino wins hands down. And for his involvement in that iconic, magical part of Northern Soul history he gets my vote.

Phil

Naah............don't buy it, my reply was by far the best one Phil..........................

Naah............don't buy it, my reply was by far the best one Phil..........................

Yeah. But you're older than me and you have a chicken for an avatar so your reply doesn't count

PC Dick of the Soul Police

Yeah. But you're older than me and you have a chicken for an avatar so your reply doesn't count

PC Dick of the Soul Police

Normally I would sit here and fight you to death with me handbag but off to Prague

int mornin and remember it's already way past my bedtime, 23.16 here in sunny Belgium.

Normally I would sit here and fight you to death with me handbag but off to Prague

int mornin and remember it's already way past my bedtime, 23.16 here in sunny Belgium.

Have a good time, and don't be listening to no choons what ain't on the "list"

PC Dick

I think we did this before and the winner was John Anderson..and rightly so in my book. A true gent and very modest about what he has given the soul world.

All round top man....

Chris

I think we did this before and the winner was John Anderson..and rightly so in my book. A true gent and very modest about what he has given the soul world.

All round top man....

Chris

Totally Agree ...... John Anderson

Edited October 6, 200717 yr by 45cellar

Whilst travelling back from Skegness in the early hours of this morning , I was listening ro Radio 2 ( as you do , unless it is a sunday morning , when it has to be R4 and the Archers omnibus ) , when the presenter announced that the results of the " Radio 2 Icon of the last 40 years " , were to be announced on Sunday afternoon , during their celebrations for the 40th anniversary for / of Radio 2 .....

This got me thinking ; though it started for many ( yours included ) several years before 1967 , we are celebrating 40 years of the Soul / Northern / Rare / Modern - call it what you will - scene in 2007 .....

Who would you consider to be the Icon of / for the scene over the last 40 years , and has representated , or represent what stands for ?

In respect of this , I am putting forward several names who I think are worthy canidates .....

Roger Eagle

Ian Levine

Soul Sam

Mary Chapman

Randy Cozens

Over to you ......

Malc Burton

For me it would have to be Edwin Starr...Many of the names mentioned came and went ,but Edwin Stayed with us untill the day he passed on..a true gent and a great embassador for this scene of ours..still missed, a great man

Bazza

Edited October 6, 200717 yr by bazza

Find it hard to come up with just one name. There are many who have made a contribution to the scene, some more so than others, some without the recognition they deserve but each and everyone has played their part in making this scene what it is.

Find it hard to come up with just one name. There are many who have made a contribution to the scene, some more so than others, some without the recognition they deserve but each and everyone has played their part in making this scene what it is.

So true chalky

now what about characters on the scene ,now this should be fun

Whilst travelling back from Skegness in the early hours of this morning , I was listening ro Radio 2 ( as you do , unless it is a sunday morning , when it has to be R4 and the Archers omnibus ) , when the presenter announced that the results of the " Radio 2 Icon of the last 40 years " , were to be announced on Sunday afternoon , during their celebrations for the 40th anniversary for / of Radio 2 .....

This got me thinking ; though it started for many ( yours included ) several years before 1967 , we are celebrating 40 years of the Soul / Northern / Rare / Modern - call it what you will - scene in 2007 .....

Who would you consider to be the Icon of / for the scene over the last 40 years , and has representated , or represent what stands for ?

In respect of this , I am putting forward several names who I think are worthy canidates .....

Roger Eagle

Ian Levine

Soul Sam

Mary Chapman

Randy Cozens

Over to you ......

Malc Burton

Actually selecting just one person from the last 40 years is a daunting task Malc. What I think could work, would be to put together a list of key contributors in the various decades over the entire period.

For instance, the 60's would almost definitely have to include:

Roger Eagle

Trevor Churchill

Dave Godin

Brian '45' Phillips

Etc, etc

And the 70's

John Anderson

Ian Levine

Colin Curtis

Soul Sam

Mary Chapman

Etc, etc - you get the drift. In fact it would make a really nice project for someone who runs a magazine to do an 'icon a month' article and then turn it into a book sometime in the future.

There's not enough documentation or first-hand accounts of the 60's era and even some of the info from the early 70's can be sketchy. Plus, as we know too well, none of us are getting any younger, so it would be great to do a definitive project which covered the whole era methinks....

Best,

Ian D

Only my opinion....

Musically, Searling.

But in reality, the embodiement of the cuthroat, diehard soulie has to be, Pete Lawson.

Edited October 21, 200717 yr by Barry

No Guy Hennigan !

The Stafford crowd have to be mentioned , there would be no scene without them .

In the 80's Guy had better records in his toilet than most 'DJs' , one i remember was Bobby Hutton Come see right there in his bog.

Dave Godin, bought most things blind on his recommendation, very rarely disapppointed.

Bob Foster - All things Detroit, and a massive influence on the North Wales scene and people in the know.

Brain ''45' Philips - Still have all my old lists, just wish I had the money at the time.