Don't know whether this has been done before (if it has apologies) but, as such a great very rare record, can anyone give me any further information/history, i.e.

when, where discovered?

by whom?

how many known copies in existence?

where first played at?

and who else besides Butch has got em?

IMO top record on the scene today

Its as messy as the Servicemen - Are you angry

But just as brilliant - Now thats what I call Northern Soul! Stomping Crazy All over the place Music with Vocals that That strain as though he is going to shite himslef any minute.

Truly wonderful record and I defy anyone not to dance to it or tap their feet.

been after this since butch first played it back in 86 awesome sound and shit rare too

as for dick charles acetate,i don,t think so,thats out of new york,the mellow souls ain,t thats for sure

One of the best Northern Soul records ever discovered, its got everything you want in a dancer. Messy...who gives a f*ck, soul as it should be, from the heart, the group giving it everything and more and not summat practiced and polished in a studio

One of the best Northern Soul records ever discovered, its got everything you want in a dancer. Messy...who gives a f*ck, soul as it should be, from the heart, the group giving it everything and more and not summat practiced and polished in a studio

well said chalky.............

I don't think you could call it a truly great soul record but it's a F****ng fantastically great Northern Soul record, one of the greatest and sorry Epic mate I don't think your rarity argument holds on this, it has a dance floor reaction unlike many other records, majority of whom are unaware of any rarity as they stampede past anyone in their way to get to the dancefloor,

I truly believe if you don't get this you don't get Northern Soul, in one of my opinionated statements.

Closely followed by the Parliaments Rainy Day for the best dancefloor reaction as an unknown/semi known, and it still has it now years and years later.

It probably is my generations Job Opening to be honest for Northern Soul

"If you don't get this you don't get Northern Soul, in one of my opinionated statements"

Just One of Your Opinionated Statements Jock..........................

I did not know you were opionated Jock............

In My Opinion, You Ought To Answer YOUR PHONE

BEST

Bully

Edited December 3, 200816 yr by Bully Boy

I agree with you Kev - when I first heard it I was like woaaaaaah

Same here - knocked me on me erse on first hearing the Del larks c/u. Messy as messy thing and that is a part of what makes it blinding, smash the floor up Northern Soul.

For me nothing to do with rarity, just a great dance record which you can't half get into on the floor. Been a while since I've heard it out and it had me pogoing at the last 100 club

"If you don't get this you don't get Northern Soul, in one of my opinionated statements"

Just One of Your Opinionated Statements Jock..........................

I did not know you were opionated Jock............

In My Opinion, You Ought To Answer YOUR PHONE

BEST

Bully

:D

Awright mate, sorry about that, first time you phoned I was at footie second time my battery had ran out, and then I forgot!!

Will call you in next couple of days, just off for my anger management class on the tennis court!!

Been a while since I've heard it out and it had me pogoing at the last 100 club

I was pogoing beside you, I just had more balance, slightly!

Hope you are wll mate and the old Asthma is getting better, see you soon?

Fortunate to hear Kenny spin it then the week after and an hours drive away hear it again from Kenny.......sadly may have to wait an age now to hear it again.....sounds like these ,awful in quality some would say have that magic for me and are right up my street !

it is a messy raw record thats for sure but bloody awsome

i once likened it a bit to Ed & Ernies - Indication, and got slaughtered, why i dont know because both are messy but quality in different ways, ones rare the other aint

Eddie Hubbard has a very old Rob Marriot tape without a track listing. I can remember years ago; the two of us listening to it to try and identify the tracks. We both commented at the time "that's Butch's cover up!" Obviously neither of us knew who it was back then.

Can anyone shed any light on whether Rob had a copy from that time, probably early - mid Eighties ?

Cheers........... Tom. Banbury.

One of the best Northern Soul records ever discovered, its got everything you want in a dancer. Messy...who gives a f*ck, soul as it should be, from the heart, the group giving it everything and more and not summat practiced and polished in a studio

GOOD POINT SUMMING UP ITS APPEAL REALLY,ITS ONE ALONG WITH MAN O MAN THAT REALLY EPITOMISES THE NORTHERN SOUND IMHO,OH AND JESSE JAMES WITH THE DRUM ROLE,ITS THE RAWNESS AND MESINESS THAT GIVE IT THE DEFINITE EDGE.

BAZ A

Eddie Hubbard has a very old Rob Marriot tape without a track listing. I can remember years ago; the two of us listening to it to try and identify the tracks. We both commented at the time "that's Butch's cover up!" Obviously neither of us knew who it was back then.

Can anyone shed any light on whether Rob had a copy from that time, probably early - mid Eighties ?

Cheers........... Tom. Banbury.

KICKED ABOUT ALOT WITH ROD THEN TO MY KNOWLEDGE NO ,HE DISCOVERED ALOT OF OTHERS HOWEVER ROUND ABOUT THAT TIME.!!!

BAZ A

I still can't find any mess, although I have found a reference to his soul brother and some awesome bass brass coming in after the sax break well not right at the end but quiet close. A great backing track well laid out with a cosy echo on the ringing guitar and a well defined bass guitar but very strange sporadic backing vocals. The edge for me is that Silus Phifer's voice its like Al Jolson, rough and ready but a velvet touch.

Edited December 3, 200816 yr by Prophonics 2029

NORTHERN SOULFRIC AGRO SOUL....made me love sixties again. ..got bored of all that soppy ballad boring stuff...

Oh yes top of the pile stuff alright...raw soul with all the trimmings & yet mello' so mello' "its rolled on the thigh of a Cuban virgin" always been one of me alltime fav's.....Definately a desert island disc.

Edited December 3, 200816 yr by Billyboy

One of the best Northern Soul records ever discovered, its got everything you want in a dancer. Messy...who gives a f*ck, soul as it should be, from the heart, the group giving it everything and more and not summat practiced and polished in a studio

A Northern record can't be too messy!

Remember a couple of years ago when (I think) Kitch played it. I was completely worn out when it ended and I was looking for a place to sit down for a while. Then he just moved the needle to the start again.

Absolutely fabulous!

I don't think you could call it a truly great soul record but it's a F****ng fantastically great Northern Soul record, one of the greatest and sorry Epic mate I don't think your rarity argument holds on this, it has a dance floor reaction unlike many other records, majority of whom are unaware of any rarity as they stampede past anyone in their way to get to the dancefloor,

I truly believe if you don't get this you don't get Northern Soul, in one of my opinionated statements.

Closely followed by the Parliaments Rainy Day for the best dancefloor reaction as an unknown/semi known, and it still has it now years and years later.

It probably is my generations Job Opening to be honest for Northern Soul

It's not that I don't get it - I just don't think it's that good.

It's not that I don't get it - I just don't think it's that good.

Me neither.

I totally 'get' Northern Soul - but don't have the ears for stuff like this.

Same with Parliaments on Cabell.

Neither very good (IMO).

Sean

Edited December 4, 200816 yr by Sean Hampsey

brilliant record,,,,perfect nighter record....along with the YOUNG BROS. it does it for me,

Me neither.

I totally 'get' Northern Soul - but don't have the ears for stuff like this.

Same with Parliaments on Cabell.

Neither very good (IMO).

Sean

Edited December 4, 200816 yr by Simon M

But Sean your Mentor Tats Taylor likes the Paliaments or was it the B-side "Getting ready for the summer" ?

I am Tats mentor.

He's my younger (fatter) brother and I taught him everything he knows.

If he admits to liking that crock then he still has a way to go!

Sean

I am Tats mentor.

He's my younger (fatter) brother and I taught him everything he knows.

If he admits to liking that crock then he still has a way to go!

Sean

No your wrong again Sean , this is great NS ,with a crossover flip !! Ask Master Tats

No your wrong again Sean , this is great NS ,with a crossover flip !! Ask Master Tats

I can't be 'wrong' Simon just cos I don't like it.

That's like saying I'm 'wrong' if I don't like the taste of coconut

For them wot likes it, good luck to 'em, but its not really to my taste.

It' OK, no more than that, to my ears at least.

But as it happens, even the group didn't rate it!

Sean

Messy. The only messy bit is the same old bad sound file that is punted around, I have listened to Kitche's copy out and its a different experience.

Bet it sounds great on my system saturday!

Are you sure Butch has this?

I can't be 'wrong' Simon just cos I don't like it.

That's like saying I'm 'wrong' if I don't like the taste of coconut

For them wot likes it, good luck to 'em, but its not really to my taste.

It' OK, no more than that, to my ears at least.

But as it happens, even the group didn't rate it!

Sean

But Sean , if you don't like coconut , why would you be critical of a Thai restaurant's cooking ?

Bet it sounds great on my system saturday!

Are you sure Butch has this?

Well he did last time I went to The 100 Club !

But Sean , if you don't like coconut , why would you be critical of a Thai restaurant's cooking ?

I do like coconut, Simon.

It was a 'for instance'.

Don't like Thai food though.

Yuk!

But Sean your Mentor Tats Taylor likes the Paliaments or was it the B-side "Getting ready for the summer" ?

Think You May Be Wrong on that Score Simon

Tats does love "The Parliments" but you are not talking about "Heart Trouble" are you

Rainy Day.......... Tats never said he loves that

I do like coconut, Simon.

It was a 'for instance'.

Don't like Thai food though.

Yuk!

Sean,do you or do you not like coconut?.For the record.

i was reading this thread a couple of days ago and everyone was saying "this is the greatest track ever" and i was getting confused, like "this is soul source, where are all the haters?" I'm glad it's almost back to normal, we still need some "It's total shite!" posts to set things right.

side "Getting ready for the summer" ?

Think You May Be Wrong on that Score Simon

Tats does love "The Parliments" but you are not talking about "Heart Trouble" are you

Rainy Day.......... Tats never said he loves that

side "Getting ready for the summer" ?

Think You May Be Wrong on that Score Simon

Tats does love "The Parliments" but you are not talking about "Heart Trouble" are you

Rainy Day.......... Tats never said he loves that

He said he liked the other side Bully , "Getting ready for the summer "

My anger clouded my judgement

And I saw a red flash

When my mouth wrote a check

That my heart couldn't cash

messy?! the backings messy, the brass extremely messy, vocals messy...BUT... don't dissect it - put 'em all together and you got one of THE best northern soul records ever :-)

Edited December 8, 200816 yr by Simon T

messy?! the backings messy, the brass extremely messy, vocals messy...BUT... don't dissect it - put 'em all together and you got one of THE best northern soul records ever :-)

Must agree

EVER