Premium Stuff Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Hi everyone Does anyone have the story on this one please? It couples together two originally unissued tracks. The other side is "I'll Be Your Winner". Anyone know when was it made, where etc. please? Is it an out and out bootleg, or was it done legitimately somehow? Cheers Richard Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve G Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Think it was just an acetate that John Anderson found in the 70s. Don't think there is a Magic City connection. Just one of those Popcorn unissued thingies. Steve Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Robbk Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 "I'll Be Your Winner" was from their Soulhawk days. Was "Spaceland" from that period as well? Wylie and Hestor certainly never had any connection to Ernest Burt and Magic City Records. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Pinch Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 never seen that boot before ..how long has that been kicking around then...must be recent ish Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Premium Stuff Posted December 23, 2011 Author Share Posted December 23, 2011 Me neither Dave It went through eBay a month or so ago for about 40 quid Now on Popsike Cheers Richard Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Hitsville Chalky Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 (edited) Gary Holyman had one also seen one at Blue maxs shop i think mick holdsworth had one too ..maybe its the same 45 ? or a few boots but i'm certain its carver job . Had done one myself about 5 yrs ago with spaceland and down in the dumps i did put a soulhawk label on mine ..agree don't know why they used Magic City . Edited December 23, 2011 by Hitsville Chalky Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Louise Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 A Bell Sound acetate of Tony Hester's version Of "I'll Be Your Champion" does exist, I would assume this came from Popcorn originally, Chris King sold this when he sold up circa 1986 to Richard Domar who inturn sold it on to Carl Jones. Carl ain't one for selling records out of his collection so as far as I know the acetate still resides in the leafy suburbes of Wolverhampton. Dave 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Paul Dunn Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 (edited) I'll be your champion came out on the Kool Kat 12'' in 1987 The tracks - Hurtin - Eric & the Vikings My Baby Ain'y No Plaything - Willie Jones In The Pocket - Detroit Strings King For A Day - Stewart Ames I'll Be Your Champion - Tony Hestor GO Go - Buena Vistas Shake Me Break Me - Motor City Sound Shy Guy - Denise & The Devotions Angelina Angelina - Stewart Ames Say It Isn't So (With Strings) - Popcorn and the Mohawks Hole In The Wall - JJ Barnes Edited December 24, 2011 by Paul Dunn Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Wilxy Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 (edited) I'll be your champion came out on the Kool Kat 12'' in 1987 The tracks - Hurtin - Eric & the Vikings My Baby Ain'y No Plaything - Willie Jones In The Pocket - Detroit Strings King For A Day - Stewart Ames I'll Be Your Champion - Tony Hestor GO Go - Buena Vistas Shake Me Break Me - Motor City Sound Shy Guy - Denise & The Devotions Angelina Angelina - Stewart Ames Say It Isn't So (With Strings) - Popcorn and the Mohawks Hole In The Wall - JJ Barnes Another "ditty" I'd never heard of in totality, (as a 12" release I mean)....Any other information on this item Paul from a purely genuine point of interest, as there are one or two tracks I've never heard of let alone heard? Edited December 24, 2011 by wilxy Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Wiganer1 Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 the say it isnt so is fooking awesome! as is shake me wake me Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Wilxy Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 the say it isnt so is fooking awesome! as is shake me wake me Any soundclips Mark.....Or anyone for that matter LOL Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 I'll be your champion came out on the Kool Kat 12'' in 1987 The tracks - Hurtin - Eric & the Vikings My Baby Ain'y No Plaything - Willie Jones In The Pocket - Detroit Strings King For A Day - Stewart Ames I'll Be Your Champion - Tony Hestor GO Go - Buena Vistas Shake Me Break Me - Motor City Sound Shy Guy - Denise & The Devotions Angelina Angelina - Stewart Ames Say It Isn't So (With Strings) - Popcorn and the Mohawks Hole In The Wall - JJ Barnes Wasn't it red vinyl as well? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Premium Stuff Posted December 24, 2011 Author Share Posted December 24, 2011 (edited) Wasn't it red vinyl as well? There was the 12" described above which I believe was both black and red vinyl presses Also a 3 tracker in red vinyl with Eric & Vikings - Hurting, Detroit Strings - In The Pocket and Willie Jones - My Baby Ain't No Plaything - but that might have been later on Cheers Richard Edited December 24, 2011 by Premium Stuff Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Wiganer1 Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Any soundclips Mark.....Or anyone for that matter LOL ==== will try mate.. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Premium Stuff Posted December 24, 2011 Author Share Posted December 24, 2011 Any soundclips Mark.....Or anyone for that matter LOL Detroit Strings - In the Pocket is on YouTube so there might be others Richard Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Wilxy Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 I've heard the 3 tracker Richard, it's more the last 4 of 5 tracks of the 12" listed apart from the Stuart Ames? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Robbk Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 I have both the LP and the EP. The cut "I'm No Plaything" wasn't labeled correctly. It definitely was NOT Willie Jones. Vice was too low for Willie. I remember seeing the singer's real name, and recognising it as a Detroiter. But, I forget his name now. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Premium Stuff Posted December 24, 2011 Author Share Posted December 24, 2011 I have both the LP and the EP. The cut "I'm No Plaything" wasn't labeled correctly. It definitely was NOT Willie Jones. Vice was too low for Willie. I remember seeing the singer's real name, and recognising it as a Detroiter. But, I forget his name now. Wilie Harvey on the CD Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Robbk Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 Wilie Harvey on the CD Yes. Willie Harvey was the guy. Does anyone know anything else about him? He must have been from Detroit. I don't remember anything else he's done. But, he may have also been a member of a known Detroit group. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Premium Stuff Posted December 25, 2011 Author Share Posted December 25, 2011 Robb The CD goes along the lines of Willie was a friend of Jimmey Soul Clark. Popcorn signed him to Soul Hawk. Willie ended up singing as a backing singer on 'My Baby Ain't No Play Thing' which was actually written and arranged with him in mind. However, it was given to New Holidays as more commercially successful/known. Willie died in 1994 and he was also a member of Masterplan in '70s. Cheers Richard Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Wiganer1 Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 heres say it isnt so inst...atb mark https://www.facebook.com/groups/iwenttowigancasino/351771921502819/?notif_t=like Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
funkyfeet Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Have the 3 track 45 for sale if anyone's after a copy. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Willie died in 1994 and he was also a member of Masterplan in '70s. which masterplan group are you talking about??? thanks. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Premium Stuff Posted December 29, 2011 Author Share Posted December 29, 2011 (edited) which masterplan group are you talking about??? thanks. Hi Bob The info came from the CD booklet so I don't have anything more other than what is stated I'm afraid. This is the CD - Soul Supply/Goldmine Cheers Richard Edited December 29, 2011 by Premium Stuff Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Perception Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 I have the 12" Kool Kat record, bought it when it came out. The one I have is black vinyl. I think Guy Hennigan used to play "In The Pocket" inst by the Detroit Strings. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Wiganer1 Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 he did and shake me wake me Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 the only things I can think of that it might be is maybe they meant Masterpiece on YPSI... and there is that carol anderson song masterplan. I know it's definitely not the bay area group. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
lincsmod1970 Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Has ANYONE got a copy of the TONY HESTOR - SPACELAND (Magic City) 45 for sale please?? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Detroit Strings - In the Pocket is on YouTube so there might be others Richard Have you heard the vocal that Hitsville Chalky did with pat lewis? Bostin! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Manfromsoul45s Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 A Bell Sound acetate of Tony Hester's version Of "I'll Be Your Champion" does exist, I would assume this came from Popcorn originally, Chris King sold this when he sold up circa 1986 to Richard Domar who inturn sold it on to Carl Jones. Carl ain't one for selling records out of his collection so as far as I know the acetate still resides in the leafy suburbes of Wolverhampton. Dave Yes Dave, that was in Chris King's hands and he tried to sell it to Rob Smith along with some other stuff many years ago but rob wasn't interested so I think he sold them to Domar?? 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve G Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Has ANYONE got a copy of the TONY HESTOR - SPACELAND (Magic City) 45 for sale please?? Right but it's a bootleg. Just as long as you know. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Louise Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 (edited) Yes Dave, that was in Chris King's hands and he tried to sell it to Rob Smith along with some other stuff many years ago but rob wasn't interested so I think he sold them to Domar?? Ta Kitch, People seem to think I make this up as I go along If memory serves me right their was a Buddy Smith on Brute and a Yvonne Vernee 'Just Like You Did Me, involved as well Dave Edited August 20, 2012 by Louise Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Rob Moss Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 'Shake me break me' is not the actual title. Ed Wolfrum played me two versions of it under the real title 'That's what I get'. Don't know whether the vocal exists. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Manfromsoul45s Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Ta Kitch, People seem to think I make this up as I go along If memory serves me right their was a Buddy Smith on Brute and a Yvonne Vernee 'Just Like You Did Me, involved as well Dave Yes I know Dave. I had an idea he was going in with them and I told Rob to put B. Smith And Y. Yvernee along with Eddie Parker and some others and when Chris came in he wouldn't buy them cause there was "too many obscurities in the bag"!!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Manfromsoul45s Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 I was given cuts of. GO Go - Buena Vistas Hole In The Wall - JJ Barnes Around stafford time and played them on and off since. Some great stuff came out of that lot.. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Louise Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 hah! the good ole' days Eddie Parker's flying around the back alley's of Nottingham in a carrier bag !!! I was going to buy the Buddy Smith for £40 but Mr Domar in his infinite wisdom decided to trade it with Ady Pearce for a W/D of Jannie Grant "My Heart, Your Heart" (the jammy B*st*rd) Dave 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Constellation161 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 On 22 December 2011 at 18:34, Louise said: A Bell Sound acetate of Tony Hester's version Of "I'll Be Your Champion" does exist, I would assume this came from Popcorn originally, Chris King sold this when he sold up circa 1986 to Richard Domar who inturn sold it on to Carl Jones. Carl ain't one for selling records out of his collection so as far as I know the acetate still resides in the leafy suburbes of Wolverhampton. Dave Can confirm that Dave is correct that Tony Hester's version of I'll be your champion still does reside in Wolverhampton and was played by Carl Jones at Strictly Modern and Crossover at Bradmore in Wolverhampton last night. Mick Perrins. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Gilly Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Myself, Guy Hennigan and Cris King were involved in finding the tracks that made up the Kool Kat 12" 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jerry Hipkiss Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 1 hour ago, Gilly said: Myself, Guy Hennigan and Cris King were involved in finding the tracks that made up the Kool Kat 12" ...and I'm sure I've said it before, but "In the pocket" blasting out is one of my favourite Stafford memories :-) 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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