NEV Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 The Ebay listed one s have been sold by Mark Coddington - He 's a full time record dealer , that 's how he makes his living like many of us . So some on here would rather maintain exclusivity and wank over a rare edition . Gregory Porter is a full time musician - who I very much doubt would concern himself with limited etc etc this is also how he earns his money. Having seen the artist live last year in Birmingham I for one am glad he is gaining the recognition he deserves - hope it will lead to him gaining more exposure - that's what musicians are in the business for. Expansion are a 25 year long established record label - pay their licensing rights and obtain masters to release product - just going about their business correctly. Pity this forum don' t have the same venom for the Ebay sellers who trot out white label test presses of Motown , Northern in demand 45s for £10 plus , and compact disc comps from various soul club anniversary nights.. F F S get a grip - I bought the Gregory porter CD as a new release , bought his second CD as a new release , and will continue buying new releases cos I like them not to cream over it 's rarity ....Some of us just going about our business on a daily basis ...but hey in the U K nanny state you should do as your told .... Yawn ..yet another one missing the point ! Nobody wants to deny anybody any money making opportunity ...the point is WHY RELEASE IT AS A 500 LIMITED PRESS ? and then change your mind ! Let me spell it out ....500 press = marketing strategy = stampede for the opportunity to own it ...job done ! P.s i think we are actually done on here moaning about ebay sellers pushing out fake records every day of the week .. many have reported the fact to ebay ,but they aint bothered ,its business to them, and will only be stopped when they themselves are threatened for allowing it to go on ! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Glynthornhill Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Agreed Pete , however a daily trawl through listings shows these sell constantly from the same culprits to no avail. I have even reported fake Motown material to the relevant authorities - They could not be arsed even to reply .... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Popular Post Glynthornhill Posted May 30, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted May 30, 2012 Let me spell it out ....500 press = marketing strategy = stampede for the opportunity to own it ...job done ! Not missing the point - the record store day limited issue is a different label design end of ? The Expansion release is on a standard Expansion logo totally different from the 500 pressed , and who said ' it 's never coming out again ' don 't recall seeing that in print but please show me if wrong I apologise in advance. How do you think record label s stay in business ???? 4 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest allnightandy Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 (edited) name='Sutty' timestamp='1338317364' post='1753233'] As for anyone moaning, maybe you just need to lock yourself in the bathroom and have a good stare at the label then drop yer trousers for a right good w... Memo to myself Be very careful who you buy records off in future , LoL Edited May 30, 2012 by allnightandy Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Agreed Pete , however a daily trawl through listings shows these sell constantly from the same culprits to no avail. I have even reported fake Motown material to the relevant authorities - They could not be arsed even to reply .... Unbelievable - yet the PRS people are coming down like a ton of bricks against anyone without a music license, shops etc Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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Guest Paul Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 It's a difficult situation, I can understand people feeling cheated and I can also understand Passion / Expansion pressing more copies to satisfy demand. The whole problem is with how things are described. I don't describe my issues as limited editions, even though most are, because I know I may repress another batch if needed. And I didn't issue anything for RSD because I could see the increasing confusion and frustrations (we've discussed those things on other threads). I was tempted but I avoided it. Business is difficult enough without people losing trust in record companies. RSD should be RSW (record store week) and it should happen twice a year. And there needs to be more focus on the real purpose: getting people into the stores. Things are made worse by online sellers describing things as "rare as hen's teeth" (for example) when there are hundreds of copies on sale and more can easily be pressed. Another point in this debate is the ironic fact that some people are more likely to buy a record if it's rare, exclusive or limited. I certainly don't think Ralph intended to fool anyone but I wish he had reissued it with a different mix or edit, and maybe a different flip rather than just a different label, then it would have been less likely to annoy those who'd rushed out to buy what they thought was a limited edition. Maybe lessons will be learned from this. Paul Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
NEV Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Let me spell it out ....500 press = marketing strategy = stampede for the opportunity to own it ...job done ! Not missing the point - the record store day limited issue is a different label design end of ? The Expansion release is on a standard Expansion logo totally different from the 500 pressed , and who said ' it 's never coming out again ' don 't recall seeing that in print but please show me if wrong I apologise in advance. How do you think record label s stay in business ???? This point ... "Sure some of you will have bought the recent release of the stunning Gregory Porter - 1960what limited release for record store day & were also lead to believe that there were only 500 hand numbered copy's. Actually bought a copy myself even though I had the cd release from a few months ago as I rather wrongly thought that there were only going to be 500 as stated by Richard Searling & Ralph Tee who own / run Expansion records. Also a few people have been paying up to 50 pounds a copy for what Expansion said was a limited release" " LIMITED" .. i must be thick too cos i always thought the word "LIMITED" MEANT "LIMITED" as in restricted numbers Record company's stay in business by making money from selling records ..so back to my original question ..why restrict a record to a limited 500 press in the 1st place ? P.s Reminds me of Mario Biondi -this is what we are ,dubbed over :sleep3: Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Roger Williams Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Maybe lessons will be learned from this. The main one being never expect a rare soul record collector to see some actual sense. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
oldsteve woomble Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Anyone with a black one with the lickle number on who feels cheated, abused or that their human rights have been violated then let me know and i'll give you your tenner back in return for the record. Sorted! And if you paid more, blame the gadger you bought it off, not expansion FFS!! Hey I got a black one off that nice Mr Fish-cake (limited to 500 - just as they said - with lickle numbers on - just like they said) and was (and am) well happy with it! ..... But I wasn't (with the greatest respect) stupid, naive enough to think that it might not never never never ne-ver be pressed again if demand dictated!! WTF!!... In fact I'm delighted it's been re-pressed / 2nd issued or how ever you want to put it, it means loads more people want it than originally forecast (increased demand).... which means that the sexier trophy version might become even more in demand / rarer-er! Ace! And as for Expansion - it's an absolute bloody disgrace that they operate as a business. What kind of business operates as an... er.. business? Oh.... And mark my words.... Next time they do a limited edition they'd bloody well better do it as a single bloody copy and give it just to MEEEEE!! MEEEE I tell you MEEEE!!!!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 And mark my words.... Next time they do a limited edition they'd bloody well better do it as a single bloody copy and give it just to MEEEEE!! MEEEE I tell you MEEEE!!!!! If I got the rights to something and told you I'd only made 100 copies and they were £20 each, sold them all, and then announced I'd just made another 100 copies but this time they're £10 each, what would your reaction be? I doubt you'd be defending me. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest proteus Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 'Anyway buying a record because its an exclusive? whats that all about - just thinking of values. Why not buy a record because you like it.' Not missing the point - the record store day limited issue is a different label design end of ? The Expansion release is on a standard Expansion logo totally different from the 500 pressed But I wasn't (with the greatest respect) stupid, naive enough to think that it might not never never never ne-ver be pressed again if demand dictated!! A few points here. I contacted Motema last year about a vinyl release of 1960 What. I just don't like CDs, it's not about some collector fetish - I sold some of my original NYC bluenotes when I picked up new audiophile MusicMatters reissues which sound better. Anyway, Motema said one was in the pipeline for this year so I didn't buy the CD and waited. Sure enough one came out but I lost a Saturday pissing round trying to get hold of one as it was a one off ltd ed that I was informed was sure to sell out and disappear. Me and my kids have better things to do on the weekend, but ever since I saw Mr Porter freestyling live at Dingwalls last year I wanted to pick that track up so made the effort and had the whole family in a car for over 4 hours while I made the trek. Why would anyone think that Expansion would release again a week or so later what they claimed was a 'limited edition' of just 500? I don't think that's being stupid or naive. I would have been far happier if Expansion had been straight with us, I would have waited and got the nr identical release a week later mailed to me in the post - far, far easier and cheaper. The point about the different label design is a joke. That label design is so basic it's barely even designed and something I could knock out in 5 minutes and still do a damn site better job of. Last year, when Trunk reissued the Tubby Hayes - Voodoo 7" shortly after the initial release, they at least had the respect of their customers and enough consciousness to release it in a plain sleeve, given it was originally released a ltd edition of 666. Expansion are a sloppy label with little respect for their customers and the weak arguements for them are not cutting it... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sutty Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 (edited) the RSD limited issue was a limited issue, they're all numbered on a dark label. where has a promise been broken? 500 limited copies for RSD was what they said wasn't it? that's what it is. the repress is on the standard expansion label. are people more concerned about the potential resale value of the RSD version going down? it won't, its still the limited edition for the collectors and in the eyes of vinyl buyers the most desirable format. i'd like someone to reissue the 1st Michael Kiwanaku 10" please as that's now £100+ on private sales, meaning private purchasers are making vastly more money than the artist, as in the case of Gregorys' RSD record! same for the tubby hayes 7. I didn't get one on RSD as the queues were mental to get in the shops that hardly enyone normally goes in, it was on Juno for under a tenner within 2 days and on other sites too cheers Sutty Edited May 30, 2012 by Sutty Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
oldsteve woomble Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 If I got the rights to something and told you I'd only made 100 copies and they were £20 each, sold them all, and then announced I'd just made another 100 copies but this time they're £10 each, what would your reaction be? I doubt you'd be defending me. Of course I would if you made them 'different'! That's what marketing a product is all about! Expansion released 500 individually numbered, black label design copies and then due to unpredicted demand pressed another run (no idea how many) on a totally different design label. Now I've got no idea about this but I would imagine that the dealer cost would have been about the same for them both?? (I may be totally wrong on that - you'd have more idea than me about that kind of thing Pete). I can see nothing wrong at all anywhere! The only analogy I can make is the demo v issue comparison, the coloured vinyl v usual vinyl, the picture sleeve v non picture sleeve, the 'platinum edition' v the normal issue etc etc ad infinitum. All often with price differentials and often very different in their levels of 'collectability' And I'm still waiting for the PM's offering to sell me the numbered original 500 folks!. I'll take them for the original tenner, then you can then buy the cheaper version..... so you're in pocket! Everyone's happy! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Cunnie Posted May 30, 2012 Author Share Posted May 30, 2012 No Martin, it's you who's missing the point, by a considerable way. Expansion are a record company and pandering to tiny minded self-absorbed crying-arse collectors doesn't keep the business running Martin, Well why issue a record aimed squarely at collectors on a day aimed squarely at record collectors? I thought you of all people would have the intelligence to realise that. It's the ridiculous public accusations of Ralph Tee and Expansion 'cheating', 'misleading', 'selling under false pretences' that has really got my back up, Sorry Roger & understand your loyalty to Expansion as you work for them but surely stating that an item is limited to 500 & then within a month releasing loads more is at the very least 'misleading' IMO. because that is just stupid beyond my comprehension not to mention offensive on Ralph Tee's character - the release was initially limited to coincide with Record Store Day and that was all it set out as, nothing more, nothing less, but the demand for the record was unexpected and unprecedented so they took the business decision, 100% right in the real world, to press up more to satisfy that demand worldwide and take the opportunity to capitalise on the demand for one of their releases, which is exactly what any RECORD COMPANY would do, even more so in this day and age. Disagree again Roger. There is always a massive demand for record store day releases & as far as I'm aware none of the other releases have been reissued or repressed or whatever anyone wants to call it. I'm sure Ady Coasdell & the Ace / Kent chaps won't be repressing the equally good Clarence Carter release for the same day. More here on the link below. https://www.purplerev...rds-review.html Also on the topic of demand for the track I queued for 90 minutes outside Rockaboom record shop in Leicester but to no avail as they had no knowledge of the release but they did reserve a Clarence Carter for me. Shelley could see I wasn't too pleased so without my knowledge she got me a copy off Fish & it made my day when she gave it to me. Bet she ain't too pleased now either but would never admit it. I can just imagine the Expansion receptionist picking up the phone in response to a customer ringing in for a copy saying 'No, I'm sorry, we've sold out and two people on Soul Source will be upset if we press some more so you'll have to do without and we'll lose out on sales in these times of recession', it'd be like a Two Ronnies out-take. Now perhaps if Expansion had put just a little more thought into this & done something like released a 7" edit for the collectors and put out a 12" version for general release this might not have happened & all sides would have been happy. Sure some of the people on this & other forums would have been more than satisfied with a 7" collectors disc. Four candles AND fork handles!! A silly and utterly pointless thread started by one of the forum's moderators with the intention of doing down one of the UK's premier soul music labels who've been in business for over 25 years. Good work mate, give yourself a pat on the back. I'm a forum staff member, not a Moderator & look after the events forums so in this part of the site I'm just a regular site member like your good self Roger. Also I have bought loads of stuff on Expansion over the years (most recently the Victor Haynes album) & like you say they are one of the UK's premier Soul music labels & 99% of the time they get it right but on this occasion IMO they have slipped up. Shame this didn't happen last week then perhaps we could have discussed it over a beer in the sun at Morecambe rather than like this.... Roger Martin. . Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve G Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 (edited) Game over. A 30 second google will find this quote from none other than Ralph himself....... "Gregory Porter 1960 What? It was actually the suggestion of my friend Steve Cole, a DJ/vinyl enthusiast, that both the original and Opolopo Kick & Bass Rerub mixes back to back would make a fantastic 12 inch release. My original concern was that 12 inch singles don't sell enough, and the mixes are too long for the seven inch vinyl format which is currently enjoying a resurgence. So Record Store Day became a wonderful solution as it allowed Expansion to put out a superb record on 12 inch single, hand numbered for vinyl fans and collectors with some guaranteed in support. Though actually we only pressed 500 and I'm already wishing we had run a few more". This clearly sets out the original intent, which seems to have been quickly reversed and no amount of bluster from the 'collectors suck collective' on here will convince me otherwise. (Hi to Roger, Glyn, Steve and co!). You simply cannot have it both ways, going on about limited numbers for a limited market and a "wonderful solution" of pressing up 500 "for vinyl fans and collectors" then reversing it...less than a month later. This isn't the first time Expansion have done a limited edition, as the protagonists on here should well know, but it is as far as i can tell the first time they've ever gone and re-done something they've call a "limited edition". This is a straight forward case of trying to have your cake and eat it as the above quote from Ralph shows. Edited May 30, 2012 by Steve G 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
oldsteve woomble Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 (edited) Steve they've done EXACTLY what they said they were going to do! And then realised, as any business worth its salt would do, that there is an opportunity for more sales! PLUS then they've had the decency to change the label to retain the integrity of the initial 500!!!! Oh I give up. I've got to go and wash my hair. Edited May 30, 2012 by steve woomble Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Cunnie Posted May 30, 2012 Author Share Posted May 30, 2012 Oh I give up. I've got to go and wash my hair. Ditto Steve Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve G Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Oh I give up. I've got to go and wash my hair. Too much information Baldie...... No one is saying Expansion is the new 'Casino Classics', or that Ralphie is a 'bad egg' - a few of us saying they made a poor call on this one. The world carries on spinning.....tomorrow is another day.....and sees another 'limited edition' vinyl somewhere. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Roger Williams Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 A few points here. I contacted Motema last year about a vinyl release of 1960 What. I just don't like CDs, it's not about some collector fetish - I sold some of my original NYC bluenotes when I picked up new audiophile MusicMatters reissues which sound better. Anyway, Motema said one was in the pipeline for this year so I didn't buy the CD and waited. Sure enough one came out but I lost a Saturday pissing round trying to get hold of one as it was a one off ltd ed that I was informed was sure to sell out and disappear. Me and my kids have better things to do on the weekend, but ever since I saw Mr Porter freestyling live at Dingwalls last year I wanted to pick that track up so made the effort and had the whole family in a car for over 4 hours while I made the trek. Why would anyone think that Expansion would release again a week or so later what they claimed was a 'limited edition' of just 500? I don't think that's being stupid or naive. I would have been far happier if Expansion had been straight with us, I would have waited and got the nr identical release a week later mailed to me in the post - far, far easier and cheaper. The point about the different label design is a joke. That label design is so basic it's barely even designed and something I could knock out in 5 minutes and still do a damn site better job of. Last year, when Trunk reissued the Tubby Hayes - Voodoo 7" shortly after the initial release, they at least had the respect of their customers and enough consciousness to release it in a plain sleeve, given it was originally released a ltd edition of 666. Expansion are a sloppy label with little respect for their customers and the weak arguements for them are not cutting it... :sleep3: :sleep3: Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
aintgotit Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Lilly fields ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
oldsteve woomble Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Ditto Steve Hey I thought you still had some shampoo-ability on that bonce of yours!! Anyway extremely loosly on-topic.... while we were full of beans at Mineport / South-head we got from Gregory Porter to Orville in 6 steps. For some reason it seemed reasonably witty at the time. Remember folks, just say no. Taxi! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest philly07 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 I bought the limited 500 ,ive not even broke the seal , i played the cd the other week the bottom line is its been made available because the public want it , if and when it becomes available on 7" with on my way to harlem i,ll buy it because i collect things in all formats , thats because thats what makes my world go round ,its everybody to thier own ,personally expansion have catered for the market and opened it for the public whom have never been part of our wonderfull scene . carlo. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ian Dewhirst Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Wanna know the funny thing? The 2nd pressing on the normal Expansion label has now sold out. In a matter of days. I understand what people are saying but had Ralph not taken that demand, then the record would have flipped to another company which would take the demand, so the record was always going to be available on 12" one way or t'other. To have a numbered edition of the first 500 is a very desirable item anyway so I really don't think anyone's missed out here. It'll probably end up selling 10K. Makes a change 'cos most 12"'s are lucky to hit even 500 these days! Ian D 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve G Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 (edited) Wanna know the funny thing? The 2nd pressing on the normal Expansion label has now sold out. In a matter of days. I understand what people are saying but had Ralph not taken that demand, then the record would have flipped to another company which would take the demand, so the record was always going to be available on 12" one way or t'other. To have a numbered edition of the first 500 is a very desirable item anyway so I really don't think anyone's missed out here. It'll probably end up selling 10K. Makes a change 'cos most 12"'s are lucky to hit even 500 these days! Ian D If what you say is correct and the press runs are the same, you'll probably find the 2nd issue becomes harder to find than the "record shop day edition". This was the price Corgi paid in the toy market, everyone squirrelled away their limited / specially numbered editions, and it was the general releases that just vanished, and ultimately became more collectable... Edited May 30, 2012 by Steve G Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Roger Williams Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Wanna know the funny thing? The 2nd pressing on the normal Expansion label has now sold out. In a matter of days. I understand what people are saying but had Ralph not taken that demand, then the record would have flipped to another company which would take the demand, so the record was always going to be available on 12" one way or t'other. To have a numbered edition of the first 500 is a very desirable item anyway so I really don't think anyone's missed out here. It'll probably end up selling 10K. Makes a change 'cos most 12"'s are lucky to hit even 500 these days! Ian D Spot on Ian, nobody who bought the original release is going to have missed out, they're simply miffed because they don't want others to have what they have, as usual. What a thread like this highlights is the inherent selfishness and self-absorbed unreasonable nature of the rare soul record collector, always unwilling to take in a different viewpoint to their own and when faced with overwhelming sensible explanations as to why they might be wrong, simply ignore what's been explained in the clearest terms, and simply reiterate their initial weak argument over and over again. The best bit of this thread for me though has been the "I sat for four hours in a car with my kids so Expansion are a bunch of bastards". Priceless comedy, you couldn't make it up!! Roger 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
21 Again Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Best thing since Jimmy Cobb, hope it does come out in 7 inch edit format with Harlem i would purchase it. Wonder what he was doin on Jules Holland on Tues night sitting behind Jimmy Cliff (couldnt miss him could you). Anyway have fun with your 12 inchers. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ian Dewhirst Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 If what you say is correct and the press runs are the same, you'll probably find the 2nd issue becomes harder to find than the "record shop day edition". This was the price Corgi paid in the toy market, everyone squirrelled away their limited / specially numbered editions, and it was the general releases that just vanished, and ultimately became more collectable... Could happen Steve. He didn't press enough of the 2nd issue either! I've insisted that he does the 3rd issue on a slightly different Expansion label and I've bet him that he'll repress at least another 5 times LOL....what a REKID! The 5th issue will be the one to get though. A one-off pressing with strands of Gregory's hair within the vinyl and Gregory's blood infused within the label. £2K....? £3K.......? See if Steve Woomble will buy that back! Ian D Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Having just listened to it, I'm amazed it sold 5 copies let alone 500. 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ian Dewhirst Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Having just listened to it, I'm amazed it sold 5 copies let alone 500. You don't think it's got a Gil Scott kinda vibe to it? Ian D Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 (edited) You don't think it's got a Gil Scott kinda vibe to it? Ian D Yes maybe, but It was just the same thing, over and over again, all the way through... Edited May 30, 2012 by Pete S Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mark R Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 f*ck me........I just give up, on so many levels in this thread.............more holes in it than Swiss cheese!! And the best one is, it's a shit record now! Cheers, Mark R Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Benji Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Having just listened to it, I'm amazed it sold 5 copies let alone 500. Which mix did you listen to? Only know the orig mix on the album. Great track, not soul though. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest allnightandy Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Just listened to it myself ! What genre of music is that ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Diddy Morgan Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 c'mon pete you cant only have just heard greg porter for the 1st time!!!! youre gonna get nicknamed " pilot light pete " lol .... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Which mix did you listen to? Only know the orig mix on the album. Great track, not soul though. I listened to the first two that were on youtube, the second I think had an official promo video. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 c'mon pete you cant only have just heard greg porter for the 1st time!!!! youre gonna get nicknamed " pilot light pete " lol .... Honestly - where would I have heard it? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 f*ck me........I just give up, on so many levels in this thread.............more holes in it than Swiss cheese!! And the best one is, it's a shit record now! Cheers, Mark R Did I say it was shit? No I didn't. I said it was boring. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Benji Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 I listened to the first two that were on youtube, the second I think had an official promo video. I think the album mix is fantastic Jazz music as is the whole album. The Ooompa Loompa mix or whatever it is called is crap. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 ...What genre of music is that ? Seriously? It's a jazz record. That's probably why people who don't like jazz don't like it. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Seriously? It's a jazz record. That's probably why people who don't like jazz don't like it. I think you may have that spot on. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Roger Williams Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 (edited) I've insisted that he does the 3rd issue on a slightly different Expansion label Ask that bloke who drags his kids around with him on buying trips to knock one up in 5 minutes to save that criminal mastermind Tee bothering me to do it for him. Roger Edited May 30, 2012 by Roger Williams 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
soulpaul0 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 does nothing for me, but if you like fair play but will it ever be play at a soul do (don't think so to jazzy) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
NEV Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Roger ,you can preview your work before posting ...it saves you having to edit afterwards Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
phillyDaveG Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 does nothing for me, but if you like fair play but will it ever be play at a soul do (don't think so to jazzy) Nah, I've only heard it played at just about every soul do I've visited in the last few months. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Alison H Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 I think the album mix is fantastic Jazz music as is the whole album. The Ooompa Loompa mix or whatever it is called is crap. Did someone mention an Oompa Loompa ? Here's a pic of an Oompa Loompa with the man himself at the Southport Weekender in Minehead. Incredible voice, but I personally don't like 1960 whatever it's called (No disrespect to anyone who does) Give me The Work Song anyday (which again, won't be everyone's cup of tea) 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
21 Again Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Work song the dogs dangley things Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Alison H Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Work song the dogs dangley things Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Wiggyflat Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 You don't think it's got a Gil Scott kinda vibe to it? Ian D Ian it's more Les Mcann (Compared To What) than Gil Scott ....not that bothered about his other tracks but there's a competent version of Work Song done by him.....I'm not interested in the remix and had to buy the 12 to get it on any vinyl format and that's a bloody long mix (12 mins) and a bleepy mix on the other side which im not interested in.I think the straight mix is just over 5 mins ....I'm sure there have been 45 releases over 5 mins...no wonder the bootleggers and vinylcarvers are busy.....nearly as bad as Skip Mahoney's Janice being reissued on a 12 inch only ... I want a seven and a 5 min mix with no bleeps and farts... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Roger Williams Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Roger ,you can preview your work before posting ...it saves you having to edit afterwards I like piss-taking being referred to as 'work' Not Edited Yet by Roger Williams, 0 mins ago, but he might do if he fancies changing it. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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