The Group ft Cecil Washington

I Don't Like To Lose

Original Prophonics !! How much ????

900 terry

F@&k -

Why is everything I want nearly a grand ??

Cheers Ted

The Group ft Cecil Washington

I Don't Like To Lose

Original Prophonics !! How much ????

one sold on ebay mint- condition few weeks ago i think £1200

Thanks guys. Looks like the kids are getting nowt for XMas !! ( again )

Last one i seen, sold for £1400 on ebay in oct this year

See if Nev will do you a deal Terry. ;)

The Group ft Cecil Washington

I Don't Like To Lose

Original Prophonics !! How much ????

I'm not 100 precent sure, but i have seen it on sean chapman list, just under 2k

Stop it now, everyone. It's suppose to be Christmas soon. I've been very good so perhaps, Santa ???

Stop it now, everyone. It's suppose to be Christmas soon. I've been very good so perhaps, Santa ???

Ill rent you mine....or I could lease it to you Terry

i just love the way it leaps from 900 to 2k such a quality record......worth every penny of its assimilating value!!

Ill rent you mine....or I could lease it to you Terry

:lol:

Strange one this considering it was such a monster back in the day, it does get a mixed reception at some venues

Strange one this considering it was such a monster back in the day, it does get a mixed reception at some venues

I know !!

I was chatting with a friend ( yes I do have one ) the other day and we talked of old Records that seldom see the light of day, this was one of them. We loved it back in the day but its not really the 'Modern' take on oldies - not 100MPH so gets ignored a little.

Before I get a barrage of 'we play it at ours' I am generalising.

Ted, you must have a box full of stuff that frustrates the hell out of you when its played and gets little or no response !!

Hey ho, theres always You Tube.

Take care and see you soon matey

Strange one this considering it was such a monster back in the day, it does get a mixed reception at some venues

Really? I'd have thought this would fill any floor anywhere. First few bars used to have people running for the dance floor

Not me - never liked it

Richard

I think it's one hell of a haunting, stunning record. Pure class in my view - it's got that spine tingling "something".

Peter

Really? I'd have thought this would fill any floor anywhere. First few bars used to have people running for the dance floor

im afraid it doesnt

can i just say that if this record wont get you running to the dancefloor....uncle ted definitely will anyway am i right?...just as an aside to this..has anyone ever wondered why richard covered it up as joe matthews?......to me the musical structure is similar to the tamangoes.

This was the biggest sound I ever heard at Wigan. Absolute stunner, still sounds great & soulful today.

You can't please all the people.......

Aid.

This was the biggest sound I ever heard at Wigan. Absolute stunner, still sounds great & soulful today.

You can't please all the people.......

Aid.

yes dear door lady, probably same for me....in my top three of all-time with vicky baines and william powell....and i bet a fair few on here will say they're all crap!!.....GO ON THEN.....CAN OF WORMS OR WHAT?

im afraid it doesnt

It's how ya play em Ted! .....I know mate - 'Kettle Black' an' all that

All the best,

Len

yes dear door lady, probably same for me....in my top three of all-time with vicky baines and william powell....and i bet a fair few on here will say they're all crap!!.....GO ON THEN.....CAN OF WORMS OR WHAT?

Two out of three ain't bad, I'll replace William Powell (great sound) with The Agents.

Aid.

It's how ya play em Ted! .....I know mate - 'Kettle Black' an' all that

All the best,

Len

P*** of Len and get back to sending people to sleep but occasionally there is some good stuff

have a good Xmas mate

Edited December 6, 201212 yr by Ted Massey

Two out of three ain't bad, I'll replace William Powell (great sound) with The Agents.

Aid.

Played William Powell at Alderley Edge last weekend - went down a storm. Cecil Washington ?? surprisingly gets mix response whenever it gets played ( not by me I hasten to add

You also played the Del Larks Tezza now I can put a name to your Aviator LOL

You also played the Del Larks Tezza now I can put a name to your Aviator LOL

Good to get them out occasionally !!

yes dear door lady, probably same for me....in my top three of all-time with vicky baines and william powell....and i bet a fair few on here will say they're all crap!!.....GO ON THEN.....CAN OF WORMS OR WHAT?

On the contrary, three fantastic Northern Soul dancers. The Cecil Washington really does have everything.

Seen it described as a scene changing record and have to agree. It is awesome and always fills the floor when I hear it out, even usually frets me on floor

Vicky Baines is great Northern as is William Powell even though his singing is as bad as George Lemons.

Seen it described as a scene changing record and have to agree. It is awesome and always fills the floor when I hear it out, even usually frets me on floor

Vicky Baines is great Northern as is William Powell even though his singing is as bad as George Lemons.

Love how, on the William Powell, the Pianist comes in late after the break and has to catch up Lol !!

On the contrary, three fantastic Northern Soul dancers. The Cecil Washington really does have everything.

always does it for me pete, the intro & the fade out give the tune a unique twist...in between its full on detroit, yet, with a distinct difference, the bassline carries that tomangoes feel and the piano is almost honky tonk in, the instro break. remember well, hearing it at the casino, played under its suedonym...it just caught the imagination then...proof that amongst the pop paraphenalia and humdrum, digging a little deeper provided quality results, nonemoreso than in the hands of mr. searling, circa 78. i know you think that vicky baines sounds as if she was standing at the other end of the sink unit/echo chamber/studio when she cut country girl on may 17, 1966 but in a way it could easily be misconstrued as some latter day phil spector cast off, if anything it does have that aura of "niter tune" about it and as a subsequence, somewhat unfairly, dosnt get the recognition of the average crowd, not that their are particularly few copies of it....on the contrary, there appears to be quite a lot in circulation and hence, my belief that with its reputation it should be sharing more playlists.the nagging, incessent tambourine intro to heartaches, souveniers in metronomic time, leading into a hypnotic piano riff is pure essence of northern soul,..there's even a marimba lurking in there somewhere and adistinctly fragmented, edgy sax break,...so many unexpected ingredients!!, oh and lets not forget the monotone voice of mr. powell...it really pales into insignificance with such purile lyrics, but its all so predictably unpredictable,...thats why its a "does what it says on the tin" record.....and like the other two cohorts in this triumverate, it demands respect both as a dance floor winner, and a four figure aqquisition of prestige.

always does it for me pete, the intro & the fade out give the tune a unique twist...in between its full on detroit, yet, with a distinct difference, the bassline carries that tomangoes feel and the piano is almost honky tonk in, the instro break. remember well, hearing it at the casino, played under its suedonym...it just caught the imagination then...proof that amongst the pop paraphenalia and humdrum, digging a little deeper provided quality results, nonemoreso than in the hands of mr. searling, circa 78. i know you think that vicky baines sounds as if she was standing at the other end of the sink unit/echo chamber/studio when she cut country girl on may 17, 1966 but in a way it could easily be misconstrued as some latter day phil spector cast off, if anything it does have that aura of "niter tune" about it and as a subsequence, somewhat unfairly, dosnt get the recognition of the average crowd, not that their are particularly few copies of it....on the contrary, there appears to be quite a lot in circulation and hence, my belief that with its reputation it should be sharing more playlists.the nagging, incessent tambourine intro to heartaches, souveniers in metronomic time, leading into a hypnotic piano riff is pure essence of northern soul,..there's even a marimba lurking in there somewhere and adistinctly fragmented, edgy sax break,...so many unexpected ingredients!!, oh and lets not forget the monotone voice of mr. powell...it really pales into insignificance with such purile lyrics, but its all so predictably unpredictable,...thats why its a "does what it says on the tin" record.....and like the other two cohorts in this triumverate, it demands respect both as a dance floor winner, and a four figure aqquisition of prestige.

Ditto - Lol !!!

always does it for me pete, the intro & the fade out give the tune a unique twist...in between its full on detroit, yet, with a distinct difference, the bassline carries that tomangoes feel and the piano is almost honky tonk in, the instro break. remember well, hearing it at the casino, played under its suedonym...it just caught the imagination then...proof that amongst the pop paraphenalia and humdrum, digging a little deeper provided quality results, nonemoreso than in the hands of mr. searling, circa 78. i know you think that vicky baines sounds as if she was standing at the other end of the sink unit/echo chamber/studio when she cut country girl on may 17, 1966 but in a way it could easily be misconstrued as some latter day phil spector cast off, if anything it does have that aura of "niter tune" about it and as a subsequence, somewhat unfairly, dosnt get the recognition of the average crowd, not that their are particularly few copies of it....on the contrary, there appears to be quite a lot in circulation and hence, my belief that with its reputation it should be sharing more playlists.the nagging, incessent tambourine intro to heartaches, souveniers in metronomic time, leading into a hypnotic piano riff is pure essence of northern soul,..there's even a marimba lurking in there somewhere and adistinctly fragmented, edgy sax break,...so many unexpected ingredients!!, oh and lets not forget the monotone voice of mr. powell...it really pales into insignificance with such purile lyrics, but its all so predictably unpredictable,...thats why its a "does what it says on the tin" record.....and like the other two cohorts in this triumverate, it demands respect both as a dance floor winner, and a four figure aqquisition of prestige.

I'd loved that William Powell for many years and hadn't even noticed anything wrong with his voice until people on here started going on about it being poor, who cares, what a record!

I'd loved that William Powell for many years and hadn't even noticed anything wrong with his voice until people on here started going on about it being poor, who cares, what a record!

The innocence of the production and the raw quality of his voice are what make it what it is. You can imagine them getting to the recording studio and the bosses saying, 'you've got 30 minutes, make me something' - and didn't they just !!!

The innocence of the production and the raw quality of his voice are what make it what it is. You can imagine them getting to the recording studio and the bosses saying, 'you've got 30 minutes, make me something' - and didn't they just !!!

i second that emotion mate, a truely magnificent rollercoaster of a tune...it will always have its critics but to me it has all the elements required to establish a full dance floor...if it had secumbed to the bootleggers it would have been ground into the dust, but its acute rareity has been prevailent in protecting its status and long may that so be....

All three c/u Bobby Jason, Joe Matthews and the Inserts and Christine Cooper. Top tunes. RS has always listed CW and VB in his various top 5's or top 10's. Fair to say he may have known a thing or two.

yes dear door lady, probably same for me....in my top three of all-time with vicky baines and william powell....and i bet a fair few on here will say they're all crap!!.....GO ON THEN.....CAN OF WORMS OR WHAT?

They're all crap.

They're all crap.

... pardon?

yes dear door lady, probably same for me....in my top three of all-time with vicky baines and william powell....and i bet a fair few on here will say they're all crap!!.....GO ON THEN.....CAN OF WORMS OR WHAT?

They're all brilliant.

Strange one this considering it was such a monster back in the day, it does get a mixed reception at some venues

I'm amazed.

Played William Powell at Alderley Edge last weekend - went down a storm. Cecil Washington ?? surprisingly gets mix response whenever it gets played ( not by me I hasten to add

Its not really a surprise mate, the inhabitants of the East Midlands oldies scene were, in the main, on their 20 year sabbatical when it was the biggest record on the scene.

Thats why the response is like it is, because they dont remember it from their youth. As an observer of the aforementioned scene over the last 15 years I've seen countless examples of this phenomenon. Sad but true!

One of my fondest memories is of Richard Searling playing it on a midweek night upstairs at the Eight Bells in Mansfield in 1979. The best DJ and the biggest record on the scene, playing in a small room above a pub - it was like having a private audience with the pope!

A tune of tunes

In one.

Remember when he did the same at the Highland Room on the alldayer. All close up.

Its not really a surprise mate, the inhabitants of the East Midlands oldies scene were, in the main, on their 20 year sabbatical when it was the biggest record on the scene.

Thats why the response is like it is, because they dont remember it from their youth. As an observer of the aforementioned scene over the last 15 years I've seen countless examples of this phenomenon. Sad but true!

One of my fondest memories is of Richard Searling playing it on a midweek night upstairs at the Eight Bells in Mansfield in 1979. The best DJ and the biggest record on the scene, playing in a small room above a pub - it was like having a private audience with the pope!

A tune of tunes

As we say up north - get yer knackers round these.

Go on

derek x

Cecil Washington

William Powell

Christine Cooper

Its not really a surprise mate, the inhabitants of the East Midlands oldies scene were, in the main, on their 20 year sabbatical when it was the biggest record on the scene.

Thats why the response is like it is, because they dont remember it from their youth. As an observer of the aforementioned scene over the last 15 years I've seen countless examples of this phenomenon. Sad but true!

One of my fondest memories is of Richard Searling playing it on a midweek night upstairs at the Eight Bells in Mansfield in 1979. The best DJ and the biggest record on the scene, playing in a small room above a pub - it was like having a private audience with the pope!

A tune of tunes

In one.

or as pope ricardo would say....amen

Strange one this considering it was such a monster back in the day, it does get a mixed reception at some venues

So did "Benzine"!! remember you cutting that short at Leicester (Holy Cross) once massive but then some.

Regards

Its not really a surprise mate, the inhabitants of the East Midlands oldies scene were, in the main, on their 20 year sabbatical when it was the biggest record on the scene.

Thats why the response is like it is, because they dont remember it from their youth. As an observer of the aforementioned scene over the last 15 years I've seen countless examples of this phenomenon. Sad but true!

One of my fondest memories is of Richard Searling playing it on a midweek night upstairs at the Eight Bells in Mansfield in 1979. The best DJ and the biggest record on the scene, playing in a small room above a pub - it was like having a private audience with the pope!

A tune of tunes

Must remember it was Soul Sam that "gifted" that one among st others to RS

Edited December 7, 201212 yr by theothertosspot

As we say up north - get yer knackers round these.

Go on

derek x

Cecil Washington

William Powell

Christine Cooper

oh wow!......pure joy!!!.....well done dekka lad, made my friday night!

im afraid it doesnt

Ted, don't be afraid, it's gonna happen!!

Regards

i know ive quoted this before but here's the old chesnut again......never got to hear william powell at wigan but more than made up for lost time at the legendary ritz bank holiday all-niters......espescially R.O.T.R....may day 2001, north v south and yer man, kenny burrell spinning this to a rammed dancefloor....absolute 7th heaven!!