Whats the story on this? unreleased? cant find it listed anywhere

What a record!

Whats the story on this? unreleased? cant find it listed anywhere

What a record!

It is a nice record Steve. I'm pretty sure it did have a release - it's just rare.

 

Peter

 

on Dore 872?  I think Butch played it at last Lifeline.

Rare as hens teeth too.

on Dore 872?  I think Butch played it at last Lifeline.

 

Damn missed it :-(

Cant see it listed in either price guide

Think there's a vid of it on YouTube.........I know there is another copy in the UK as I bought 45s from someone who was raising the funds to acquire :-)

At least 3 copys then (Marco) great record reminds me of that Rare thing on True Glow Town   "Bolder n Bold Dagain -- Bolder N Bold Dagain"   Doh!!!!, can't remeber its name.

Marc Forrest has a copy I know cos I dribbled on it :-)

Marc Forrest has a copy I know cos I dribbled on it :-)

Really ?

It was thought to be unreleased by Dore and at one time so rare that the people who put out the cd "the northern soul of Dore" ,did not have enough info to establish the fact it was actually released .

There has been about 4 copies on eBay in the last yr ,plus about 3 or 4 that weren't on eBay that have been in collections .

The first legit 45 I heard of was " Big "George Mahoud and then Mike Vague from California who co-incidentally collects the label .

I offered my copy to Marc as a trade and he wasn't that fussed ,or maybe he already had it ?

Either way it exists on 45 ,but just how many copies are known ,well that's the million dollar question

Mike acquired a whole stack of Dore discs when he co-bought the Ray Dobard estate....I don't know how many copies would have surfaced on that load, but guaranteed not many, if any at all (barring Mike's own copy).

 

Another CA dealer had one that recently made it's way to London.....and two copies came out of a Bay Area collection late last year. They were brought to Whittier, and then shipped out elsewhere. I also saw a VG copy float through the bay last year, which I think was listed for the sweet soul flip.

Really ?

It was thought to be unreleased by Dore and at one time so rare that the people who put out the cd "the northern soul of Dore" ,did not have enough info to establish the fact it was actually released .

There has been about 4 copies on eBay in the last yr ,plus about 3 or 4 that weren't on eBay that have been in collections .

The first legit 45 I heard of was " Big "George Mahoud and then Mike Vague from California who co-incidentally collects the label .

I offered my copy to Marc as a trade and he wasn't that fussed ,or maybe he already had it ?

Either way it exists on 45 ,but just how many copies are known ,well that's the million dollar question

 

 

Don't believe what you read Nev.   The very same people said the Swans "Nitty Gritty City" was also unreleased, that isn't correct either.

Really ?

It was thought to be unreleased by Dore and at one time so rare that the people who put out the cd "the northern soul of Dore" ,did not have enough info to establish the fact it was actually released .

There has been about 4 copies on eBay in the last yr ,plus about 3 or 4 that weren't on eBay that have been in collections .

The first legit 45 I heard of was " Big "George Mahoud and then Mike Vague from California who co-incidentally collects the label .

I offered my copy to Marc as a trade and he wasn't that fussed ,or maybe he already had it ?

Either way it exists on 45 ,but just how many copies are known ,well that's the million dollar question

Think I got this mixed up with the other rare one on Dore, oops sorry

Think I got this mixed up with the other rare one on Dore, oops sorry

Milton James ..I already knew you were gonna post that up Paul

Now that's a tune !

Milton James ..I already knew you were gonna post that up Paul

Now that's a tune !

Lol yes and yes Nev

Lol yes and yes Nev

Different label design / colour and we must'nt make the mistake of confusing wind in my sails with the other one on blue Dore' - wind is blowing cos that's already been done

Yes it's on a blue label I beleive Nev and yes I know the difference between the other 2 but only just lol

Almost forgot to add to the mix that Marco Santucci has been playing it out for a while too .

 ,keep up Steve.!!! I told you my story on this when it was on e-bay.! That one went to.......now what's his name?  .Needles to say my bid got wiped out.

 

George Mahood played it at Redemption 2011,i think,that's when i first heard it .

 

 

Edited April 7, 201312 yr by KevH

 ,keep up Steve.!!! I told you my story on this when it was on e-bay.! That one went to.......now what's his name?  .Needles to say my bid got wiped out.

 

George Mahood played it at Redemption 2011,i think,that's when i first heard it .

 

 

Doh

You know my memory has gone mate, you need to make allowances

Mick H has a very interesting story on this

Mick H has a very interesting story on this

Mmmmm ....sounds very interesting ,this very interesting story ..I'm very interested

Mmmmm ....sounds very interesting ,this very interesting story ..I'm very interested

 

Are you sitting comfortably? 

Mmmmm ....sounds very interesting ,this very interesting story ..I'm very interested

Goes a bit like this.

He saw it listed for the sweet side by a guy in Detroit, opening bid $9.99, forgot to bid. Didn't sell so when guy re-listed it, he won it at $$$$. Record came in a jiffy bag broken in two, gutted to say the least.

 

There are at least 4 in the UK, Butch, Marco, George and I think Arthur or Sam also have it.

 

Been a big tune on the West Coast Lowrider scene for many years for the sweet flip, guess there are a fair few in some of their collections

Edited April 7, 201312 yr by Dave Thorley

Goes a bit like this.

He saw it listed for the sweet side by a guy in Detroit, opening bid $9.99, forgot to bid. Didn't sell so when guy re-listed it, he won it at $$$$. Record came in a jiffy bag broken in two, gutted to say the least.

There are at least 4 in the UK, Butch, Marco, George and I think Arthur or Sam also have it.

Been a big tune on the West Coast Lowrider scene for many years for the sweet flip, guess there are a fair few in some of their collections

Thanks Dave ,I had heard the story myself but was just building it up for those who hadn't

George ,Marco ,Butch ,Arthur ,Dave Ripolles and James Pogson and I'm sure someone else because another one went thru eBay unaccounted ..then of course as you rightly say ...The USA collectors / dj's .

Was gonna include myself but I'm too modest !

P.s

The guy who listed the NM copy on eBay bought a massive collection off a producer or the like and in it were 9 NM copies of Scorpio & his people .

Milton James ..I already knew you were gonna post that up Paul

Now that's a tune !

 

Little Johnny Hamilton tougher than that one as far as I know.

Anyone interested you can hear a MINT copy played at Boomerang next sat  , shameless plug eh! 

just to confirm, its true I dont own a copy. wont comment on nevs statement that I wasnt that fussed when he offered me his copy as I dont wanna diss the people who own and play it ;)

out of interest nev, did any of the above mentioned owners of a copy bought yours in the end or do you still have yours ?

cheers

At least 3 copys then (Marco) great record reminds me of that Rare thing on True Glow Town   "Bolder n Bold Dagain -- Bolder N Bold Dagain"   Doh!!!!, can't remeber its name.

 

That'll be Royal Robins - Something About You That Send Me..... also quite brilliant

just to confirm, its true I dont own a copy. wont comment on nevs statement that I wasnt that fussed when he offered me his copy as I dont wanna diss the people who own and play it ;)

out of interest nev, did any of the above mentioned owners of a copy bought yours in the end or do you still have yours ?

cheers

No comment Marc ,but I no longer have a copy

Anyone interested you can hear a MINT copy played at Boomerang next sat , shameless plug eh!

You can't get better than mint Arthur

Well apart from a quick fit fitter

 

No comment Marc ,but I no longer have a copy

 

its a good and desirable record nev, atb

Been playing this out for about 7 years, initially on a vinyl carver off the Dore CD. Was talking to Butch about it and discussing the possibility of there being a legit studio disc out here somewhere, so decided to put a very speculative search on ebay for it which I quickly forgot about. Could hardly believe it when some 4 or 5 years later I get an alert and up pops an issue. I bought it of Tommy Potts. A few months later I described it to George who had just come back from a US trip where a contact of his had played him an obscure and expensive Superbs track. it was the same record and he snapped up the second known copy in the UK. Recently a little batch have turned up... and yes, Mick has a story of his own to tell one day.

Edited April 12, 201312 yr by marco

For the record - the first person I heard play it was Keb at Jo Jos, who played it for 3 or 4 weeks while Butch was guesting there regularly and more soul was being played.

For the record - the first person I heard play it was Keb at Jo Jos, who played it for 3 or 4 weeks while Butch was guesting there regularly and more soul was being played.

What format was Keb playing it off then ??

What format was Keb playing it off then ??

Some kind of papyrus scroll.

Some kind of papyrus scroll.

It was a legit question based on Marcos previous post.

If you read it through ,you might make sense of it Tony ??

It was a legit question based on Marcos previous post.

If you read it through ,you might make sense of it Tony ??

Sorry, mate couldn't resist!

Goes a bit like this.

He saw it listed for the sweet side by a guy in Detroit, opening bid $9.99, forgot to bid. Didn't sell so when guy re-listed it, he won it at $$$$. Record came in a jiffy bag broken in two, gutted to say the least.

 

There are at least 4 in the UK, Butch, Marco, George and I think Arthur or Sam also have it.

 

Been a big tune on the West Coast Lowrider scene for many years for the sweet flip, guess there are a fair few in some of their collections

 

Yes Dave, I heard this quite a few years ago from a guy in CA but he would'nt sell it and I kinda forgot about it. I know Mike Noriega was going on about it for sometime but could'nt confirm wether he had it or not. Great record and reminds me a little of Originals "Financial Affair" in places..

Mick H has a very interesting story on this

 

It's a tragic story and not one for the faint hearted - I almost cried when he showed me the photo of his three bits :-(

I'd have done more than cry if he'd shown me his 'three bits'

What format was Keb playing it off then ??

 

It was when he was going through his carver-only phase

It was when he was going through his carver-only phase

 

 

Great times

 

Note that this original 45 has a different intro to the Dore' CD version ....

Mediocre record. First Sir Joe and now the Superbs. Overrated and worshipped only because it's rare. Do your hearing aids have flat batteries?

Mediocre record. First Sir Joe and now the Superbs. Overrated and worshipped only because it's rare. Do your hearing aids have flat batteries?

 

I can't wait to see what the reaction is to this.  

Edited April 16, 201312 yr by Pete S

Gonna do one better than Arthur's plug, there'll be 2 "overrated and worshipped only because it's rare" copies of this record at the next Inner City Soul

 

Note that this original 45 has a different intro to the Dore' CD version ....

To save me a bit of time Eddie, what's the difference?

Mediocre record. First Sir Joe and now the Superbs. Overrated and worshipped only because it's rare. Do your hearing aids have flat batteries?

 

I totally agree but the sweet soul side rules. I know a couple of older sweet soul collectors who have had this for many years. I said this in the last thread about the record.

To save me a bit of time Eddie, what's the difference?

The intro ;)

funny eh!, i don't really rate the sweet side, i love most of the Superbs tracks but one or 2 i find a little too sweet if you get my drift, i do think the "wind in my sails" is more than a credible tune & would stand well played at any time on the rare soul scene. Gotta say that Dore lable was phenomenal tho