Popular Post Swifty Posted January 21, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 21, 2014 Just wondering what folk think about having a topic just for giving values on records ? I know at some point a lot of us have asked what the current rate for something is , I know I have , only to be told by some that I should look on Popsike/Ebay/Discogs etc. Well believe it or not I've done that and still not come to a conclusion. I wanted to put a record up for sale on here (SS) and when I checked various sites it varied from £30 - £170 hence my confusion, obviously I would have thought the £170 was right though , anyway sold the bugger for £17 on ebay !!! that showed 'em ! Just a thought and I do understand that at the end of the day it's only worth what somebody is prepared to pay but may give some of us that aren't experts a bit of an idea. Plus if it was on a separate thread if it bothers you , you don't have to contribute. Just a thought , lets see what you think and Mike I hope you don't mind me asking? Cheers Swifty 8 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Good idea 3 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Moxey25 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 If you want to no true value ask p smith above 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Swifty Posted January 21, 2014 Author Share Posted January 21, 2014 If you want to no true value ask p smith above I agree but Pete will get pissed off with me emailing him everytime I want to sell something 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dobber Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 If your buying you want em cheap,if your selling,you want top money! And most ss members do at least one of them,so whether we will get a true picture,who knows! Worth a go though! For me personally I just go for an average value on popsike,and work from that dependant on condition. 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
ajb Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 what sort of thread are you thinking of? something that is formal, or a "how much is this worth?" type. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Swifty Posted January 21, 2014 Author Share Posted January 21, 2014 (edited) Was thinking formal , I know it's hard but maybe worth a try ? or even a between it's worh between £ & £ if you know what I mean Maybe after 10 Years we could have Soulsource price guide ( that'll fook some sellers up ) just a thought after a couple of vinos ! Swifty Edited January 21, 2014 by SWIFTY Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Premium Stuff Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 No one person has a handle on the "true" value of things as is suggested above. Different people buy and sell in different markets - sometimes very different. Some folk only buy auction pieces from the most long-established dealers. Others chase bargains, regardless of condition. Blah, blah. There are multiple markets - not just a buyers market and a sellers market. Sorry - think I'm in a grumpy mood Richard 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
ajb Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 i think its doable, but it be a mammoth task, and under taking. where do you start? how much space is it going to take up? a great idea though, it'll be interesting to see what ideas get thrown up over the next few days. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Benji Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Sounds good in theory. But realistically such a sub-forum will go down the "endless discussion" road. There's no such thing as "The price" today. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Gogs Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 I like the thinking behind this, BUT everybody has different values for different records. If the poster doesn't think that the first value offered is gospel and waits to get a few opinions in (as long as other people post) and takes the general consensuses into account it might work. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Kjw Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Sounds good in theory. But realistically such a sub-forum will go down the "endless discussion" road. There's no such thing as "The price" today. Benji's right - It will probably result in a longer thread than the OVO debate Plus it could result in less records being offered for sale on here which doesn't benefit buyers or sellers 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
davidwapples Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 values depend on if you are buying or selling ;) 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 If you ask on here you'll get an idea of how Soul Source members value a record (as opposed to various price guide books etc). If what you want is a true idea of what Soul Source members will pay for a record, however, do an advanced search for it on the site and limit the search to the sales area. As long as members follow the guidance in that part of the forum and leave the prices visible you'll get an accurate idea. Since the guidance is relatively new and some people are still deleting prices, I guess it will take a while to really build up to the point where it's invaluable, but it's a good start. 3 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
NEV Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 We could do it like they do in the car world.. Private price Trade price Dealer price! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Great idea, particuarly for those new to the scene trying to build a record collection. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Raresoul45s Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 (edited) Some good ideas but completely unworkable, who would update it? it would be a full time job. I sold records a year ago for double what you could get today and vice versa its an ever evolving market be it up or down in many instances. There's also the condition which is a huge factor and lots not all, but many have no idea how to grade a 45 and that is a huge factor when taking your position on price. Cheers Darren Edited January 22, 2014 by BROWNIE 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Andy Kempster Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 I think it's a great idea and don't understand why it should get over complicated. I know valuations are all subjective but surely it would help people land at an informed decision based on other peoples opinions Pretty much how a lot of people on here do things already but would keep things under one roof and potentially reduce some of the exhorbitant pricing on not so rare or valuable records which are currently hiked up for no other reason than JM got that for it so in that case so should I scenarios just an opinion but I would welcome it with my limited knowledge all the best Andy Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Popular Post Pete S Posted January 22, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 22, 2014 It's no big deal is it? People ask for values all the time, I do myself. Just put all the value questions under one topic, it doesn't have to be a database or an in depth examination of a particular record's history, just ask how much you ought to be paying for it and see what answers you get. And not all dealers have an agenda, I can assure you of that, if they did I'd be quoting prices twice as high as I actually charge. Sharing the knowledge and information, that's what it should be all about. (This would also make it easier to comment on particular records in sales post instead of posting on the actual topiic, which is frowned upon) 5 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mike Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 (edited) It's no big deal is it? People ask for values all the time, I do myself. Just put all the value questions under one topic, it doesn't have to be a database or an in depth examination of a particular record's history, just ask how much you ought to be paying for it and see what answers you get. And not all dealers have an agenda, I can assure you of that, if they did I'd be quoting prices twice as high as I actually charge. Sharing the knowledge and information, that's what it should be all about. (This would also make it easier to comment on particular records in sales post instead of posting on the actual topiic, which is frowned upon) not makes sense for a new topic for each question, rather than a lengthy topic which would take x amount of minutes to go thru (and some have mentioned above) sort of what have already got now ? Edited January 22, 2014 by mike re-read thread Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 not makes sense for a new topic for each question, rather than a lengthy topic which would take x amount of minutes to go thru sort of what have already got now ? I guess so! I'm just against people who don't think we should discuss prices! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Modernsoulsucks Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 When members download tracks into Refosoul they could add valuation in box provided then any discussion could continue on that record ?I just put £10 on "Out on the Floor"ROD Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Quinvy Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 If your heart rules your head [me] and you have paid top money for a 45, you will always try and get your money back, it's human nature. That's explains a lot of the high prices in the sales section. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mike Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 When members download tracks into Refosoul they could add valuation in box provided then any discussion could continue on that record ? I just put £10 on "Out on the Floor" ROD yep theres a very nifty ( )wiki style built in price guide in refosoul also the comments on each 45 then get posted in the forums as well I don't bang on about it much currently as its still an ongoing project 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
KevH Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 (edited) I guess so! I'm just against people who don't think we should discuss prices! Discussion on prices is ok,its when sales are fkkd over.(got this for £1,its never worth any more etc etc). Anyway asking a value still only gives you a ballpark figure either buying or selling.Its up to the buyer and seller to agree in the end. Edited January 22, 2014 by KevH 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Spacehopper Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 yeah good idea..already being done on facebook..group called rare soul valuations and one called rnb wants and valuations...but again the valuations are still all over the place Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Popular Post Chalky Posted January 22, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 22, 2014 You don't need it, all that is needed is for sellers to leave the prices on their sold items instead of removing and replacing with sold. The site is fully searchable and any query would be found in no time with the most recent price. 5 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Windlesoul Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 (edited) I agree with chalky and an earlier post. If the search doesn't reveal anything then post up. However there is another Facebook site for valuations as another option if you dont want soul source members opinions for any reason. Edited January 22, 2014 by Windlesoul Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 .... do an advanced search for it on the site and limit the search to the sales area. As long as members follow the guidance in that part of the forum and leave the prices visible you'll get an accurate idea.... You don't need it, all that is needed is for sellers to leave the prices on their sold items instead of removing and replacing with sold. The site is fully searchable and any query would be found in no time with the most recent price. I agree with chalky. Can anyone please give me a rough valuation on this cloak of invisibility I'm wearing? As you can see from above it's in full working order and in excellent condition. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Can anyone please give me a rough valuation on this cloak of invisibility I'm wearing? As you can see from above it's in full working order and in excellent condition. Happens all the time to me. Just have to shrug your shoulders and hope one day someone will notice. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Happens all the time to me. Just have to shrug your shoulders and hope one day someone will notice. Who said that! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Who said that! 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Modernsoulsucks Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 What can you do Chalky !!! It's in guidelines. I can't check every minute of the day. Just found a whole topic removed. ROD Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 (edited) I thought everyone had bought those wonderful price guides that the record dealers print up!!!! Always thought they were a waste of money! But at least the bootleg guide is of some use. I use popsike and the best thing is just check the prices on sales lists and average it out. Edited January 22, 2014 by Guest Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Swifty Posted January 22, 2014 Author Share Posted January 22, 2014 If you ask on here you'll get an idea of how Soul Source members value a record (as opposed to various price guide books etc). If what you want is a true idea of what Soul Source members will pay for a record, however, do an advanced search for it on the site and limit the search to the sales area. As long as members follow the guidance in that part of the forum and leave the prices visible you'll get an accurate idea. Since the guidance is relatively new and some people are still deleting prices, I guess it will take a while to really build up to the point where it's invaluable, but it's a good start. Fair point Godz , never really thought of that , doh! Maybe it was a silly idea really 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Modernsoulsucks Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 I thought everyone had bought those wonderful price guides that the record dealers print up!!!! Always thought they were a waste of money! But at least the bootleg guide is of some use. I use popsike and the best thing is just check the prices on sales lists and average it out. I use this equation N = R* - fp - ne - fl - fi - fc - L N is obviously price and the rest is no doubt self-explanatory. ROD 3 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Fair point Godz , never really thought of that , doh! Maybe it was a silly idea really I'm just glad that at least one person is paying attention 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Swifty Posted January 22, 2014 Author Share Posted January 22, 2014 I'm just glad that at least one person is paying attention Unfortunately I've got to , I started the thread (or Swifty did or was it DJ Keith in the 3rd person ) 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
DeltaSouth Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 discogs has a lot of value information. popsike as well. it seems an "appraisal thread" in a forum would be a great idea. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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