Having thought this was great when I saw it referenced on another thread here on Soul Source, I was hoping to hear of a 7" release. I'd commented on the official video thread on YouTube and having just looked in noticed I'd had a reply from David Pinches to say it had now come out a few days ago.

Gutted to discover that I can't find it in stock anywhere - anyone got any knowledge of where I can try?

Meanwhile, just because it's so good, here's the link again to the tune:

 

7 minutes ago, chris anderton said:

Phil,

I guess over the next few months the record will find it's level as any duplicate copies will come up for sale. I would suggest that that level would be nowhere near 200 quid...nearer 50 maybe.

Chris

 

I’d say you’re right Chris, I had a look this morning and all 7 inch copies on Discogs have gone since yesterday, a future collectible indeed. 

I think more likely that the chancers have just removed it from sale after bad publicity rather than it has sold....but who knows!

Chris

Hey everyone, 

I understand all this chat is relevant to the record in question but we’re straying a little bit away from the meaning of this sub forum. We’d like the wants posts to stick to finding the record in question any other discussion please direct it to the ‘Box’ subforum.

Nice one!

1 hour ago, chris anderton said:

I think more likely that the chancers have just removed it from sale after bad publicity rather than it has sold....but who knows!

Chris

No sales history so presume he removed it, one for sale £156

Edited January 10, 20196 yr by chalky

"You can please some of the people all of the time, 😀

you can please all of the people some of the time, 😁

but you can't please all of the people all of the time. ☹️

Quote By John Lyndgate.

( I wonder if HE collected Records Too ?)

55 minutes ago, chalky said:

No sales history sompresume he removed it, one for sale £156

Discogs history takes some time to get registered

1 hour ago, chris anderton said:

I think more likely that the chancers have just removed it from sale after bad publicity rather than it has sold....but who knows!

Chris

I don't think so

21 minutes ago, Scootboy said:

I don't think so

If it did sell then my copy can go on there

If you want to sell,feel free to do it,

it is a free market

Anyone interested & quick it looks like Dusty Groove have some copies. 

Let's hope that it will work this time,

I also got an email from them one hour ago

Me too ???

6 hours ago, Scootboy said:

If you want to sell,feel free to do it,

it is a free market

according to discogs it has NEVER sold

If you buy a record from discogs today,

it will get registered in the history some weeks later

 

This is more exciting than the stock exchange. 

4 minutes ago, Scootboy said:

If you buy a record from discogs today,

it will get registered in the history some weeks later

 

Its updated when the invoice for your fees is paid so we will see

Dusty Grooves have some, how many I don’t know. 

44 minutes ago, John Siret said:

Anyone interested & quick it looks like Dusty Groove have some copies. 

sold out again

Looks like they went within half an hour. 

I didn't buy one as had one previous. 

25 minutes ago, chalky said:

Its updated when the invoice for your fees is paid so we will see

Just checked my discogs dashboard,

I have orders from second and fourth of January that haven't been registered yet

3 minutes ago, John Siret said:

Looks like they went within half an hour. 

I didn't buy one as had one previous. 

i dont need it either just thought i`d have a crafty peek

11 minutes ago, dave pinch said:

i dont need it either just thought i`d have a crafty peek

I got one half hour or so ago, hopefully. 

11 hours ago, chalky said:

I got one half hour or so ago, hopefully. 

Me too 🙏

21 hours ago, James Rice said:

Hey everyone, 

I understand all this chat is relevant to the record in question but we’re straying a little bit away from the meaning of this sub forum. We’d like the wants posts to stick to finding the record in question any other discussion please direct it to the ‘Box’ subforum.

Nice one!

posts from the want topic have now been moved and merged into this topic

end result - one topic in the box forum

please use this forum rather than the sales posts for any follow on discussion

 

 

another on discogs at £75 this morning now sold..still one on at 100 tho...wonder if the 4 copies on yesterday really sold..seems too much of a coincidence for them all to be taken down..we should start seeing bonofide sales ratings on discogs to see if they actually did sell

I read threads like this with such incredulous belief ! as to how people are turning this into a cottage industry of percieved collectors arse raping other collectors to make a fast buck ? It's obvious that a large proportion of the original buyers have no affiliation with the product in the first place and are indeed just out to make a fast buck ! Therefore why  (and i think some people are already waking up and smelling the coffee) don't people just sit back , wait and refuse to be mugged, the chancers would soon have to rethink their business plan !

N.B Records are like buses you miss one another comes along very soon.

Dave

 

Edited January 11, 20196 yr by Louise
spelling!

42 minutes ago, Louise said:

I read threads like this with such incredulous belief ! as to how people are turning this into a cottage industry of percieved collectors arse rapping other collectors to make a fast buck ? It's obvious that a large proportion of the original buyers have no affiliation with the product in the first place and are indeed just out to make a fast buck ! Therefore why  (and i think some people are already waking up and smelling the coffee) don't people just sit back , wait and refuse to be mugged, the chancers would soon have to rethink their business plan !

N.B Records are like buses you miss another comes along very soon.

Dave

 

Very well put Dave, can’t believe the greed of some of these people. I’ve got no issues with anyone finding records from back in the past and making money but from new releases leave them to the people who want to own them and play them for there own pleasure.

Mick Perrins 

3 hours ago, constellation161 said:

Very well put Dave, can’t believe the greed of some of these people. I’ve got no issues with anyone finding records from back in the past and making money but from new releases leave them to the people who want to own them and play them for there own pleasure.

Mick Perrins 

And there you have it......agree entirely.

Doing the legwork, expensive flights, dangerous neighborhoods........fair play if you find a 50 count box and make a bit of money.

As for the new release bandits, sitting by their computer snagging copies that others could buy and enjoy........well it becomes a 50 c(o)unt box doesn't it?

 

Cheers,

Mark R

Edited January 11, 20196 yr by Mark R

While I'm still waiting for my copy,

can anyone who owns the record,tell me how good the sound quality on this 7" release is?

Does the vinyl itself,the labels etc look as they should,

there are some new releases that are horrible

 

32 minutes ago, Scootboy said:

While I'm still waiting for my copy,

can anyone who owns the record,tell me how good the sound quality on this 7" release is?

Does the vinyl itself,the labels etc look as they should,

there are some new releases that are horrible

 

I thought the sound quality was excellent. The label also fine, just black on a silver/grey background. Outer edge of label very smooth, the inner edge just a tiny bit puckered. Vinyl surface immaculate. Plain white paper sleeve.

9 minutes ago, seano said:

I thought the sound quality was excellent. The label also fine, just black on a silver/grey background. Outer edge of label very smooth, the inner edge just a tiny bit puckered. Vinyl surface immaculate. Plain white paper sleeve.

Agree fully.  Nothing over exciting as labels go but then it doesn't need to be as the record speaks for itself. That said, other than the cheap paper sleeve that most of us, I imagine, discard I'm sure you wont be disappointed.

Dusty Groove just informed me that the order I made yesterday,has been shipped,

total cost including tracked shipping to Europe,

15 dollars,

not bad

2 minutes ago, Scootboy said:

15 dollars,

not bad

pleased for you, glad you got a copy at a fair price

Cheers,

I will probably give it as a gift to a friend of me who likes this kind of music but he doesn't buy too often,

I'm waiting one copy (cheap again) which I bought ten days ago,

the seller was on holidays and posted late

I know these record producers need to get rid of the tunes but surely limiting the amount each dealer/collector can buy from source might give real collectors a chance or am I being a little nieve 😂😂

1 hour ago, Ted Massey said:

I know these record producers need to get rid of the tunes but surely limiting the amount each dealer/collector can buy from source might give real collectors a chance or am I being a little nieve 😂😂

Blimey Ted you are a little  You have records in your box that were made, or at least in circulation(less than 250).... bet you wouldn't swap your George Pepp

Edited January 13, 20196 yr by Blackpoolsoul
Typo

At last

i had 5 copies..sold 4 for £25 each as they came from the usa to friends not on internet and a couple of local guys and kept one myself that came from crazybeat

Edited January 16, 20196 yr by dave pinch

For anyone still looking for a copy. First one I've actually seen go to auction rather than the previous ’buy it now ’ option .

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F254073053912

Possibly old news to a lot on here but a re-press is due in March.  Some dealers already advertising and taking pre-orders. Lots more going up on Discogs and eBay mostly at reduced prices. 

This is good news

18 minutes ago, Fishdockroad said:

Possibly old news to a lot on here but a re-press is due in March.  Some dealers already advertising and taking pre-orders. Lots more going up on Discogs and eBay mostly at reduced prices. 

soon been a change of heart there..its only been out 3 weeks and 2 weeks ago they wernt goin to repress it.. lets hope its a bit different from the 1st press as some guys right or wrong paid over the top for it... so glad i sold my spares at cost

10 minutes ago, dave pinch said:

soon been a change of heart there..its only been out 3 weeks and 2 weeks ago they wernt goin to repress it.. lets hope its a bit different from the 1st press as some guys right or wrong paid over the top for it... so glad i sold my spares at cost

Yes, I was wondering about that Dave. Do they have to make it clear its a second press? What has happened in the past? I know when sourcing records before the internet I've since learnt that a couple of mine have been second press/ re-issue and people even arguing/discussing which was first. As you say a lot of people, rightly or wrongly, have paid over and above initial selling price just to get one in their collection. 

Different presses,have different Matrix / Runout,   

sometimes,they also have different labels,

a recent example

 

If it is from the same master it will still be a first press.  It will only be a reissue if a new master with a new matrix number etc is used.  

21 minutes ago, chalky said:

If it is from the same master it will still be a first press.  It will only be a reissue if a new master with a new matrix number etc is used.  

We had that with the JD Hall's, as he used the same masters 25 years later.😫

If I like a new release I tend to buy it either when issued or on pre-sale, but even then I do miss some.  I think its the norm for independant labels to only press between 250/300 copies as in reality the market is quite small and they don't want to be left with a load of unsold dead stock.  It's great for a label where interest its sales requires a re-run, but I don't understand the snobbery of why people to want a clear distinction between the two presses when there is only a few months between the runs.  If people pay an inflatied price for a record, surely that's just between the buyer and seller.  Even if someone paid a large amount for a recent release, surely they're going to say they bought it at its initial sale price?

Edited January 22, 20196 yr by John Reed

I might buy all of the newly pressed 45s and destroy all but one and post up video evidence ?

Who will have a scarce copy then    lol

I'd just like tp play devil's advocate with the issue of this second press.

Point 1. Has the demand for a second press been created by the chancers buying up multiple copies i.e not enough to go around ?

Point 2. If the chancers panic and sell their spare copies off quick would this forfill the demand and thus make the repress unnecessary ?

Just a thought ?

Dave

 

Does it really matter if it is the same or not, it is a new release, it should be about the music and not what some greedy part time dealer can make out of someone.  People would rather see their own greed protected than others getting a copy of a brand new recording.   I hope some get their fingers burnt, it will serve them right. It should never be about the collector and people exploiting others.  If it was limited to one copy each that would be fine, but no people buy multiple copies to expolit others  

I hope the second run is from the same master and they look identical.

Edited January 22, 20196 yr by chalky

1 hour ago, chalky said:

Does it really matter if it is the same or not, it is a new release, it should be about the music and not what some greedy part time dealer can make out of someone.  People would rather see their own greed protected than others getting a copy of a brand new recording.   I hope some get their fingers burnt, it will serve them right. It should never be about the collector and people exploiting others.  If it was limited to one copy each that would be fine, but no people buy multiple copies to expolit others  

I hope the second run is from the same master and they look identical.

Couldn't agree more that it's about the music but my question was one I'd wondered about for quite a while. Away from records, I collect a number of different things were knowledge really does matter so when friends are asking the very question I asked before diving in and paying for an overpriced copy from "some greedy part-time collector" and I don't know the answer I thought I'd try and clarify it for them. As it is the prices have already started to tumble upon the news of the future release,  something I've already shared amongst this group in the hope that those chasing it still can, make their own minds up as to whether or not to jump in or wait. Thanks for your first reply Chalky  (If it is from the same master it will still be a first press.  It will only be a reissue if a new master with a new matrix number etc is used. ) I didn't know that and so my knowledge of these things has increased.