I said this on another topic.....

Ignore the rare and the trophy records. There are tons of 45s at sensible affordable prices that would make a cracking nighter.  Might not be new discoveries but many unknown to the majority cause the majority just don’t go digging anymore. They are force fed certain records, a certain collecting ethos, just like you are force fed the news agenda.  John Bowie it ain’t even rare, you’ve heard it a million times, switch of this force fed narrative and just go and dig, be that in record boxes or just listening to random cheap sound files on websites, open your ears and your minds. 

I don't understand the obsession over some the supposedly rarest yet most over played records on the scene....not just the northern classic oldies scene but go to any crossover or supposedly upfront venue and you will hear the same records month after month, year after year.  There is no imagination, hot boxers, little knowledge amongst the Djs because they've never had to dig, just go out and buy the big records Butch for Andy Dyson for example have found.  The classic side, same big records you've heard a million times over 40/50 years.

Would you listen to an episode of Top of The Pops from 1978 every week?  No you wouldn't so why do it with soul records?  As I said there are tons never played, virtually unknown to the masses, records that would make a great all-nighter.  Some of the fodder passed off as Northern Soul at some of the nighters now would never have got played just a few years ago, they are pretty poor but they cost a few bob.  

Has it come down to what a Dj spends to make them now as a DJ?  Must be because it isn't because of what they are playing in some cases.

1 hour ago, Solidsoul said:

Maybe this one would fit?   I have had it my collection for many years.  I was in the small room at Lowton a few years back and my mate said "this sounds very good, it must be another version of the Bobby Patterson record".  It was playing loud and we had to go a find out what this new version was?  Yes it was Bobby Patterson record we already had, but sounded so good after all these years of never playing it, and listening to it playing loud!!

Fabulous track, on Bobby P, I pulled this out the other day, literally first time in 20 years, an oldie of massive proportions, and one I'd bring back, should be on that other thread we had going last week, ones you would ditch, tracks to bring back...

I totally missed that Jonny Benavidez track, that is wonderful isnt it...

 

nother cheap as chips new release absolute banging Northern soul 

 

some nice midtempo crossover/modern? 

 

one more older northern record I picked up for no money recently, would love to hear out loud in a big.room with lots of sweaty dancers throwing themselves around. BYW I'd never heard it till I saw it and picked it up.

 

 

Be patient! It's got a slow start but once it kicks in it's a great powerhouse of a record. It did get played in the early 90's at various nighters. Not to be confused with there other record with a very similar title!

No Cure For The Blues -The Lamp Sisters - Duke💫

GET In!!

 

Never heard this out but a great track 

 

2 hours ago, Mal C said:

GET In!!

 

That Shirley Wahls deffo got a few plays out in the 80s. Great tune though, would be happy to hear it out again 

There are loads of quality records to buy on a budget, I think dj's and to a certain extent collectors have become a little  lazy ( maybe the internet played a part in that ) do it the proper way, look through boxes , tape swap , badger reputable dealers to do you a sales tape of there cheaper stuff, go to the states, go to your mates to listen to their stuff,  work hard at it !

7 hours ago, Dysonsoul said:

There are loads of quality records to buy on a budget, I think dj's and to a certain extent collectors have become a little  lazy ( maybe the internet played a part in that ) do it the proper way, look through boxes , tape swap , badger reputable dealers to do you a sales tape of there cheaper stuff, go to the states, go to your mates to listen to their stuff,  work hard at it !

Spot on!

10 hours ago, Dysonsoul said:

There are loads of quality records to buy on a budget, I think dj's and to a certain extent collectors have become a little  lazy ( maybe the internet played a part in that ) do it the proper way, look through boxes , tape swap , badger reputable dealers to do you a sales tape of there cheaper stuff, go to the states, go to your mates to listen to their stuff,  work hard at it !

Andy will you do me a sales tape of your cheaper stuff please. 😄

I'm often at Tim Browns Anglo American warehouse in Todmorden and there's nearly always collectors going through boxes of singles. You can also try before you buy.

Bob

Edited September 26, 20231 yr by Jessie Pinkman

10 hours ago, Dysonsoul said:

There are loads of quality records to buy on a budget, I think dj's and to a certain extent collectors have become a little  lazy ( maybe the internet played a part in that ) do it the proper way, look through boxes , tape swap , badger reputable dealers to do you a sales tape of there cheaper stuff, go to the states, go to your mates to listen to their stuff,  work hard at it !

And this topic confirms what we are saying with the requests for examples rather than go digging which is what this topic was about. 

Here’s three recent £20 or less additions to the collection. Loads still out there!
 

 

 

Edited September 26, 20231 yr by Keamus

On 21/09/2023 at 12:38, Mal C said:

More than plenty... and allot from artists that have many collectables to their name, I mean in plays out, not always rarity.  For example,

You can get Margie Joseph "Punish Me" on Volt for a tenner... which is an utterly brilliant record, that's got to be a steal given how much you pay for  "I'll Always Love you", or "Nobody" and the rest of her Atlantic sides, and thats an easy one.  How about Moody Scott - We've Gotta Save it on SS7, cheap as chips, but the totally right groove... two stunning tracks for what 20/25 quid all in... 

Ignored sixties sides, The Jammers - Doin' The Look on Jubilee, thats under a tenner, but musically right up there, how about the The Ideals - I Got Lucky, seriously good chicago soul, for what £10/15 at most...

These are all 'known' as well, if  The festivals - You got the Makings on Smash... can fetch so much, having been a five pound record, these have to be a steal right?   I could go on...

Mal, A massive thumbs up for The Ideals "I got lucky" from me. Just wonderful.

4 hours ago, Chalky said:

And this topic confirms what we are saying with the requests for examples rather than go digging which is what this topic was about. 

I said there are hardly any quality allnighter tunes below 3 figures any more. And so far I'm not proven wrong in my opinion. Some nice songs posted in this thread but I wouldn't play majority of them at an allnighter.

30 minutes ago, Benji said:

I said there are hardly any quality allnighter tunes below 3 figures any more. And so far I'm not proven wrong in my opinion. Some nice songs posted in this thread but I wouldn't play majority of them at an allnighter.

I have to disagree

I personally, absolutely love playing cheap records loud & I'm pleased that someone else thinks that Manhattans track sounds great too! Whenever I've put a mix together for my mixcloud, I always tried to put a spotlight on stuff I love but dont get to play or hear out often so if you want to hear some of them message me and I'll send you it.
I'm a firm believer of A.T.B being by far the best format... It just makes sense in my eyes, done right can be complimentary to the selections and generally gives room to allow everything to breathe. 

Great cheap one I was buzzing to have heard out and was surprised cause of its price and availability was at the last Swinton, Fireman Phil played Roosevelt Grier - C'mon Cupid sort of middle of the set.

Anyway here are a small grip of tunes I really adore that are probably overlooked cos they're just cheap.

A budget Okeh oldie which has a really fun back up vocal and a nice bounce to it that sounds amazing over a big sound system and some genuinely interesting drum patterns which I think some dancers interpret well and has an addictive quality to it. 

Another is one of them Stax adjacent sounds which I think is massively undervalued and not heard enough. One I've been playing in sets for a bit and actually bought my friend a copy because it's so cheap and needs more plays.
 

Bangin uptempo R&B which has all the facets of a couple of mainstay Northern in-demanders, I love this and can imagine it going down well with the right crowd.

Criminally priced moody 70s stepper, I always say Leon sounds like he has the spirit of Gil of coming through him, I also remember seeing a video of a semi recent event on Facebook but can't remember where and it was getting a lot of praise, amazing track anyway... I play this pretty regularly and rate it highly but you have to make sure you get the demo copy and not the issue. 

I could do this all day haha.

 

Edited September 27, 20231 yr by Clee93

I'm probably not the best person to respond to this.  However  given the vast number of records out there, I find it hard to believe it is impossible to put together a set of expensive, inexpensive, known, unknown tunes which punters enjoy.

4 hours ago, Benji said:

I said there are hardly any quality allnighter tunes below 3 figures any more. And so far I'm not proven wrong in my opinion. Some nice songs posted in this thread but I wouldn't play majority of them at an allnighter.

As I said, where these quality nighters? I wouldn't knock the 100 club but 'rhythm and soul', its has never been about big nighter records, has it?

This is a really good one, on Brunswick too.... cool record.

Does anybody know any books or reference on the Brunswick productions that were bought into the company after all their home-grown successes, which were colossal of course. In the later period of the label, they bought more productions in, which kind of lost their sound, I’d love to find out more about that part of the labels history. I have Robert Pruters book of course.

 

On 23/09/2023 at 07:15, Chalky said:

Andy Dyson played a good few at Ashton, he played another batch on Dean's show as did Tim Ashibende who played an hour all under £50

Being a regular to Deans show, there have been a few spots of late, including Tim's which played some 'cheaper' tracks  - the vast majority I've not heard before and all have been great. 

It makes for a good variance and satisfies the need for hearing new sounds - they're also all we mere mortals can afford.....

 

All nighters are now a much smaller proportion of events, so "niter tune" is not necessarily the bench mark everyone looks for. Anyhow two for the pot, the more the merrier. An overdue thread. 

 

This would be good enough for any allnighter dancefloor! This is my favorite version. It was also covered with a slower cut by the Temptations and another great dancer version by the Contours. 

Also the flip Malinda is a great crossover soul type sound💫

Edited September 27, 20231 yr by Solidsoul

a great record under £50. 

GREAT CROSSOVER!!!!? One of his best!

 

Personally I believe what this thread is saying is 

 

Dean’s show has been mentioned as a great place to hear new and not necessarily rare and expensive records. Got to agree with this sentiment and this one ticks both boxes 

 

Here's two I'd dance to if they were played, both in the ultra modest price range. 

 

This is a great thread, but thus far most of the recommendations are 60s discs so in the interest of representing the modern corner here are a couple I’ve recently purchased. Probably well known in some circles, but new to me in last few months.

 

Here's two tunes, both well below three figures, mid to uptempo (i.e. pleasant to all types of dancers), had probably plenty of exposure at allnighters but sure deserve to be more popular:

 

 

Always loved this, hopefully still cheap as well. 

 

 

13 hours ago, Keamus said:

This is a great thread, but thus far most of the recommendations are 60s discs so in the interest of representing the modern corner here are a couple I’ve recently purchased. Probably well known in some circles, but new to me in last few months.

 

Great record, and Soul Sam spin in the ealy 8ts, he played the long intro version, the one you linked there is the short version...

I'm a gluten for anything Brunswick, and here is a track that is very well known, it's been on Kent comps, and CDs in the past, but what a record.

like every self respecting soul fan, I LOVE! anything Jean Wells did, especially her Calla sides 🙂

One artist that I think gets overlooked is Jean DuShon, she had such a distinctive voice, very breathy, but when she gave it some, my golly she was good, how about 'Second Class Lover'? and what about  'What Now My Love' that track nearly runs away from her, right on the edge, just out of reach...

 

We can do 70's....

 

Why is this not massive...

 

some body mentioned The Moments, this is not too shabby, cheap but not that well known

 

Arthur Prysock is wonderful. Other side ‘When love is new’ not bad either!

In similar vein to the Arthur Prysock track - I always thing Donnie Gerrard - He's always somewhere around is great 70's for a fiver.

And also Time by the Mighty Clouds of Joy merits a spin.

 

11 hours ago, BraveDamage said:

some body mentioned The Moments, this is not too shabby, cheap but not that well known

 

New to me, a cracker

One I kept under my hat for a long while, think of some of those massive Chicago rarities, the price you'd pay then check this bugger. Played loud this would do it....

They have lot of great records on Windy C. 

(Disclaimer, I no longer play out on the scene, bear that in mind)

 

Edited October 4, 20231 yr by BraveDamage

 

Wesley Paige is very overlooked,  his 'Ive got to find out for Myself' is very good, and also came out on Columbia. 

He had a few on Rojac, 'Blame it on Your Love' is a serious deepie, and the flip of that 45 (see scans) 'You Turn me Around' I always rated.

 

How about, The Whispers - I Cant See Myself Leaving You,  a very good 45 by them, and by chance I might have one in my sales box ...

 

Couple of Motown bits...

 

You should be able to pick this up for less than £30 Richard Parker wrote for the Brunswick/Dakar stable put saxphonist Gene Barge and Willie Henderson into the mix and you've got a crackin' little Chicago crossover dancer

Richard Parker, We like this one 🙂

I'd happily play 70% of the 'tunes' posted here, at home. Some very worthwhile 45's.

again...for those who 'gun jump' to post-some very nice 45's. worth buying.

However, i wouldn't want to hear more than 1 or 2 played at a venue. God forbid all of them.

more than 2 or 3...then as a one time acquaintance would say to me...i'm not gettin' off my boney Arse for that Sh*t. And I'd been getting the bus home.

It seems to me that the original post has in someways become a 'race to the bottom'.

OP - "many unknown to the majority"... really 

 

Edited October 4, 20231 yr by Kenb

I had problems opening this topic last nite on mobile

am guessing that it was due to too many youtube videos posted

looking up and see that some posts had 2 or 3 in one post

maybe best to tone things down on these topics and try and limit to 1 per post and also avoid quoting videos?

 

Still work to be done, great when newer members get stuck in 👍

 

Edited October 6, 20231 yr by Imperial C

I have been listening to this over the weekend, Ralphie D - We Let Go Of A Beautiful Thing / 20th Century.

Can’t find any other releases by 'Ralphie D' does anybody know who this guy was?   I haven’t researched the name David Appell, who appears in the writing credits, maybe Ralphie D was a moniker for David?

I also can't make my mind up, whether he is a black or White singer, but either way this is a very good 45, be good to find out more about who he was and whether he recorded anything else.

...also has another release on 20th century as Little Ralphie D, but not a great deal more info there...same production...

 

The Little Ralphie D & Ralphie D tracks almost certainly cut in Philly (though that doesn't mean Ralp D was from the city).

His producer did a lot of stuff for 20th Century at that time (mid 60's) -- both soul & pop.

Maybe a Philly expert could add more facts on him -- His producer was Dave Appell who had worked extensively for Cameo Parkway up to 65/66. Dave worked in conjunction with Joe Tarsia at the time of the 20th Cent released stuff (the guy who went on to design / build Sigma Sound St),

After 67, Dave Appell seemed to do more pop stuff and worked a lot with the Tokens (who were New York based).

Ralphie D= may well have been Italian/Amercan from Florida...and potentially a radio D.J. from that area

Edited October 9, 20231 yr by Kenb