Guest mark shepherd Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 whats this 45 likely to go for ? thanks, shep Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest wrighty Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 i'd hazard a guess at anywhere between £800 and £1200 shep Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jumpinjoan Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 It's good - but Little Willie Faulk is better Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest mark shepherd Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 and is little willie cheaper ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Spaghetti Weston Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 (edited) and is little willie cheaper ? Edited November 18, 2008 by spaghetti weston Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest gordon russell Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 and is little willie cheaper ? ooooh dear......no sir it ain't Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest gordon russell Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 ooooh dear......no sir it ain't same label if that's any help Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest mark shepherd Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 i'd hazard a guess at anywhere between £800 and £1200 shep is this an auction estimate or a sale on here estimate ? and can anyone post the willie 45 thanks, shep Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ady Potts Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 Little Willie Faulk is a full 30 seconds longer as well. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jordirip Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 is this an auction estimate or a sale on here estimate ? and can anyone post the willie 45 thanks, shep I want to hear Willie Faulk's version too. Anyone got a soundclip? Jordi Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Prophonics 2029 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Its a hard one, really you gotta have both just incase the B-sides a blinder Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Gasher Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 ree flores for me sold mine to Mr Money gasher Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jumpinjoan Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Probably a case of which one you heard first. Which in my case was Little Willie Faulk, 1988 ish, on a tape from Pete Myles. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sebastian Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Very poor vocal delivery on the Little Willie Faulk version compared to Ree Flores to my ears. Ree Flores just rips from beginning to end! One of my all-time favourite uptempo soul tunes. Has anyone ever tracked down Ree Flores? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest wrighty Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 (edited) is this an auction estimate or a sale on here estimate ? and can anyone post the willie 45 thanks, shep i was talking about the final auction price on manship shep...if it was ebay i'd put the price a bit lower but it seems the exchange rate is coming into play these days and for the record i'm firmly in the flores corner Edited November 19, 2008 by wrighty Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest gordon russell Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 i was talking about the final auction price on manship shep...if it was ebay i'd put the price a bit lower but it seems the exchange rate is coming into play these days and for the record i'm firmly in the flores corner probably be double lol Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Rees Flores for me. Little Willie Faulk let down by the vocals IMHO. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jumpinjoan Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Great! So if LWF comes up for sale there should only be me going for it! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ritchieandrew Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Both versions are storming up tempo West coast Northern. The Little Willie faulk version credits the writer as George flores. Both demos & Issues exist of the R.F. version, but there only appears to be Issues of the L.W.F which is rarer. Record wise there's not a lot between them, both superb records in their own right. Best regards Ritchie. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Marc Forrest Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 i'd hazard a guess at anywhere between £800 and £1200 shep I am afraid it will go for more...think someone on here had one for sale for about 1500 UKP ? Anyway, like both versions but also think the Ree Flores is slightly better.. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ady Potts Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 (edited) There's a delta number in the Ree Flores deadwax for June 1969. There's not a delta number on the Little Willie Faulk. You know I can't help thinking the reason for the two versions was the records were being aimed at two seperate markets. Flores is a popular Chicano name, so probably was being aimed at the growing Mexican population in California. The 'A' side of the L.W.F. is a real nice sweet soul side. Can't be 100% sure, but he sounds black to me. Perhaps this was being aimed at the black listeners? I'm only guessing. But both versions of "Look into my heart" are great. There's two different label designs on L.W.F. One with the address & one without. Can anyone post a scan of the demo of Ree Flores? please. Edited November 20, 2008 by pottsy Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pauldonnelly Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 i know we;ve all done it but I sold my Ree Flores copy to Kev Draper for £35...he even knocked me down from the £40 asking price suggesting I could have dib in his little bag all night foc...not sure what that was all about.. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ady Potts Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 i know we;ve all done it but I sold my Ree Flores copy to Kev Draper for £35...he even knocked me down from the £40 asking price suggesting I could have dib in his little bag all night foc...not sure what that was all about.. Thing is Paul, as you'll probably remember, the Ree Flores isn't a rare record. Where on earth has all this £800, £1000, etc. come from? That's just crazy Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Marc Forrest Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Thing is Paul, as you'll probably remember, the Ree Flores isn't a rare record. Where on earth has all this £800, £1000, etc. come from? That's just crazy Not a rare record only if one classifies also Jackey Beavers/Revilot as "not a rare" record though... in few collections ? Yes. Indemand ? Yes. For sale ? Very, very, very seldomly... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pauldonnelly Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Not a rare record only if one classifies also Jackey Beavers/Revilot as "not a rare" record though... in few collections ? Yes. Indemand ? Yes. For sale ? Very, very, very seldomly... so what do you rate Jackey Beavers/Revilot at? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Marc Forrest Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 (edited) so what do you rate Jackey Beavers/Revilot at? Well, for as long as I can remember I haven`t seen a Ree Flores at Anglo`s or JM`s for sale. At least I can not remember having seen them and JM tells in his description its the first he had for sale in a decade. I have seen maybe three in private sales and there`s only one shown via popsike (2005..)... On the other hand I must have seen about up to 15 (its eleven alone on pospike) copies of JBs/Revilot in the last 4-5 years. So to answer your question I will pretty much stick with the price quotations from popsike on that one and would say about 1250+ UKP depending on condition etc. Maybe a bit less these days because of credit crunch etc. So it roughly sits where I would put Ree Flores value wise these days. The same price for a record you see way less often for sale compared to Jackey Beavers should be somehow about right. Especially as one -Jackey Beavers- is a (fantastic) oldie whereas the other one -Ree Flores- is an oldie but one with a with a current revival ? Marc Edited November 19, 2008 by Marc Forrest Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pauldonnelly Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Well, for as long as I can remember I haven`t seen a Ree Flores at Anglo`s or JM`s for sale. At least I can not remember having seen them and JM tells in his description its the first he had for sale in a decade. I have seen maybe three in private sales and there`s only one shown via popsike (2005..)... On the other hand I must have seen about up to 15 (its eleven alone on pospike) copies of JBs/Revilot in the last 4-5 years. So to answer your question I will pretty much stick with the price quotations from popsike on that one and would say about 1250+ UKP depending on condition etc. Maybe a bit less these days because of credit crunch etc. So it roughly sits where I would put Ree Flores value wise these days. The same price for a record you see much much much more seldomly up for sale compared to Jackey Beavers is should be somehow about right. Especially as one -Jackey Beavers- is a (fantastic) oldie whereas the other one -Ree Flores- is an oldie but one with a with a current revival ? Marc thanks, anyone want a copy for £1500 UK£ Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Marc Forrest Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 thanks, anyone want a copy for £1500 UK£ which one now Jackey Beavers or Ree Flores ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pauldonnelly Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 which one now Jackey Beavers or Ree Flores ? Jackey Beavers Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Souljazera Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 About 7 to 8 years ago Ree Flores used to by around the £40-£50 range, should place it about £120 now. Its like a lot of them good records, all in collections and not available. would agree with you andy...i know we found quite a few about 10 years ago....took quite a while to shift them all... what crazy price did it eventually go for? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest gordon russell Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 this is not that rare.........loads about years ago...just cause they ain't coming up for sale...DON'T MAKE EM RARE tezza Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete Morgan Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 I first heard Ree Flores on a Manship sales tape late 70,s ( also had inspirations no one can take your place, virginia blakeley - let no.... and an instrumental of Jackie wilson - who who song, also the Blues busters - I believe.... I fell in love with all the tunes on the tape and eventually got Ree Flores off Mr Manship a few years later . I still have it and have been playing it out for years. I have heard the Willie Faulk version before at a soul night back in the UK . But i have just listened to chalky's clip of it and it blew me away. Far more polished than Ree Flores, any information on the two guys? Ps any chance some kind soul can send me a mp3 of it ? also any info on the who who song instrumental , has been bugging me for years ? TIA Pete Morgan Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Marc Forrest Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 About 7 to 8 years ago Ree Flores used to by around the £40-£50 range, should place it about £120 now. Its like a lot of them good records, all in collections and not available. 7 years ago Irish Greg already advertised his copy at 1200 UKP...so the price tag of 50 UKP must be a bit older ? Anyway, even records like Otis Lee were 50 UKP once...and loads of other 45s that have seen an incrdeible price hike inbetween the last ten years. Marc Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Corbett80 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Know someone who got a copy about a year and a half ago at £600? Would of thought its still under a grand for a nice copy? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Manfromsoul45s Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 I remember when the penny black stamp was only a penny.. when 2+2 on velgo was a youth club record.. and a model T ford was under $100..what has the world come to.. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Quinvy Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 I remember when the penny black stamp was only a penny.. when 2+2 on velgo was a youth club record.. and a model T ford was under $100..what has the world come to.. Luxury! we used to dream of living in a corridor...... ......when I were a lad.... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jumpinjoan Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 this is not that rare.........loads about years ago...just cause they ain't coming up for sale...DON'T MAKE EM RARE tezza Hmmm... but it does make the ones that come up for sale rare. Anyway, I must say in all the years I have been on the scene, I have never seen loads of them about. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Manfromsoul45s Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Luxury! we used to dream of living in a corridor...... ......when I were a lad.... Eehh by gum. For the price of a Lester Tipton i could get 2 tickets to the talkies, a stout, barncake and two tram tickets and still have change for some spitting baccy... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ady Potts Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Luxury! we used to dream of living in a corridor...... ......when I were a lad.... When you worra lad, young Phil ? What about when I worra lad ? I worra a Ferret feeder, on a Florin a week Mind you, I built up a good record collection on it Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Pinch Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 in the 90s i saw about 2 dozen copies of ree flores for sale snapping one up myself. but i never saw a copy of little willie faulk. i only knew that by the likes of ted massey playing it. JM says its ten years since he had a copy of RF. but in 2002 john gave me £400 for it which was a good price and i only sold it because i thought it will never go any higher in a million years . obviously he sold it quickly for a profit dave Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 in the 90s i saw about 2 dozen copies of ree flores for sale snapping one up myself. but i never saw a copy of little willie faulk. i only knew that by the likes of ted massey playing it. JM says its ten years since he had a copy of RF. but in 2002 john gave me £400 for it which was a good price and i only sold it because i thought it will never go any higher in a million years . obviously he sold it quickly for a profit dave Big Dave, 2002? Think it must have been before that, I always check my database before making comments on rarity (more to the point, unavailabilty) my file on Ree Flores says we haven't sold a copy in the last 9 years (the length of time we have been keeping the data on every sale). So either I moved it on without listing it (that's possible) or I filed it straight into my collection, also possible. But I don't think we've listed it for auction or set-sale for a decade or maybe even more... It has always been a very sought-after 45, even though I've occasionally found it on the West Coast during the 70s & 80s and one in Bob Pegg's junk 45s in the 90s for a $1.00, but that was the last copy I personally unearthed. John Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Pinch Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Big Dave, 2002? Think it must have been before that, I always check my database before making comments on rarity (more to the point, unavailabilty) my file on Ree Flores says we haven't sold a copy in the last 9 years (the length of time we have been keeping the data on every sale). So either I moved it on without listing it (that's possible) or I filed it straight into my collection, also possible. But I don't think we've listed it for auction or set-sale for a decade or maybe even more... It has always been a very sought-after 45, even though I've occasionally found it on the West Coast during the 70s & 80s and one in Bob Pegg's junk 45s in the 90s for a $1.00, but that was the last copy I personally unearthed. John Its true i dont recall it being listed an i did look vigorously. probably had a buyer john. what i do know is that i wish id never sold it but when you chop and change.............. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Trev Thomas Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 in the 90s i saw about 2 dozen copies of ree flores for sale snapping one up myself. but i never saw a copy of little willie faulk. i only knew that by the likes of ted massey playing it. JM says its ten years since he had a copy of RF. but in 2002 john gave me £400 for it which was a good price and i only sold it because i thought it will never go any higher in a million years . obviously he sold it quickly for a profit dave hi dave looks like you made a tidy profit .....i'm assuming thats the one i flogged you for 200 quid Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest gordon russell Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 l know i'll get slated for this ,but back in the 70's every time l looked in a record box there was a copy of this tune for sale......maybe l was just looking in the same box............anyway what the f**k do l know about this stuff tezza Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Marc Forrest Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 ...would say about 1250+ UKP depending on condition... ...So it roughly sits where I would put Ree Flores value wise these days... Marc Oh, just how wrong i was...still one and a half hrs to go and already at 1386 UKP Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest chorleybloke Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 I first heard Ree Flores on a Manship sales tape late 70,s ( also had inspirations no one can take your place, virginia blakeley - let no.... and an instrumental of Jackie wilson - who who song, also the Blues busters - I believe.... I fell in love with all the tunes on the tape and eventually got Ree Flores off Mr Manship a few years later . I still have it and have been playing it out for years. TIA Pete Morgan Yes mate and you're to blame for it being top of my wants list, sounded fearsome when you played it at the Sydney National . Just seen it went for 1577 quid which pushed me down into 3rd place . Hope you're well Pete Cheers.........Pete Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 last nights prices anyone? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
vaultofsouler Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 (edited) last nights prices anyone? Here you go Chalky.... Tempests - Would You Believe (Smash LP) - £231 Cross Bronx Expressway - Cross Bronx Expressway (Zells) - £63 The Ethics - I Want My Baby Back (Vent DJ) - £180 Beverley Ann - He's Coming Home (RCA DJ + picture postcode) £157 Benny Scott & The Soul Masters - No Other Woman But You (Mellow Town) - £301 Cavaliers - Hold To My Baby (RCA Acetate) - £158 Epsilons - Mind In A Bind (Hem) - £459 Johnny Rodgers & The Nu Tones - Make A Change (Amon) - £1861 Ree Flores - Look Into My Heart b/w Get Out Of My Life Woman (M&H) - £1577 Ike & Tina Turner - The Soul Of Ike & Tina Turner 4 Track EP (Sue PS) £146 Jimmy Helms - Romeo And Juliet (Pye UK) - £175 Vernon Garrett - If I Could Turn Back The Hands Of Time (Stateside UK DJ) - £76 Bernard Smith - Never Gonna Let You Go (Spectrum) - £359 The Age Of Bronze - I'm Gonna Love You (Guava) - £315 Lee David - Temptation Is Calling My Name (Columbia) - £173 Satintones - Angel (Motown) - £517 Edited December 4, 2008 by vaultofsouler Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest woolie mark Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Know someone who got a copy about a year and a half ago at £600? Would of thought its still under a grand for a nice copy? ...and the person our friend bought it off got it the same day from browny for £350 joel i agree that these £1k+ prices are mad Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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