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Guest Dave Turner

I have just seen Ian Levine wearing a "Keb Darge" must go T-Shirt!

:)

He's had to fork out for a new one. His "Bollox to Soul Source" t-shirt must be getting a bit whiffy by now.

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Don't go there, it's just starting to calm down and you'll start everbody off again.

Troublemaker :)

" Soulboy 2 : The Search For Steinway " .........

Loosely based on the cult classic " the Goonies " , the film charts the search by a group of youngsters , for the grand piano that once was housed in a fabled religious shrine , thought to have been lost in the great fire of 1981 .......

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I haven't seen it so that quote cannot be attributed to me.

Why don't you get yourself one that says "I don't like it because they didn't ask me?"

Pete, unlike yourself and some others, I DO have morals and taste. When i first read this naff, insulting script in 2003/4, i wrote to the North East film board, who were funding part of it ,to complain that it was an insult to a socio/historical period that had an influence on many people and also that it was just a very bad script and requested that they withdraw funding!

So, as your limited intelligence can hopefully deduce, i was NEVER going to be asked or involved in this trivial rubbish!

Next assumption please ?:)

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:)

And look like you mean it!

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I have just seen Ian Levine wearing a "Keb Darge" must go T-Shirt!

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" Soulboy 2 : The Search For Steinway " .........

Loosely based on the cult classic " the Goonies " , the film charts the search by a group of youngsters , for the grand piano that once was housed in a fabled religious shrine , thought to have been lost in the great fire of 1981 .......

Malc

Or could be an opening for the above mentioned man with ;

Soul Boy 2 - The Mecca Strikes Back :no:

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:no:

Same here :yes:

Pete...if having the good grace to allow someone to finish a project before forming an opinion is a crime...then we best just accept our guilt in all this & hang our heads in shame I guess :)

Well if you haven't seen it, may i suggest you shut the $%&* up then!

I have seen it and therefore have a right to an opinion. You, however have not and therefore should get of your arse, see it and then make an informed comment, rather than the purile, very limited drivel you tend to spout along with Pete. Bless you both, if you found a third member we could film 'Last Of the Summer Whine'.:yes:

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Well if you haven't seen it, may i suggest you shut the $%&* up then!

I have seen it and therefore have a right to an opinion. You, however have not and therefore should get of your arse, see it and then make an informed comment, rather than the purile, very limited drivel you tend to spout along with Pete. Bless you both, if you found a third member we could film 'Last Of the Summer Whine'.:)

Are you kidding? I doubt there is a more negative member on Soul Source than yourself, any media project comes along, you trash it.

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Well if you haven't seen it, may i suggest you shut the $%&* up then!

I have seen it and therefore have a right to an opinion. You, however have not and therefore should get of your arse, see it and then make an informed comment, rather than the purile, very limited drivel you tend to spout along with Pete. Bless you both, if you found a third member we could film 'Last Of the Summer Whine'.:thumbup:

Hopefully I will if it is eventually gets put on around here....or are you not dedicated to films enough if you don't travel to see it ? :yes:

:yes: So we can make an informed comment 'WHEN' we have seen it? ....Is that like the one you made before they even filmed a scene?....which incidently is exactley the same childish type as the one you made after...with luminary comments of higher intelligence such as... 'His trousers were a bit too long' ?

Perhaps you could show everyone a comment anywhere on the site where Pete or I have judged it? All we & many others have done is argue that they had a right to try it.

Sadly, in your strange world that right appears to belong only to one person!....the trouble being he couldn't get the backing or he cared too much for his art to do it...whichever version you believe??

If it is the former i have every sympathy for him...I think...so would everyone else! It seems to be the way of this damn bloody world that most of the time things that are good & worthy of a hand don't get it...whilst some old dross does!...I mean, good god, you only have to look at prime time tv!!!

I just think though that if he ditched the bitterness & bile I am sure a lot more people would want to help him! :no:

:yes: Your 'If you found a third member' is a strange one....not voted for the obvious reasons :) ....But... you have had a quick glance at the voting figures so far haven't you?

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" Soulboy 2 : The Search For Steinway " .........

Loosely based on the cult classic " the Goonies " , the film charts the search by a group of youngsters , for the grand piano that once was housed in a fabled religious shrine , thought to have been lost in the great fire of 1981 .......

Malc

:):yes: :yes:

You crease me, you really do

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I think that's spot on. It's not aimed at us but we couldn't help but go and see it.

Does anyone know who Ipso Facto had in mind as their target audience? 'The Youth of Today' are feckless, gormless, tasteless , badly dressed air heads, obsessed with celebrities and shallow drivel passing for music - does anyone seriously think this film would appeal to them? What about it, exactly, would appeal? The skinny jeaned fops would wilt at the sight of the 40" bottomed Spencers and the dingy clubs. It could as well have been set in the Middle Ages or on Mars, for all they could relate to it.

And it's pissed off the Old School. So who was it aimed at? Or was that another thing they didn't think through? :)

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Does anyone know who Ipso Facto had in mind as their target audience? 'The Youth of Today' are feckless, gormless, tasteless , badly dressed air heads, obsessed with celebrities and shallow drivel passing for music - does anyone seriously think this film would appeal to them? What about it, exactly, would appeal? The skinny jeaned fops would wilt at the sight of the 40" bottomed Spencers and the dingy clubs. It could as well have been set in the Middle Ages or on Mars, for all they could relate to it.

And it's pissed off the Old School. So who was it aimed at? Or was that another thing they didn't think through? :ohmy:

Thing is though Alan...Is SS really a true measuring instrument of the Northern Soul scene today? I personally think there are many more people who just dipped their toe a little bit back in the day & are happy enough with that...they are happy dancing to the old floorshakers on a Friday/Saturday night just having a bit of fun & reminiscing of the past with friends. That is who they were probably were aiming at....the majority... to make sure costs were covered...& perhaps an hopeful eye that some of the youth of today might pick up on it. Sounds up to now like it has hit that spot too I think.

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Does anyone know who Ipso Facto had in mind as their target audience? 'The Youth of Today' are feckless, gormless, tasteless , badly dressed air heads, obsessed with celebrities and shallow drivel passing for music - does anyone seriously think this film would appeal to them? What about it, exactly, would appeal? The skinny jeaned fops would wilt at the sight of the 40" bottomed Spencers and the dingy clubs. It could as well have been set in the Middle Ages or on Mars, for all they could relate to it.

And it's pissed off the Old School. So who was it aimed at? Or was that another thing they didn't think through? :ohmy:

It's my guess that they probably got the film that THEY wanted rather than the film that many S.S.'ers would have wanted. I'm not in the business of even wanting to understand what today's audiences require as I'm way past the target age for most films anyway,so it's difficult to comment on whether they got their targetting right or not.

However, the stats are out on the first 3 days that the film was shown in the UK via 6 screens and they'll probably be encouraged by the average cinema take in the period which puts it @ No.34 in the UK with an average £1504 take per site which isn't bad considering the meagre takings of lots of other films. Conceivably it could roll out to more cinemas over the next few weeks and build on that. However, the only real publicity I've seen for the damn film has been on here so maybe their PR needs to ramp up a notch LOL....

https://www.ukfilmcouncil.org.uk/article/16977/UK-Box-Office-3---5-September-2010?action=fullscreen

Ian D :lol:

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Guest TONY ROUNCE

And... Keb's a brilliant example of what fuddy-duddy 50 year old's + should aspire to be. Vibrant, fit and with purpose :lol:

Keb and TheSoulgirl, sitting in a tree,

K-I-S-S-I-N-G...:ohmy:

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Showing at the Corner house in Manchester this week but after that???

...showing up in the 'three for a tenner' DVD section in your nearest HMV Shop, most probably...:ohmy:

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Well if you haven't seen it, may i suggest you shut the $%&* up then!

I have seen it and therefore have a right to an opinion. You, however have not and therefore should get of your arse, see it and then make an informed comment, rather than the purile, very limited drivel you tend to spout along with Pete. Bless you both, if you found a third member we could film 'Last Of the Summer Whine'.:lol:

but you had an opinion long before you saw the film so with respect I don't think you are in a position to tell anyone to shut the $%&* up.

Looking at the votes it would appear you are in a minority? with the majority giving it 5 or more.

Which one is Compo btw :ohmy:

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Here's the Soundtrack for the film taken from website..............

Ricardo. :ohmy:

does anyone really give a sh&t if a track was played at the time or not? I don't see you giving Paul stick for using tracks which were not about at the time his play was set. Artistic license is used in practically every film which has some truth to it.

Whether the film is any good or not at the end of the day it's not a bad sound track is it? I can think of worse. Ok one or two a bit cheesy and would have been better if not used but there's some great Northern in there :lol: Trackdown, fantastic :lol:

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Pete, unlike yourself and some others, I DO have morals and taste. When i first read this naff, insulting script in 2003/4, i wrote to the North East film board, who were funding part of it ,to complain that it was an insult to a socio/historical period that had an influence on many people and also that it was just a very bad script and requested that they withdraw funding!

So, as your limited intelligence can hopefully deduce, i was NEVER going to be asked or involved in this trivial rubbish!

Next assumption please ?:ohmy:

morals and taste ,

who made you the font of all things northern , your just miffed coz you didnt get asked at the begining

how very very dare they , so you have wrote a play , havent seen it myself so wont comment but to demand that something should not be funded because you deem it an insult beggars belief , then come on here and pontificate when you havent seen the end result , my god as rigsby would say,,you make ian levine likeable

oops youve seen, it still think your a pumped up egotist who thinks he is an artist

its in the eye of the beholder

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I'm going to see this at the Cornerhouse on Thursday...but who's gonna be dancing outside Sainsburys on Oxford Road.....ah just wait and see....:lol:

Maybe working, not sure yet

A quality review from you can be on behalf of Soul Source team, rolleyes.gif , so take note paper have a pee before the start :yes: ...

Maybe an exit poll also, that would really be of value to this thread as i guess there will be a mixed crowd...

Promotional dance outside the Cornerhouse :ohmy: .. We shall see....

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Hopefully I will if it is eventually gets put on around here....or are you not dedicated to films enough if you don't travel to see it ? :lol:

:lol: So we can make an informed comment 'WHEN' we have seen it? ....Is that like the one you made before they even filmed a scene?....which incidently is exactley the same childish type as the one you made after...with luminary comments of higher intelligence such as... 'His trousers were a bit too long' ?

His trousers were soooo long he was standing on them. :lol: But, if thats how you used to wear them, i bow to your experience. Im sure you danced just like the lead guy and therefore can comment from that perspective.

Jesus are you are 'thick' or blind' ! Which part of "I read the script before it was filmed" do you not understand? It was crap and as it happens so is the film. I know with your limited intelligence you may not get it. BUT a shit script does not make a good film and actors and directors MAKE A DECISION on its worth, based on reading the script!

Sometimes Its like educating a child with you.

Perhaps you could show everyone a comment anywhere on the site where Pete or I have judged it? All we & many others have done is argue that they had a right to try it.

Yes they had a right, as does anyone. But they totally f---ked it up. You, like a lot of others, seem to have no discernable taste when it comes to the 'scene' and its exploitation. Good, bad or ugly, you will promote or buy it!

Sadly, in your strange world that right appears to belong only to one person!....the trouble being he couldn't get the backing or he cared too much for his art to do it...whichever version you believe??

Who the f---k are you? Levines mate or something. You seem to just make up rubbish grabbed from your own arse? I have a right to critique whatever i want . always little BOGUE seems to pop up on some agenda? What is your agenda BOGUE? Why are you so dull in your repetition? Have you never achieved much or created anything of worth in your life?

If it is the former i have every sympathy for him...I think...so would everyone else! It seems to be the way of this damn bloody world that most of the time things that are good & worthy of a hand don't get it...whilst some old dross does!...I mean, good god, you only have to look at prime time tv!!!

I just think though that if he ditched the bitterness & bile I am sure a lot more people would want to help him! :lol:

Im lost? help who? Your talking in vagueries. Help with what? I could help you out with your envy issues if you want?

:lol: Your 'If you found a third member' is a strange one....not voted for the obvious reasons :D ....But... you have had a quick glance at the voting figures so far haven't you?

I dont look at voting figures as i have a mind, soul and thought capacity that allows me to make up my own mind. I saw the film and did just that. You could develop your own individulal capacity for 'free' though, its never too late!:thumbsup:

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Oh what's the frigging point :thumbsup:

You are fcuking wonderful....you are the only one who should be allowed to comment on any media project concerning Northern Soul...You are the best Actor & Playwrite ever to grace this planet....I bow to your superior being.....there!.. will that get you to go back to your nice comfy arsehole?

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:D

:thumbsup: I do like some of those funky edged tunes though :lol:

I would like to wipe out quite a few of these posts..

Start a topic on what you think is Northern.. Give us a break, i have to read this shite..

We know what Pauls view of the film is now, we also have other views, just as valid.... Thats what its about.. Did you like it or find it a pile of poo...

Who as the right to tell others what is right or wrong... We all see so many things in a different way... Don't have to agree, just tell us your views and leave others to do the same....

Wise up or just stop posting on this topic...

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I would like to wipe out quite a few of these posts..

Start a topic on what you think is Northern.. Give us a break, i have to read this shite..

We know what Pauls view of the film is now, we also have other views, just as valid.... Thats what its about.. Did you like it or find it a pile of poo...

Who as the right to tell others what is right or wrong... We all see so many things in a different way... Don't have to agree, just tell us your views and leave others to do the same....

Wise up or just stop posting on this topic...

i haven't seen the film yet, if it's good or bad' i'll still cherish the memories the best music ever and the lovely northern girls in that order. Cheers Billy

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I would like to wipe out quite a few of these posts..

Start a topic on what you think is Northern.. Give us a break, i have to read this shite..

We know what Pauls view of the film is now, we also have other views, just as valid.... Thats what its about.. Did you like it or find it a pile of poo...

Who as the right to tell others what is right or wrong... We all see so many things in a different way... Don't have to agree, just tell us your views and leave others to do the same....

Wise up or just stop posting on this topic...

I really feel that should have been aimed in another direction Steve :D ...But will try & bear it in mind :thumbsup:

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IVE ONLY RATED IT 3 OUT OF10 BECAUSE THE ENDING ,A DANCE OFF WTF IS THAT ALL ABOUT, I WOULDNT CARE IF THE PAIR OF THEM CUD DANCE. LETS BE HONEST WIGAN CASINO WAS ALL ABOUT THE MUSIC AND THE DANCING ,SO FOR ME THE DANCING LET THE FILM DOWN BADLY,WHOEVER HAD THE JOB OF TEACHING THE ACTORS HOW TO DANCE WANTS TO RETURN THERE FEE ASAP ENOF SAID.

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IVE ONLY RATED IT 3 OUT OF10 BECAUSE THE ENDING ,A DANCE OFF WTF IS THAT ALL ABOUT, I WOULDNT CARE IF THE PAIR OF THEM CUD DANCE. LETS BE HONEST WIGAN CASINO WAS ALL ABOUT THE MUSIC AND THE DANCING ,SO FOR ME THE DANCING LET THE FILM DOWN BADLY,WHOEVER HAD THE JOB OF TEACHING THE ACTORS HOW TO DANCE WANTS TO RETURN THERE FEE ASAP ENOF SAID.

Go tell keb darge that. Pretty sure his record speaks for itself. Some people will pick the moves up and be brilliant after months of tuition, some will be average and some will be, well, shite to be honest. No point blaming the teacher. Sometimes as much as someone tries you just can't jazz up a turd!

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Go tell keb darge that. Pretty sure his record speaks for itself. Some people will pick the moves up and be brilliant after months of tuition, some will be average and some will be, well, shite to be honest. No point blaming the teacher. Sometimes as much as someone tries you just can't jazz up a turd!

I doubt they dare say anything to Keb? Have you noticed no one puts a name to posts like these? Keyboard warriors hiding behind a moniker :)

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Actually the soundtrack album's been playing in the office all morning and there's been a constant procession of people asking what various tracks are throughout, so the Soundtrack album definitely appeals to a wide section of people. Sounds pretty good actually - like a Greatest Hits type album which it really is in a way........

Ian D :)

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saw it , wasnt expecting much , low budget , british etc !....loved it , maybe a diiferent feeling form people who were

there from people who were matbe putting it on a pedastal , i dont know , but made me smile thoughout and i mean smile , giggle all the above , was a simple love story that just happened to be based around a certain genre and era .

thanks for a good night out with friends :) :)

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I doubt they dare say anything to Keb? Have you noticed no one puts a name to posts like these? Keyboard warriors hiding behind a moniker :)

I have'nt seen it yet, but when i do see it, if I think theres something not quite right, if he's added a bit of jazz to the northern scene, I will mention it to him. If your looking in Keb, will see you at the crossfire or the 100 club.

Keep on keeping on, Billy

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Just seen it in Bradford. I've given it 7/10.

I enjoyed it, as entertainment pure and simple.

It did give me a sense of nostalgia. It wasn't a perfectly accurate representation of the Casino but it did capture the atmosphere.

The dance-off was very contrived but worked to an extent as an artisitc tool to showcase the rivalry. but it only lasted a minute or so.

Overall quite enjoyable, But what do I know? I've never watched a Russian art house film in my life :hatsoff2:

Phil

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saw it , wasnt expecting much , low budget , british etc !....loved it , maybe a diiferent feeling form people who were

there from people who were matbe putting it on a pedastal , i dont know , but made me smile thoughout and i mean smile , giggle all the above , was a simple love story that just happened to be based around a certain genre and era .

thanks for a good night out with friends :hatsoff2::D

You totally summed up the night we had here in Belfast as well two weeks ago Stevie. Didn't go with any high expectations but knew music would be good at least. A few beers before, packed cinema, good atmosphere etc. probably a project harder judged than to film the Bible or the Coran this. :yes: I felt quite pleased with the film and def entertained afterwards and so did the rest of our gang. .

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And, to be honest Phil, I've always thought that was one of your major failings mate. :thumbsup:

Ian D :D

I know, I know ...

But this film shows, if anything , as Feodor Dostoevsky said "There is no subject so old that something new cannot be said about it."

Phil

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I think its time for a cynical categorization of SoulBoy posters?

I think it's fair to say that we initially had a flurry of posts from some that had a vested interest in the film? This was then followed by an exited bout of posts from those who where going to be either included or asked for advise?

What followed was a painful wait until us lesser mortals had the chance to see the movie and we still have many finding it hard to locate a cinema showing the film so we now do still have two camps, those who have seen the movie and those that have not.

Those who have not seen the movie fall into categories of those who don't comment choosing to wait and those who air their concerns.

For those that have seen the movie I think we have three camps, those who are blown away and loved the film giving marks out of ten such as high sevens, the score you would normal see for epics such as The Godfather and The Deer Hunter.

We then have those who are bitterly disappointed at a wasted opportunity and leave the cinema deflated and a little underwhelmed.

The final third are the staunch denialists who I think confuse the topic with the content and mindlessly refuse to see any perceived attack on their youth.

If I'm going to be even more cynical I think that the final third fall into two categories, those who where actually there and those who sort of pretend they where there. Six or seven Wigan Casino visits during the long hot summer of your misspent youth would be a very potent image, potent enough for rose colored glasses?

The final third would be the real deal, the Wigan Casino regulars who actually shaped the genre along with the DJ's?

The problem is that no one wears a badge, well some do but they are most likely as the result of e-bay?

Every one is entitled to their opinion and it is only a film, I think it could have been so much more than just a film, it could have been a reference point for futre generations giving a full on look at our culture but sadly it is not.

I can see why so many are emotional about this film, and emotional for much different reasons with some very different emotions indeed.

I think those who missed out on being involved with this film have had a narrow escape.

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I think its time for a cynical categorization of SoulBoy posters?

I think it's fair to say that we initially had a flurry of posts from some that had a vested interest in the film? This was then followed by an exited bout of posts from those who where going to be either included or asked for advise?

What followed was a painful wait until us lesser mortals had the chance to see the movie and we still have many finding it hard to locate a cinema showing the film so we now do still have two camps, those who have seen the movie and those that have not.

Those who have not seen the movie fall into categories of those who don't comment choosing to wait and those who air their concerns.

For those that have seen the movie I think we have three camps, those who are blown away and loved the film giving marks out of ten such as high sevens, the score you would normal see for epics such as The Godfather and The Deer Hunter.

We then have those who are bitterly disappointed at a wasted opportunity and leave the cinema deflated and a little underwhelmed.

The final third are the staunch denialists who I think confuse the topic with the content and mindlessly refuse to see any perceived attack on their youth.

If I'm going to be even more cynical I think that the final third fall into two categories, those who where actually there and those who sort of pretend they where there. Six or seven Wigan Casino visits during the long hot summer of your misspent youth would be a very potent image, potent enough for rose colored glasses?

The final third would be the real deal, the Wigan Casino regulars who actually shaped the genre along with the DJ's?

The problem is that no one wears a badge, well some do but they are most likely as the result of e-bay?

Every one is entitled to their opinion and it is only a film, I think it could have been so much more than just a film, it could have been a reference point for futre generations giving a full on look at our culture but sadly it is not.

I can see why so many are emotional about this film, and emotional for much different reasons with some very different emotions indeed.

I think those who missed out on being involved with this film have had a narrow escape.

Some food for thought there...

The 2 camps for me are folk with a direct/ indirect connection with this film or other projects and those with none.. The latter can seem to go watch it with no preconceptions and take it at face value.... Not the same for others and that me included...

A real mixed bag of reviews with regards to my mates at the moment...

A good topic and the mix of reviews are what keeps a thread fresh... All welcome and of interest.. Like with much in life, what floats your boat can be a bag of shite to others...

Plenty reviews coming in now as the film gets a few more viewings around the country.... Keep them coming..

Cheers

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Went to see it this week at the Empire cinema in Leicester Square

It was on Screen 9 - hidden away at the back of the cinema up two narrow flights of stairs in a room with about 35 seats, and 20 people in!

Went with a non-soulie mate - so it was really interesting to see their reaction

We both really enjoyed it - it's basically a love story with a background of Northern Soul, Wigan etc

Chatted over a couple of beers afterwards about the film - how authentic the 70s look and detailling was throughout - clothes, cars, houses etc. - the use of talc, adidas holdalls, the music

I think I probably enjoyed it less than my mate because, as someone who has been into Northern since I was a teenager, I thought there were some cringe-worthy moments in there (the dance-off being one)

The main thing that didn't really come through was the size/scale (place and number of punters) and the atmosphere that was the Casino (so I'm told - I was too young to go myself)

Overall, if you can see it as a film and not a documentary about Wigan Casino, Northern, your lives/youth etc it's a decent film - and it was entertaining (the main point probably)

OK it was low budget - but isn't that also true of most of the music we know and love?

Cheers

Richard

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The Soul Couple really enjoyed the film at Pictureville in Bradford. It was a nostalgic look at the 70's A bit of a love story with a Northern Soul backdrop! some good footage although the dance off' scenes were nothing to do with the scene in the 70's.

If you get a chance go out and see it - it's a film!! :lol:

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This will put the cat amongst the pigeons with a few.... :thumbsup: Saw it at Leicester Square the other night and enjoyed it. As soul couple has said above a straight forward love story set against a northern soul back cloth. It wasn't really an accurate reprersentation of the Casino in some ways, but it was an enjoyable enough film. Would watch it again when it gets onto TV.

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Went to see it last night at Warwick Arts Centre - nice place - enjoyed it! As Steve said it is a love story with a Northern Soul backdrop - pardon the pun:lol: - funny in parts aswell, so just an entertaining story - not a documentary, well worth a look. (Tickets only £6.50 at Warwick aswell)

Al & Sharon

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