What do we know about this label, if anything, I notice a lot of records are produced by Wardell Quazergue and it's part of the same set up as Hot Line etc, just wondered if there were any recommendations apart from Don & Ron and if there's ever been a compilation?

My recommendation for the label is the rarer second sonics 45 "just like delilah". Their first record is also a nice impressions sounding thing.

I think pomonkey on here knows a lot about the label and should be able to recommend some more R&B type tunes

I've got a few RnB things on the label but can't think what at the mo.......

Joe Haywood now springs to mind

Edited March 21, 201114 yr by Rbman

There's an excellent version of Tom Jones' "Never Give Away Love" by Ron Phillips on White Cliffs. The version by Tom Jones was the original B-side to "Stop Breaking My Heart".

Added by: mshoals on 21 Mar 2011  view all by mshoals

 

Artist: The Sonics

Title: Just Like Delilah

Label: White Cliffs

Label Extra: 208A

Type:audio

Value: n/a

 

Clip Info: The Sonics - Just Like Delilah

Sunny Ridell / Come out in my world white cliffs 6901,

Played it out a fair bit a few years back, great choon ( imho )

I seem to remember there's great dancer on White Hills by Joe Wilson ( I think) - I can't recall the title - Anyone?

Cheers

Manus

Tommy Ridgley "Did You Tell Him" is an all time fave. Superb Soul record.

Sean

Same backing track as Senator Jones "Do You Love Me":

Really like Joe Haywoods - Hand in Hand too - great midtempo Soul

Cheers

Manus

I'VE GOT THIS ONE ON A SHELF SOMEWHERE,

WHITE CLIFFS # 246 TOMMY DAWN & the SUNSETS # WANTED $10,000 / POOR LITTLE UGLY

Tommy Ridgley "Did You Tell Him" is an all time fave. Superb Soul record.

Sean

I picked up a copy of this after you reccomended it previosuly some time ago just after I got copies of his river city 45 and yes it is fantastic.

I knew you would be on here with this tip when I saw the white cliff title.

yep, there's some interesting stuff on the label, local LA stuff which is Matassa/Sehorn/Quezergue related, but also some stuff leased from other places (I think the Joe Haywood stuff is an example) essentially went under with Dover distribution.

Like this plodder on White Cliffs 230

sonics - come home baby - white cliffs

Also Joe Wilson did a couple of nice deep soul bits on the label.

"I Want To Love You" - White Cliffs 242

"Now You want To Do Right" - White Cliffs 281

Edited March 21, 201114 yr by Dave Turner

Like this plodder on White Cliffs 230

sonics - come home baby - white cliffs

Also Joe Wilson did a couple of nice deep soul bits on the label.

"I Want To Love You" - White Cliffs 242

"Now You want To Do Right" - White Cliffs 281

ohh that sonics is very good never heard it before. My kind of record

is there a CD comp available for this label ?

ohh that sonics is very good never heard it before. My kind of record

is there a CD comp available for this label ?

Yeah, my kinda sound also mate.

I don't think there is a comp specifically for the label. However, I'll keep my eye out.

There is "Sehorn's Soul Farm" which is a double CD comp of those New Orlean's labels that Marshall Sehorn had a hand in ie White Cliffs, Sansu, Deesu, Tou-Sea etc.

https://www.amazon.co...00781840&sr=1-1

Sample tracks here --

https://www.amazon.co...agSuffix=dp_img

Some tracks on there that don't do it for me but some nice deeper ballads that do. A decent buy for £7.99 post free.

Edited March 22, 201114 yr by Dave Turner

Some crackers on this label as mentioned. Dover was a big player oon the distribution side. Not aware of any material being re-issued as Dave states. maybe the Ace guys can help out? Do seem to remember on here or on an auction John Manship stating he bought out the last remaining Dover stock??? Incidentally just picked up Joe Haywoods I Would If I Could/Warm & Tender Love. R&B dancer one side / vers. of Percy on t'other. Brief history of Cosimo Matassa HERE.. Might have an (Incomplete) discography somewhere...

The Sonics Crescent walks a bit of a stomper

Al H

Does anyone know of other (jazz) LPs on White Cliffs next to these four?

1001 - The Ronnie Kole Trio - Live At Kole's Corner

1002 - Trombones Beaucoup - Swing Low

1003 - Nickie's Jass Band - Nickie's Jass Band

1004 - ?

1005 - Armand Hug - Armand Hug Plays Jazz

Edited March 22, 201114 yr by mshoals

Sunny Ridell / Come out in my world white cliffs 6901,

Played it out a fair bit a few years back, great choon ( imho )

Think this may have made a brief appearance at Top Of The World, mid 80's ? Sounds great played loud in a venue !

Top Pick Tim !

White Cliffs was distrubuted (unsuprisingly) by Cosimo Matassa's Dover record Distribution Company. I half recall a release on Dover records that used to be played out by Roly Ferguson at The Neighbourhood. I know I spent a long time looking for it but can't at the moment bring it to mind; suddenly I remember it was Alex Spearman Please Baby Please. Dover went bust in late '68

Here what I have on file please feel free to add info:

• Bill Singai and The Sky Liners – Second Line (Pt 1) / (Pt 2) ~ WHITE CLIFFS 129
• Alex Spearman - I'll whip it on you / Down the aisle ~ WHITE CLIFFS 217 (also on CHOCTAW 102)
• Joe Wilson - Headed for a fall / Goddess of love ~ WHITE CLIFFS 222
• Ronnie Kole Trio – Batman Theme / Narom's Blues ~ WHITE CLIFFS 229
• Sonics - Crescent walk / Come Home Baby ~ WHITE CLIFFS 230
• Alex Spearman- You'll never find another man like me / Stranded in the desert ~ WHITE CLIFFS 232
• Joe Haywood – I Would If I Could / ?? ~ WHITE CLIFFS 237
• Joe Wilson - I'm her only man / I want to love you ~ WHITE CLIFFS 242
• Tommy Dawn & the Sunsets - Wanted $10,000 Reward / Poor Little Ugly WHITE CLIFFS 246
• Joe Haywood – Lets Make It / Hand In Hand ~ WHITE CLIFFS 248
• Reggie Hall – Please Please Phone / Shoo Fly ~WHITE CLIFFS 255
• Tommy Ridgely – Did You Tell Him / Hey Little Chick ~WHITE CLIFFS 260
• Stark Whiteman – We Will Remember / ?? ~WHITE CLIFFS 261
• The Swingin' Apolloes - Summertime Blues / Slow Down ~ WHITE CLIFFS 262 (Also on LOOK 001)
• The One Eted Jacks - Love / ?? ~ WHITE CLIFFS 265
• Leroy Bates (This is Lee Bates of Why Don't You Write Fame)- Bad, Bad Understanding/I'm Forever Crying ~ WHITE CLIFFS 270
• Garland Hilton – Return of Billie Joe / The Loneliest Man In The World ~ WHITE CLIFFS 273
• Joe Wilson - Sam Sam the money man / Now you want to do right ~ WHITE CLIFFS 281
• Alex Spearman – You'll Never Find Another Man Like Me / Stranded In the Desert ~ WHITE CLIFFS ???
• Sunny Ridell – Come Out In My World / Dont steal my baby ~WHITE CLIFFS 6901??

Edited July 29, 20177 yr by ged parker

The Sonics Crescent walks a bit of a stomper

Al H

got one for sale,if anyone's interested?

Joe Wilson - I'm her only man / I want to love you ~ WHITE CLIFFS 242

This is the real in your face Joe Wilson number, great r&s 45

There's a garage record by Beaver and the Trappers on WC, it's great. I can look it up at home later today if you want the details. Also the Swingin' Apolloes and One Eyed Jacks are garage-ish.

Title: The Palace Guards - Gas Station Boogaloo Downtown

Label Extra: 286B
Type:audio
Value: n/a

Clip Info: The Palace Guards - Gas Station Boogaloo Downtown

view clip refosoul page

Joe Wilson - I'm her only man / I want to love you ~ WHITE CLIFFS 242

This is the real in your face Joe Wilson number, great r&s 45

This is the Joe Wilson dancer that I was trying to recall earlier in the thread - great record

Thanks to Tony Parker ( Midnight Brew) for the reminder

Cheers

Manus

White Cliffs was distrubuted (unsuprisingly) by Cosimo Matassa's Dover record Distribution Company. I half recall a release on Dover records that used to be played out by Roly Ferguson at The Neighbourhood. I know I spent a long time looking for it but can't at the moment bring it to mind; suddenly I remember it was Alex Spearman Please Baby Please. Dover went bust in late '68

Here what I have on file please feel free to add info:

• Bill Singai and The Sky Liners - Second Line (Pt 1) / (Pt 2) ~ WHITE CLIFFS 129
• Alex Spearman - I'll whip it on you / Down the aisle ~ WHITE CLIFFS 217 (also on CHOCTAW 102)
• Joe Wilson - Headed for a fall / Goddess of love ~ WHITE CLIFFS 222
• Ronnie Kole Trio - Batman Theme / Narom's Blues ~ WHITE CLIFFS 229
• Sonics - Crescent walk / Come Home Baby ~ WHITE CLIFFS 230
• Alex Spearman- You'll never find another man like me / Stranded in the desert ~ WHITE CLIFFS 232
• Joe Haywood - I Would If I Could / ?? ~ WHITE CLIFFS 237
• Joe Wilson - I'm her only man / I want to love you ~ WHITE CLIFFS 242
• Tommy Dawn & the Sunsets - Wanted $10,000 Reward / Poor Little Ugly WHITE CLIFFS 246
• Joe Haywood - Lets Make It / Hand In Hand ~ WHITE CLIFFS 248
• Reggie Hall - Please Please Phone / Shoo Fly ~WHITE CLIFFS 255
• Tommy Ridgely - Did You Tell Him / Hey Little Chick ~WHITE CLIFFS 260
• Stark Whiteman - We Will Remember / ?? ~WHITE CLIFFS 261
• The Swingin' Apolloes - Summertime Blues / Slow Down ~ WHITE CLIFFS 262 (Also on LOOK 001)
• The One Eted Jacks - Love / ?? ~ WHITE CLIFFS 265
• Leroy Bates (This is Lee Bates of Why Don't You Write Fame)- Bad, Bad Understanding/I'm Forever Crying ~ WHITE CLIFFS 270
• Garland Joe - Return of Billie Joe / ?? ~ WHITE CLIFFS 273
• Joe Wilson - Sam Sam the money man / Now you want to do right ~ WHITE CLIFFS 281
• Alex Spearman - You'll Never Find Another Man Like Me / Stranded In the Desert ~ WHITE CLIFFS ???
• Sunny Ridell - Come Out In My World / ?? ~WHITE CLIFFS 6901??

The flip of Sunny Ridell is Dont steal my baby 6901

Title: The Sonics - So Tired
A
Label Extra: 208B
Type:audio
Value: n/a

Clip Info: The Sonics - So Tired

view clip refosoul page

Two more for the discography (don't have them in front of me for label numbers):

Young Jesse, Funky Funky Football (this is Jesse Thomas, who recorded for Ace, Teem, and Tailgate, not Obediah "Young" Jessie)

The 5 Royales, I'm on the Right Road Now/Mr. Moon Man (one of the best screaming deep soul records anywhere)

Here's a discography based (for 45s) on R&B Indies, with several titles added. Any additions / corrections are welcome of course.

45s:

200 - Bill Sinigai & The Skyliners - Second Line (Part 1) / (Part 2)

202 - Tony Sullivan - Margaret / I Would If I Could

202 - Reggie Pitassy - Easter Bunny Bring My Daddy Home / I'm Gonna Color My Eggs All Blue

204 - Bob Allen & The Wanderers - It's About Time / Longing For You

205 - Steve Babin - Rambling Baby / Share Your Love With Me

206 - Al Belletto - Have A Very, Merry Christmas / Have A Happy, Happy New Year

207 - Roland Stone - Don't Believe Him Donna / Remember That

208 - The Sonics - Just Like Delilah / So Tired

209 - The Antiques - Taught Me To Care / Glistening Stars Are Shining

210 - Frank Ford - Basin Street Blues / Lonesome Road

211 - 4 Young Men - The First Time / Huggy Bear

212 - The Saxons - What Will Become Of Me / Chippie

213 - The Herrington Sisters - I'll Praise His Name / He Will Stay By Your Side

214 - Don & Ron - I'm So So Sorry / The Girl I Hope To Find

216 - Bob Allen - Lately / I Don't Blame You

217 - Alex Spearman - Down The Aisle / I'll Whip It On You

218 - Marie Dubarry - Why / Never Trust A Man

219 - Hugh Watts - Handy's Blues (Part 1) / (Part 2)

220 - Oscar Jackson - Nosey Woman / Contrary Heart

221 - Emile Guess - What Did You Say To Her / At A Glance

222 - Joe Wilson - Goddess Of Love / Headed For A Fall

223 - China Flair - He's My Man / Baby I Love You

224 - El Pauling & The 5 Royales - I'm On The Right Road Now / Mr. Moon Man

225 - Al White & The Hi-Liters - Jamaica / Them Drums (Part 2)

226 - James & Gang - Act Right / And You

228 - Billy Sheppard - The Phoenix Love Theme / Pack Of Letters, Pack Of Lies

229 - Ronnie Kole Trio - Batman Theme / Narom's Blues

230 - The Sonics - Come Home Baby / Crescent Walk

231 - The Masonic Kings - He Has Never Left Me Alone / Our Heavenly Father's Children

232 - Alex Spearman - Stranded In The Desert / You'll Never Find Another Man Like Me

233 - Ann Daniels - The Names The Same / Love Bug

234 - James & James Gang - Hey Girl / Sorrow

235 - Ronnie Kole Trio - It's Magical You / Tony's Tune

236 - Beaver & The Trappers - In Misery / Happiness Is Havin'

237 - Joe Haywood - I Would If I Could / Warm And Tender Love

238 - The Patriots - Eagle Feathers / Batch O'Nova

239 - The Rocks - Who Do You Love / Keep My Woman Home

240 - Ronnie Kole Trio - Fight Of The Queen Hornet / Campin'

242 - Joe Wilson - I'm Her Only Man / I Want To Love You

243 - The Magnetics - Sacrificing / Tomorrow

245 - Freddie Vel - Come On In Blues / You're The Reason

246 - Tommy Dawn & The Sunsets - Poor Little Ugly / Wanted $10000 Reward

248 - Joe Haywood - Let's Make It / Hand In Hand

249 - The Fabulous Falcons - Dolly / I Wanna Be With You

251 - Glory Rhodes - One Track Mind / Run For Your Life

252 - Ron Phillips - Never Give Away Love / That Man's Got No Luck

253 - Bourbon Street Cabaret Band & Stripping Soc., Inc. - Linda Baby Pt. 1/Pt. 2

255 - Reggie Hall - Shoo Fly / Please, Please Phone

257 - Johnny Minit & The Hands Of Time - Just Someone / Turnaround

258 - Chuck Cornish - A Tribute To Mohammed Ali / Let's Go Steady

259 - Canadian Legends - I'm A Believer / Just One Girl

260 - Tommy Ridgley - Hey Little Chick / Did You Tell Him

261 - Stark Whiteman - Graduation Day / Noise

262 - The Swingin' Apollo's - Summertime Blues / Slow Down

263 - Flip Black - We Got Love / Seven Sundays

264 - Larry Brasso - You're At It Again / Take Part Of Me

265 - One Eyed Jacks - Sun So High / Love

266 - Huey (Piano) Smith And The Clowns - Blues '67 (Part 1) / (Part 2)

267 - Johnny Minit & The Hands Of Time - Nobody Else / ?

268 - Young Jesse - Funky Funky Football (Part 1) / (Part 2)

269 - Palace Guards - No Comin' Back / Gas Station Boogaloo

270 - Leroy Bates - Bad Bad Understanding / I'm Forever Crying

271 - Masonic Kings - Who Is That Walking On The Water / Let Me Tell You

273 - Garland Hilton - Return Of Billy Joe / The Loneliest Man In The World

276 - Canadian Legends - Happy / One And Only

277 - Johnny Minit & The Hands Of Time - Peppermint Choo Choo / ?

281 - Joe Wilson - Sam, Sam Money Man / Now You Want To Do Right

284 - P.A.K. & Company - Chantilly Lace / Heartbreak Station

285 - The Montaltos - Our World / Life Goes On

286 - The Palace Guards - Looking Everywhere / Gas Station Boogaloo Downtown

287 - Red Armand - I'm A Roughneck Now / Say Goodbye

288 - Fay Darling - Love & Hate / All The Loneliness

6901 - Sunny Ridell - Come Out In My World / Don't Steal My Baby

7101 - Patricia Arnell - Al Belletto And Friends / Al Belletto And The Kids - When Christmas Comes / Have A Very Merry Christmas

LPs:

1001 - The Ronnie Kole Trio - Live At Kole's Corner

1002 - Trombones Beaucoup - Swing Low

1003 - Nickie's Jass Band - Nickie's Jass Band

1004 - ?

1005 - Armand Hug - Armand Hug Plays Jazz

Edited September 20, 201113 yr by mshoals

Yes big fan of White Cliffs, remember when put that Joe Wilson on a mix a few years back when it was an unknown and people went nuts for it as was muy evidenced by the ebay price on the next ones, different league than his other stuff, must admit to being a bit cheesy out sometimes and playing Chuck Cornish back to back with the Senator Jones on Shagg with the same backing, Matt did I trade you that Funky funky Football, sadly got one unheard and was rather let down that doesn't at all live up to the title (much as you and I both love Jesse Thomas I know), more importantly, there's 1 total belter of a title missing from the list above, flip of The Rocks, am sure know where have a spare of it filed away at home too......

Edited March 24, 201114 yr by pomonkey

... a title missing from the list above, flip of The Rocks...

Thanks, it's added in the list now...

I seem to remember there's great dancer on White Hills by Joe Wilson ( I think) - I can't recall the title - Anyone?

Cheers

Manus

That should be "I` m Her Only Man" backed with a very nice typical New Orleans sounding ballad in the shape of "I Want To Love You" ... in my box since a good few years as is also another that so far had no mention in this thread...White Cliffs 233 Ann Daniels "Love Bug" my absolute favourite on the label (at the moment). One you dont see too often but one that is just sooooo good

Marc

Can recommend this dancer for sure...on the New Orleans R'n'B tip, naturally!

Flipside is a decent enough ballad as well.

Title: Oscar jackson - Contrary Heart
Label Extra: 220B
Type:audio
Value: n/a

Clip Info: Oscar jackson - Contrary Heart

view clip refosoul page

That should be "I` m Her Only Man" backed with a very nice typical New Orleans sounding ballad in the shape of "I Want To Love You" ... in my box since a good few years as is also another that so far had no mention in this thread...White Cliffs 233 Ann Daniels "Love Bug" my absolute favourite on the label (at the moment). One you dont see too often but one that is just sooooo good

Marc

Yes that's the one Marc Be great if someone could post it up

Cheers

Manus

Yes that's the one Marc Be great if someone could post it up

Cheers

Manus

would like to help you out, but sadly I cant post up files..

Addition to the discography:

253 Bourbon Street Cabaret Band & Stripping Soc., Inc. - Linda Baby Pt. 1/Pt. 2

Addition to the discography:

253 Bourbon Street Cabaret Band & Stripping Soc., Inc. - Linda Baby Pt. 1/Pt. 2

Thanks, I've added it to the discography above. Do you perhaps know what the record is like?

273 - Garland Hilton - Return Of Billy Joe / The Loneliest Man In The World

Anyone know how this stacks up to his Seven B 45? I never knew he had this other 45 on White Cliffs. I've certainly never seen it in my travels.

273 - Garland Hilton - Return Of Billy Joe / The Loneliest Man In The World

Anyone know how this stacks up to his Seven B 45? I never knew he had this other 45 on White Cliffs. I've certainly never seen it in my travels.

I don't have his Seven B 45 to compare, but here's a scan of the White Cliffs 45:

273 - Garland Hilton - Return Of Billy Joe / The Loneliest Man In The World

Anyone know how this stacks up to his Seven B 45? I never knew he had this other 45 on White Cliffs. I've certainly never seen it in my travels.

I wonder if he could be the same Hilton as on this Lodestone 45, also from New Orleans. Does anyone know?

no idea, i might be able to put up a clip of the Seven B later on if anyone wants to hear it.

Can recommend this dancer for sure...on the New Orleans R'n'B tip, naturally!

Flipside is a decent enough ballad as well.

Me too.... great tune...played it at Brid Weekender and it went down well lots of interest

Thanks, I've added it to the discography above. Do you perhaps know what the record is like?

I'd call it a heavy jazz instrumental, with slightly soundtracky-sounding trumpet-led melody, busy rhythmic backing (guitar? harpsichord? something odd-sounding), full horn section, nice raw sax solo, and hard New Orleans-style drumming. Part 2 is the same with inexplicably added party/crowd noise. Cool record, but not something one would play at a dance party outside New Orleans itself. Might play at my bar gig or on the radio.

busy rhythmic backing (guitar? harpsichord? something odd-sounding),

if you hear something that sounds like a harpsichord in a soul song it's probably a clavinet:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clavinet

Okay, I played that weird Bourbon Street Cabaret Band single on the radio last night, as well as the Sonics' "Come Home Baby." Very end of show: https://wfmu.org/playlists/shows/42022

White Cliffs Records was a subsidiary of Dover Records. Most of the latter that I have seen have White Cliffs Music as their publisher. The distributorship, Dover Records, White Cliffs Records and White Cliffs Music must have been under the same umbrella and ownership, possibly with different co-owning partners in the different subsidiaries.

White Cliffs Records was a subsidiary of Dover Records. Most of the latter that I have seen have White Cliffs Music as their publisher. The distributorship, Dover Records, White Cliffs Records and White Cliffs Music must have been under the same umbrella and ownership, possibly with different co-owning partners in the different subsidiaries.

These were all Cosimo Matassa's companies. Dover was the big umbrella which distributed & funded not only his own stuff (White Cliffs etc) but also a whole grip of other New Orleans labels/productions from the early 60s up until the whole Dover thing crumbled under unpaid bills & the strain of the massive hit which was Aaron Neville's "Tell It Like It Is" on Par-Lo.

It ties in with the stuff on my website.

https://greenvilleandbeyond.wordpress.com/labels/dover/

https://greenvilleandbeyond.wordpress.com/labels/white-cliffs/

Edited June 22, 201212 yr by Kris Holmes