Paul Ogrady

Liljimmycrank · October 17, 2008

After reading some of the personal attacks it was pleasent to read, in my opinion, such a reprresentative view which to me summed up what the show was, where the scene is, and an insight into just a handful of the people we have to thank for that.
I hadn't posted on this thread due to some of the posts getting a bit over zealous towards indicuduals. I think everyone is perfectly entitled to their opinions and as a participant in the show, i am more than prepared to accept whatever criticism comes my way in relation to the show, not personal towards the people involved.

When we were approached about the show (over 3 months ago), we were interviewed by their researcher about the scene nowadays, what we as the 'young blood' thought of it, how we got into it etc etc. Subsequent conversations with teh show led us to believe that we would be talking about those similar things, along with members of the scene who were older and their views on it.
It was only on the day (when down at the studios in London a few hours before the live show) we discovered what was actually going to happen.
As it turned out, the show centred around the wigan casino and didn't represent anything to do with the scene today, with no reference to format we were led to believe was going to happen.
We were put into wardrobe under 2hrs before the show and advised that we had to re-create the Casino of mid 70's, so our clothing we would normally wear didn't fit.

It probably sounds like i'm trying to justify going on the show here - i'm not, mainly because i dont feel i have to. It wasn't for the money (we didnt get paid much to be honest) or fame. there are many differing reasons between us as to why we did it. But one thing i do know is we had a great time, a great day spent with friends i've met through the sscene. The experience of that day was fantastic and only possible because of northern soul.
I've been listening to northern since i was about 12, and although my 13yrs of experience with northern soul is minute to many on this site, i feel i know enough about the scene to suss out that the show wasn't going to do it any harm (even at the point we realised it was going to be a nostalgia trip)
I've met the most amazing people through northern soul, and i love everything about it - great music, passion, diversity, great people.

If word of mouth from the show helps make more younger people aware of northern soul (as we'd first intended those initial 3 months ago) then great. If they come along to soul do's and love the music and everything that is captivating about this scene then even better. That way the music can be kept going for decades to come.

In hindsight, would i have not done the show? Well i certainly would've wanted to know exactly what it was going to be about, and knowing that, maybe not.
But i'll not hang my head in shame as some people have suggested. We did it, it's done and i don't think any harm was caused. Apologies to those who got a bit of extra ribbing at work, but lets be honest, doesn't that happen anyway, its banter.
Thanks to those who supported what we did, and to those who stuck up for us. To those who disagreed, you are entitled to your opinion and i respect you for it. To those who got a bit personal, "i'll see you when i git there" because i for one certainly won't llet your comments put me off going to soul do's and sharing the passion of soul music with like minded people.

October 17, 2008

When we were approached about the show (over 3 months ago), we were interviewed by their researcher about the scene nowadays, what we as the 'young blood' thought of it, how we got into it etc etc. Subsequent conversations with teh show led us to believe that we would be talking about those similar things, along with members of the scene who were older and their views on it.
It was only on the day (when down at the studios in London a few hours before the live show) we discovered what was actually going to happen.
As it turned out, the show centred around the wigan casino and didn't represent anything to do with the scene today, with no reference to format we were led to believe was going to happen.
We were put into wardrobe under 2hrs before the show and advised that we had to re-create the Casino of mid 70's, so our clothing we would normally wear didn't fit.

It probably sounds like i'm trying to justify going on the show here - i'm not, mainly because i dont feel i have to. It wasn't for the money (we didnt get paid much to be honest) or fame. there are many differing reasons between us as to why we did it. But one thing i do know is we had a great time, a great day spent with friends i've met through the sscene. The experience of that day was fantastic and only possible because of northern soul.
I've been listening to northern since i was about 12, and although my 13yrs of experience with northern soul is minute to many on this site, i feel i know enough about the scene to suss out that the show wasn't going to do it any harm (even at the point we realised it was going to be a nostalgia trip)
I've met the most amazing people through northern soul, and i love everything about it - great music, passion, diversity, great people.

If word of mouth from the show helps make more younger people aware of northern soul (as we'd first intended those initial 3 months ago) then great. If they come along to soul do's and love the music and everything that is captivating about this scene then even better. That way the music can be kept going for decades to come.

In hindsight, would i have not done the show? Well i certainly would've wanted to know exactly what it was going to be about, and knowing that, maybe not.
But i'll not hang my head in shame as some people have suggested. We did it, it's done and i don't think any harm was caused. Apologies to those who got a bit of extra ribbing at work, but lets be honest, doesn't that happen anyway, its banter.
Thanks to those who supported what we did, and to those who stuck up for us. To those who disagreed, you are entitled to your opinion and i respect you for it. To those who got a bit personal, "i'll see you when i git there" because i for one certainly won't llet your comments put me off going to soul do's and sharing the passion of soul music with like minded people.

Nice one.

And as I said before if my post offended I apologise 100%. I still hated it tho :lol:

Corbett80 · October 17, 2008

I absoultely hated it as well but I also think the personal insults were out of order. Ironic from someone who seems to have had about as much involvement with northern soul in the media as anyone....their own avatar attesting to that fact.

Edited October 17, 2008 by mulf

Paulb · October 17, 2008

Same here but I also think the personal insults were well out of order. Ironic from someone who seems to have had about as much involvement with northern soul in the media as anyone....their own avatar attesting to that fact.

I would like to apologise for my outburst on here the other day. I was a bit pissed and was just trying to stick up for my mates. Me and Paul Sadot have been messaging each other and its now sorted.

Anyway I'll be seeing the O'Grady boys tonight at Beat Boutique and believe you me i'll be giving them a jolly good ribbing......

Edited October 17, 2008 by PaulB

Liljimmycrank · October 17, 2008

Nice one.
And as I said before if my post offended I apologise 100%. I still hated it tho

Sorry, my bad, forgot to add....i'm not Liam (just in case i caused any confusion)

Miss Schmidt · October 17, 2008

Seems like yesterdays news boys..it's gonna be forgotten very soon (and will only appear in one or the other nightmare )

Corbett80 · October 17, 2008

"Same here but I also think the personal insults were well out of order. Ironic from someone who seems to have had about as much involvement with northern soul in the media as anyone....their own avatar attesting to that fact.

I would like to apologise for my outburst on here the other day. I was a bit pissed and was just trying to stick up for my mates. Me and Paul Sadot have been messaging each other and its now sorted.

Anyway I'll be seeing the O'Grady boys tonight at Beat Boutique and believe you me i'll be giving them a jolly good ribbing...... "

Fair enough, glad you both got it all sorted. The soul scene is too good for bearing grudges or ill feeling.

October 17, 2008

Sorry, my bad, forgot to add....i'm not Liam (just in case i caused any confusion)

Could you please do us an intro (as expected of new members) - intros forum here - https://www.soul-source.co.uk/index.php?showforum=44

October 17, 2008

Could you please do us an intro (as expected of new members) - intros forum here - https://www.soul-source.co.uk/index.php?showforum=44

:lol: Why should Paul O'Grady do one IL didn't have to........

Roddy · October 17, 2008

but what about my bingo the nurse promissed me bingo

October 17, 2008

I would like to apologise for my outburst on here the other day. I was a bit pissed and was just trying to stick up for my mates. Me and Paul Sadot have been messaging each other and its now sorted.

Anyway I'll be seeing the O'Grady boys tonight at Beat Boutique and believe you me i'll be giving them a jolly good ribbing......

I'd like to apologise also if i went over the top, it's only because i deeply care about the music & the scene.

Simon

sister dawn · October 17, 2008

Why should Paul O'Grady do one IL didn't have to........

Right everyone ready for the Jeremy Kyle show now then????

Roddy · October 17, 2008

whats the topic on jeremy "my sisters venue wants to sleep with my venue"

Edited October 17, 2008 by Roddy

Billywhizz · October 17, 2008

THEN YOU'VE BLOODY LITTLE ELSE TO WORRY ABOUT, A 25 YEAR OLD LAD MAKING A FEW QUID ON A DAFT PROGRAMME ON TV... GET A GRIP... HARDLY THE DOWNFALL OF THE NORTHERN SCENE ITS WITHSTOOD MUCH WORSE AND IT'S STILL GOING STRONG... DO WE REALLY GIVE A FLYING F**K WHAT PEOPLE THINK OF US.. WE KNOW HOW THINGS ARE TODAY MOST OF US HAVE MOVED ON AND ARE ENJOYIN THE MUSIC FAR MORE THAN WE DID 30 YEARS AGO... SOUL REMIT MY ARSE... IF WE'RE HONEST MOST OF US ARE JUST GLAD TO STILL BE ABLE TO GET OUT TO VENUES TO DANCE AND HEAR THE ODD TUNE WE'VE NEVER HEARD BEFORE OR FOR A WHILE ANYWAY, IT DOES'NT MEAN WE LOVE THE SCENE LESS JUST BECAUSE SOME OF US DONT GIVE A KIPPERS DICK IF SOME YOUNG PEOPLE WANNA MAKE A FEW QUID OUT OF IT... THOSE DAYS ARE OVER SO WE BETTER GET OVER OURSELVES... KEEP DANCIN AND YES DARE I SAY KEEP THE FAITH BUT FOOK WHAT OTHER PEOPLE DO.... TO THY OWN SELF BE TRUE. AND WE CANT GO WRONG.......... END OF RANT......... Kev

Spot on kev, liam is top bloke, hes got more girlfriends than i've got years to my age lol.

Billy

sister dawn · October 17, 2008

whats the topic on jeremy "my sisters venue wants to sleep with my venue"

Hell no has that one not been done to death already :lol:

October 17, 2008

Been having a titter at this thread, hadn't seen the program till I looked at the links on here....god don't some of us take it all seriously.

I guess i'm used to the banter as my hardcore circle of friends were never into the music anyhow so I was always getting the p*** ripped into me about my pastime, even at my wedding my best man couldn't resist jibes about dancing alone like 'Dumbo on ice'

My take on the show ?Most of this has already been said but : Not brilliant & did no favors as such but it was as i would have expected it to appear on the POG show. He treats every subject with the same sense of humor & you either like it or you don't, but from what i have seen of his show he's consistent & it wasn't just 'getting at' NS.

In fact if you have a good listen to the first part he reiterates on several occasions his love of the music & that there is no way you could ever get over how good it felt, & the joking was really just about the fashions of the time.

And lets be honest, he was a bit kinder about that than some of the flak thrown on here at the people who 'still' like to wear it !

I thought everything that Sandy bloke said was fine & he really put it across well. Why did someone on here have to have a go at his hairstyle ? Thought that was one of the good things i could remember, that the scene accepted all sorts & no one was discriminated ?

On to the young guys, they did no harm, all it did was give the granny's in the audience something to whoop & marvel at.

Don't think it will have had much effect in bringing new youngsters to the music as there wouldn't have been any watching....... Only those forced by their parents on here

But keep on doing what you are doing guys :lol: then maybe one day the general public will get to hear the real NS & then see what it 'is' all about..........Perhaps be a bit more wary of the media though, they are not all your friends

Paul-s · October 17, 2008

After reading some of the personal attacks it was pleasent to read, in my opinion, such a reprresentative view which to me summed up what the show was, where the scene is, and an insight into just a handful of the people we have to thank for that.
I hadn't posted on this thread due to some of the posts getting a bit over zealous towards indicuduals. I think everyone is perfectly entitled to their opinions and as a participant in the show, i am more than prepared to accept whatever criticism comes my way in relation to the show, not personal towards the people involved.

When we were approached about the show (over 3 months ago), we were interviewed by their researcher about the scene nowadays, what we as the 'young blood' thought of it, how we got into it etc etc. Subsequent conversations with teh show led us to believe that we would be talking about those similar things, along with members of the scene who were older and their views on it.
It was only on the day (when down at the studios in London a few hours before the live show) we discovered what was actually going to happen.
As it turned out, the show centred around the wigan casino and didn't represent anything to do with the scene today, with no reference to format we were led to believe was going to happen.
We were put into wardrobe under 2hrs before the show and advised that we had to re-create the Casino of mid 70's, so our clothing we would normally wear didn't fit.

It probably sounds like i'm trying to justify going on the show here - i'm not, mainly because i dont feel i have to. It wasn't for the money (we didnt get paid much to be honest) or fame. there are many differing reasons between us as to why we did it. But one thing i do know is we had a great time, a great day spent with friends i've met through the sscene. The experience of that day was fantastic and only possible because of northern soul.
I've been listening to northern since i was about 12, and although my 13yrs of experience with northern soul is minute to many on this site, i feel i know enough about the scene to suss out that the show wasn't going to do it any harm (even at the point we realised it was going to be a nostalgia trip)
I've met the most amazing people through northern soul, and i love everything about it - great music, passion, diversity, great people.

If word of mouth from the show helps make more younger people aware of northern soul (as we'd first intended those initial 3 months ago) then great. If they come along to soul do's and love the music and everything that is captivating about this scene then even better. That way the music can be kept going for decades to come.

In hindsight, would i have not done the show? Well i certainly would've wanted to know exactly what it was going to be about, and knowing that, maybe not.
But i'll not hang my head in shame as some people have suggested. We did it, it's done and i don't think any harm was caused. Apologies to those who got a bit of extra ribbing at work, but lets be honest, doesn't that happen anyway, its banter.
Thanks to those who supported what we did, and to those who stuck up for us. To those who disagreed, you are entitled to your opinion and i respect you for it. To those who got a bit personal, "i'll see you when i git there" because i for one certainly won't llet your comments put me off going to soul do's and sharing the passion of soul music with like minded people.

Hey Liam, just having a laugh mate .....just dont get stitched up by tv twats again or work with Puss Winstanley....he really is the 'kiss of death' to soul , the scene and music......

Miss Schmidt · October 17, 2008

Does it really matter what people outside of the scene think of the scene??? I mean if your nan thinks now Northern Soul is a load of rubbish do you really give a damn?

Edited October 17, 2008 by Miss Schmidt

Paul-s · October 17, 2008

I'd like to apologise also if i went over the top, it's only because i deeply care about the music & the scene.

Simon

and me!

Sammydee · October 17, 2008

Hi all

Just to make you all aware of what my stand is on this topic POG is a

comedian so we were aware that this was not going to be a serious look into

Northern Soul it was meant to be a comical look back at Pauls past and

Wigan was a part of his past. This was not something I went looking for

they came to me I received a phone call asking me if I was prepared to

appear on his show. I went in with my eyes completely open so believe me

no one made an idiot out of me I was paid for my time I lost no money paid

out for nothing myself I had a great day and was looked after real well was

given some great food and was kept supplied with drinks all day I met some

real interesting people and believe me I enjoyed myself. I personally

don't think it was done to take the pee out of anyone apart from POG. I

was treated with respect by all I met all day long. If some of you

disagree with what I did well that is up to you but come up to me when you

see me at a soul night and let me know in person not hide behind a keyboard

and computer. If what you want is someone to make a show about the soul

scene today do something about it instead of moaning about what is being

done.

Nice one.
And as I said before if my post offended I apologise 100%. I still hated it tho

Soul-slider · October 17, 2008

Hi all

Just to make you all aware of what my stand is on this topic POG is a
comedian so we were aware that this was not going to be a serious look into
Northern Soul it was meant to be a comical look back at Pauls past and
Wigan was a part of his past. This was not something I went looking for
they came to me I received a phone call asking me if I was prepared to
appear on his show. I went in with my eyes completely open so believe me
no one made an idiot out of me I was paid for my time I lost no money paid
out for nothing myself I had a great day and was looked after real well was
given some great food and was kept supplied with drinks all day I met some
real interesting people and believe me I enjoyed myself. I personally
don't think it was done to take the pee out of anyone apart from POG. I
was treated with respect by all I met all day long. If some of you
disagree with what I did well that is up to you but come up to me when you
see me at a soul night and let me know in person not hide behind a keyboard
and computer. If what you want is someone to make a show about the soul
scene today do something about it instead of moaning about what is being
done.

Nice one Sammy! Well said mate.

October 17, 2008

Well thank god every one has calmed down a bit nice to see people apologising for being OTT and starting to take the show in the way it was intended LIGHT ENTERTAINMENT I don't believe anyone on SS is not 100% into the music and 100% for the Northern Scene so let us all carry on enjoying the music and dancing our hearts out.

LOL Little miss soul xXx

October 17, 2008

If some of you
disagree with what I did well that is up to you but come up to me when you
see me at a soul night and let me know in person not hide behind a keyboard
and computer.

Hi Sammy,

I don't think anyone's hiding behind a computer & i don't mean that in an aggressive way but this is a forum & we're all entitled to our opinions, granted though it may have got a bit personal from certain quarters.

I'm glad that you enjoyed the day but i still stick to the viewpoint that this harms the image of Northern Soul, i do think you made yourselves look a bit silly but if that doesn't bother you then there's no problem.

Simon

Modernsoulsucks · October 17, 2008

i am 21 years old ive been on the scene for about 10 months and iam fucking fuming i didnt see the programme but i think its a disgrace and them dancers should be ashamed. this could be the end if a load of idiot middle class get on the scene becouse of what theve seen on tv shame shame shame p.s under no circumstances will i back down or appologizes

I don't think you have anything to worry about as it was the POG show.

However should it ever appear on the stage at Glastonbury or similar festival then that I think would be the right time to bid it farewell.

ROD

Mike · October 17, 2008

i am 21 years old ive been on the scene for about 10 months and iam fucking fuming i didnt see the programme but i think its a disgrace and them dancers should be ashamed. this could be the end if a load of idiot middle class get on the scene becouse of what theve seen on tv shame shame shame p.s under no circumstances will i back down or appologizes

go and post a intro before posting again

drop the swearing as well

link etc was in email sent when joining

Dave · October 17, 2008

i am 21 years old ive been on the scene for about 10 months and iam fucking fuming i didnt see the programme but i think its a disgrace and them dancers should be ashamed. this could be the end if a load of idiot middle class get on the scene becouse of what theve seen on tv shame shame shame p.s under no circumstances will i back down or appologizes

Your very first post and a contender for plank of the week award!

October 17, 2008

joker of the week nh soulboy

youre hilarios mate

October 17, 2008

joker of the week nh soulboy

Another interesting first post

Mike · October 17, 2008

how do i do an intro i threw the email sorry mate does anyone know

just a reminder and a quick thanks to all new members who have posted intros and all those who have welcomed

if fairly recent or just never got round to doing one then feel free to post one
does help discussion and such on here knowing who you are talking the soul with along with it being a good sort of ice breaker
here's the link

https://www.soul-source.co.uk/FB-member-Shouts-f44.html

links above

suggest that after posting intro take some time getting feel of the forum before posting

you can see what sort of reaction going to get if just jump in from nowhere shouting the odds

Soul-slider · October 17, 2008

Well thank god every one has calmed down a bit nice to see people apologising for being OTT and starting to take the show in the way it was intended LIGHT ENTERTAINMENT I don't believe anyone on SS is not 100% into the music and 100% for the Northern Scene so let us all carry on enjoying the music and dancing our hearts out.

LOL Little miss soul xXx

Think this thread should have finished with Little Miss Soul having the last word.

Mike · October 17, 2008

sounds good to me

if threads going nowhere then will close it in a hour or so

fair one?

Soul-slider · October 17, 2008

sounds good to me
if threads going nowhere then will close it in a hour or so
fair one?

October 17, 2008

sounds good to me
if threads going nowhere then will close it in a hour or so
fair one?

Do it now please and save us from any more of this

If this is the fuss Paul O Grady causes then feck knows what it's gonna be like once 'SOULED OUT' is released!

Roddy · October 17, 2008

I agree but what about my fecking speed Bingo ?

pikeys dog · October 17, 2008

Eyes down.....

A Roddy Brass dismount - Legs Eleven.

pikeys dog · October 17, 2008

LINE!

Where?> ..........................................

Roddy · October 17, 2008

LINE!

Nice one Joe i needed cheering up

Where?> ..........................................

Nz Soul · October 17, 2008

I agree but what about my fecking speed Bingo ?

how many numbers r u waiting on

October 17, 2008

That took me to this site https://www.northernsoulsister.co.uk/database/?c=soulbrother which not only let me know that Spencers are still making bags to the original pattern but that I could be the proud owner of a "Northern Soul - Keep the Faith" bar towel for a mere £5 but £1.50 p + p

Joking apart I've always worn traditionaly styled leather shoes since the 70's and they do have a nice looking pair for sale, I think I'll pass on the Fred Perry shirt and Harrington jacket though

Cheap tat. It cost me more than that in the 70's to get a pair tailor-made :yes:

As for the shoes... Might as well strap a duckbilled platypus to your foot!

As for the show, I found it hilarious! Bore no resemblance to anything I know as Northern Soul, but then again, I never thought it would.

Edited October 17, 2008 by Trevski

Maark · October 17, 2008

Been having a titter at this thread, hadn't seen the program till I looked at the links on here....god don't some of us take it all seriously.
I guess i'm used to the banter as my hardcore circle of friends were never into the music anyhow so I was always getting the p*** ripped into me about my pastime, even at my wedding my best man couldn't resist jibes about dancing alone like 'Dumbo on ice'

My take on the show ?Most of this has already been said but : Not brilliant & did no favors as such but it was as i would have expected it to appear on the POG show. He treats every subject with the same sense of humor & you either like it or you don't, but from what i have seen of his show he's consistent & it wasn't just 'getting at' NS.
In fact if you have a good listen to the first part he reiterates on several occasions his love of the music & that there is no way you could ever get over how good it felt, & the joking was really just about the fashions of the time.
And lets be honest, he was a bit kinder about that than some of the flak thrown on here at the people who 'still' like to wear it !
I thought everything that Sandy bloke said was fine & he really put it across well. Why did someone on here have to have a go at his hairstyle ? Thought that was one of the good things i could remember, that the scene accepted all sorts & no one was discriminated ?

On to the young guys, they did no harm, all it did was give the granny's in the audience something to whoop & marvel at.
Don't think it will have had much effect in bringing new youngsters to the music as there wouldn't have been any watching....... Only those forced by their parents on here
But keep on doing what you are doing guys then maybe one day the general public will get to hear the real NS & then see what it 'is' all about..........Perhaps be a bit more wary of the media though, they are not all your friends

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