Following on from the excellent thread highlighting unusual releases from around the world I thought it would be of equal interest to see label scans of acetates. I'm sure many of us have the odd item sitting on the shelf.

I'll kick off with 4 of mine

Andy

Here's a couple for the collection

One more - Jean Wells for Chalky..

Interesting that the Oscar Wright studio disc features the same date 5/12/66 as the Mira Sound acetate for Little Tommy's "Baby Can't You See", credited to The Upsetters. The Upsetters' leader and sax player was Grady Gaines, writer of "Fell In Love". I wonder if the date means both tracks were recorded on the same day? The two studios are only a few streets apart.

One more - Jean Wells for Chalky..

The George Smith with spoken intro was same label as this only a multi coloured design of the tower and bigger. Empire state building not Blackpool tower like yours

Here's a favourite of mine.

The Exceptions - Baby (A.K.A. Baby, You Know I Need You) b/w The Look In Their Eyes

Up-tempo version of their Groovey Grooves release. Much better IMO.

Here's a you tube link to hear the unreleased version if anyone is interested.

This was also pressed up on an "Impact" acetate of which there is a few knocking about i believe.

Cheers,

Eddie

The George Smith with spoken intro was same label as this only a multi coloured design of the tower and bigger. Empire state building not Blackpool tower like yours

You must be so proud...

The George Smith with spoken intro was same label as this only a multi coloured design of the tower and bigger. Empire state building not Blackpool tower like yours

Eiffel Tower isn't it?

You must be so proud...

Yeh why not, stupid for selling it though.

Here's a couple for the collection

Brilliant

It's lucky Randy didn't know about this, he'd be on the train to Nottingham!

Any bats up them towers ken !?!

Interesting that the Oscar Wright studio disc features the same date 5/12/66 as the Mira Sound acetate for Little Tommy's "Baby Can't You See", credited to The Upsetters. The Upsetters' leader and sax player was Grady Gaines, writer of "Fell In Love". I wonder if the date means both tracks were recorded on the same day? The two studios are only a few streets apart.

Hi Gareth,

Yes that could be the case i suppose..Clearly that's a case of multi tasking

One more - Jean Wells for Chalky..

As they say in Little Britain...."I want that one"

Very nice pal, one of my all time favourite records.

Brilliant

It's lucky Randy didn't know about this, he'd be on the train to Nottingham!

Nice isn't it. Also got Mel Wynn "Don't wanna lose you" on same with inst on the other side..

Hi Alan, funny i got the same Maxine off ebay last yr, looks great on the wall , Arthur.

Here is another Little Tommy as far as I can see this is un-released & and one for the Smith Connection, also un-released

Edited July 21, 201113 yr by Dave Thorley

One more, Carol Anderson

Backing track to Marva Lee - If You Can't be True

Fantastic version of Major Lance sung by van McCoy

Hi Alan, funny i got the same Maxine off ebay last yr, looks great on the wall , Arthur.

Hi Arthur, Due to a piece of the vinyl missing this is my one for the wall...

Interesting that the Oscar Wright studio disc features the same date 5/12/66 as the Mira Sound acetate for Little Tommy's "Baby Can't You See", credited to The Upsetters. The Upsetters' leader and sax player was Grady Gaines, writer of "Fell In Love". I wonder if the date means both tracks were recorded on the same day? The two studios are only a few streets apart.

Hi Gareth,

This has no date on it but gotm it from the same guy as the Oscar Wright from memory...

Some great contributions here. Really like the unreleased Little Tommy of Dave's. Notice it's for sale at topdogrecords.co.uk

Backing track to Marva Lee - If You Can't be True

Fantastic version of Major Lance sung by van McCoy

Do you know who is singing "Never Ever Leave Me" for Mickay's Records? I don't know of any Mickay's release with that title. Does it sound like J.J. Barnes, Orthea Barnes, Mel Anton, or The Legends? What does it sound like?

Do you know who is singing "Never Ever Leave Me" for Mickay's Records? I don't know of any Mickay's release with that title. Does it sound like J.J. Barnes, Orthea Barnes, Mel Anton, or The Legends? What does it sound like?

It is Orthea Barnes, it is available on the new Dave Hamilton CD on Kent 356 (Dave Hamilton's Detroit Soul) and it is a corker!

By the way the Shelton pic is a vinyl test press, there are a couple knocking about, I have it on an International acetate, different version the CD one.

It is Orthea Barnes, it is available on the new Dave Hamilton CD on Kent 356 (Dave Hamilton's Detroit Soul) and it is a corker!

By the way the Shelton pic is a vinyl test press, there are a couple knocking about, I have it on an International acetate, different version the CD one.

Tony, that was an acetate not a vinyl copy. It was Mick Smith's, I sold it for him (and those other two).

Hi Gareth,

This has no date on it but gotm it from the same guy as the Oscar Wright from memory...

The Little Tommy with the Upsetters acetate is a much better sound recording than the actual issued 45 - is that the same for this one too?

"Also got Mel Wynn "Don't wanna lose you" on same with inst on the other side.. "

Would love to hear this!!!

The Little Tommy with the Upsetters acetate is a much better sound recording than the actual issued 45 - is that the same for this one too?

Sorry Joel. No idea as I don't own the record. It's a scan I kept from an old ebay listing.

Does anybody know or own an acetate fo the

BARRINO BROTHERS - BAD THINGS YOU SAID TO ME?

Does anybody know or own an acetate fo the

BARRINO BROTHERS - BAD THINGS YOU SAID TO ME?

I had it from master tape, I've never seen an acetate

Johnny Caswell....

Motown rundown acetate with two takes of lonely lover on which was never issued as a single and featuring a dyslexic typist on the Jr. Walker track

It is Orthea Barnes, it is available on the new Dave Hamilton CD on Kent 356 (Dave Hamilton's Detroit Soul) and it is a corker!

By the way the Shelton pic is a vinyl test press, there are a couple knocking about, I have it on an International acetate, different version the CD one.

That's surprising to me that Dave Hamilton was involved in a Mickay's production. I never saw his name on any of those records (Mickay's or Orthea (Ortheia) on Coral. I assume that he must then have been the arranger. The listed arrangers on Mickay's were Joe Hunter, Fred Brown, Mike Hanks, Phil Wright (Chicago) and McKinley Jackson.

Do you know what Dave Hamilton had to do with that Orthea Barnes Mickay's production?

Tony, that was an acetate not a vinyl copy. It was Mick Smith's, I sold it for him (and those other two).

Okay Pete, then it was a different copy to the one I saw/held back in 1990 after I'd thought I got a nice unknown, only to be shown a vinyl copy (along with the Softiques also on Sheldon). I didn't know Mick had it and Mick didn't know I had it, until one night in Valencia I played it at that point the only know copies......

I used to have Richard Popcorn Wylie Rosemary On an Atlantic Acetate. Said to be for possible release on Atlantic after Karen.

Probably not - Karen records were distributed by Atco for a period - more likely it was just a reference disc for the Karen issue.

This is the coolest acetate I have -- Channel 3 doing a version of "The Lively Ones" (which was released by Brooks O'Dell). Flip is a nice ballad called "Look into my eyes". Both sides are definitely demos with just like a guitar and drums. I have an even rawer Channel 3 demo but can't find it right now. The best acetates I have have no markings at all and are mystery artists.

That's surprising to me that Dave Hamilton was involved in a Mickay's production. I never saw his name on any of those records (Mickay's or Orthea (Ortheia) on Coral. I assume that he must then have been the arranger. The listed arrangers on Mickay's were Joe Hunter, Fred Brown, Mike Hanks, Phil Wright (Chicago) and McKinley Jackson.

Do you know what Dave Hamilton had to do with that Orthea Barnes Mickay's production?

He wrote the song with Joe Hunter and arranged/produced it with Joe. He worked at all sorts of early Detroit labels like MAHS, KeKe, Velvet Sound etc

I had two copies of the acetates (I wouldn't be surprised if Mick's came from me too) and all were acetate not vinyl. There is a totally different mix which is harsher but with an accentuated beat, so better for dancers, which we will put out on a Kent 45 soonish.

Probably not - Karen records were distributed by Atco for a period - more likely it was just a reference disc for the Karen issue.

correct joe, theres a couple of atlantic acetates of rosemary knocking around, ive got one which is a different take to the 45, with type written credits and " take # 3 " hand written on,

I bought the Orthia Barnes of Pete, Manship sold another about a year later for £1500 mines for sale at the moment

Lee Garrett - Issued take?

Lee Garrett - definately not the issued take.

Al Gardner - I'm Movin On - not the issued take? sounds rawer.

Baby Jewel - Storming uptempo Northern / R&B - Unissued

David Will - a~side

David Will - b~side.

Note it's a pairing of the a-sides of his two 45s on Soul Craft - not sure if they are the issued versions though.

Mary Wells - reference disc for her Jubilee 45 (?)

Another Mary Wells that came in a batch of Motown related disc along with the acetate above.

Detroit history currently living on my shelves...ding-dong!

I had two copies of the acetates (I wouldn't be surprised if Mick's came from me too) and all were acetate not vinyl. There is a totally different mix which is harsher but with an accentuated beat, so better for dancers, which we will put out on a Kent 45 soonish.

I recall you having that Sheldon label acetate one evening at a Capitol Soul Club doo...when I initially saw it i thought it may have been vinyl, as there are also Sheldon vinyl test presses using the same label (Condors and Softiques spring to mind).

I believe Tony and I had the other acetates from you of the Orthea Barnes...both featuring the 'smoother' mix rather than the added percussion version on the Sheldon label (currently with Ted)..

possibly the original cut of Crazy Baby. Note the title!

I think an unreleased track by The Platters

And this one!

Thelma Houston - uncredited Warner Bros 45 demo acetate for unreleased, LP only track (??)

Edited July 25, 201113 yr by Russell Gilbert

I recall you having that Sheldon label acetate one evening at a Capitol Soul Club doo...when I initially saw it i thought it may have been vinyl, as there are also Sheldon vinyl test presses using the same label (Condors and Softiques spring to mind).

I believe Tony and I had the other acetates from you of the Orthea Barnes...both featuring the 'smoother' mix rather than the added percussion version on the Sheldon label (currently with Ted)..

Flynny (or anyone else here)....Did Don Davis ever answer the question as to why he leased the master of "Lucky To Be Loved By You" to Jesse Herring's tiny Wild Deuce Records instead of releasing it on Thelma? Was the leasing after Thelma 113, and the writing was on the wall that the company would close shop? I think it was Lasky's best, and might have been a hit if released on a major (that would PUSH it). Did he try to get a major to lease it? From it's sound, I'd guess it was recorded rather earlier than 108-so not really near their end of the line. Actually, it's my favourite Thelma cut. I would have been happier to see it come out on the unused Thelma 103. But, I know that that had been originally scheduled for a female solo artist (forget name).

I recall you having that Sheldon label acetate one evening at a Capitol Soul Club doo...when I initially saw it i thought it may have been vinyl, as there are also Sheldon vinyl test presses using the same label (Condors and Softiques spring to mind).

I believe Tony and I had the other acetates from you of the Orthea Barnes...both featuring the 'smoother' mix rather than the added percussion version on the Sheldon label (currently with Ted)..

Yeah, defo acetate though.

possibly the original cut of Crazy Baby. Note the title! I think an unreleased track by The Platters And this one!

Hi Ady,

The Platters was a Musicor LP track and the Jeffrey Bowen a Mercury 45 as you probably know. Is the Crazy Baby an alternate recording?

Ady

Hi Ady, knew about Jefferey Bowen, but I think the Baby Baby and the flip version of Doesn't It Ring A Bell are alternate takes to the LP versions,and the Ace version of Ring A Bell. The backing on Jimmy Sherman is the same as The Coasters but with a different vocal, Cheers, Ady

Here's some that I have, Blue rock Acetates from Dee Dee Warwick, and Renaldo Domino, Craig Moerer said the Domino Acetate came from a Chicago DJ's collection and he thought it was a single one done by his Manager.

The Sound Lab one is a reference for the Jimmy delphs released 45 on Dssi, its deffo not him, I have no idea who's singing..plus the sleeve with lots of info, was told Ron Murphy was dead, I suppose he would of known

Finally, a publishers acetate from that lot Jimmy Radcliffe's son was selling some years back, black Patch productions or something...unreleased track by Barbara English..

Mal

Edited July 25, 201113 yr by Mal.C.

The Sound Lab one is a reference for the Jimmy Delphs released 45 on DSSI, its deffo not him, I have no idea who's singing..plus the sleeve with lots of info, was told Ron Murphy was dead, I suppose he would of known

Mal, we had a discussion about that just after you won the DSSI demo. Unfortunately, Ron Murphy was already gone, and so we couldn't ask him. Upon listening to it, we realised it wasn't Jimmy Delphs. We concluded that it must have been the demo "reference" cut for Delphs to use as a model.

Here's the link to our thread: https://soulfuldetroi....php/t-560.html

Davie Gordon postulated that it might be one of Duane Freeman or George Mallory (the writers).

Edited July 26, 201113 yr by RobbK