Hi all,

Other than the three versions listed below on Discogs are there any other legit versions of this long time want on the mercury label?

The more I look for one the more I seem to read about the rarity of the 12 " and of the version ' that Soul Sam used to play.' was this a different 12" ?  I believe there was a re-issue 12" in the 90's on the brookside(?) label which looking at the labels was a part of the Mercury group but other than that I cant find anything more.

Thanks in advance for any info

Only one that counts, the 7" version.

20 minutes ago, Chris L said:

Only one that counts, the 7" version.

Couldnt agree more !

Only one. very rare 12 inch version. The one that Soul Sam used to play. Think you have the releases covered in your original post although I have a nagging thought that there maybe a release on an anniversary freebie 45 from some club or another. I could well be wrong tho.

Cheers Paul

Hi. I have seen soul sams 12" copy and it is the mercury version. I have the brookside 12" which is a slightly extended version of the 7" mercury release.  The mercury 12 " has the long intro and instrumental break in the middle.  Awesome tune. 

Edited March 25, 20178 yr by Greedy Mick

slightly off topic but also covered by grace Kennedy

On 3/25/2017 at 18:30, soul shrews said:

Only one. very rare 12 inch version. The one that Soul Sam used to play. Think you have the releases covered in your original post although I have a nagging thought that there maybe a release on an anniversary freebie 45 from some club or another. I could well be wrong tho.

Cheers Paul

Yes rings a bell with me as well that Paul. There's the boot that keeps cropping up on ebay (one on there at the minute), the soul power one with 'the mark IV on the flip and there's the Philly groove one that again is on ebay at the minute but I want a real one if I can afford it !! I know exactly the one that you mean as they play it at hull soul club. Oh and the 'Brookside' one that has been mentioned in this discussion.

 

John

Edited March 26, 20178 yr by Fishdockroad

12 hours ago, codfromderby said:

slightly off topic but also covered by grace Kennedy

Never heard that one but I'll give it a listen. Bet its cheaper than Alfie's version !!!

3 minutes ago, Fishdockroad said:

Never heard that one but I'll give it a listen. Bet its cheaper than Alfie's version !!!

oh yes, it got a few plays years,ago, pay anymore than a fiver and you've been done

22 hours ago, Greedy Mick said:

Hi. I have seen soul sams 12" copy and it is the mercury version. I have the brookside 12" which is a slightly extended version of the 7" mercury release.  The mercury 12 " has the long intro and instrumental break in the middle.  Awesome tune. 

Is that classed as an official release or have they just used 'Brookside' as its on the original label ??

3 minutes ago, codfromderby said:

oh yes, it got a few plays years,ago, pay anymore than a fiver and you've been done

Album only? (according to Discogs anyway).

Also I remember the first copies Soul Bowl sold of the 45 all jumped about 3/4 way in. Don"t think anyone sent em back as you couldn"t get it anywhere else at the time. Think they were a couple of quid each.

Cheers Paul

Brookside version poor sound quality IMO, very muffled and nowhere near as good as on Mercury

Another oddity is the 7" promo has a stereo mix whereas the 7" issue is mono. I have the issue but would have preferred a stereo mix 

12" version strangely unsatisfying IMO, love the 7" but the 12" mix too disjointed

 

Has this been mentioned as I see releases of questionable origin have already been mentioned?

 

Cheers,

Mark R

3 hours ago, Chris Turnbull said:

Brookside version poor sound quality IMO, very muffled and nowhere near as good as on Mercury

Another oddity is the 7" promo has a stereo mix whereas the 7" issue is mono. I have the issue but would have preferred a stereo mix 

12" version strangely unsatisfying IMO, love the 7" but the 12" mix too disjointed

 

Never knew that Chris. Just looked at the pictures on discogs and the issue doesn't say mono or stereo so thanks for letting me know. Promo on 7" it is then, if I can ever find a reasonably priced one that is. 

 

John

2 hours ago, Mark R said:

Has this been mentioned as I see releases of questionable origin have already been mentioned?

 

Cheers,

Mark R

Forgot about that one !

Cheers Mark.

1 hour ago, Fishdockroad said:

Forgot about that one !

Cheers Mark.

That's what I thought.......30 years since and our memories fade!!

 

Cheers,

Mark R

There was another boot with Benny Spellman fortune teller on tuther side and from memory it had a good sound quality,i think i gave  it to Shaun at Red Bar

 

https://www.discogs.com/Benny-Spellman-Fortune-Teller/release/3398811

And don't forget there's that Small text/Big text issues.

 

Small text being first issue, so I am told!

 

P

bought it at a scooter rally in the 80's for 2 quid. it was always a big rally sound at all the do's. usually followed by velvet hammer "happy".

its lurking somewhere in my loft.

great tune to dance to.

 

Love Is In The Air is a very similar song imo

19 hours ago, soulacola said:

bought it at a scooter rally in the 80's for 2 quid. it was always a big rally sound at all the do's. usually followed by velvet hammer "happy".

its lurking somewhere in my loft.

great tune to dance to.

 

If it's only lurking somewhere up in the loft surely you want to sell it 😃?? I'll give you more than 2 quid for it 😃  

On 28/03/2017 at 15:04, smudger said:

There was another boot with Benny Spellman fortune teller on tuther side and from memory it had a good sound quality,i think i gave  it to Shaun at Red Bar

 

https://www.discogs.com/Benny-Spellman-Fortune-Teller/release/3398811

Never knew about that one Smudger 👍  

On 3/26/2017 at 08:52, codfromderby said:

slightly off topic but also covered by grace Kennedy

Its a not bad either

 

P 

On 27/03/2017 at 18:51, Mark R said:

Has this been mentioned as I see releases of questionable origin have already been mentioned?

 

Cheers,

Mark R

I like playing the above one more than my original copy, Bought the SOS 45 in the 8ts, had no money, all I could afford at the time, excluding a small amount for my beer money... its lived with me that old 45.....

I played the 12"  version on mercury at the nuneaton 70's/80's all niter as always it got lots on the floor. 

As per an earlier post, I have this version. Rare on 7", and a great female version.

Thanks all for the replies and advice and by an uncanny coincidence the final reply above from  Northern Soul Uk kind of brings this discussion full circle. Allow me to explain!!

Below the picture of the above version by Grace Kennedy is, in red, a plug for a forthcoming event at Leeds Central with residents and guest dj Mally Meah on Sunday June the 18th.

Mally recently dj'd for us at our Sunday Soul session in Cleethorpes and I followed him on the decks. As he was sorting his records, just in front of the dj box, he started discussing and looking at some of his records with a friend of mine and low and behold I spotted that he had Alfie Davison on the 7" promo on Mercury. I shouted to him gave him the thumbs up regarding the record and he passed it to me for me to look at and then told me I could play it if I wanted which I did and it was that that  prompted me to start this discussion!! Now I just need to find myself a copy !!

Great bloke and he raised the roof at our little do !!!

On 3/28/2017 at 15:04, smudger said:

There was another boot with Benny Spellman fortune teller on tuther side and from memory it had a good sound quality,i think i gave  it to Shaun at Red Bar

 

https://www.discogs.com/Benny-Spellman-Fortune-Teller/release/3398811

Just got one of the ones in the link, as you say supposed to be a decent press and was, according to my sources, pressed up in the 80s not too long after the original was pressed, so still 30 years old'ish

Edited April 24, 20178 yr by Northern Soul UK

On ‎26‎/‎03‎/‎2017 at 21:25, codfromderby said:

oh yes, it got a few plays years,ago, pay anymore than a fiver and you've been done

 

 

On 4/21/2017 at 23:57, Northern Soul UK said:

As per an earlier post, I have this version. Rare on 7", and a great female version.

 

Sounds like a Ronco/MFP recording.

On 27/03/2017 at 18:51, Mark R said:

Has this been mentioned as I see releases of questionable origin have already been mentioned?

 

Cheers,

Mark R

nothing questionable about the origin of this......lordshill, southampton

This seems to be the latest boot that keeps popping up in my EBay searches!!

On 3/28/2017 at 15:53, paup-ine said:

And don't forget there's that Small text/Big text issues.

 

Small text being first issue, so I am told!

 

P

Hi there,

Just re reading this thread and I must admit that this little piece of info passed me by first time round and  again its something else I wasn't aware off. I presume that's only regarding the issue copy and again I presume as with most first issues its the more valuable of the two !

I thought it was the large test issue that was first (same size text as the demo). It was a good six months or more before JA at Soul Bowl had multiple copies for sale and they were all small text (as picture in previous post).

I suppose John could have had the small text release in earlier and was selling then selectively, but they never appeared on his list until later, as mentioned above.

Cheers
Mick

Edited November 12, 20177 yr by Mick Holdsworth

I picked up this promo about 20 years ago. Looked like it had never been out of the sleeve, love is serious business on both sides.

It jumps in several places on both sides - I have to slightly increase arm weight then its great. Maybe pressing fault 

 

On 3/25/2017 at 17:24, Chris L said:

Only one that counts, the 7" version.

There's also this bootleg from quite a few years back. Great sound quality as well.

 

ATB

Dave

41 minutes ago, Only Dreaming said:

There's also this bootleg from quite a few years back. Great sound quality as well.

 

ATB

Dave

Hiya Dave

Never seen that before.

Pete

I have the Alfie Davidson on a 12|" on 'Brookside' records from 1992 officially released in the USA, Sounds OK to me.

Edited May 10, 20187 yr by Northern Soul UK
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The Philly Groove one is legit - but it's the other take. Dx

On 26/03/2017 at 21:20, Fishdockroad said:

Never heard that one but I'll give it a listen. Bet its cheaper than Alfie's version !!!

But much harder to get hold of on 7in 

On 28/03/2017 at 15:53, paup-ine said:

And don't forget there's that Small text/Big text issues.

 

Small text being first issue, so I am told!

 

P

Done at same time.. 

This has had a couple of mentions in this discussion!!

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Northern-Soul-VERY-RARE-Grace-Kennedy-Love-is-a-serious-Business/312303887963?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131017132637%26meid%3D16d756ba07cf4c45af111641b86138eb%26pid%3D100033%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D8%26sd%3D312303887963%26itm%3D312303887963&_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042

Edited December 5, 20186 yr by Fishdockroad

On 26/03/2017 at 20:25, codfromderby said:

oh yes, it got a few plays years,ago, pay anymore than a fiver and you've been done

 

3 hours ago, Fishdockroad said:

This has had a couple of mentions in this discussion!!

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Northern-Soul-VERY-RARE-Grace-Kennedy-Love-is-a-serious-Business/312303887963?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131017132637%26meid%3D16d756ba07cf4c45af111641b86138eb%26pid%3D100033%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D8%26sd%3D312303887963%26itm%3D312303887963&_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042

Somehow these two posts do not seem to coincide....

24 minutes ago, Soulfusion said:

 

Somehow these two posts do not seem to coincide....

£1200 - Cobblers!

17 minutes ago, Peter99 said:

£1200 - Cobblers!

What's £1200 ?  

Steve 

Just now, Winsford Soul said:

What's £1200 ?  

Steve 

That Grace Kennedy LISB

And the other bootlegs

 

2 hours ago, Peter99 said:

That Grace Kennedy LISB

OMG.  That bollocks.  The world has gone mad 

Steve 

To be fair you can pay over 24 months. ( he says with a tongue firmly stuck in cheek)

Edited December 5, 20186 yr by Colnago