Here we go again, someone from our scene cuttin rug, on prime time

12 hours ago, Shufflin said:

that man moving all over the place though 🙂

why do some people do that?

It's dancing Jim, but not as we know it 😄

i'd like to see that too

Edited January 13, 20205 yr by Ian Parker

Does anybody know the title of the Omnibus documentry from 1978 shown in the clip posted earlier?

5 minutes ago, chatty said:

Does anybody know the title of the Omnibus documentry from 1978 shown in the clip posted earlier?

Was it called.  Living for the weekend or was that a latter one. ? 

48 minutes ago, chatty said:

Does anybody know the title of the Omnibus documentry from 1978 shown in the clip posted earlier?

I don't think it had a title. Omnibus was a weekly magazine program and they did a small feature on the Casino.

 The only known Wigan films are. "This England" also "Something Else", a youth prog did the small feature, and lastly "Omnibus" did a profile of the Casino.

A few more clips from the Omnibus prog are in this documentary. You'll find them at 21.26, and lastly at 38.39.

 

Ok We have all seen some fantastic Northern soul dancers on the scene and i'm sure we can all name several from every region.But My Nomination would be the Guy they simply called Soulie,think his mame was Mark Allis from Peterborough.Not seen him on the scene for several years now.He has featured on you tube clips of Cleethorpes weekender dance comps which are now sadly not available to view.He could do the lot .As i say many dancers have impressed me but SOULIE left me Transfixed and for me was tops.

6 hours ago, Blackpoolsoul said:

If you have a photo I will hopefully recognise him, great idea to upload them all as there is not a lot of stuff on The Palais (as far as I know)

I think if you put. (Curly and Carl Piper dancing)on YouTube. 

That might be him at Alfreton around 1990 Ian. 

Hugh. 

Just now, Mssoulie said:

I think if you put. (Curly and Carl Piper dancing)on YouTube. 

That might be him at Alfreton around 1990 Ian. 

Hugh. 

Ish not Ian?????

30 minutes ago, Mssoulie said:

I think if you put. (Curly and Carl Piper dancing)on YouTube. 

That might be him at Alfreton around 1990 Ian. 

Hugh. 

I remember Carl now (Super dancer) but not the guy I was referring to, the guy I was on about just stood almost still but his feet went about 100mph and I seem to think he was always in a grey suit

Edited January 13, 20205 yr by Blackpoolsoul

7 hours ago, Blackpoolsoul said:

If you have a photo I will hopefully recognise him, great idea to upload them all as there is not a lot of stuff on The Palais (as far as I know)

Garth think he was from Newark way always used to go down the brit in Notts  mid to late 70's 

On 10/01/2020 at 18:47, Kathryn Magson said:

Well said Frankie - this thread makes for very interesting reading! Hope he drops out this week though - not happy about it all being on prime-time telly! Channel 4 & to a very small audience in the early hours is one thing, but Strictly Come Dancing & now The Greatest Dancer?? NOOOOOOOO!! 😣😥

He's through to the callbacks episode which looks like it's probably on on the 1st or 8th February after all the initial heats. Dunno how much airtime he'll get on that one though because there'll be loads of other acts in it as well. Most of them a lot more spectacular. 

2 minutes ago, Timillustrator said:

He's through to the callbacks episode which looks like it's probably on on the 1st or 8th February after all the initial heats. Dunno how much airtime he'll get on that one though because there'll be loads of other acts in it as well. Most of them a lot more spectacular. 

It'll give him a few weeks to practice , and iron his trousers...

On 10/01/2020 at 17:21, Leicester Boy said:

Excellent dj and the sort of young blood the scene needs. 

Agree totally but it does make you wonder where they'll come from? Certainly I can't see anyone under 40, say, watching Giovanni on the BBC and thinking "that looks like something I'd like to check out" - probably quite the opposite. Perhaps if they saw some of the clips posted here they might be interested but this is a small obscure corner of the internet that no one is going to stumble across so I don't think any remaining "underground" part of the scene is going to suffer as a result of this.

2 minutes ago, Veedub said:

It'll give him a few weeks to practice , and iron his trousers...

D'you think he'll have the same trousers on?! Maybe we could open a book on the odds of different types of leg wear appearing 😁

Would like to know what giavani is gonna do next, apart from changing the record and Doin it all over again!!!! My missus said we should find loads of real deal soul dancers and filter them on, then we can show what it's really all about!!!!!! Back him up.!!!!!! Just an idea, I'll put Mi hard hat on and wait for the stones to be thrown. 😆

Edited January 13, 20205 yr by Baz1

2 minutes ago, Baz1 said:

Would like to know what giavani is gonna do next, apart from changing the record and Doin it all over again!!!! My missus said we should find loads of real deal soul dancers and filter them on, then we can show what it's really all about!!!!!! Back him up.!!!!!! Just an idea, I'll put Mi hard hat on and wait for the stones to be thrown. 😆

Give him his due he's got confidence levels of 1000%; dancing on his own in a brightly lit studio and in front of an audience. Not many could do that! Surround him with 20 good dancers it'd look pretty damn impressive.

24 minutes ago, Baz1 said:

Would like to know what giavani is gonna do next, apart from changing the record and Doin it all over again!!!! My missus said we should find loads of real deal soul dancers and filter them on, then we can show what it's really all about!!!!!! Back him up.!!!!!! Just an idea, I'll put Mi hard hat on and wait for the stones to be thrown. 😆

Ive heard on the grapevine, he's been practising some new moves.

 

1 hour ago, Veedub said:

I don't think it had a title. Omnibus was a weekly magazine program and they did a small feature on the Casino.

 The only known Wigan films are. "This England" also "Something Else", a youth prog did the small feature, and lastly "Omnibus" did a profile of the Casino.

A few more clips from the Omnibus prog are in this documentary. You'll find them at 21.26, and lastly at 38.39.

 

I ask because I definately remember the BBC doing something on Northern Soul after the Granada This England broadcast, It would have been around 1978 and all I can recall is it had 'Interplay' being played as the backdrop to the programme and I wondered if that Omnibus documentry was the one? 

9 minutes ago, chatty said:

I ask because I definately remember the BBC doing something on Northern Soul after the Granada This England broadcast, It would have been around 1978 and all I can recall is it had 'Interplay' being played as the backdrop to the programme and I wondered if that Omnibus documentry was the one? 

I should imagine it was the Omnibus feature. I dont think all of it has ever come to light  ?  just a few clips. Maybe theres still some unseen wigan film in the TV archives that'll be discovered someday . 

2 minutes ago, Veedub said:

I should imagine it was the Omnibus feature. I dont think all of it has ever come to light  ?  just a few clips. Maybe theres still some unseen wigan film in the TV archives that'll be discovered someday . 

It was definitely omnibus.  Just been in touch with a mate who was actually shown in the film walking up the stairs to pay Mrs Woods 

36 minutes ago, Veedub said:

I should imagine it was the Omnibus feature. I dont think all of it has ever come to light  ?  just a few clips. Maybe theres still some unseen wigan film in the TV archives that'll be discovered someday . 

Tony Palmer bought all the This England footage off Granada when he put it out on DVD in 2010 so he has all of that. Anyone got the DVD? Are there any extras or is it just the film as shown? Could there be stuff he didn't include?

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2010/apr/15/the-wigan-casino-tony-palmer

Edited January 13, 20205 yr by Timillustrator

43 minutes ago, chatty said:

I ask because I definately remember the BBC doing something on Northern Soul after the Granada This England broadcast, It would have been around 1978 and all I can recall is it had 'Interplay' being played as the backdrop to the programme and I wondered if that Omnibus documentry was the one? 

It is this documentary,,,,not online anywhere....it also has footage from Erics and the Roxy/Bowie fans

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4059158/

On 08/01/2020 at 16:58, paul-s said:

No, not everybody wore them and they were worn (by those who did) only for a brief period. The sad fact is that the historico-pastiche scene goers, (a lot of returnees included in that bracket) try to claim Northern soul past, present and future using this re-imagined look as an identifier/motif  for a scene that spans five decades. The lazy media love to present this clownish look too, as it is easier than historical research and very easily caricatured and ridiculed.  It's the narrow Casino-centric lens being applied once again, as if that was all the scene ever was and will be. The same happens with the music and so called top 500's, World Northern Soul Dance Championships or whatever. It's linked to the industry of Northern Soul, it reifies it for commercial/economic reasons and is not representative of Northern Soul's rich and nuanced history: which includes music, venues, fashion styles, dancing styles and more. 

In Chapter 16 of this book I write about, amongst other things, the Casino-centric lens and its mis-use : https://www.equinoxpub.com/home/northern-soul/  and interestingly enough, I start with an anecdote about playing Jonathan Capree in 2005 at Middleton all-nighter...

Very well articulated Paul. It's not just the contemporary media to blame either, the media incompetence is historical. 

6 minutes ago, wiggyflat said:

It is this documentary,,,,not online anywhere....it also has footage from Erics and the Roxy/Bowie fans

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4059158/

The Omnibus feature ? How did you find that out ??  do you think the rest of the footage of Wigan still exists , apart from the couple of clips ??

Personally I'd prefer to see to some young people doing there own thing. Following a tradition of youth culture. 

 

feel tired just watching this one...guy in blue polo quietly stealing the show among the athletic mayhem 🙂 all of them did great imo

 

1 hour ago, Veedub said:

The Omnibus feature ? How did you find that out ??  do you think the rest of the footage of Wigan still exists , apart from the couple of clips ??

Is that the midweek filming somewhere in Manchester and midweek wigan?  There is footage of one of them if you look on Youtube Sweets Something About You Baby.

Edited January 13, 20205 yr by Chalky

To save you looking...

 

Edited January 13, 20205 yr by Chalky

37 minutes ago, Timillustrator said:

Tony Palmer bought all the This England footage off Granada when he put it out on DVD in 2010 so he has all of that. Anyone got the DVD? Are there any extras or is it just the film as shown? Could there be stuff he didn't include?

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2010/apr/15/the-wigan-casino-tony-palmer

I have the DVD Tony put out, none of the out takes on it just what was shown on TV if memory serves.  There is far more on YouTube.

8 minutes ago, Chalky said:

Is that the midweek filming somewhere in Manchester of midweek wigan?  There is footage of one of them if you look on Youtube Sweets Something About You Baby.

Thats it , same clips as posted above in my earlier post " the way of the crowd doc",  then the same girl ( dark bob hairstyle) is spinning in the casino, so same film feature..Omnibus.

Edited January 13, 20205 yr by Veedub

6 minutes ago, Chalky said:

To save you looking...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFx9XD-RRF4

I remember the lad with the choker type necklace dancing in Mr Ms 79/80ish, think his name is Sandy, he used to do some type of martial arts.

11 minutes ago, Chalky said:

Is that the midweek filming somewhere in Manchester of midweek wigan?  There is footage of one of them if you look on Youtube Sweets Something About You Baby.

It was filmed in the studio on the Wednesday then onto the casino later to film the club scene 

30 minutes ago, Veedub said:

The Omnibus feature ? How did you find that out ??  do you think the rest of the footage of Wigan still exists , apart from the couple of clips ??

I tried to track it down a few years ago..someone posted footage from the doc on youtube but they had only taped the Bowie disco bit!.It needs someone to get into the archives.Loads of Omnibus on the i player but not this one.I did find some footage from an early pre Wigan club in York with a few lads in Torch badges.Also Tom Hassett has super 8 footage of Wigan which has not been seen. It is taken on the night of the filming and Dave Kilworth lent Tom his Super 8 camera.

Just now, Widnes63 said:

I remember the lad with the choker type necklace dancing in Mr Ms 79/80ish, think his name is Sandy, he used to do some type of martial arts.

Sandy was from Bolton Ste of i remember rightly.  He actually held the world record for push ups or sit ups or something like that, think he won one of the dance comps at the casino 

6 minutes ago, Widnes63 said:

I remember the lad with the choker type necklace dancing in Mr Ms 79/80ish, think his name is Sandy, he used to do some type of martial arts.

Sandy Holt

4 minutes ago, Winsford Soul said:

Sandy was from Bolton Ste of i remember rightly.  He actually held the world record for push ups or sit ups or something like that, think he won one of the dance comps at the casino 

Champ kick/Thai boxer or summat like 

2 minutes ago, Chalky said:

Sandy Holt

He was a European kick boxing champ, wasn't he? Along with Duncan pollet,who could also move a bit. 

21 hours ago, davemac3 said:

she's good, great timing

 

 

 

 

Not too sure about this. I think she’s dancing for the camera. She’s mixing up three styles of dancing with  bit of showing off thrown in. Admittedly, the tune prompts a bit of doing the fandango, but the video star has got carried away methinks. There are better video clips of her strutting her stuff at other venues.

3 minutes ago, Geeselad said:

He was a European kick boxing champ, wasn't he? Along with Duncan pollet,who could also move a bit. 

Duncan  Pollett... heres him in 91  dancing, he was brilliant !! 1hr15min 27sec  in...

 

36 minutes ago, Widnes63 said:

I remember the lad with the choker type necklace dancing in Mr Ms 79/80ish, think his name is Sandy, he used to do some type of martial arts.

Necklace had a black fist. Sandy wore towelling wristbands and tucked a beer towel into the waistband of his bags. Probably did more than anyone else to present a much-copied dress style as he was an eye-catching dancer with a much-copied routine of acrobatic stunts in between stints of pedestrian footwork.

47 minutes ago, Winsford Soul said:

 think he won one of the dance comps at the casino 

From my very faded memory I think it was 78 when he won. 

Some great video footage on here, it's like a mini time capsule 👍

19 minutes ago, Soulandy said:

Some great video footage on here, it's like a mini time capsule 👍

I have some of them every time I go out 😎🤣

1 hour ago, Widnes63 said:

I remember the lad with the choker type necklace dancing in Mr Ms 79/80ish, think his name is Sandy, he used to do some type of martial arts.

Sandy Holt, he was British & European Thai Boxing champion, he trained under Master Sken, whereas I trained under Master Toddy in the late 70s early 80s. He made a career out of it whereas I liked my face the way it was!

2 hours ago, Veedub said:

Duncan  Pollett... heres him in 91  dancing, he was brilliant !! 1hr15min 27sec  in...

 

Lives in Portugal now i'm informed

On 13/01/2020 at 09:47, Blackpoolsoul said:

Rugby had some great dancers and it's nearly in the South 😀

"Had" 😮😉

On 13/01/2020 at 19:34, Frankie Crocker said:

Not too sure about this. I think she’s dancing for the camera. She’s mixing up three styles of dancing with  bit of showing off thrown in. Admittedly, the tune prompts a bit of doing the fandango, but the video star has got carried away methinks. There are better video clips of her strutting her stuff at other venues.

'fandango' 😂 made me chuckle.....thanks...

https://youtu.be/jqu4g6rmJvs now here a few people how can dance it bit 👍 excuse 1st 20 seconds. 

Edited January 17, 20205 yr by Rhino

Remember Winston in Mr M's

Great dancer  and so cool 😊 

Theres a lady DJ......doing the rounds.......who is as good a dancer as anybody I've seen.

I'm crap with names, but you will know who she is if you've seen her.

Ed