Well Bidding has begun on Manships and the previous record has been broken. Currently £15019 at 11.59 2nd Feb but with the final day being the 29th of April it looks like it could go a lot higher! I'm not in the running but will follow with interest.Good luck punters!

Needs a link ?

Well Bidding has begun on Manships and the previous record has been broken. Currently £15019 at 11.59 2nd Feb but with the final day being the 29th of April it looks like it could go a lot higher! I'm not in the running but will follow with interest.Good luck punters!

Now that the auction has started,it now goes to show it was Kennys copy not a total new one!!!!!!!

So there are only two copies that exsist!!!!

Unless some guy in London has one!!!???????

Needs a link ?

https://www.raresoulman.co.uk/auction/all-auction

is someone starting a sweep to guess the final price?....

talking about rare Motown, did you see the Supremes - those D.J. Shows - acetate on ebay.

Buy it now 25.000 !!!

https://cgi.ebay.com/MEGA-MOTOWN-SUPREMES-A...A1%7C240%3A1318

talking about rare Motown, did you see the Supremes - those D.J. Shows - acetate on ebay.

Buy it now 25.000 !!!

https://cgi.ebay.com/MEGA-MOTOWN-SUPREMES-A...A1%7C240%3A1318

£17000. inc free shipping if i spent that i would want to go and collect it... imagine that turning up in the post with a rice crispy packet as a stiffner!!!

just out of intrest did anyone see the starting price of the frank wilson?

just out of intrest did anyone see the starting price of the frank wilson?

Starting bid was £1.

Starting bid was £1.

How ever big the hype or rare the record was imagine how you would feel after spending £15000 on a record to see it start at a £1.. you would be watching it every 10 minutes stressing.. at least Kenny can relax now..

£16K+ now

I assume that's most on here out of the running then? And no I didn't bid cos knew I stood no chance.

ROD

Just imagine...

Someone attempts to show off and has a bid (with no intention of buying it), just so they can say they bid on it. What would happen to them if the ended up being the winning bidder? Would they have to complete the transaction? Does John Manships auctions differ from Ebay, is it legally binding?

PS I have no intention of bidding. My Tamla Motown copy is sufficient enough for me.

Edited April 2, 200916 yr by Supercorsa

£16K+ now

I assume that's most on here out of the running then? And no I didn't bid cos knew I stood no chance.

ROD

Me no chance either Rod.

Supercorsa - yes I think a bid on a computer auction web site is legally binding.

I thought the FW auction was going to coincide with Johns new updated site, am I just using a old link or is it not live yet?

Darren

www.raresoul45s.co.uk

surely some bright spark will print t shirts..." I BID ON FRANK WILSON"....... ...with label scan

or is it not live yet?

Darren

www.raresoul45s.co.uk

It looked quite live to me.

Maybe drop him a pm if you were curious?

surely some bright spark will print t shirts..." I BID ON FRANK WILSON"....... ...with label scan

I've made up a one-off T-shirt with 'I Won Frank Wilson' on it which I'm willing to let go for £14,999.

I was at the Dundee soul night acouple of weeks ago and I said to kenny - "Hey Kenny you not sold that record yet" never thinking it was kennys copy up for sale - Well I never!

I've made up a one-off T-shirt with 'I Won Frank Wilson' on it which I'm willing to let go for £14,999.

Mmm. A one-off? That's rarer then the damn record..........

Ian D

My wife called me down from my office this morning @ 8 saying "hey Mark, John Manship's on the radio" - now, my wife has no idea who John actually is, all she knows about him is that she sometimes sees his name on emails in my inbox...John was on 6Music this morning talking about the FW auction - anybody else hear it? 'rarest record in the world' and 'most valuable record in the world' were both being bandied about...

Must be pretty big news if the Beeb are covering it? I wonder if Trevor McDoughnut will mention it as "the last item" on News At Ten on the day the auction ends...? "And finally, over to Melton Mowbray for a look into the strange world of Northern Soul record collecting..."

i think it will go for about £42,500.

I'm not going any higher,the missus will kill me!! .

£85,000 maybe higher

talking about rare Motown, did you see the Supremes - those D.J. Shows - acetate on ebay.

Buy it now 25.000 !!!

https://cgi.ebay.com/MEGA-MOTOWN-SUPREMES-A...A1%7C240%3A1318

Funny, like his sentence:

"WOW !!!! SO THERE IT IS ALL THERE FOR THE TAKING AT A SMALL PRICE CONSIDERING THAT JOHN MANSHIP WILL BE AUCTIONING THE FRANK WILSON ON SOUL FOR A SUM OF 100,000 DOLLARS !"

though..

Still I wonder where he got the 100.000 USD from as well as his very own starting bid..I mean if any unreleased Jobete acetate will fetch sums like that I am a nearly a milionaire without knowing...I think its all down to the Motown 50th anniversary "hype".

Back to "DILYIID", just how "nice" it is to see it advertised! If he himself, Frank Wilson, still stands to his offer of 50.000 UKP I am sure thats what the 45 will make at least. Maybe less 100 UK for his very own writing on label LOL.

Maybe certain American(s) will get involved as well in which case I could see this making even more. One thing I am almost pretty certain about...either way the winner won`t be living in Europe incl. Britain.

Marc

Edited April 2, 200916 yr by Marc Forrest

Maybe certain American(s) will get involved as well in which case I could see this making even more. One thing I am almost pretty certain about...either way the winner won`t be living in Europe incl. Britain.

Marc

I was thinking this as well. I wonder if the eventual buyer will even be revealed. It'll be a shame if it disappears into some private Motown collection never to see the light of day (or a turntable at a nighter in Britain) ever again.

my sister text me the other day,asking if i had a record by frank wilson cause its worth a 100k.

i said no but will have one soon,lol.

bless her.

ill say it will go for........ £49,167. or £70k in trades,lol.

Is it just me or is it a bit weird auctioning a UK copy with the pic sleeve at the same time as the US original (check the auction site)???

Cheers

Richard

Is it just me or is it a bit weird auctioning a UK copy with the pic sleeve at the same time as the US original (check the auction site)???

Cheers

Richard

Edited April 2, 200916 yr by Premium Stuff

Great link!The TNJs record John is auctioning for me is the record before it!

Should help the single I am reluctantly selling get some attention.(The TNJs is incidentally a superb New Jersey double sider from the group who I think I read worked with Bunny Sigler)

If you can not afford Frank , maybe you could bid a few grand on that one!

cheers

francis t

Wolfgang Vondoof is turning in his grave for not being able to have a go

My wife called me down from my office this morning @ 8 saying "hey Mark, John Manship's on the radio" - now, my wife has no idea who John actually is, all she knows about him is that she sometimes sees his name on emails in my inbox...John was on 6Music this morning talking about the FW auction - anybody else hear it? 'rarest record in the world' and 'most valuable record in the world' were both being bandied about...

Frank Wilson was on public radio this morning...didn't hear much of it, but I'm assuming it was about the record.

Is this the copy that was aledgedly 'lifted' from the Motown reference library , If it is, and does go for 50K or more do you think that claims of rightful ownwership will be launched?

Now at GDP 17,521.......lordy, lordy

KTF

Baz

I wonder if FW will buy it then?

I might put a big bid on it just for a giggle even tho I cant afford it. I will stick to my shity copy on boot records

Is it just me or is it a bit weird auctioning a UK copy with the pic sleeve at the same time as the US original (check the auction site)???

Cheers

Richard

I bet that copy goes for silly price not as much as the real one but people will be caught up in Frank Wilson fever

I bet that copy goes for silly price not as much as the real one but I bet people will be caught up in Frank Wilson fever

I bet that copy goes for silly price not as much as the real one but people will be caught up in Frank Wilson fever

Thats the idea

P

As is says, the Frank Wilson copy with the promotional sleeve is the first Uk press Demo on TMG 1170 and so is collectable and reasonably rare in its own right for a Motown record.Normally now worth about £100 but will probably go for more.. A record like anything else is only worth what someone is prepared to pay for it. Prices can go up and down but it is definately the best time to sell it.Paul.

Is this the copy that was aledgedly 'lifted' from the Motown reference library , If it is, and does go for 50K or more do you think that claims of rightful ownwership will be launched?

No, it's Ron Murphy's old copy which Kenny had which was apparently originally purchased from the owner of the pressing plant. Tim Brown's copy is the one which was 'liberated' from the Motown library. However, I believe the statute of limitations has run out (6 years I believe) and it would difficult to launch any kind of action I believe since that copy has gone through so many owners over the years......

Ian D

would i be right in thinking that with 6 days to go , we , the public , won' be able to see the live auction ?

sorry just read the end bit where it states that the current price will be displayed on the homepage ...... still i'd like to see the live auction along with every other tune auctioned

Edited April 2, 200916 yr by dundeedavie

would i be right in thinking that with 6 days to go , we , the public , won' be able to see the live auction ?

sorry just read the end bit where it states that the current price will be displayed on the homepage ...... still i'd like to see the live auction along with every other tune auctioned

I'd do another edit and alter that to 26 days as well mate

I'd do another edit and alter that to 26 days as well mate

i'm sure it says with 6 days to go only previous bidders who register to continue to the final stage will be able to access a special area that includes the live auction

i'm sure it says with 6 days to go only previous bidders who register to continue to the final stage will be able to access a special area that includes the live auction

In a way this might be wise, can you imagine how many people will be logged on at the time the auction ends....

oops the madness must have started early, cannot even log on now...

how many do you want

scobie

surely some bright spark will print t shirts..." I BID ON FRANK WILSON"....... ...with label scan

My wife called me down from my office this morning @ 8 saying "hey Mark, John Manship's on the radio" - now, my wife has no idea who John actually is, all she knows about him is that she sometimes sees his name on emails in my inbox...John was on 6Music this morning talking about the FW auction - anybody else hear it? 'rarest record in the world' and 'most valuable record in the world' were both being bandied about...

Must be pretty big news if the Beeb are covering it? I wonder if Trevor McDoughnut will mention it as "the last item" on News At Ten on the day the auction ends...? "And finally, over to Melton Mowbray for a look into the strange world of Northern Soul record collecting..."

That's the general plan Mark.......

Ian D

Just imagine...

Someone attempts to show off and has a bid (with no intention of buying it), just so they can say they bid on it. What would happen to them if the ended up being the winning bidder? Would they have to complete the transaction? Does John Manships auctions differ from Ebay, is it legally binding?

PS I have no intention of bidding. My Tamla Motown copy is sufficient enough for me.

Don't know if it's legally binding, but according to the terms and conditions, you need to have a 2k credit. If you want to be in the final stage. If you win and fail to pay within 14 days, you'll be charged that 2k.

would i be right in thinking that with 6 days to go , we , the public , won' be able to see the live auction ?

sorry just read the end bit where it states that the current price will be displayed on the homepage ...... still i'd like to see the live auction along with every other tune auctioned

6 days before the auction's end, bidders will have a password to enter a private stage of the auction, where only they would be able to bid. Although, we mortals will be able to see the current price at any time.

Feel kinda weird. World crisis, poverty and unemployment and it's already at 17 521 GBP. The strange worlds of northern soul and capitalism

Cheers,

Dante

My wife called me down from my office this morning @ 8 saying "hey Mark, John Manship's on the radio" - now, my wife has no idea who John actually is, all she knows about him is that she sometimes sees his name on emails in my inbox...John was on 6Music this morning talking about the FW auction - anybody else hear it? 'rarest record in the world' and 'most valuable record in the world' were both being bandied about...

Must be pretty big news if the Beeb are covering it? I wonder if Trevor McDoughnut will mention it as "the last item" on News At Ten on the day the auction ends...? "And finally, over to Melton Mowbray for a look into the strange world of Northern Soul record collecting..."

With the amount of publicity this is generating outside the NS scene can we look forward to increased attendances at venues this summer, Wigan oldies going for record prices , Northern Soul is the new black?

And God help us........... A Cover Version

Great link!The TNJs record John is auctioning for me is the record before it!

Should help the single I am reluctantly selling get some attention.(The TNJs is incidentally a superb New Jersey double sider from the group who I think I read worked with Bunny Sigler)

If you can not afford Frank , maybe you could bid a few grand on that one!

cheers

francis t

Agreed Francis, that TNJ's is great. Found my copy in LA years ago, always rated it very highly. But they are a top group anyway - no duffers at all in their repertoire.

Wolfgang Vondoof is turning in his grave for not being able to have a go

He already had 2 x 25 count boxes of it direct from the recycling plant Barack & Michelle Obama are collecting them to take back to the White House to make "Cup Coasters" in the Oval office

M-M

He already had 2 x 25 count boxes of it direct from the recycling plant Barack & Michelle Obama are collecting them to take back to the White House to make "Cup Coasters" in the Oval office

M-M

Sorry to upset you Morgen, but it's now April 3rd!

Agreed Francis, that TNJ's is great. Found my copy in LA years ago, always rated it very highly. But they are a top group anyway - no duffers at all in their repertoire.

so you're a big fan of that lucky lou release too?

Don't know if it's legally binding, but according to the terms and conditions, you need to have a 2k credit. If you want to be in the final stage. If you win and fail to pay within 14 days, you'll be charged that 2k.

6 days before the auction's end, bidders will have a password to enter a private stage of the auction, where only they would be able to bid. Although, we mortals will be able to see the current price at any time.

Feel kinda weird. World crisis, poverty and unemployment and it's already at 17 521 GBP. The strange worlds of northern soul and capitalism

Cheers,

Dante

Will the auction rules apply as usual.?.Whereas after each bid near the end time , the auction is extended by 1 minute or so,to give the other bidders a chance to reconsider?.Or will it end on the dot.?