Impact Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 (edited) What is your rarest record you have got in your collection and approximate value? Edited September 1, 2011 by Butch Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Robbk Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 One of the NS collectors whose better records were known to the general NS community had his flat broken into and whole collection nicked. I suspect you won't get a lot of positive responses to this thread. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dazdakin Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Oh my, who please tell so we know what we may be on the lookout for.........the more people that know better the chance of some sort of recovery.......me thinks. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Popular Post John Reed Posted September 1, 2011 Popular Post Share Posted September 1, 2011 I'd rather have 1,000 great soul records as a pound each, than one crap record thats valued at £1,000 and I really do mean that. Sometimes there are very good reasons why a record is rare..... Also, this thread will just turn into a dick swinging contest. 8 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Rotherham Soul Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 I'd rather have 1,000 great soul records as a pound each, than one crap record thats valued at £1,000 and I really do mean that. Sometimes there are very good reasons why a record is rare..... Also, this thread will just turn into a dick swinging contest. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Impact Posted September 1, 2011 Author Share Posted September 1, 2011 I'd rather have 1,000 great soul records as a pound each, than one crap record thats valued at £1,000 and I really do mean that. Sometimes there are very good reasons why a record is rare..... Also, this thread will just turn into a dick swinging contest. I don't think it was going to turn into dick swinging contest By the way mine is Frank Wilson on original SOUL label Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 there are probably hundreds of 1-off records around, "rarest" doesn't mean that much. "most valuable" means more given established market values on some ultra-rarities Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve G Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 (edited) . Edited September 2, 2011 by Steve G Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve G Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Yup waste of time thread. Plenty of one offs / unknowns plus acetates, so they are all as rare as each other. Value is determined by demand not rarity alone. Some great unknown one offs sell relatively cheap and some relativelty common records sell for a lot. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest gordon russell Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Steve G always buys either the wrong tune by an artist or leaves his best ones at home you'd think he,d of learn,t by now lol :D Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I have not found it yet !! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve G Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Steve G always buys either the wrong tune by an artist or leaves his best ones at home you'd think he,d of learn,t by now lol :D Ha ha. Fair shout if you are talking about Barbara Hall on Tuska and Charlene & SouL Serenaders. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ged Parker Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I'd rather have 1,000 great soul records as a pound each, than one crap record thats valued at £1,000 and I really do mean that. Sometimes there are very good reasons why a record is rare..... Also, this thread will just turn into a dick swinging contest. To be honest I'd rather back myself in an actual dick swinging contest, more chance of being in the top 100,000. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Phild Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 (edited) I'd win in a Dick swinging contest. I'm 5' 11" I'm probably the biggest Dick on this forum Edited September 2, 2011 by phild 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Raresoul45s Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Thanks Phil I've just spat my tea all other the monitor. Great post. Darren Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mrtag Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Thanks Phil I've just spat my tea all other the monitor. Great post. Darren Good!! Does this mean there's a chance i might some clean records!! :lol: Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest geerox Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I have a rule when purchasing records and thats a £20 top limit unless it is something very special indeed, in fact I pride myself in finding many gems for under a quid, I used to spend hours in Good Vibrations in Belfast just sifting through masses of records and I never left unhappy. I recently went to my boys school fete and came away with 25 decent records for a fiver lol, I just dont see the point in paying really silly money for a piece of vinyl where lets face it will rarely get played if ever, its a bit like buying a picasso and locking it in a vault. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Brett F Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I'd rather tell you 'Butch', the best record in my collection...........I always value a record by how it sounds than ever, ever by how much it's worth................. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dazdakin Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Rarest i ever owned........i think?? was a Major Harris - Call Me Tomorrow.........hang on,hang on..........On Vinyl!! not styrene moulded on label - never heard of or seen another one like it. Biggest in terms of value i would say has to be Larry Clinton..........ok thats the dick swinging out of the way. As for my most treasured it would be The Imaginations - S - N'hood purely because it cost a fiver, sounded/sounds the bollox, and the label is pure art work. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest sharmo 1 Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 The KopKillas "Kill the rapists" on BlackKomunist records (very rare funk 12 inch) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mike Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 offtopic posts moved to ask carry on that discussion via that thread thanks Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest giant Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I'd win in a Dick swinging contest. I'm 5' 11" I'm probably the biggest Dick on this forum is your real name king dong Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Cheltsoulnights Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 I don't think it was going to turn into dick swinging contest By the way mine is Frank Wilson on original SOUL label Was this topic raised to announce this? Mines the Dynamic Deadbeats No second chance. Twice as rare as Frank Wilson as only one copy known :) :) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
snooky Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 Hi pete this aint that rare is it????????Dynamic Deadbeats No second chance loads on popsike been for sale? snooky Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Swifty Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 Mines Dynamic Wilson !!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Cheltsoulnights Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 Hi pete this aint that rare is it????????Dynamic Deadbeats No second chance loads on popsike been for sale? snooky dynamic deadbeats not deadbeats. the strata ones are second issues Steve Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Impact Posted September 4, 2011 Author Share Posted September 4, 2011 Was this topic raised to announce this? Mines the Dynamic Deadbeats No second chance. Twice as rare as Frank Wilson as only one copy known :) :) No, I was only messing. I wish :-) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest garysoul82 Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 there are probably hundreds of 1-off records around, "rarest" doesn't mean that much. "most valuable" means more given established market values on some ultra-rarities I totally agree.Just click on manships rarest of the rare.Most of them are rare because they are AWFUL. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
KevH Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 I totally agree.Just click on manships rarest of the rare.Most of them are rare because they are AWFUL. Care to expand? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 I totally agree.Just click on manships rarest of the rare.Most of them are rare because they are AWFUL. Most? Me thinks you rate exaggerating a tad? Many of the great classics in there and post Wigan greats. Granted not all rare records are good, just the same not all cheap records are good either. It's simply the fact that some are expensive and crap that they get highlighted whilst cheap crap records are simply ignored. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Carl Dixon Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 I have the very first test Pressing of Spyder Turners 'Tell me (crying over you)' on Bandtraxs Records! The test pressings in circulation at present are not the first test pressings made by Archers.They had a 'B' side problem that nobody knows about. The record had to be re done and a second batch of test pressings made. To me, the first test pressings are priceless because I know how many were pressed, when and where. I know who cut the track to vinyl in Memphis, and the story behind the evolution of the song from writing it, getting it recorded stateside, releasing digitally first,then first and second test pressing to the 500 pressed articles, shipped and sold from the UK. I know this piece of the jig saw is a little unorthodox, but you said vinyl! I therefore am proposing to sell one of these Spyder Turner test pressings for £20,000 on eBay at some stage. As is, buyer takes the risk of whatever is on the B side! The A side is fine, but the B, well it could be nothing, something not related to the release, something you could only imagine in your dreams, or even the A side backwards or indeed something else! The purchaser will get that surprise plus a copy of a proper 45 for his or her collection. If the purchaser can prove they are a Soul-Source member I may offer a little discount! And, if this sale was to go ahead, I would take £5000 of that money and pay an extended bonus to the musicians and featured artists stateside who performed on this session and make a donation to the Detroit musicians union. The other £15000, would help me go over again and record 4 more songs. This time though, I would love to find Pistol Allen's daughter and see if she is still playing the trombone and get her on the session! There I go, dreaming again....well actually, I know they come true! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 The rarest records are the ones you dont pay a lot for lol Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
NEV Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 I totally agree.Just click on manships rarest of the rare.Most of them are rare because they are AWFUL. Only if your not into soul P.s Amazing how someone starts a thread about "whats the rarest record in your collection" that it ends up being a topic about how crap rare records all are Once over this forum used to be a rare soul forum for people into rare soul .....now it seems to be full of internet warriors writing utter dross and firing insults at one another Just my opinion but if your gonna start a topic ..please try and be a bit more imaginative ....then again if your looking for a bit of a t'internet dust up keep it controversial 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
dthedrug Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 HI ALL Apart from rare UK DEMOS & ISSUES The rarest is the 12inch MICHEAL JACKSON 1982 DMC MIX EPIC UNUSUAL "YOU BEEN CHEATIN" INST & "THE NIGHT" INST ??? DAVE Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Denbo Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 The rarest records are the ones you dont pay a lot for lol No! The rarest records haven't been found yet. :lol: Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest AndyL Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 I'd rather have 1,000 great soul records as a pound each, than one crap record thats valued at £1,000 and I really do mean that. Sometimes there are very good reasons why a record is rare..... Also, this thread will just turn into a dick swinging contest. I totally agree !!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve G Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 (edited) Look the northern scene has since the early 70s been about rare records, and having something others don't have. Do some of you not realise when Ian Levine, Colin Curtis, Dicky S, Ian Dewhirst, Poke etc were playing their new discoveries back in "the good old days" they weren't "rare" records? Of course they were, until someone found further copies. Virtually all of the stuff we take for granted today started life as rare records. Some of you need to get over this inverse snobbishness ffs. Edited September 9, 2011 by Steve G Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve G Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 (edited) . Edited September 9, 2011 by Steve G Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve G Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 (edited) Duplicate post. Edited September 9, 2011 by Steve G Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mike Lofthouse Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Look the northern scene has since the early 70s been about rare records, and having something others don't have. Do some of you not realise when Ian Levine, Colin Curtis, Dicky S, Ian Dewhirst, Poke etc were playing their new discoveries back in "the good old days" they weren't "rare" records? Of course they were, until someone found further copies. Virtually all of the stuff we take for granted today started life as rare records. Some of you need to get over this inverse snobbishness ffs. I think they do realise that the northern scene is/was about are records (frequently not mind!) Steve. However, what John and the others also realise is that after all these years they are more interested in quality over rarity and as such you can purchase many wonderful records (for their listening pleasure) for the price of a big ticket item (which might also be wonderful) . And lets be honest that is the point about records - listening pleasure - they are not things to look at and talk about having/had/played out/sold in some sort of pi**ing contest which is sadly often the case these days IMHO of course .. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve G Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Well I agree Mike that there are those that are just trying to get what I once termed "Trophy records" for the "playbox". The likes of Don Gardner, Salvadores, Eddie Parker, Tomangoes etc. But some seem to think if a record is more than a fiver it ain't no good. Steve Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Geeselad Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Well I agree Mike that there are those that are just trying to get what I once termed "Trophy records" for the "playbox". The likes of Don Gardner, Salvadores, Eddie Parker, Tomangoes etc. But some seem to think if a record is more than a fiver it ain't no good. Steve All of the above are now more hammered than some of the more common oldies, form the wheel and torch era. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soulsmith Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 A mate of mine had a one off tape by Womack & Womack, that they left in their rental car. But he has lost the tape. Doesn't get any rarer than that. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 However, what John and the others also realise is that after all these years they are more interested in quality over rarity and as such you can purchase many wonderful records (for their listening pleasure) for the price of a big ticket item (which might also be wonderful) . And lets be honest that is the point about records - listening pleasure - they are not things to look at and talk about having/had/played out/sold in some sort of pi**ing contest which is sadly often the case these days IMHO of course .. You can buy many wonderful cheap records to Dj with for the price of one trophy record. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tomangoes Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 Look the northern scene has since the early 70s been about rare records, and having something others don't have. Do some of you not realise when Ian Levine, Colin Curtis, Dicky S, Ian Dewhirst, Poke etc were playing their new discoveries back in "the good old days" they weren't "rare" records? Of course they were, until someone found further copies. Virtually all of the stuff we take for granted today started life as rare records. Some of you need to get over this inverse snobbishness ffs. And the rest..................... Best and rarest original Keks, shirt, coit, shoes.............dance, it was all about being the top of the pile and that included shit rare records. Its an elitist scene. The DJs had the crowd in the palm of their hands when playing records only they had. Who would not get off on that kind of oneupmanship? Of course it gets out of hand, and just because theres only one known copy of Tim Tam on Swedish Palmer does not make it a great record, but on the other hand who would not like an Eddie Parker/Tomangoes/Gwen Owens in the box? Why do you think the debate goes on and on about playing cd/mp3 tracks instead of original vinyl? Nobody wants what everybody can have!! Rariety is a VIRTUE. Ed Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mike Lofthouse Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 And the rest..................... Best and rarest original Keks, shirt, coit, shoes.............dance, it was all about being the top of the pile and that included shit rare records. Its an elitist scene. The DJs had the crowd in the palm of their hands when playing records only they had. Who would not get off on that kind of oneupmanship? Of course it gets out of hand, and just because theres only one known copy of Tim Tam on Swedish Palmer does not make it a great record, but on the other hand who would not like an Eddie Parker/Tomangoes/Gwen Owens in the box? Why do you think the debate goes on and on about playing cd/mp3 tracks instead of original vinyl? Nobody wants what everybody can have!! Rariety is a VIRTUE. Ed But that was then and this is now...grown men are not impressed by DJ's - they love their Soul music - all their life in most cases - their tastes have changed and have been refined over the years , rarity is not a virtue, Quality is! The label, studio, producer, singer, writers, musicians all contribute to the quality - rarity does not! You can love a rare record because it is good (and I certainly do) but not because it it rare! How can you like 'rare' soul per se? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Geordiejohnson Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 (edited) Collecting is a hobby and a fun thing lets not get too down on the rare records are crap etc debate, i just think there are crap records about whatever the price...but again thats a matter of taste for the individual... The desire to own a rare record consumes everyman/collector...then once you get your hands on it it goes in the box and gathers dust, , how many times have i sweated over a purchase then realised the dream and shat myself silly until the postie arrives package opened ...hurrah its in good order and ..now ive moved on to the next one, i suppose thats part of the thrill and to get a bit of a woodie if you do get a chance to play it out and about, and if a few admiring glances and comments come your way its a bonus, albeit many would, in discussions about said record, shave a quarter of the pounds paid, off the purchase price just to let everyone know they had bagged a bargain ...oh cum on weve all been there and love it even if its a bit of a boasting thing. Ive bought and sold up 3 times mainly due to financial constraints brought about by buying records im having fun but its nice to see the passion pouring over on this debate...again and again I must admit with the last post though i have grown up a bit now and love getting thick into a records production, arrangement , vocal talent etc, and i dont seem to have a specific type of soul i like anymore, one time it was out and out northern now, its what floats the (getting very old) boat. Geeooooordie Edited September 10, 2011 by geordiejohnson Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Koolkat Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 Collecting is a hobby and a fun thing lets not get too down on the rare records are crap etc debate, i just think there are crap records about whatever the price...but again thats a matter of taste for the individual... The desire to own a rare record consumes everyman/collector...then once you get your hands on it it goes in the box and gathers dust, , how many times have i sweated over a purchase then realised the dream and shat myself silly until the postie arrives package opened ...hurrah its in good order and ..now ive moved on to the next one, i suppose thats part of the thrill and to get a bit of a woodie if you do get a chance to play it out and a few admiring glances and comments come your way its a bonus, albeit many would, in discussions about said record shave a quarter of the pounds off the purchase price just to let know they had bagged a bargain ...oh cum on weve all been there and love it even if its a bit of a boasting thing. Ive bought and sold up 3 times mainly due to financial constraints brought about by buying records im having fun but its nice to see the passion pouring over on this debate...again and again I must admit with the last post though i have grown up a bit now and love getting thick into a records production, arrangement , vocal talent etc, and i dont seem to have a specific type of soul i like anymore, one time it was out and out northern now, its what floats the (getting very old) boat. Geeooooordie Nice readable post. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ernie Andrews Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 My fav/ Best happens to be my rarest cos Ive only got one copy Ha ha! Actually its - Cold Smoke - Dont fall in love on DWP records. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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