Guest mickeyfish58 Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Do they do 12" are thinking of wearing one over your head dave? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mike Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 are thinking of wearing one over your head dave? can we try and keep the offtopic banter down a bit especially when its regarding past posts as reckon anyone clicking on this thread and getting the above will be scratching their heads thanks mike Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
JOE TORQUAY Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 This shite aint around much to my eyes thank fook... I remember at Prestatyn weekenders, this tack was growing by the year like an out of control river of shite... Also popping up in more and more adverts on the net... Remember that t-shirt company who had the same name as my club night , people were contacting me for t shirts saying " i'm Mod for it", " johnsons talc, its a soul thing " :lol: .. Not sure if its around many other weekenders or soul events????/ i never see it.. I AGREE, HARDLY ANYONE SELLING T-SHIRTS ETC, AND LOADS OF PEOPLE SELLING RECORDS, THE LAST ONE WAS THE COMPLETE OPPOSITE, WERE THEY CHARGING TOO MUCH FOR TABLES OR PEOPLE JUST NOT BUYING RECORDS ANYMORE ???. JOE. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Byrney Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 (edited) what sad lives some of you have , sometimes wonder how some folk manage to get through life constantly dissing what other people do when it has no bearing on their own inadeuate existance . real deal nighters ffs Keeping it simple, real deal = venue playing new discoveries, underplayed, selected oldies; looking forward not backwards; clubs like lifeline, new century, 100 club etc as opposed to DJs playing boots, playlist of the same 100 records, wrapped in the nostalgia, fancy dress, stalls selling 'keep the faith' tee cosies etc. As for your other comments not really worth a response other than grow up you daft old tart Edited July 15, 2012 by Byrney Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
coops Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 no-one is compelled to buy or even look at whatever is for sale , irrespective of the merits of the items on offer, seems like just another pop at people who want to make money out of the scene , 'exploit? 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tezza Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Is it not the responsibility of the Punters. As Coops said a little earlier, if we didn't buy it then it would not be economically viable for the Vendors to attend with their Merchandise. We ourselves ( or you yourselves ) are just perpetuating it by pandering to their whims. Ignore them and walk past, unless its someones Birthday and that card looks good, isn't that a picture of their fav record ?? We have all been there. If it offends your eyes then don't look They don't force it into your hand. !! Like the idea of the Brid Boys, a seperate area so if you want something you have to visit them. 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
coops Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Like the idea of the Brid Boys, a seperate area so if you want something you have to visit them. got a separate area in skegness, it's called the high street!!! 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
barney Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 'exploit? an emotive word , but could apply to many aspects within the scene , promoters who put another quid or two on the door tariff , dealers (of records) who bump up the price of the latest in-demand record... dj,s who get paid substantial amounts for 1 hours work and arrive 15 minutes before they are due on and then go on to play tunes that have been played previously on the night , 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest sharmo 1 Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 I've reached a bit of a stumbling block here as I was having some nice tasteful tshirts made they were going to be screen printed and ltd to ten each with frankford/wayne , bell sound , A1 Studio sound and virtue to start off with.They wouldn't have been cheap but they would have lasted but I tried to contact the relevent studios to get permission and never heared anything back so if I'd have gone ahead with these without permission what reflection and regard would this have had ? regards Simon. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
barney Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 I've reached a bit of a stumbling block here as I was having some nice tasteful tshirts made they were going to be screen printed and ltd to ten each with frankford/wayne , bell sound , A1 Studio sound and virtue to start off with.They wouldn't have been cheap but they would have lasted but I tried to contact the relevent studios to get permission and never heared anything back so if I'd have gone ahead with these without permission what reflection and regard would this have had ? regards Simon. dont beat yourself up on this dont think the said studios are going to go after you if you do have them printed , especially if you have shown a willingness to do it legit , after all its free adverts for them , there a member of the forum staff on here whose avatar is copy writed by a certain dai bradley 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 dont beat yourself up on this dont think the said studios are going to go after you if you do have them printed , especially if you have shown a willingness to do it legit , after all its free adverts for them , there a member of the forum staff on here whose avatar is copy writed by a certain dai bradley Kes? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Kes? Yep that'll be me, dunno why he has to be so coy by just using forum staff, doesn't bother me if he uses my name. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
barney Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Kes? yep had the billy sticker on mi scoot and Mr Bradley saw it parked up in town and he waited for me and told me that he owned the copy write for that pic , anyway I told him where to go and left , subsequentley found out that he does own the copywrite ,a local menswear shop Frank Birds does a range of t shirts with the logo under licence ffs 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
barney Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Yep that'll be me, dunno why he has to be so coy by just using forum staff, doesn't bother me if he uses my name. am not coy just dont want to cause embarresment lol Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 am not coy just dont want to cause embarresment lol It would take more than that to embarrass me. I'm hardly bootlegging it for profit or even trade on so not quite what we are discussing here is it? If Mr Bradley has a problem I'm sure he will be in touch. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Winnie :-) Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 am not coy just dont want to cause embarresment lol Let's hope Hanna Barbera doesn't read soul source 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 I should think most photos used on here are copyrighted anyway? 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Amsterdam Russ Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 I've reached a bit of a stumbling block here as I was having some nice tasteful tshirts made they were going to be screen printed and ltd to ten each with frankford/wayne , bell sound , A1 Studio sound and virtue to start off with.They wouldn't have been cheap but they would have lasted but I tried to contact the relevent studios to get permission and never heared anything back so if I'd have gone ahead with these without permission what reflection and regard would this have had ? regards Simon. If you were to turn the scans into 'works of art', ie, do something original with respect to how they were presented, but do it in an artist/creative way, then it is highly unlikely that you would be in breach of copyright and so would not run the risk of being sued. If you were sufficiently creative, you would then have something artistically unique that in turn would be automatically protected by copyright law as what you had made could be considered to be a derivative work. Here's a passage from a Wikipedia page about derivatives and copyright... For copyright protection to attach to a later, allegedly derivative work, it must display some originality of its own. It cannot be a rote, uncreative variation on the earlier, underlying work. The latter work must contain sufficient new expression, over and above that embodied in the earlier work for the latter work to satisfy copyright law's requirement of originality. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derivative_work Do have a read. I hope you find it enlightening... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
barney Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Let's hope Hanna Barbera doesn't read soul source ok fred was just using you has an example of copywrite infringement, its as you say chalky ,of no consequence for the most part Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Naughty Boy Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 (edited) I should think most photos used on here are copyrighted anyway? I would have thought so by default the photographers in most cases Edited July 17, 2012 by Naughty Boy Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
barney Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 copyright ffs Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Amsterdam Russ Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Oh, it is exceptionally unlikely that any copyright owner would waste their time suing anyone on a forum, or elsewhere in the internet, because they'd used a protected image in or as an avatar. The context in which copyright infringement takes places is the guiding force behind nearly all judgely decisions. One of the prime motivating factors for a copyright owner suing is loss of earnings - or the earnings that the infringer is making through the illegal use of the copyrighted work. As no one here is using an avatar image for commercial gain, there would be no point (and nothing to gain) in suing. It just wouldn't be worth the effort. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 All images and works are copyrighted and where possible permission sought to use. I would have thought so by default the photographers in most cases As far as I'm aware Rob copyright is attached as soon as the photo is taken, or any other work laid down by whatever method. Neither do you need to register it, just prove it is yours. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest sharmo 1 Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 If you were to turn the scans into 'works of art', ie, do something original with respect to how they were presented, but do it in an artist/creative way, then it is highly unlikely that you would be in breach of copyright and so would not run the risk of being sued. If you were sufficiently creative, you would then have something artistically unique that in turn would be automatically protected by copyright law as what you had made could be considered to be a derivative work. Here's a passage from a Wikipedia page about derivatives and copyright... Source: https://en.wikipedia...Derivative_work Do have a read. I hope you find it enlightening... Thank you . Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
coops Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 dont beat yourself up on this dont think the said studios are going to go after you if you do have them printed , especially if you have shown a willingness to do it legit , after all its free adverts for them , there a member of the forum staff on here whose avatar is copy writed by a certain dai bradley as is yours by Hannah Barbara i think? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dylan Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 I've reached a bit of a stumbling block here as I was having some nice tasteful tshirts made they were going to be screen printed and ltd to ten each with frankford/wayne , bell sound , A1 Studio sound and virtue to start off with.They wouldn't have been cheap but they would have lasted but I tried to contact the relevent studios to get permission and never heared anything back so if I'd have gone ahead with these without permission what reflection and regard would this have had ? regards Simon. although i've said on here that the merchandise at soul venues is tacky (records not included) and unnecessary I might actually wear a record label or studio t-shirt. These are actually a bit different IMO. I've thouhgt about having the man from the quinvy logo on a t-shirt as an example or the elephant from tuska. Something another soul fan out and about may recognise without being to tacky. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
barney Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 keep up coops we have been down that road ffs 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Harrythedog Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 If i ever went to a venue with merchandice for sale, i would blame no one but myself for getting it so wrong, and not doing the home work as to what type of night this was going to be. Were supposed to be an underground scene for gods sake, remember when it was all so cool to go to a Northern night, what a joke weve become. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
barney Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 (edited) although i've said on here that the merchandise at soul venues is tacky (records not included) and unnecessary I might actually wear a record label or studio t-shirt. These are actually a bit different IMO. I've thouhgt about having the man from the quinvy logo on a t-shirt as an example or the elephant from tuska. Something another soul fan out and about may recognise without being to tacky. dont encourage the T SHIRT POLICE Edited July 17, 2012 by barney 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Geeselad Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 no-one is compelled to buy or even look at whatever is for sale , irrespective of the merits of the items on offer, seems like just another pop at people who want to make money out of the scene , It certainly is on my part, the comercialisation of a once underground scene deserves to mocked. Its all a load of garbage, generally the people who buy it aint got a clue, go make money somewhere else. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
barney Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 It certainly is on my part, the comercialisation of a once underground scene deserves to mocked. Its all a load of garbage, generally the people who buy it aint got a clue, go make money somewhere else. thats just it tho , it aint no longer an underground scene , its matured its moved on , most of the participants are 50 plus . theres w/enders soul weeks abroad and so forth , its the new bingo ffs 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete Eccles Posted July 17, 2012 Author Share Posted July 17, 2012 , its the new bingo That was my signature on here a couple of years back 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Geeselad Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 thats just it tho , it aint no longer an underground scene , its matured its moved on , most of the participants are 50 plus . theres w/enders soul weeks abroad and so forth , its the new bingo ffs certainly a fair portion of it is as you described, the new bingo, I dont know about matured, regressed more like, to its most comercial phase in the mid 70's perhaps. It doesnt mean that we have to accept it though, I'm sure there were plenty pissed with it then, like I and others are now. I think really the problems come when its intrusive, in a lobby or foyer area around the entrance to a weekender is reasonable but inside a room where people are tring to dance and enjoy an atmoshere its totally inappropriate for me. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ric-tic Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 ive seen some tat but look at this https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NORTHERN-SOUL-VINYL-RECORD-THREE-TIER-CAKE-STAND-Rock-Pop-Retro-Vintage-Funky-/170877588263?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D921250347205952606%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D2%26 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest GARV Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 ive seen some tat but look at this https://www.ebay.co.u...&prg=1011&rk=2 Who buys this sh*te? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jordirip Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 ive seen some tat but look at this https://www.ebay.co.u...&prg=1011&rk=2 What a cracking idea, bound to make millions. Pity you wont see f@ck all of the records when the cake is on, or even after it's been sliced up and handed out with all the gunk left on the records. Jesus H, why don't they just have a northern soul car boot sale and have done with it. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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