Northern Soul Uk Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 This is actually for a friend. Someone he knows is selling an "acetate" of John & The Wierdest - NO TIME / CAN’T GET OVER THESE MEMORIES. Did the 2 come out on an actual release? or are the chances that this is a boot ot EMIdisc? Thank you Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 They were issued on Tie but as for an acetate, could be but could very well be an emidisc. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Derek Pearson Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 (edited) The flip side "No Time" is equally incredible especially so when ya haven't heard it in decades. Turned down a copy for £90 many years ago - oh well. Derek Edited May 3, 2015 by Derek Pearson Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jazz Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Got a emidisc from rob smiths years ago two great tracks Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dean Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 There's a boot on Tie too , always has the date stamp on I think as that's the label it was copied from. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 The first boot which was very good boot, only half dozen had the date stamp, a mate did them. There is a later look a like too. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Winsford Soul Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 The flip side "No Time" is equally incredible especially so when ya haven't heard it in decades. Turned down a copy for £90 many years ago - oh well. Derek Ditto . forgotten how classy this is. Thanks for posting. Steve Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Theothertosspot Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 (edited) As far as I am aware (not telling but enquiring) are the first boots exact copies, but when held up to the light the vinyl is grey and transparent), whereas the later boots have smaller text. ATB Bob Edited May 3, 2015 by theothertosspot Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
KevH Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 As far as I am aware (not telling but enquiring) are the first boots exact copies, but when held up to the light the vinyl is grey and transparent), whereas the later boots have smaller text. ATB Bob. Brownish vinyl ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
KevH Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 As far as I am aware (not telling but enquiring) are the first boots exact copies, but when held up to the light the vinyl is grey and transparent), whereas the later boots have smaller text. ATB Bob. Brownish vinyl ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soul-slider Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 As far as I am aware (not telling but enquiring) are the first boots exact copies, but when held up to the light the vinyl is grey and transparent), whereas the later boots have smaller text. ATB Bob That is what I always thought/heard. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Theothertosspot Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 (edited) That is what I always thought/heard. Then it's Unanimous and we've won Edited May 3, 2015 by theothertosspot 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Gogs Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 The first boot which was very good boot, only half dozen had the date stamp, a mate did them. There is a later look a like too. Seen a lot more than half a dozen boots with the date stamp on, did the later boot also put the date stamp on? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Patto Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 (edited) As far as I am aware (not telling but enquiring) are the first boots exact copies, but when held up to the light the vinyl is grey and transparent), whereas the later boots have smaller text. ATB Bob[/quote Exactly right mate .I used to have one of these boots and if you hold it up to a light bulb you can see the light through the vinyl clearly and it takes on a brownish tone.These are all known well documented facts and im sure its been well covered on previous threads Edited May 4, 2015 by Patto Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Seen a lot more than half a dozen boots with the date stamp on, did the later boot also put the date stamp on? Yes Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Philt Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Those first boots have fetched daft money in recent years haven't they? No Time one of the best records ive ever heard. Could do with being a bit longer though 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
KevH Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 (edited) that's what said earlier Patto. Edited May 4, 2015 by KevH Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Spot on Kev, see through brown vinyl for the first boot. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Those first boots have fetched daft money in recent years haven't they? No Time one of the best records ive ever heard. Could do with being a bit longer though Far better than the "Can`t" side and as atmospheric as it gets! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 (edited) Spot on Kev, see through brown vinyl for the first boot. Original has the brown vinyl Chalks!....there were quite a few who paid top dollar at the time as the boots were perfect facsimiles. Edited May 4, 2015 by Guest Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Original has the brown vinyl Chalks!....there were quite a few who paid top dollar at the time as the boots were perfect facsimiles. I thought the original was solid black? The boot I had late 80's/early 90's was brown see through with the date stamp. I know the dealer who paid top dollar and who sold them to him lol, he gave him the money back though 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 I have it in my head that the original was brown vinyl but after 40 odd (sometimes very odd ) years you may be right Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 The first boot is black vinyl but when held to the light it becomes a reddy brown colour. The second one has a different typeface and is datestamped and I think is still being reproduced now. On the first boot you can hear where the original dubbing starts. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Gogs Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Always knew that it was a hard one to tell. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Prophonics 2029 Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 But then the brown/black boot also plays with pops and clicks from thr bootleggins. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Robbk Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Here's my original. I think I got it from John Hillyard in 1969 or 1970. It has Delta numbers 68365 and 68366, which reflect the last week of September 1967, with Nov 17, 1967 (1 and a half months later) stamped on the label (date of distribution?): It has black plastic. 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ted Massey Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 the originals have a proper machine stamp, the boots had the circle scratched in Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
El Corol Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Slightly at a tangent but wasn't this covered up as Spyder Turner, I seem to remember Chris Plant introducing it as that? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Slightly at a tangent but wasn't this covered up as Spyder Turner, I seem to remember Chris Plant introducing it as that? "Spyder Turner & The Webs" 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Northern Soul Uk Posted May 5, 2015 Author Share Posted May 5, 2015 Slightly at a tangent but wasn't this covered up as Spyder Turner, I seem to remember Chris Plant introducing it as that? YES!! Apparently the one in question has Spyder Turner on the label. I wonder if this is the original one then. He says it is definitely metal too. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Trev Thomas Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 (edited) YES!! Apparently the one in question has Spyder Turner on the label. I wonder if this is the original one then. He says it is definitely metal too. the original one was played and covered up by richard searling on the original tie label , your mates got one of the many emi discs that were floating about Edited May 5, 2015 by trev thomas Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Billywhizz Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 I thought the original was solid black? The boot I had late 80's/early 90's was brown see through with the date stamp. I know the dealer who paid top dollar and who sold them to him lol, he gave him the money back though they are chalky, check my copy with s sam,solid black, 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 YES!! Apparently the one in question has Spyder Turner on the label. I wonder if this is the original one then. He says it is definitely metal too. And it probably says made in england on it as well. It wouldn't say Spyder Turner on it if original studio acetate either. If you'd given the full info to begin with you'd have your answer straight away. As Trev said it is a boot/emidisc someone has had knocked up. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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