Barry Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 (edited) Loose conversational topic, I don't want an argument about what is and isn't 'soul' - just tracks that wouldn't fit the norm for a 'soul track' per se. The Anderson Brothers - I Can See Him Loving You Edited February 9, 2013 by Barry Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Andyj Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Beverly Ann - You've got you're mind on other things. C&W meets NS. Still love the track though! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ian Parker Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 I walked away When we get there My hearts symphony I'll hold you Where can we go Anything by bobby Goldsboro. I thought of those in seconds,there must be hundreds . I see a long debate Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Barry Posted February 10, 2013 Author Share Posted February 10, 2013 Thought it'd be nice to see what we're left with. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Shinehead Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Elusive Babe Ruth, nowhere near soul but i still love it . Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Barry Posted February 10, 2013 Author Share Posted February 10, 2013 Jo Ann Garrett - Whole New Plan Joey Heatheron - When You Call Me Baby Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest tommymac Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 jay and the americans, got hung up along the way. and livin above your head. love them both but more garage dancsr than soul Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Zed1 Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 (edited) Always loved 'Lips to your Heart - The Nightwatch' (covered as The Ellingtons IIRC). Massive at Station Rd but now considered just another Crap white pop record for the Wigan dance crowd....... apparently!. Edited February 10, 2013 by Zed1 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Andyj Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Val Mckenna - Love Feeling, loved it years ago but listened to it recently and thought pop record that fitted in with the 'Wigan Sound' 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
TOAD Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 ah but wigan was not the only venue playing pop ! And some djs didnt ! 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Diddy Morgan Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 on my 1st visit to the casino bryan highland the joker went wild was played twice !! september 78 , got to be the worst thing played there 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Popular Post Garethx Posted February 10, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted February 10, 2013 I'm sure JoAnn Garrett would be surprised to learn that she's a 'non-soul' artist. Her voice may be a bit sweet for some but she was among the finest gospel sopranos of her age. 45s like "One Woman" on Duo are certainly soul to treasure. "Whole New Plan" is a soul record in every concrete sense of the term. I know it doesn't necessarily follow that each record by a black artist is a soul record, but it happens to be true in that case. There should also be a distinction with records by white artists when the intention was to make record for a 'soul' audience. There is often a gulf in meaning between a pop record with the right beat on one hand and blue eyed soul on the other. Bobby Paris' Capitol 45 was a genuine attempt at blue eyed soul, as was Frankie & Johnnie, and whether you love or loathe either record you'd have to say they both did what they set out to do. 12 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Barry Posted February 10, 2013 Author Share Posted February 10, 2013 Fair do's 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest micksoul Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Keep on keepin on by NF Porter is almost a rock track with that moody guitar riff and psychedelic sound affects , still love it tho Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Groundhog Day Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Thfcliam Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Val Mckenna - Love Feeling, loved it years ago but listened to it recently and thought pop record that fitted in with the 'Wigan Sound' awful Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
The Tempest Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Theothertosspot Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Love em to bits as I consider them to be great to dance to, but far removed from soul methinks Case of Tyme - Manifesto Shakers - One Wonderful Moment Regards Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Cunnie Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 How about the Cate Bros - Where Can We Go. Was even covered up as the Anderson Bros as mentioned in the original post. Was once told that they were (hate this term) Blue Eyed Soul boys but the title of their biggest selling album kinda gave it away - Crazy Cajun. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chatty Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 The Pallbearers, Music with Soul, They should have been done under the trades description's. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest MrC Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 EastCoast Connection - Summer in the park - Brilliant, but not exactly Soul. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 EastCoast Connection - Summer in the park - Brilliant, but not exactly Soul. That's right, it's pure country and western... 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest MrC Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 That's right, it's pure country and western... How can you tell there's BOTH types of music among that raucous 100mph jumble of percussion?! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Gogse Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 https://youtu.be/cgUql7E7S-k Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Glynn Jones Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Love it but always thought Rose Batiste - Hit and Run was "a bit C&W". Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jaco Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Groundhog Day Who's that by then? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Who's that by then? You asked for it! Love the comment below the video "This is the kind of sh*t you listen to when you are hacking up your family." Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Phoenix8049 Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 April Stevens - Wanting You Village Sounds - These Windows Barry St John - Everything I Touch Turns To Tears All good records,but i would hardly call them soul. Stu Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tezza Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Cats Eyes - Life Dark and Moody Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest MrC Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Theme from Coloured Man - Teddy Vann Orch Theme From the fantastic plastic machine - harold betts Theme from Police Story - pat williams Probably anything with 'theme' in the title... stop girl - 7 dwarfs Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Geeselad Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Al foster band- night of the wolf Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Northernjordan Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 A good none soul song (well to me its more rock than soul) Mr Floods Party - Compared to What The terrible, A Touch of Velvet, A Sting of Bass Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Wiggyflat Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Pop novelty latin records Never Learnt To Dance Harvey Averne,Sugar-Isonics,Use It Before You Lose It,Hey Sister etc etc. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Theme from Coloured Man - Teddy Vann Orch Theme From the fantastic plastic machine - harold betts Theme from Police Story - pat williams Probably anything with 'theme' in the title... stop girl - 7 dwarfs Theme from Simon Locke Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Theothertosspot Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Love it but always thought Rose Batiste - Hit and Run was "a bit C&W". Not sure about that, but Tamiko Jones - Spellbound certainly is (IMO). Regards Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Kev John Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 FOOTSEE nuff said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Polyvelts Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 on my 1st visit to the casino bryan highland the joker went wild was played twice !! september 78 , got to be the worst thing played there One of the worst !! Ever !!!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Back Street Blue Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 (edited) pd Edited February 11, 2013 by back street blue Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Garethx Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Theme from Simon Locke Locke's Theme rules. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
SHEFFSOUL Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Keep on keepin on by NF Porter is almost a rock track with that moody guitar riff and psychedelic sound affects , still love it tho ????..rock track..never in a million years.. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
SHEFFSOUL Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 fathers angels..bok to back.....love it! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest MrC Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Theme from Simon Locke You mean "BOLT" Locke's Theme rules. Yes it does. I was wrong when I said 'just about anything with the word 'Theme'in the title a few posts ago, what I should have said, judging on the later posts, was, "just about any instrumental"! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Locke's Theme rules. It bloomin' well does Gareth, well said! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Garethx Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 I don't know why "Locke" wasn't bigger than it ever was. It's a hundred times better than "Cochise" for example and it was a genuine TV show theme rather than a hypothetical or made up one. While it's not a soul record it does have black music at its heart (the bass playing, the piano etc. all have their roots in soul-jazz) and would have been played by seasoned jazz session musicians. That's the point of a lot of these instrumental things: they are broadly based on black music and are at least soul-influenced. An instrumental I've always really liked which probably has no links whatsoever to black music is "Forest Fire On Main Street" by Gasoline Powered Clock, which is pretty much a straight ahead Surf meets Texas Garage 45. The bloke behind the record, Norm Miller, had a later album on White Whale which features brilliant songwriting and arrangements. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 I don't know why "Locke" wasn't bigger than it ever was. It's a hundred times better than "Cochise" for example and it was a genuine TV show theme rather than a hypothetical or made up one. While it's not a soul record it does have black music at its heart (the bass playing, the piano etc. all have their roots in soul-jazz) and would have been played by seasoned jazz session musicians. That's the point of a lot of these instrumental things: they are broadly based on black music and are at least soul-influenced. An instrumental I've always really liked which probably has no links whatsoever to black music is "Forest Fire On Main Street" by Gasoline Powered Clock, which is pretty much a straight ahead Surf meets Texas Garage 45. The bloke behind the record, Norm Miller, had a later album on White Whale which features brilliant songwriting and arrangements. It was a hard record to find Gareth, nearly all copies were doubles sided demos of the A side "Score", in fact I don't think I had one for 30 years until someone found a small batch of unsold store stock about 6 years back and I bought 3 copies, one of which I still have. I have one recorded spin of it at Wigan (11/3/78) by Russ and I think it was played locally round our way, otherwise it's been deleted from the history books (it only made the Manship guide with this latest edition). Me and Mr. C used to love it at the time though. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Garethx Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Interesting info Pete. Agreed it's a tough one to track down. Following on from my Gasoline Powered Clock comment, what about another record I assume was also a Gary Rushbrooke spin: The Other Ones on Knoll. Vocally and lyrically about as far away as you can get from street level ghetto soul, yet a minor Northern classic. Slim connection to soul music is that it was written by Joey Levine, who wrote and recorded (as Joey Edwards) the original version of "How Big Is Big". Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soulman Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 How about the Cate Bros - Where Can We Go. Was even covered up as the Anderson Bros as mentioned in the original post. Was once told that they were (hate this term) Blue Eyed Soul boys but the title of their biggest selling album kinda gave it away - Crazy Cajun. Great record, although I must admit on the album cover they look more like Bo & Luke Duke from the Dukes of Hazzard. Wasn't this a Dave Raistrick discovery??? Steve Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soulman Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Keep on keepin on by NF Porter is almost a rock track with that moody guitar riff and psychedelic sound affects , still love it tho Could the influence be the fact that Nolan (NF) is married to Candice Zappa.... sister to the late Frank Zappa of legendary proportions on the folk / rock scene :D Steve Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soulman Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Purple Haze.............. to be honest you could get James Brown, Etta James, Aretha Franklyn, Marvin Gaye, Jackie Wilson, Sam Fletcher, Sam Dees, Otis Redding.... and many others all in the studio together... and it would still sound like a rock record ... because it is Steve Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Linky Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Rufus Lumley - 'I'm Standing' - Rock'n'Rollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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