I have a copy on London American (HL 10070) I have come across it on Revilot, Stateside, Quality and Million but never London. Anyone know anything about it at all? Cheers Nick

Congratulations Sir,this has surely become the most  fantastic find in years a true rareity and good luck to you  this will one day succeed Frank Wilson in the value stakes must be a one off     Im still shaking and pleased for you this IS the holy grail of Northern Soul   

Edited June 16, 201411 yr by linda4me

Oh RC will be all over it if it gets sold for a big number……but us soul collectors have always been the poor cousins where they are concerned.

 

They'll probably credit whoever auctions it with discovering it and not mention the chap who did find it 

If 150 SS collectors all bought a ticket for £100, assuming the seller would take £15,000  right now, then the winning ticket drawn gets to keep the  record. Hands up how many of us would risk a ton to have a go?

Count me in if it happens

Steve

I'm in on the lottery.

Out if interest is the version the same as the US single of OLIITP and not the alternative LP version?

Thinking about it. Nobody should own this and nobody should play it. I suggest that we all own it, well 100 people, ie raise a fund, amount to be agreed  and it should be placed in a Museum for all to admire with dismay... 

Edited June 16, 201411 yr by sheep

Out if interest is the version the same as the US single of OLIITP and not the alternative LP version?

 

Yes same as US single

Has anybody informed Mick Smith yet !

I would like to buy it and put it in my USA made jukebox...........

Only known surviving copy after 48 Years of searching by all

 

Iconic Double sider

 

Looks to be Mint (In any condition it would cause a stir)

 

Priceless, where do you start to put a realistic Value on this one off find.

I do love a happy ending...   :thumbup:

Edited June 16, 201411 yr by Orotava

They'll probably credit whoever auctions it with discovering it and not mention the chap who did find it 

Exactly why it should be sold on here (if sold at all) & not on Manships auction.

The owner first inquired about it on this site, it's authenticity was confirmed on here so why on earth would you want someone else to receive all the glory & a hefty 20% commission on it.

With a record like this history will be made wherever it is sold & the big collectors will all have a maximum they will pay wherever it gets sold also.

 

Has anybody informed Mick Smith yet !

:hatsoff2:HI ALL.... I WAS WAITING FOR HIM TO CONTACT ME,  DAVE K

Saw it on here last night.

 

Hardly slept a wink!

 

After this ANYTHING is possible.

 

Sean

Like England winning the World Cup

Like England winning the World Cup

Probably more likely to find a 'stock' copy of Frank Wilson than that!

Exactly why it should be sold on here (if sold at all) & not on Manships auction.

The owner first inquired about it on this site, it's authenticity was confirmed on here so why on earth would you want someone else to receive all the glory & a hefty 20% commission on it.

With a record like this history will be made wherever it is sold & the big collectors will all have a maximum they will pay wherever it gets sold also.

 

 

The only thing is Cunnie, if it was advertised just on here, wouldn't it be seen by only a limited amount of soul collectors?  I know Manship earns his pound of flesh via commission, but he seems to have a much wider buyer base and audience, and of course seems to gets top dollar on most rare items.

Thinking about it. Nobody should own this and nobody should play it. I suggest that we all own it, well 100 people, ie raise a fund, amount to be agreed  and it should be placed in a Museum for all to admire with dismay... 

 

Could this then make the Darrell Banks UK stock copy the first soul record to be owned under shared ownership, or even to have shares in it?

Has anybody informed Mick Smith yet !

 

I texted him this morning but he'll just shrug his shoulders when he reads it :-)

It has been muted, that knowing it was in a Decca employees possession, there maybe more than one, ie a lot ?

The only thing is Cunnie, if it was advertised just on here, wouldn't it be seen by only a limited amount of soul collectors?  I know Manship earns his pound of flesh via commission, but he seems to have a much wider buyer base and audience, and of course seems to gets top dollar on most rare items.

It won't be just advertised on here though. It's already plastered all over facebook for a start & I bet (assuming it's sold) that the winner already knows about it.

News like this travels fast.

Could this then make the Darrell Banks UK stock copy the first soul record to be owned under shared ownership, or even to have shares in it?

Yes, I think it would, but the importance of this find, in my opinion, justifies for it to be in the public domain under shared ownership and for ll to see.

It won't be just advertised on here though. It's already plastered all over facebook for a start & I bet (assuming it's sold) that the winner already knows about it.

News like this travels fast.

 

I posted it first thing, with the photos, the number of shares it's had is phenomenal, in fact you could say it's "gone viral".  Always wanted to say that.  Don't know why, it's nearly as bad as saying "choon".

Needless to say, if that was mine I'd have already taken the 10K I was offered for it earlier 

 HI ALL.... DOES THIS MEAN THE LONDON DEMO & THE RED & WHITE STATESIDE DEMO WILL INCREASE IN VALUE  DAVE K

in fact you could say it's "gone viral".  Always wanted to say that.  Don't know why, it's nearly as bad as saying "choon".

No it's not, don't kid yourself Pete. "choon" is about the most annoying word in the English language.

Rgards,

Dav

 HI ALL.... DOES THIS MEAN THE LONDON DEMO & THE RED & WHITE STATESIDE DEMO WILL INCREASE IN VALUE  DAVE K

Good evening Dave. by the law of averages they have both been trumped by the issue so I would assume that they have now decreased in said value

Steve

i didnt know this london issue was a rare or even not known to exist....ive got 5 of the bugga's!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

sorry my mistake....ive just seen germany paste portugal....made my brain weird for a second!....well done and big congrats! on finding this mega piece of northern soul history!

i didnt know this london issue was a rare or even not known to exist....ive got 5 of the bugga's!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

sorry my mistake....ive just seen germany paste portugal....made my brain weird for a second!....well done and big congrats! on finding this mega piece of northern soul history!

 

F*ck, bang goes the football that I'd recorded, cheers for that!

why on earth would you want someone else to receive all the glory & a hefty 20% commission on it.

 

Because Manship is the Sotheby's of NS vinyl auctions. 

 

I do agree with the points you made, but part of me wants to witness the fanfare of a JM number on this disc, if it isn't sold already. Can you imagine the 'sizzle'? !!!

Because Manship is the Sotheby's of NS vinyl auctions. 

 

I do agree with the points you made, but part of me wants to witness the fanfare of a JM number on this disc, if it isn't sold already. Can you imagine the 'sizzle'? !!!

I really can't contain my excitement.  Oh hang on, yes I can after all.

I need somewhere safe for it now.....under the mattress, in the airing cupboard   I think I knew it was the one but just did not want to believe it with my own eyes, bit shocked tbh!

 

Neither under mattress or airing cupboard.... you'll warp it & if you get 10k at auction don't buy a car... it'l depreciate to 5k

Stick it in a Swiss bank vault

No it's not, don't kid yourself Pete. "choon" is about the most annoying word in the English language.

Rgards,

Dav

 

Ah, but "choons" help you breath more easily

Have you played it yet? Be awful to find out its a mis pressed record lol

seriously congratulations on finding it

I posted it first thing, with the photos, the number of shares it's had is phenomenal, in fact you could say it's "gone viral".  Always wanted to say that.  Don't know why, it's nearly as bad as saying "choon".

Needless to say, if that was mine I'd have already taken the 10K I was offered for it earlier 

So is that official Pete, that 10K has already been offered for it?

So is that official Pete, that 10K has already been offered for it?

 

Yeah but to me, when it's nothing to do with me!  I just posted it up in facebook and said it was the real deal.  If someone had offered me 10K for a record it would have been done and dusted already :-)

Good evening Dave. by the law of averages they have both been trumped by the issue so I would assume that they have now decreased in said value

Steve

 

Just the sight and thought of the London stock copy seems to make the London demo a little insipid right now!

Edited June 16, 201411 yr by Gene-R

This is quite a find !

   Out of curiosity, why was the London issue withdrawn and how did "Open The Door ..." end up on Stateside ?

Anyone want to buy my late Dad's house? I'm due a share of the proceeds, about 30 grand, and can buy this then 

Nick

Fantastic find, well done. Darrell Banks is the obvious mega rarity ,but what is in the rest of the large collection mentioned at the start of this thread. A nice run of mint mid 60 s London releases would add up to a fair few pounds. Maybe once everyone has calmed down you could let us know what else you found.

Rick

Sorry answer in previous post.

Edited June 16, 201411 yr by Northern Soul UK

Personally, I think it's nobody's business what he paid for it. 50p, £50, £500... He said it was part of collection anyway.

 

Obviously everybody on here is very soul focused, but London label collectors are a rabid bunch, who aren't very keen on demos. I would have thought ebay would be the only way to sell this, to get the full coverage and exposure it warrants. If two soul fans want to offer £10k on a Manship auction, it'll go for £10k. If it got listed on ebay, both those soul fans would bid. Plus a whole load of rock'n'roll collectors and wealthy Russians and Japanese brain surgeons and investment bankers who earn £10k in a single day. There's a whole world of eccentric and rich nutcases out there who've never even heard of John Manship (sorry, John...)

 

Congratulations Nick, just goes to show, never say never. Bet your PM box is burning red hot...

Obviously everybody on here is very soul focused, but London label collectors are a rabid bunch, who aren't very keen on demos.

 

Probably stems from the fact that most London collectors, particularly those who have little or no interest in Soul music, collect the label ostensibly for the Rock n' Roll side of it, and it's known that RnR collectors always favour stock copies over demos.

Edited June 16, 201411 yr by Gene-R

It won't be just advertised on here though. It's already plastered all over facebook for a start & I bet (assuming it's sold) that the winner already knows about it.

News like this travels fast.

 

 

The other factor, on the sale of this is, its  probably limited UK to collector demand.

How many U.S./Japanese buyers will be interested compared to the Motown etc. "full set" collectors that wanted Frank Wilson,

or some of the Shrine stuff that John has sold recently ?.

.  If someone had offered me 10K for a record it would have been done and dusted already :-)

 

I wondered how much it would be for you to actually clean a record before you posted it out  

Just the sight and thought of the London stock copy seems to make the London demo a little insipid right now!

and every other record

Nick hasn't even hinted at selling it yet, has he???

 

I know if it was me, I'd NEVER sell it.

 

And I think I'd probably retire from collecting if I was the one to have found it. I mean, as a British label collector, what else would there be to keep me collecting???

Nick hasn't even hinted at selling it yet, has he???

 

I know if it was me, I'd NEVER sell it.

 

And I think I'd probably retire from collecting if I was the one to have found it. I mean, as a British label collector, what else would there be to keep me collecting???

 

 That's defeatist - I expected more     

When it was discussed on here a while back as to who's version was the best DB or J.J. Barnes, I said.............................

 

Darrell Banks is the epitome of Northern Soul - for me it defines the whole thing....

....A 60's UK release (on the iconic Stateside label)

....A legendary promo only release on an earlier UK label (London)

....A non Motown Detroit release (on Revilot )

....A fantastic double sider with Open the Door (maybe the best double sider ever)

....A truly great Soul Man and Singer........................................One 45 ...anyone asks about Northern Soul - give them a copy

 

Now we can add a single UK issue copy on London that has been hidden away for just shy of 50 years!!!!!!!

Have told this story before on SS, its still so vivid and tells you just how good the record is, me and my mate Gaz Simon were in Canada at Martin Koppel's in 1989, we went to an industrial estate in Toronto where Martin had a unit that was wall to wall, floor to roof 7 inch vinyl, 4 coloured guys had come up from New York to buy Soul records and Martin was playing them a pile he thought they might be interested in on a small deck on the counter, me and Gaz were buried in dust and vinyl, then we heard the immortal intro to Open the door, after about a minute the guys were whooping and high 5ing and man hugging, I will take that memory with me until I die, its still so vivid

 

Kev

Nick hasn't even hinted at selling it yet, has he???

I know if it was me, I'd NEVER sell it.

And I think I'd probably retire from collecting if I was the one to have found it. I mean, as a British label collector, what else would there be to keep me collecting???

The ones you still haven't got???

;o)

To Premium Stuff and Mace: I know, I know, it was a rash statement, from the heart and not the head

I wondered how much it would be for you to actually clean a record before you posted it out  

 

I clean every record I send out Kegsy.  F*ck you on about.