Frankie Crocker Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 From JM's 6th edition price guide, (referring to the abbreviation "nor" in it's use to describe a northern soul record) "A record that has been or could be played by a Northern Soul DJ" Using this as a definition WSOT would be classed as a Northern Soul record. Could be a typo.. Should read Aberration - an abominable record that should never have pressed let alone played in public... 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Matt Male Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 (edited) Racking my brains here over another one Levine championed for a time at the Rocket. I have it on a CD I can't find and it's doing my head in. It's on that CD 'Not Earthy Enough: Sound of the Rocket'. Anyone got a track listing? Edit: Just remembered it - Jim Gilstrap - Run Run Run Edited February 13, 2014 by Matt Male Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve G Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Racking my brains here over another one Levine championed for a time at the Rocket. I have it on a CD I can't find and it's doing my head in. It's on that CD 'Not Earthy Enough: Sound of the Rocket'. Anyone got a track listing? Edit: Just remembered it - Jim Gilstrap - Run Run Run That was on Bell, not a Levine production….pretty good record from c 1972 ish. 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Matt Male Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 That was on Bell, not a Levine production….pretty good record from c 1972 ish. Yes that's the one Steve, I knew it wasn't one of Levines, it is pretty rare though isn't it? Didn't he sell his on to Tim Brown or something? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Gogs Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Could be a typo.. Should read Aberration - an abominable record that should never have pressed let alone played in public... Only thing wrong with that is it also refers to good Northern Soul records. But i can relate to the people that like this record (i have my own hates, Murial Day and The Poppies to name but 2 and i would rank TWST higher than these). But each to their own. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve G Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Yes that's the one Steve, I knew it wasn't one of Levines, it is pretty rare though isn't it? Didn't he sell his on to Tim Brown or something? Yes Brown got it. When he was selling up some years ago, I was the second person in there after Tim, and it had already gone. Still after it as it happens.... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Carty Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 The thread prompted me to seek out Curtis Mayfield , The other side of town. on a 45 , just bought it for £ 2.55.on e bay , made my night ! 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
CAMBRIDGE SOUL Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 every one hates it, it seems......................so anybody selling one ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Frankie Crocker Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 every one hates it, it seems......................so anybody selling one ? It appears not - they're like Gary Glitter LP's as there's no point trying to sell them and you couldn't persuade anyone to take them off you for nothing... 3 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Swifty Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 It appears not - they're like Gary Glitter LP's as there's no point trying to sell them and you couldn't persuade anyone to take them off you for nothing... 'Makes you Blind' 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Julianb Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Yes Brown got it. When he was selling up some years ago, I was the second person in there after Tim, and it had already gone. Still after it as it happens.... Resides in this household Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve G Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Resides in this household Well please bear me in mind when you get bored with it…. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Rodders22 Posted February 19, 2014 Author Share Posted February 19, 2014 Resides in this household Hi Julian, did I ever get the the CD from the last Soul At The Mill Charity Do to you, Your pick, RUN RUN RUN -JIM GILSTRAP one of the best tracks, and so bloody RARE. Give me a shout and I'll send one on to you. Rod Clegg Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Popular Post Benji Posted February 19, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 19, 2014 I really like "Wrong side of town" ever since it came out well over 10 years ago. Nice lyrics. Excellent vocals. Catchy melody. Is it Northern to me? Yes and No to a certain degree. Certainly no upfront Rare Soul material. What I dislike about it and what still leaves a pretty sour taste in my mouth is the scam that IL tried to pull back then. Bullshit stories like "first ever copy found back in 1971 got broken when some famous name sat on it on a bus to the Mecca". Selling a copy to Ginger for a 4 figure sum. etc. etc. That's basically why I never bought a vinyl copy of it. I don't want a record in my collection with such a history. And finally I said it back then when it came out and I say it again now: Anyone who doesn't hear it's a new production, you're probably deaf. 4 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Northern Soul Uk Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Yes I think so…..and James Wells both made in the 70s. and JJ Barnes - Talk of the Grapevine - Great track it is too. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Rodders22 Posted February 20, 2014 Author Share Posted February 20, 2014 Hey Benji, If Levine hadn't tried to deceive the northern crowd, he would have got a lot more credit for the actual record content. he didn't so here we are now with 166 Shouts, I will say one thing thou ! The Northern scene without these bods wouldn't be the same, and we wouldn't have anything to talk about. Rod 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Frankie Crocker Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Hey Benji, If Levine hadn't tried to deceive the northern crowd, he would have got a lot more credit for the actual record content. he didn't so here we are now with 166 Shouts, I will say one thing thou ! The Northern scene without these bods wouldn't be the same, and we wouldn't have anything to talk about. Rod Hi Rod - the Northern scene would be better without these 'bods' and there would be a lot more positive things to talk about such a high quality rarities unearthed by hard working collectors and DJ's... 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Wiganer1 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 disagree frankie ...ian is still discovering/reactivating some great 60s & 70s pieces ... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 every one hates it, it seems......................so anybody selling one ? I can sell you one if you like.. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Rodders22 Posted February 20, 2014 Author Share Posted February 20, 2014 (edited) Hi Rod - the Northern scene would be better without these 'bods' and there would be a lot more positive things to talk about such a high quality rarities unearthed by hard working collectors and DJ's... Hi Frankie, I still think they played a part in our Music Scene (Good or Bad), and I would like to think we are all a bit wiser now. So let's all move forward ,if we can. Rod Edited February 20, 2014 by Rodders22 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
CAMBRIDGE SOUL Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 It appears not - they're like Gary Glitter LP's as there's no point trying to sell them and you couldn't persuade anyone to take them off you for nothing... well I would be happy to take one much better than a gary glitter LP! ;-) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Popular Post Pete S Posted February 25, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 25, 2014 well I would be happy to take one much better than a gary glitter LP! ;-) I like Gary Glitter, not the man, but when those singles came out, the early ones were great to a 12 / 13 year old kid. Did a podcast recently and put Rock n Roll Pt 2 on, no complaints! 4 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 well I would be happy to take one much better than a gary glitter LP! ;-) I like Gary Glitter records. I think it's shameful that Mike Leander's productions are being excised from pop history along with the work of the musicians that played on them. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 I like Gary Glitter, not the man, but when those singles came out, the early ones were great to a 12 / 13 year old kid. Did a podcast recently and put Rock n Roll Pt 2 on, no complaints! Snap! 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
CAMBRIDGE SOUL Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 I like Gary Glitter, not the man, but when those singles came out, the early ones were great to a 12 / 13 year old kid. Did a podcast recently and put Rock n Roll Pt 2 on, no complaints! My Mum loved Gary Glitter and I remember the glitter band Lp being all over the place when I was about 13 I think ...come on , come on, come on come,on come on come on ,,,,,I said ! lol 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 (edited) I like Gary Glitter records. I think it's shameful that Mike Leander's productions are being excised from pop history along with the work of the musicians that played on them. Very true. Did you ever hear the version of "Put it where you want it" by Hot Rocks on UK Bell? Version of The Crusaders, but produced by Mike Leander, and you can tell as there are still some Glitter Band drums in there, it's quite good. Probably 1973 I'd have thought. Found it Edited February 25, 2014 by Pete S Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Snap! Yeah that was well weird, posted almost the same thing at exactly the same time...on the 'spooky' topic as well! 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 (edited) Very true. Did you ever hear the version of "Put it where you want it" by Hot Rocks on UK Bell? Version of The Crusaders, but produced by Mike Leander, and you can tell as there are still some Glitter Band drums in there, it's quite good. Probably 1973 I'd have thought. Found it Thanks for that - no, never heard it before. Not sure the Glitteresque drums add anything to be honest and I'd still go for the Crusaders but it's always interesting to hear stuff like that. I just remembered that one of the sax players from a later version of The Glitter Band (mid 80s) used to pop in a pub where i worked when he was in the area. He was a session man who had some hilarious and invariably alcohol fueled tales of life on the road. Edited February 25, 2014 by Godzilla Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Yeah that was well weird, posted almost the same thing at exactly the same time...on the 'spooky' topic as well! Everything in common except politics (and possibly funk and hip hop records) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
John Parker Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 So.......not a winner on the popularity stakes !!!Venetia appears to have got off relatively lightly compared to Steve and his cronies Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Everything in common except politics (and possibly funk and hip hop records) I was a card carrying member of the Labour Party until Blair got in...then it all started to change LOL I like a lot of old hip hop, late 80's early 90's, not too keen on funk but not really heard that much. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 I was a card carrying member of the Labour Party until Blair got in...then it all started to change LOL I like a lot of old hip hop, late 80's early 90's, not too keen on funk but not really heard that much. My period of hip hop too: Stetsasonic, Main Source, Brand Nubian, UMCs - loved all that stuff. I'll sling a funk comp your way... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Gogs Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 (edited) My period of hip hop too: Stetsasonic, Main Source, Brand Nubian, UMCs - loved all that stuff. I'll sling a funk comp your way... WHO ? Not heard of any off them. Fancy slinging a copy my way, in case i'm missing out. Edited February 26, 2014 by Gogs Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 WHO ? Not heard of any off them. Fancy slinging a copy my way, in case i'm missing out. Sure you could PM your address or we could start an old school hip hop topic in freebasing. That's probably the best idea so that a few other peeps on here could chuck their ideas in Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Gogs Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 or we could start an old school hip hop topic in freebasing. That's probably the best idea so that a few other peeps on here could chuck their ideas in Sounds like a good idea Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Sounds like a good idea We're well on with it. Check Freebasing. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Gogs Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 We're well on with it. Check Freebasing. going there right now Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mr Fred Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 The drumming and horns sound very similar to the ones on Alexander pattons "A lil lovin sometimes", that's how i came to the conclusion it wasn't original. Regards Fred ward. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Northern Soul Uk Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 (edited) and Evelyn Thomas Weakspot, made it big on the scene in the day and charted I believe Edited September 28, 2016 by Northern Soul UK Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Diddy Morgan Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 On 2/9/2014 at 12:10, Pete S said: The Venecia Wilson record is fantastic. Apart from the fact it totally rips off another record. a familiar trait ive noticed Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Hooker1951 Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 That record was a disgrace totally phoney and anybody who didn't realise that certainly don't know as much about music as they think they do hence the embarrassment from the so called boffins of ballyhoo DJ,s who fell for it, ML 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chatty Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Levine talking about the Four Vandals record in 2003 (13 minutes onwards, sorry don't know how to edit the clip). Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Frankie Crocker Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Had totally forgotten about this thread... Well, as it's harvest time across the shires, maybe this could be played in fields to scare the birds away. Perhaps play it in shopping centres to encourage the hoodies to move on. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Frankie Crocker Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 On 25 February 2014 at 22:12, Pete S said: I was a card carrying member of the Labour Party until Blair got in...then it all started to change LOL I like a lot of old hip hop, late 80's early 90's, not too keen on funk but not really heard that much. Come back Pete - your contributions are sorely missed. 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve Foran Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 21 hours ago, diddy morgan said: a familiar trait ive noticed Yes Steve, Ian Levine actually borrowed Alan Pollards copy of the instrumental ( cant recall name) to get the backing. I remember Alan telling me! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
The Yank Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Wasn't it The Peter Hamilton Generation "Hey Girl" on Jamie / Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
givemesoul Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Hooker1951 if you heard it played out without knowing what you do know i doubt you would call it a disgrace its a crackin tune Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Davenpete Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 (edited) 23 hours ago, Hooker1951 said: That record was a disgrace totally phoney and anybody who didn't realise that certainly don't know as much about music as they think they do hence the embarrassment from the so called boffins of ballyhoo DJ,s who fell for it, ML That's the crux - the fact it made monkies out of supposed experts - gods know why, it stood out like a sore thumb to me. If you listen closely to the lyrics it could be taken as a 'fuck you' to exactly the people it hoodwinked. Dx Edited September 30, 2016 by DaveNPete Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tomangoes Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 This record has served its purpose.........fool me once etc. Gary Lewis and his fan daby dozi playboys filled the dancefloor's as well, but it's not in many folks top 15,000 now.......... Stick to the formula and you can't go wrong, stray a little and expect the unexpected. It was once estimated that there are 27,000 acceptable toon's to pick from and still be an 'ok kinda guy'......... Give or take a few, that's about 26,500 underplayed 'acceptable' toon's that would not cause grief!! Stick to the right side of town! Ed Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mickey Finn Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Or there's always the poor side of town, now available on the compilation "Gonna make you an offer: the complete Cube recordings 1972-75": 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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