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If this has been done before I apologise as I did do a search before posting this..

As our scene has crossed paths with many different music genres from r&b, Latin soul, beach music etc..

How much of it has come from the Garage scene?

I know we had the seeds pushing too hard and gypsy drywell, innkeepers never should have done it..

Forest fire on main street, covered as lord Sitar and the Baltimore marching band..

I know Keb used to slip one or two in but my memory isn't what it was 🥲

So would appreciate any help

Mick

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There are loads more than people realise.

There has been a thread on here about this before, several years ago and a lot of tunes came out of the woodwork.

Obviously a couple of biggies are 'The Seven Dwarfs'and 'The Deadbeats'.

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2 minutes ago, Soul-slider said:

There are loads more than people realise.

There has been a thread on here about this before, several years ago and a lot of tunes came out of the woodwork.

Obviously a couple of biggies are 'The Seven Dwarfs'and 'The Deadbeats'.

Thank you, that is why I did a search but nothing popped up.. if anyone else can help with a link I would appreciate it.

vondells - hey girl - airtown

lost souls - secret of mine - raven

lost souls - i'm gonna hurt you - raven

count five - psychotic reaction

? and the mysterions - 96 tears - cameo

first grade - please come back - frog

the jades - i'm where its at - nite life

A Few more...

Nomads - Somethings bad - Mo-Groov

The Oxfords - Its You - National

Alpacas - Sometimes i love you - Double Take

Ambassadors - Too much of a good thing - Pee Vee

Earl Dawkins & Aqua lads - Aint gonna ride -Aqua

Little jr Jesse - Little Play Girl - Metro dome

The Montours - Goin all thee way - United Audio

The Twilights - Your the one - Aqua

King Edwards & Bds - More than yesterday - Groovy

48 minutes ago, Mach said:

A Few more...

Nomads - Somethings bad - Mo-Groov

The Oxfords - Its You - National

Alpacas - Sometimes i love you - Double Take

Ambassadors - Too much of a good thing - Pee Vee

Earl Dawkins & Aqua lads - Aint gonna ride -Aqua

Little jr Jesse - Little Play Girl - Metro dome

The Montours - Goin all thee way - United Audio

The Twilights - Your the one - Aqua

King Edwards & Bds - More than yesterday - Groovy

That Little Jr. Jesse is a great tune! Also The Alpacas.

King Edwards & His B.D's track was also done by The Swingin' Medallions but that's LP only.

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12 hours ago, The Tempest said:

Absolutely cracking tune. I love it, thank you 😊

Just a couple off the top of my head ...

The Cliff hangers - Since you've been away

The Chevrons - Love I Love you

The Eptones - A Love that's real

Nicky C & the Chateaux - those good times

The lucky charms - tied to my heart

The Shaddows - Together Again - United Audio

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My understanding of "Garage" from the U.S. perspective is no horns, but guitar driven - Some of the tunes mentioned are groups trying to emulate the Soul sound of the time?

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Soulful stomping garage at its best

Really hard to find imho

I know it’s had plays here and there but

Should be massive

It’s brilliant

I always loved this soulful garage stomper

Great vocal and ridiculous Hammond

Not an easy record to find

Dunno it it has ever been played on soul scene , it will of on the Mod scene I image

Bit A Sweet was a HUGE spin on the Mod scene in the early 2k's. Infact I'd class it as freakbeat and not garage or even northern.

5 hours ago, Md Records said:

My understanding of "Garage" from the U.S. perspective is no horns, but guitar driven - Some of the tunes mentioned are groups trying to emulate the Soul sound of the time?

Agree, i wouldn’t of called a lot of these garage records either

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8 hours ago, Md Records said:

My understanding of "Garage" from the U.S. perspective is no horns, but guitar driven - Some of the tunes mentioned are groups trying to emulate the Soul sound of the time?

I sort of agree, alot of the suggestions to me are blue eyed soul , what I would call Carolina Soul almost beach music.

But I'm not being ungrateful for the suggestions but I personally ( my own interpretations ) was trying to get across is garage music almost with a touch of rock music ( yes guitars) which is why I quoted The Seeds and The Innkeepers. And sounds like this that Keb often plays.

I know The Nomads, Vondells, Embers etc are blue eyed/carolina soul in my eyes not garage .

I trust I haven't upset anyone in this woke society with my personal views

57 minutes ago, Greedy Mick said:

I sort of agree, alot of the suggestions to me are blue eyed soul , what I would call Carolina Soul almost beach music.

But I'm not being ungrateful for the suggestions but I personally ( my own interpretations ) was trying to get across is garage music almost with a touch of rock music ( yes guitars) which is why I quoted The Seeds and The Innkeepers. And sounds like this that Keb often plays.

I know The Nomads, Vondells, Embers etc are blue eyed/carolina soul in my eyes not garage .

I trust I haven't upset anyone in this woke society with my personal views

the vondells are from indiana

2 hours ago, Dobber said:

Does garage mean guitar based songs or simply blued eyed soul?

Inmates-this is the day-kop

7 hours ago, Gaz T said:

Soulful stomping garage at its best

Really hard to find imho

I know it’s had plays here and there but

Should be massive

It’s brilliant

6 hours ago, Benji said:

Bit A Sweet was a HUGE spin on the Mod scene in the early 2k's. Infact I'd class it as freakbeat and not garage or even northern.

I got my copy from a car boot years ago. I played the other side first 'Out Of Sight, Out Of Mind' and immediately thought Garage/Freakbeat. However I have to say, soon as I played the other side 'Is It On Is It Off' I immediately thought Garage / Northern. Just my observation.

The Blues inc record "Cant live without you" on United Audio is a known Garage Rock record, not sure if its ever been played out or not. , Also come across this, probably the same band but not certain, and defo more garagey (if thats a word) D

On 03/06/2025 at 08:01, Trev Thomas said:

vondells - hey girl - airtown

lost souls - secret of mine - raven

lost souls - i'm gonna hurt you - raven

count five - psychotic reaction

? and the mysterions - 96 tears - cameo

first grade - please come back - frog

the jades - i'm where its at - nite life

Vondells.... I still laugh at myself for giving you a discount when you bought at the Carlton Club

The ultimate oxymoron.

Garage Soul. Most of which is soulful in people’s heads only.

Nuff said.

On 03/06/2025 at 15:49, Dobber said:

Does garage mean guitar based songs or simply blued eyed soul?

Inmates-this is the day-kopit

On 02/06/2025 at 19:52, Greedy Mick said:

If this has been done before I apologise as I did do a search before posting this..

As our scene has crossed paths with many different music genres from r&b, Latin soul, beach music etc..

How much of it has come from the Garage scene?

I know we had the seeds pushing too hard and gypsy drywell, innkeepers never should have done it..

Forest fire on main street, covered as lord Sitar and the Baltimore marching band..

I know Keb used to slip one or two in but my memory isn't what it was 🥲

So would appreciate any help

Mick

I don't think this has come from the Garage Scene. UK and US Soulful House and Garage evolved approx early 90s. My partner was a DJ and played this music at Allnighters in West Yorkshire. I also played a few times.

None of the records on here are Garage tunes.

The backbeat is not Garage either.

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4 minutes ago, Sue Smith said:

I don't think this has come from the Garage Scene. UK and US Soulful House and Garage evolved approx early 90s. My partner was a DJ and played this music at Allnighters in West Yorkshire. I also played a few times.

None of the records on here are Garage tunes.

The backbeat is not Garage either.

There were 'garage' scenes in the 60s and 70s way before the name was nicked for the 90's genre.

Thank you, I completely forgot about that! Sorry! I was just thinking about the 90s. I was never keen on 60s 70s Garage music. Being a Mod I was strictly into Motown, RnB Soul and Mod groups 😊

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From the 'Top 500'. 'Nobody But Me'- The Human Beinz. I have had a copy for over 50 years and I've heard it played out in some otherwise great places (can't comment on 'niters' re this though) but I can't take it seriously in a Northern Soul set. For me, it cheapens things and is just plain wrong- but each to their own.

On 05/06/2025 at 13:16, Woodbutcher said:

There were 'garage' scenes in the 60s and 70s way before the name was nicked for the 90's genre.

Jeff Lemlich documented the Florida scene in a book also containing details of Florida soul music.

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Most of these songs on this thread are NOT pure "Garage". Most are "Blue-Eyed Soul", some are Blue-Eyed Soul/Garage hybrids, one or two are Blue-eyed Soul/Funk hybrids. As I remember, Garage Rock songs virtually always have a very energetic (usually raucous) guitar solo break near the middle, and don't have the horns that many or most of these songs do. They are mostly guitars, drums and keyboards/organ. Most of these are too studio sophisticated, made by complex productions.


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On 04/06/2025 at 12:38, Kieron Taz Robathan said:

This is not much more "Garagey" than "My Girl" by The Temptations. It's a Soul song (other than a couple seconds of minor key organ chords).

Merging Traffic..Ain't No Use ....most of these tracks are beat .not exactly Back To The Grave like The Keggs-I'll Find out.

On 04/06/2025 at 12:12, Jkpnefc said:

THIS is "Garage"! Simple, Guitar, drums, keyboard/organ, screaming, raucous guitar solo break! (unsweet). I don't know why so many people call this a "Soul song". It's a Garage song with an extremely small Soul tint in a couple short few second spots. I haven't listened to all these songs; but those 10-12 I've listened to, or heard before, are mostly"Blue-Eyed Soul".

3 hours ago, Robbk said:

This is not much more "Garagey" than "My Girl" by The Temptations. It's a Soul song (other than a couple seconds of minor key organ chords).

Each to their own I suppose 😎

This could put the cat amongst the pigeons hypo ..D

18 hours ago, Natalie89 said:

I used to give this a spin from time to time

This is absolutely NOTHING like 1960s "Garage" music. No guitar solo. It has horns. It's plain "Pop", to me, with an extremely light touch of "Blue-Eyed Soul", in a couple very short spots. Guitar isn't prominent enough. Too much production.

18 hours ago, Mach said:

This could put the cat amongst the pigeons hypo ..D

THIS IS '60s "Garage Band" style! Heavy emphasis on Guitar and organ, and only also drums. No horns or strings. Long break in middle featuring both organ and guitar. Screaming vocal. Not sweet like much of the "Blue-Eyed Soul". More of an "Angry Young Rebels" style. Blue-Eyed Soul is a lot closer to standard Soul than it is to "Garage". I don't know about 1990s "Garage". That may be totally different from '60s "Garage". IF so, they should have thought of a different name for it.

3 hours ago, Robbk said:

This is absolutely NOTHING like 1960s "Garage" music. No guitar solo. It has horns. It's plain "Pop", to me, with an extremely light touch of "Blue-Eyed Soul", in a couple very short spots. Guitar isn't prominent enough. Too much production.

I totally agree with your opinion... I used to plus it right up as well just to give it some umph 🤣🤣... Does sound better ...

Here's another one I've been hearing getting regular plays around the venues 🎶🎵

Both sides on that No Na Mee's 45 are fantastic.

Robb is 100% right. Very few of the tracks posted in this thread would be considered garage by people who actually like and collect that "genre" of music.

Strings, horns and harmony vocals are by-and-large big no-no's. Unison (but not harmony) group vocals are more tolerated. Horns are OK when it comes to frat-inflicted stuff like The Sonics etc.

Snotty/snarling/screaming vocals, pummeling beat, distorted guitars, fuzz guitar or heavily distorted guitar break are crucial unless the song is a moody mid-tempo lament or of the more jingle-jangle Byrds-ian variant.

Heavy Kinks/Animals/Them/Pretty Things influence. Often heavy r&b or bo-beat influence, but seldom soul influence.

A few examples:

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Picked that Accidentals up blind off U.S ebay a few years ago for about $35, moved it on for double, but wish i,d kept it now,..goes to show theres still stuff knocking about in the woodwork if you look hard enough. Picked this Wald recording at same time.

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1 hour ago, Mach said:

Picked that Accidentals up blind off U.S ebay a few years ago for about $35, moved it on for double, but wish i,d kept it now,..goes to show theres still stuff knocking about in the woodwork if you look hard enough. Picked this Wald recording at same time.

That could get plays at 'Northern' nights, great vocals!

EDIT: I knew I'd heard it before! Track 19...

Accidentals on there too.

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First heard the (A Little Bit Harder) side about 10 years ago now, on YouTube by Dick Coombes, and then the (Groovin’ Along) side I first heard about 7 or 8 years back at an All-nighter when Johnny Weston spun it, and since then it’s been a huge record on scene, and whichever side you choose, both seem to go down well. I prefer this side but each to there own 😉.

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Garage, didn't the term come from where they generally practised as they had no access to proper facilities, namely the Garage. Just guitar bands from my understanding.

2 minutes ago, Chalky said:

Garage, didn't the term come from where they generally practised as they had no access to proper facilities, namely the Garage. Just guitar bands from my understanding.

I agree, practised in garages and some made it into a studio and some didn't

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