Garethx Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 We've had many threads on the definitions and semantics of the term. We have the fantastic media thread on the subject which continues to entertain and inform. I thought I'd start a thread for people to nominate one record which they view as the ultimate embodiment of the genre. I appreciate that these generic definitions are problematic and maybe unnecessary but hopefully this thread will give those who wonder what all the fuss is about an insight as to why fans of these records are so passionate about them. It would be great if contributors could limit themselves to ONE record: that which is in their eyes the ultimate example of the term. I'll start the ball rolling and nominate RICHARD CAITON "I'D LIKE TO GET NEAR YOU" on UP TIGHT I'll write a bit about exactly why I think it's the ultimate Crossover record a bit later, but I'm already looking forward to others' choices and am eager to see what, if any, consensus emerges. There are no wrong answers.
John Reed Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 (edited) Gareth, surely not another contoversial thread.... Mine Chuck Ray - I Don't Mind - Tamboo. For me its the ultimate swayer and can never get bored or it. Can't keep it to one and cheating by also including Billy Kent - Take It All this Time - Expo - Complete magic. Edited March 25, 2010 by John Reed
Garethx Posted March 25, 2010 Author Posted March 25, 2010 Hopefully this thread will not be a place for controversy for controversy's sake John. Debate is welcomed. Remember, there are no wrong answers, but you will have to choose between Billy Kent and Chuck Ray, I'm afraid. There can only be one ultimate.
Upthejunction Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 Hopefully this thread will not be a place for controversy for controversy's sake John. Debate is welcomed. Remember, there are no wrong answers, but you will have to choose between Billy Kent and Chuck Ray, I'm afraid. There can only be one ultimate. Would Bobby Taylor - Don't Be Afraid sit in this category ?
Garethx Posted March 25, 2010 Author Posted March 25, 2010 Would Bobby Taylor - Don't Be Afraid sit in this category ? Most definitely I would say.
The Tempest Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 Don't know about it being the ULTIMATE crossover track , but it's a good un !
Dave Thorley Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 Guitar Ray -You gonna wreck my life Bobby Sheen-Something new to do Soul Brothers Inc - Pyramid Lyn Varnado - Was and wear love Houston Outlaws -Aint no telling Can't come up with just one, but here are a few that would be up there off the top of my head
Rob Wigley Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 "I Know You're Leaving Me" - Si Hightower Has it all, rarity megga following, and SOUL R & K
Guest James Trouble Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 Willie Wright "Right On for The Darkness" on Hotel
Sean Hampsey Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 Darrell Banks "I'm The One Who Loves You" Stax / Volt My tune! Sean
Sweeney Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 I'll plump for "Pyramid" by Soul Bros Inc. on Golden Eye. Cuz it's like no other...
Guest Ollie Lailey Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 (edited) The Volumes - I've Never Been So In Love or The Differences - Five Minutes Edited March 25, 2010 by Ollie Lailey
Baz Atkinson Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 Put this up for my soulmate,too me along with the flip sums it up perfectly,pleased i got mine as the price will rocket on this eventually!! It is perfection. BERNARD SMITH - NEVER GONNA LET YOU GO - SPECTRUM 7" - BAZ A
John Benson Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 This one can't be narrowed down to just one, but just for this moment in time I'd go for: Maxine Brown's "Don't leave me baby" on Epic - one 'Epic' performance from the lady!
Dennisoul Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 Fab choice Baz, av played NGLYG out a few times north of the border with not much success yet. It will have it's day....2 perfect sides.
Geeselad Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 The time is right for love Bobby Reed- OBVIOUSLY!!
Geeselad Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 Don't know about it being the ULTIMATE crossover track , but it's a good un ! Top choice!!
Eddie Hubbard Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 I would have probably plumped for Richard Caiton as well Gareth , but seeing as you've chosen it my choice is Clyde McPhatter " Anyone can tell [ we're in love ] " from the Decca album " Welcome Home " .Fantastic lyrics and production put this at the top of the Crossover tree for me .Great thread mate ....Best,Eddie
Harry Crosby Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 This one can't be narrowed down to just one, but just for this moment in time I'd go for: Maxine Brown's "Don't leave me baby" on Epic - one 'Epic' performance from the lady! AGREED
Daved Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 I'd vote for Celest Hardy too. i always think of it as the most typical of crossover tunes.
Blake H Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 Narrowed it down to Len Jewel Elevator Song or Alex Brown I'm not Responsible. I'll ponder some more and eliminate one! BH
Guest Seagrave Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 No competition for this at all, Mel Britt - She'll Come Running Back - FIP
pikeys dog Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 It's a tie for me: Celete Hardy - You're Gone - Reynolds or Willie Tee - First Taste Of Hurt - Gatur
Corbett80 Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 Way too many to decide. With Dave on Guitar Ray as one of them though. Achingly soulful and moving 45!
Reg Scott Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 As you say Gareth the definition of 'crossover' is difficult to say the least. However, for the price conscious anything by Candi Staton on Fame, BUT my single choice (atm) is: Almeta Lattimore - These Memories - Mainstream Just Beautiful! Regards, Greg.
Paul-s Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 Willie Wright "Right On for The Darkness" on Hotel Xover...NO WAY! Thats proper superb ghetto soul/funk.. Think this will be a hard thread Gareth, as we all define it very differently...anyway, lets keep trying..
Russ Vickers Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 Double O domingos - Color One Tear Black Part 1 I'm still after this if anyone can oblige, apologies for going off thread. Russ
Russ Vickers Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 Impossible to nail one really, but Chuck Cockerham - Have I the Right - Mala, has gotta be up there. Also: Detroit Sounds of Friction Tierra Earls on Tee Ti etc, etc Russ
Corbett80 Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 Patrinell Staten? We could be here all day........
Roger Williams Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 (edited) If I think of 'crossover', Gene Middleton 'No One To Love Me' on Funk Factory is always without fail the first record that springs to mind: Love it. Edited March 25, 2010 by Soulsorts
Wrongcrowd Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 The Volumes - I've Never Been So In Love or The Differences - Five Minutes It just goes to show that one man's Northern is another man's crossover. I'd have put the Volumes very firmly in the bag labelled 'Northern', the tempo and style say so..... Since John's allready baggsied Chuck Ray, then I'll go for Robert Tanner - Sweet Memories....
arnie j Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 MARGIE JOSEPH - ONE MORE CHANCE - loads of first choices already taken,mel britt,guitar ray etc,so ill plump for this one,great thread,could go on a long time !
Wrongcrowd Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 Xover...NO WAY! Thats proper superb ghetto soul/funk.. Think this will be a hard thread Gareth, as we all define it very differently...anyway, lets keep trying.. Right from the intro guitar riff you know that's never a crossover tune..... love it to death but I think your label defines it a whole lot better.... otherwise I'll claim Prince George - DPG..
arnie j Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 OSCAR WRIGHT - FELL IN LOVE - or this one please ? jason
binsy Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 Willie Tee - Teasin you again, so reminds me of Parkers. Brilliant times
Eddie Hubbard Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 If I think of 'crossover', Gene Middleton 'No One To Love Me' on Funk Factory is always without fail the first record that springs to mind: Love it. great choice Roger , best wishes ,Eddie
Dave Thorley Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 (edited) Impossible to nail one really, but Chuck Cockerham - Have I the Right - Mala, has gotta be up there. Also: Detroit Sounds of Friction Tierra Earls on Tee Ti etc, etc Russ Still can't bring down to just one, Chuck Cockerham would have to be up there and on the slower side Johnny Gilliam - Room full of tears Edited March 25, 2010 by Dave Thorley
Rob Wigley Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 OR The Old Codgers "My feet can't dance to fast records(anymore)" on I'll Buy Slower Records
Reg Scott Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 Xover...NO WAY! Thats proper superb ghetto soul/funk.. Think this will be a hard thread Gareth, as we all define it very differently...anyway, lets keep trying.. I dunno Paul, for me the Willie Wright "Right On for The Darkness" on Hotel has got enough soulful intent to just 'crossover'. As you say, traditionally a ghetto funk tune of quality and a cover that more than does justice to the original Curtis Mayfield 'Back To The World' album cut. ATB Greg.
Skegsoul Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 (edited) So very hard to pick one choon from so many crap records, but for me would have to be ; Ernie johnson " i can't stand the pain" artco. A close run thing tho' with Bobby wilburn/Burn "dreamer" & Pschedlic frankie"putting you out my life" pushing Ernie close. Edited March 25, 2010 by SKEGSOUL
binsy Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 Still can't bring down to just one, Chuck Cockerham would have to be up there and on the slower side Johnny Gilliam - Room full of tears I remember you playing Johnny gilliam covered up at Stafford Dave.
John Reed Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 (edited) I'll go for Robert Tanner - Sweet Memories.... Cracking choice Cliff, the other side's great too. Kinda takes away some of the sting off the hefty price tag Edited March 25, 2010 by John Reed
Garethx Posted March 25, 2010 Author Posted March 25, 2010 (edited) I dunno Paul, for me the Willie Wright "Right On for The Darkness" on Hotel has got enough soulful intent to just 'crossover'. As you say, traditionally a ghetto funk tune of quality and a cover that more than does justice to the original Curtis Mayfield 'Back To The World' album cut. ATB Greg. I was always under the impression that Willie Wright's version pre-dated the Back To The World cut by quite a few years. It's only a theory but I wonder if Curtis Mayfield didn't specifically write the song for him. Finally getting to see a copy of the 45 was instructive too, featuring a Boston address and an incorrect telephone number with the area code scratched out and corrected in biro. I wonder if all of the pitifully few copies which survive are like this. Whatever genre it's classed in this is one of the greatest soul records of all to me. Edited August 19, 2012 by garethx
Jaco Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 Amongst those already mentioned particularly Robert Tanner, Chuck Cockerham and Bernard Smith, I always think (rightly or wrongly) of Garfield Fleming - "Don't send me away"
Guest Mark Holmes Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 Has to be Emmit Long - Call Me Incredible slice of music
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