Soul Inc - My Proposal

[Markw]

Scales new heights?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/330780000955?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

Great record though.

[shute]

been watching this since day one

[Guest Bearsy]

Shame about the label having that felt markings on it but then again beggars can't be choosers lol

[Cunnie]

Seller states he's sold 4 other copies so this is his fifth copy to date & must throw up the question, how many more has he got???

[Bridgesoceity]

Bearsy says I can have his!

[Markw]

Seller states he's sold 4 other copies so this is his fifth copy to date & must throw up the question, how many more has he got???

Good point! How many are out there now?

[Swifty]

but how would you have 3 or 4 copies in not very good nick? I could understand if they were all ex-mint (Old store stock?) but in varying conditions ?

Swifty

[Sebastian]

I think the seller means that he has had 5 copies over the past bunch of years.

He lives in Flint, MI which is 8 miles from Mount Morris, MI where the Coconut Groove label is from so I guess he's found the 45s one at a time "in the wild".

If you look at the 3 copies on PopSike that sold in 2004 (VG+), 2007 (VG+) and 2008 (G+) it is clear that at least two of those - if not all three - came from the same seller that sold the copy today. Same wording in the descriptions, same or very similar auction titles etc.

[Guest Bearsy]

Bearsy says I can have his!

I posted to you yesterday John ;-)

[Guest Bearsy]

Does anyone know how many copies were pressed cos this copy makes it about 8/9 known now, could be a few more out there in his area somewhere ....

[Marc Forrest]

sorry guys, I needed an upgrade for my copy

LOL surely not! On a serious note, I had a bet going on with a mate of mine who remembering how many djs (ep. on the continnt) are after this tune said this 45 will make 8000 USD, I sad no way! it will make 4500 USD. but knowing who used to be the high bidder I feared for the worst ;) ...last copy I know of changed hands in a private deal end of last year for sth around 3000 UKP.

[Tailormade Gaz B]

I've had reservations and cold sweats at the thought of writing this but i've plucked up the courage....

*I don't like it*.....

As a stand alone record its average, and the price is crazy. HOWEVER, I can see the appeal from a serious collectors POV and moreover, I could imagine it would work a treat in a well selected set of crossover/mid tempo's etc.

Who are the lucky few to have this - or is it not an issues to be discussed?

Edited August 24, 2012 by TailorMade Gaz B

[Philt]

Love it and want it, always have. I thought I'd bid heavy money for a vg+ copy but, as ever, depends who's bidding and how much they wanted it

I'd have sold and/ or traded major records and done without stuff for ages to own it but you've just gotta be patient I guess. If id had enough money this last year id've bought Mello Souls, Combinations, CODs, Soul Inc then packed it in lol.

[Guest Bearsy]

Love it and want it, always have. I thought I'd bid heavy money for a vg+ copy but, as ever, depends who's bidding and how much they wanted it

I'd have sold and/ or traded major records and done without stuff for ages to own it but you've just gotta be patient I guess. If id had enough money this last year id've bought Mello Souls, Combinations, CODs, Soul Inc then packed it in lol.

There has been some beauties for sale this year, not forgetting, parliaments too,

[Bridgesoceity]

I've had reservations and cold sweats at the thought of writing this but i've plucked up the courage....

*I don't like it*.....

As a stand alone record its average, and the price is crazy. HOWEVER, I can see the appeal from a serious collectors POV and moreover, I could imagine it would work a treat in a well selected set of crossover/mid tempo's etc.

Who are the lucky few to have this - or is it not an issues to be discussed?

Mid tempo!!?

[Marc Forrest]

Mid tempo!!?

all depends on one mans fitness...one mans midtempo is another mans uptempo storm lol

[Tailormade Gaz B]

I've had reservations and cold sweats at the thought of writing this but i've plucked up the courage....

*I don't like it*.....

As a stand alone record its average, and the price is crazy. HOWEVER, I can see the appeal from a serious collectors POV and moreover, I could imagine it would work a treat in a well selected set of crossover/mid tempo's etc.

Who are the lucky few to have this - or is it not an issues to be discussed?

Amended ;)

it's not so bad actually . I guess its what you get for the price that has marred my view and possibly my ear somewhat.

I suspect it was my good friend Liam who played me a clip sometime back and told me it was 'about' £3,000 to which my reply was...'no chance'.

atb,

Gary.

Edited August 24, 2012 by TailorMade Gaz B

[Dave Pinch]

Good point! How many are out there now?

about 500......they just havent been found ..yet

[Russ Vickers]

I've had reservations and cold sweats at the thought of writing this but i've plucked up the courage....

*I don't like it*.....

As a stand alone record its average, and the price is crazy. HOWEVER, I can see the appeal from a serious collectors POV and moreover, I could imagine it would work a treat in a well selected set of crossover/mid tempo's etc.

Who are the lucky few to have this - or is it not an issues to be discussed?

Right this isnt a 'bashing' BTW, you are entitled to your opinion.....this is just my opinion, absolute superlative Northern Soul. How the heck did Crossover come into this, its a full on Northern Soul nuclear missile....if I had the dosh I would buy this immediatly, its sheer class, another Rob Marriot stonker !!!. If anyone can name me a record under 500 UKP as good as this, in the same ball park musically, tell me cos I'll bite your arm off....

Russ

Best Russ

[Chalky]

Mid tempo!!?

Crossover

[Russ Vickers]

Unless yopu've been living in a cave for the last 17 years or more then everyone should know this by now, but just in case...if this had been played at any of the Golden Era Nighters it would now be the top 500 Classic that it deserves to be...

[Guest ritchie]

I aint got a top ten... But this is definitely in it

[NEV]

I aint got a top ten... But this is definitely in it

Whats the other 9 then Ritchie

[sepia]

i posted before that my mate gasher on here spoke to manager of band & bought a copy off him.gasher already had a copy,so he had eh 2,lol.

if i remember right.the manager said to him that 100 was pressed????.50 went out band members/family/friends.the other 50 got chucked as he was behind on office rent & everything in office was skipped.

save yourself thousands & buy this.as a close 2nd.

Edited August 25, 2012 by sepia

[Chalky]

Didn't Gasher get one same time as Rob Marriott? Three came over to Tim Brown from I presume Martin Koppell, 1992.

[Markw]

Unless yopu've been living in a cave for the last 17 years or more then everyone should know this by now, but just in case...if this had been played at any of the Golden Era Nighters it would now be the top 500 Classic that it deserves to be...

I agree Russ.

[NEV]

i posted before that my mate gasher on here spoke to manager of band & bought a copy off him.gasher already had a copy,so he had eh 2,lol.

if i remember right.the manager said to him that 100 was pressed????.50 went out band members/family/friends.the other 50 got chucked as he was behind on office rent & everything in office was skipped.

save yourself thousands & buy this.as a close 2nd.

Not a bad example of alternate records ..but in the CRAZY world of rare soul collecting ..nothing ever substitutes the real deal ..no matter how hard we try to convince ourselves

[Russ Vickers]

i posted before that my mate gasher on here spoke to manager of band & bought a copy off him.gasher already had a copy,so he had eh 2,lol.

if i remember right.the manager said to him that 100 was pressed????.50 went out band members/family/friends.the other 50 got chucked as he was behind on office rent & everything in office was skipped.

save yourself thousands & buy this.as a close 2nd.

Never realised just how similar these 2 discs are, both brilliant BTW, but the rareity of Soul Incorporated does add a little mystique, even if only by the fact you rarely get to hear it out....one of those discs to travel for IMHO.

Russ

[sepia]

just had to travel 1 mile to hear it last week.keith money djn in dundee,lol.

and same again when gasher played it @ our soul nights in aberdeen.

but did have to travel 140miles many moons ago to hear in edinburgh,lol

[Russ Vickers]

just had to travel 1 mile to hear it last week.keith money djn in dundee,lol.

and same again when gasher played it @ our soul nights in aberdeen.

but did have to travel 140miles many moons ago to hear in edinburgh,lol

Im quite lucky too, as a copy resides less than a mile from my home when Im in the UK, but ya know what I mean.

Best Russ

[Guest Bearsy]

i posted before that my mate gasher on here spoke to manager of band & bought a copy off him.gasher already had a copy,so he had eh 2,lol.

if i remember right.the manager said to him that 100 was pressed????.50 went out band members/family/friends.the other 50 got chucked as he was behind on office rent & everything in office was skipped.

save yourself thousands & buy this.as a close 2nd.

i have played this after My Proposal they do go so well togehter

and just to add that the first time i heard this and My proposal was on a CD that Dave Abbott gave me about 6 years ago so thanks to Dave a man with quality taste

Edited August 25, 2012 by Bearsy

[NEV]

Im quite lucky too, as a copy resides less than a mile from my home when Im in the UK, but ya know what I mean.

Best Russ

Basically its a tried and tested,well established ,played out oldie now Russ ..hence the high price and demand

[Guest Bearsy]

Im quite lucky too, as a copy resides less than a mile from my home when Im in the UK, but ya know what I mean.

Best Russ

and another only 10 miles up the road too Russ

[Guest Bearsy]

Basically its a tried and tested,well established ,played out oldie now Russ ..hence the high price and demand

:lol:

[Russ Vickers]

Basically its a tried and tested,well established ,played out oldie now Russ ..hence the high price and demand

[Bridgesoceity]

i posted before that my mate gasher on here spoke to manager of band & bought a copy off him.gasher already had a copy,so he had eh 2,lol.

if i remember right.the manager said to him that 100 was pressed????.50 went out band members/family/friends.the other 50 got chucked as he was behind on office rent & everything in office was skipped.

save yourself thousands & buy this.as a close 2nd.

bought this blind as the seller described it as similar to Soul Inc....spoooky

[Marc Forrest]

being the unquestioned fabulous record ernie & ed is, I cant see any similarity in it to soul inc. other than that the lyrics are on about a similar subject. the beat and melody is much more fitting in with ree flores LIMH and thats why choosed to play it more than once before or after ree flores ... what does this all has got to with the rarity of this coconut groove 45 ? I dont know LOL !

[Milliontearsoul]

Who' s the lead vocal on my proposal.......does anyone know ?

[Agentsmith]

just had to travel 1 mile to hear it last week.keith money djn in dundee,lol.

and same again when gasher played it @ our soul nights in aberdeen.

but did have to travel 140miles many moons ago to hear in edinburgh,lol

correct about kieth, but his copy was originally purchased from kenny burrell and prior to that, the same copy belonged to one,simon soussan

[sepia]

correct about kieth, but his copy was originally purchased from kenny burrell and prior to that, the same copy belonged to one,simon soussan

i could be wrong.but im sure keith was playing this a long time before he was friends with burrell.i will ask him next time i see him.

[Ted Massey]

Keith has had it a long time, dont waht the fuss is about its a pop record i like it thou

[Markw]

Who' s the lead vocal on my proposal.......does anyone know ?

Cecil Washington?

[Mike]

can remember keith over the mike giving what was almost a lecture type intro on the story behind this 45 at a chill session at a weekender

i'd say deserved credit goes to mr flynn for making it a csc 'anthem' at turn of century

and still have to smile at the "whats going on here" memory when once heard 3 djs play it various rooms at one same allnighter

[boba]

I think a bunch of DJ's copies of this came out from michigan rock collectors who were willing to break up their 3-record label run for the price of the northern market.

[sepia]

Cecil Washington?

this question has been asked so many times but no true answer yet.

gasher should of asked the band manager.

it does sound like him.

[Markw]

can remember keith over the mike giving what was almost a lecture type intro on the story behind this 45 at a chill session at a weekender

i'd say deserved credit goes to mr flynn for making it a csc 'anthem' at turn of century

and still have to smile at the "whats going on here" memory when once heard 3 djs play it various rooms at one same allnighter

Indeed. I will always associate this record with Dave, Capitol Soul Club and those fantastic nights at the Dome.

[Alan T]

Cecil Washington joined this site a few years ago.

His quote "Only very recently did I become aware that "My Proposal" had so well received. I wrote it but also helped with singing it. My voice is the one that comes in with the harmony"

[sepia]

thanks alan,i missed that.

i can sleep well tonight now,lol.

[Prophonics 2029]

Thought we did a count a while back and got to about 10 ish.

Cecils new record what step forward from wigan.

First play was Dave on the radio just before or at the time he started frightening us at the dome.

[Chalky]

I can't believe anyone would have believed it is Cecil singing lead, he sounds white and nothing like Cecil. As Cecil himself said he is part of the harmony.

I guess Flynny does deserve credit to bringing it to a new audience but it was massive some ten years earlier, give or take a year or two.