Looks like Blackpool Gazette is first out of the starting blocks, struggling hack claiming people "danced until dawn" at the Highland rooms!

 

https://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/what-s-on/music-dance/film-back-at-spiritual-home-1-6899566

 

Essex Chronicle does a bit better.

 

https://www.essexchronicle.co.uk/Film-review-Northern-Soul/story-23206313-detail/story.html

 

Please guys, if you post your own review, try to keep it positive. It's a film, not a documentary, don't break my heart. For some reason I want it to be OK, that'll do me.

I find myself with an emotional investment in this bloody thing for some unknown reason. I can't see the film until the dvd arrives from Amazon, so be gentle.

Just wondering.

From what I can gather from what's been said on here a lot of the dance scenes shot have been cut?

So with the film been a success (I assuming with it showing in 100+ cinemas that would class as a success) would it be possible to write a story line that is less dark & more dance/records/travelling/friendship based story & utilize all that footage & explore parts of the scene not focussed on in the film...........Northern Soul II....the happy days

I have no knowledge of if this would be possible or even if all concerned would want to??

Just a thought?

Cheers

Martyn

 

In the film he's just doing his O levels, so I assume he's 16? Seven years later he's 23, Wigan has closed and he's been DJing there at the tail end discovering some new sounds. After Wigan he starts his own club in a nightclub in the midlands...

 

That's someone's next project surely? I was chatting to Daz Morris on Facebook earlier and we both said it must be now time for an 80s film?

Edited October 20, 201410 yr by Matt Male

the majority of dancing was in a youthclub which is a shame...,more clips of the 'casino' would have been more effective,,also a lot of repeats on the sound track

Just thought I would start a separate thread where we could argue about the finer points that were both spot on, and or not as we remembered them in the Norther Soul film.

 

This is not meant to be a criticism in any way. In fact the more I think about trying to present an historical time capsule on film, the more I am impressed by how well Elaine managed it.

 

Here's a few things that got me thinking: Did anyone use the expression "cheers" as a thank you in the seventies? I thought that was a current trend myself?

 

Did we really use the "F" word so much back then? or did I live a sheltered life? I can recall that when I first left school I worked in a factory that made overalls. [mainly ladies and mainly for the large catalogue industry. Remember everyone bought their cloths from a catalogue in those days and paid weekly.] Anyway 95% of the workforce was female and in those days ladies didn't swear, so I always remember lots of expressions like: blumming eck, flippin' eck etc. A few years later I got a job working in an all male environment, and the difference in language actually shocked me. Mind you, by the end of the first week I was swearing like a f***ing trooper. 

 

The two main things that made me think.

1. Was there really so many guys with tattoos in the 70's? I didn't know anyone who had tatts back then.

2. I can't remember anyone wearing earrings back then. In fact if you had gone out round our way wearing one, you would have been lucky to survive the night as you would have been perceived as a girl, or a queer.

 

Like I said, not a criticism in any shape or form. Please feel free to reminisce.  

 

First job on leaving school and waiting to go into RAF was in a small factory. I was seventeen at the time. Production was mainly men, assembly was women. Believe me I came out of the assembly room blushing from head to toe on more than one occasion! Favourite thing was to try and de-bag young lads and the innuendo was mind blowing..

Tattoos weren't as prevalent as today but they were certainly around at the time. Lots of my friends in the forces had them, plenty of black fists, record labels and pharmaceutical companies on display at WC from '73 on.

I had an ear ring - many of my friends had them. Seem to remember them being pretty common in 1974. Only thing was to have the left ear pierced. Right ear intimated you were gay, or so we believed at the time.

Re the tattoos I know that Taffy was consulted on the authentic tats for the film and that loads around our way had them, obviously still do lol, and many were Northern Soul related (KTF, Northern Soul, Ric Tic etc etc ). 

Most 'Tats' I remember were DIY.......

Indian ink and a compass

Just thought I would start a separate thread where we could argue about the finer points that were both spot on, and or not as we remembered them in the Norther Soul film.

 

This is not meant to be a criticism in any way. In fact the more I think about trying to present an historical time capsule on film, the more I am impressed by how well Elaine managed it.

 

Here's a few things that got me thinking: Did anyone use the expression "cheers" as a thank you in the seventies? I thought that was a current trend myself?

 

Did we really use the "F" word so much back then? or did I live a sheltered life? I can recall that when I first left school I worked in a factory that made overalls. [mainly ladies and mainly for the large catalogue industry. Remember everyone bought their cloths from a catalogue in those days and paid weekly.] Anyway 95% of the workforce was female and in those days ladies didn't swear, so I always remember lots of expressions like: blumming eck, flippin' eck etc. A few years later I got a job working in an all male environment, and the difference in language actually shocked me. Mind you, by the end of the first week I was swearing like a f***ing trooper. 

 

The two main things that made me think.

1. Was there really so many guys with tattoos in the 70's? I didn't know anyone who had tatts back then.

2. I can't remember anyone wearing earrings back then. In fact if you had gone out round our way wearing one, you would have been lucky to survive the night as you would have been perceived as a girl, or a queer.

 

Like I said, not a criticism in any shape or form. Please feel free to reminisce.

 

Don't know how old you are Phil, I'm 54, in answer to some of your points:

yes we did swear that much, I left school and worked in a factory (all men) and the language shocked me even if we all swore already.

Don't remember really using the expression cheers until emails came in

People did have tattoos but they were usually the old type like swallows etc, I got my first at 18

I had my ear pierced when I was 16 and had 5 earings when Wigan closed, they were de rigeur round here.

The 3 day weekend Box Office figures reported in Screen Daily today (UK Film Trade Publication) show that Northern Soul broke the all time record for a film with under 100 cinemas on its opening weekend. Although that Turtle film and other Hollywood hype with all of the publicity and shiny multiplexes (over 300 theatres per film) did better, basically this was the film of the weekend according to Screen. 10th biggest film this weekend and not all cinemas showing it had even reported their figures yet.

 

Congratulations Elaine and everyone involved.

I'm 59 mate.

 

But starting to look like I really did live a sheltered life up here in the sticks. I did have a very strict upbringing, my dad was Polish, and I was lucky in that some of my mates with Polish parents had to go to a Polish school on a Sunday after church. They had to learn how to speak, read and write the language. Whereas me and my sister refused to do it.

 

My mum was English so it was a bit like the movie "East is East" in our house, with my dad trying to get me and my sister to go to church and obey his strict regime. Meanwhile my sister who was the wild and rebellious teenager was wearing mini skirts and going out to nightclubs at 13 years old. Mum would try and stick up for her and there were always massive rows going on every weekend.

 

I hated all the agro and the atmosphere which you could cut like a knife. 

The attention to detail was in my opinion was spot on, as with any period drama. Well done to Elaine and her team for doing this, what ever your opinions on the film itself it is a million times better than any of the cringe worthy documentaries about the scene that have been on television over the years. Even my youngest son who is 24 and has never shown any interest in the music despite growing up with both his parents into the music, said it was great and could see why his mom and dad were into it and still go to allnighters.

Without giving too much away and for what its worth I loved it, thought it was an excellent gritty Brit film that covered all the aspects of the scene well and many of the characters were composites of many we have all known over the years. I know the drug side has been an issue for some however  Elaine has already stated elsewhere this is her experiences and memories of the scene and for me much rang true. Overall as an experience the film hit all the right spots. This was a Scorsese Goodfellas compared to the High School Musical that was Soul Boy. Polar opposites. Many funny moments, many many areas that rang oh so true, and I think that is true for everyone, and yes ending was abrupt but overall its a triumph for Elaine. ( I loved the fact that Ray H is so obviously based on Mr Sixties Newie Guy Hennigan!)  Just not letting my kids watch it yet, might be too many questions being asked!!!

have not seen it yet ,got to be over 18 to get in,hope so  billy

I guess all these things depend on where you were, who you hung about with and what sticks in your memory.
 

I moved down South to Southampton to go to work in 1971 which was where I first heard "Cheers" for "Thanks". Never heard it before then.

 

The 'F' word was very common when groups of lads were together but rarely used in the company of girls.

 

Tatts were about but not as prevalent as today. Don't recall anyone looking like a 'comic book' like the drug dealer in the film. Only real hard cases would have had them on their necks or faces.

 

The film, of course, is really a collection of a lot of memories jumbled together so maybe not factual for one particular year but a conglomeration. In fact, it's difficult to determine the timeframe of the film - is it 1974 or is it the 70s in general? The chronology of the records is very jumbled  but is, of course, a good representation of Northern Soul. Even the nod to John Anderson and Soul Bowl is slightly flawed as for most of 1974 it was 'Groove City'. Certainly true that you had to phone up to get the best records and you were very lucky if you got through early enough.

I, m 58 early seventies I had tattoo's as Pete said swallows I swore like a ttrooper and wore two rings in my left ear the scene back then was subversive anarchic and bordering on outlaw

really sad to see this film flooding the internet download sites wish the would just buy the film. £9 on Amazon cheap skates feel sorry for all the people involved with the film 

( I loved the fact that Ray H is so obviously based on Mr Sixties Newie Guy Hennigan!)  

 

Yes, such a cool Character - and I ain't biased as I've never actually spoken to the man himself.

 

Len  

Edited October 20, 201410 yr by LEN

You must have had a sheltered life Phil, coming from a pit town council estate, we swore a lot at school and even more after starting work at the pit aged 16, the girls/women didn't swear that much though and you restricted your language round them.

Tattoos - loads of my mates had them, starting from around the age of 15. I wanted to but wimped out (been glad I did ever since)

Ear piercing definitely as well, had mine done at 16/17 (left ear only)

I reckon the use of "cheers" is a more recent thing though

Indian ink and a compass

 

'Mam' ' Dad' and a Dot on each knuckle...... Dead 'Ard!. 

i really think Elaine has nailed it...the detail was as precise as it's ever gonna get when you've spent every god given hour researching for countless years. i'd like to make a pertinent observation of our characteristics as people from different counties with different dialects...and it's a behavioral one. i went, last night ( 19/10/14 ) to watch the film again, this time at the wonderful art deco majestic cinema in Bridgnorth. wanted to catch the atmosphere prior to the dvd release, as only cinema can really deliver on that. i would estimate between 100-130 people turned up to watch it, on what was it's third showing over the weekened. there were certain elements, who at various times during the screening were boisterous and noisy but on the whole enjoying it and there was a warm round of applause at the finish, though somewhat abbreviated...different strokes?...having attended the premier at Blackburn some 3 weeks ago now, i reflected on the fact that, it's a film about northern folk and northern life..in a northern town. i have to say that there was a rapturous applause for Elaine when she introduced the film and throughout, the screening was observed with virtual stony silence apart from moments that were intended to encourage laughter or shock. upon conclusion, the film received a standing ovation, that's a lump in the throat and a tear in the eye stuff as far as i'm concerned personally...something i have not seccumbed to since the funk brothers documentary. it therefore.would be interesting to hear what people's reactions where across the u.k., not just their views of the film's credibility afterwards. 

also a lot of repeats on the sound track

 

I thought the fact that the guy kept playing 'Frankie Valli - The Night' throughout the film was to show that he was (to quote)...."A sh*t D.J"....and that he hadn't moved on compared to his mate who was taking it very seriously (achieving his goal of saving enough to go to America)

 

Len  

Edited October 20, 201410 yr by LEN

I was waiting for a reaction from the audience last night. The film was watched in silence throughout, except as you say Rob, at those moments where they were supposed to laugh or gasp. I hate it when people make a ruckus during a film.

At the end there was no round of applause, though I did think about trying to creat one. People just got up and filed out in an orderly fashion.

I heard last night that there are already pirate ' bootleg' copies of the new Northern Soul movie about .... quite an amusing little irony somewhere there, i think, considering the period in time this movie is about ?!?  Comments, please !!

Confirming what we already know that bootlegs are shameful, unethical and criminal. They deprive artists of their dues not to mention other people involved in the production. In the USA, piracy is a Federal offence and handled by the FBI - in Britain it is largely ignored by the authorities to the detriment of the music industry. Don't be a cheapskate - go out and buy the CD and the DVD.

really sad to see this film flooding the internet download sites wish the would just buy the film. £9 on Amazon cheap skates feel sorry for all the people involved with the film 

 

Said this would happen today, I purposely bought it this morning to stop any temptation of me downloading it for free tonight, which I normally would have done with any other film or tv show, I still think they have shot themselves in the foot with the straight to DVD release, after fridays review on Radio 5 and the fantastic audience figures, I'm sure they could have done another week or fortnight at the cinema, but who was to know.

Current figures on Pirate Bay are

54 people seeding (thats people who have the full film and are sharing it with others)

401 leechers (people receiving the film from other users who have the complete thing)

all this comes from one original copy being uploaded at 17:57 today, that's 400 downloads in less than 90 minutes, will be over 1000 tomorrow by the looks of it.

Confirming what we already know that bootlegs are shameful, unethical and criminal. They deprive artists of their dues not to mention other people involved in the production. In the USA, piracy is a Federal offence and handled by the FBI - in Britain it is largely ignored by the authorities to the detriment of the music industry. Don't be a cheapskate - go out and buy the CD and the DVD.

 

There's not much they can do online except block the torrent sites, and thats exactly what all the main ISP's have done, if you are on Sky or BT etc try typing in Pirate bay and you will get a message saying it is blocked.  However, type in the same with the word Proxy added and you'll find a dozen or more back ways in.

Yes, such a cool Character - and I ain't biased as I've never actually spoken to the man himself.

 

Len  

Yeah it was deffo Guy ( a proper good bloke) with a hint of Rob Marriot I thought ;)

it is so bloody shameful...people who simply have no conscience...dosn't matter what sort of product though anyway.....the internet was deemed a wonder, that also is demonized because of the dark corners people create with it...the good the bad and the truly ugly...perhaps our film industry had an agenda even?.....perhaps they didn't want it to succeed, because like the media, they've never understood what it's all about, so they want to stick the knife in wherever they can...a bunch of childish tossers minus genuine grey matter...i know i'm summizing but somebody has to be held to account for an act of gross betrayal of the principle that a film should be allowed it's due on the big screen...EXACTLY WHERE IT'S MEANT TO BE......they obviously thought it wouldn't do much at the box office, and it's shut those miserable f***in b******s up so the next spoiler is to do exactly what they've done...and on top of that, a multi million bunch of freebie lovers with tight wallets are robbing the people responsible for all the hard work of their dues.

Said this would happen today, I purposely bought it this morning to stop any temptation of me downloading it for free tonight, which I normally would have done with any other film or tv show, I still think they have shot themselves in the foot with the straight to DVD release, after fridays review on Radio 5 and the fantastic audience figures, I'm sure they could have done another week or fortnight at the cinema, but who was to know.

Current figures on Pirate Bay are

54 people seeding (thats people who have the full film and are sharing it with others)

401 leechers (people receiving the film from other users who have the complete thing)

all this comes from one original copy being uploaded at 17:57 today, that's 400 downloads in less than 90 minutes, will be over 1000 tomorrow by the looks of it.

 

 

they have done well to keep the sound track off the download site but with the film going well im sure it wont be long but 5 weeks and not seen it on the lists at work, would like to off seen the interview and memorabilia searling still had.not into compilation cds but only way to see the interviews 

Not seen film yet but...

 

From memory most tat's were home-made (mainly prison/borstal) and the odd traditional swallow as has been said. Definitely can't remember any professional ones other than the forces types.

 

"Cheers (big ears)" was pretty common at my school, but being Lancashire it was more likely a straight "Ta".

 

Earring, left ear only, and in 73/4 usually only one.

 

I lived on a large housing estate and it was virtually compulsary to swear from the age of about ten, just to show that you were fuckin' ard. C**t though, was reserved for special occasions and would quite often precede a fight. Only when I moved to London did I hear it used as a term of endearment.

 

Can't wait to see the bloody thing :-)

Yeah it was deffo Guy ( a proper good bloke) with a hint of Rob Marriot I thought ;)

 

Hence 'touching on all eras' mate.

 

Before the film, I stated that I'd watched some of the actors dancing, 'feeling the music', and that it had made me wince slightly because I knew they were only acting...I didn't exactly know what to expect from the film - but what I got I did not expect at all! That character with all the Tats that died in the car was amazing. As someone pointed out earlier, all the characters were of people all of us can relate to (no matter what era we came into it)

 

It was a timeless story, and am proud that one of all of us friends has achieved this.

 

'Marvin Gaye - This Love Starved Heart Of Mine' in the film doesn't take anything away from what it was about!

 

I'm still thinking about it today.

 

Len  

 

P.s - One day I may actually meet Guy Hennigan (Most of my friends know him) and I'm sure I'll say something stupid like...."Great to meet you Ray Henderson - I've seen all your films!"......... (Being someone I respect) I also have a tape of him from Radio 2 that I played 'on lope' for a long time in my car.

Edited October 20, 201410 yr by LEN

Said this would happen today, I purposely bought it this morning to stop any temptation of me downloading it for free tonight, which I normally would have done with any other film or tv show, I still think they have shot themselves in the foot with the straight to DVD release, after fridays review on Radio 5 and the fantastic audience figures, I'm sure they could have done another week or fortnight at the cinema, but who was to know.

Current figures on Pirate Bay are

54 people seeding (thats people who have the full film and are sharing it with others)

401 leechers (people receiving the film from other users who have the complete thing)

all this comes from one original copy being uploaded at 17:57 today, that's 400 downloads in less than 90 minutes, will be over 1000 tomorrow by the looks of it.

 

Shocking. I simply have never understood the 'small-window' strategy. I said from the word go that this could have taken £3-5,000,000 over an extended cinema run with the right marketing. The fact that it was the 10th most-viewed film in the UK this weekend on a sample of just 70 screens with zero Marketing, tends to underline my point. It's already set the British record for the most-viewed film on the least amount of screens over it's first weekend and the DVD is the best-selling DVD in the UK as of now. I'm wondering whether the penny is beginning to drop yet..........

 

Ian D 

Edited October 20, 201410 yr by Ian Dewhirst

they have done well to keep the sound track off the download site but with the film going well im sure it wont be long but 5 weeks and not seen it on the lists at work, would like to off seen the interview and memorabilia searling still had.not into compilation cds but only way to see the interviews 

 

We watch for the stuff and then zap 'em down regularly. It's a pain in the ass and time-consuming but you have to preserve your copyright if possible.

 

Ian D 

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Paul

Edited October 20, 201410 yr by Paul r

Shocking. I simply have never understood the 'small-window' strategy. I said from the word go that this could have taken £3-5,000,000 over an extended cinema run with the right marketing. The fact that it was the 10th most-viewed film in the UK this weekend on a sample of just 70 screens with zero Marketing, tends to underline my point. It's already set the British record for the most-viewed film on the least amount of screens over it's first weekend and the DVD is the best-selling DVD in the UK as of now. I'm wondering whether the penny is beginning to drop yet..........

 

Ian D 

tell you what ian, it makes your blood boil that so many people on this country just want an easy ride pity big brother dosn't exist to punish this crime, every single one of these low lifes are draining the energy & will of just people, like elaine who have put their own security on the line to achieve the success the film is having...perhaps it's not too late to drop on the knob heads at the top from a great height like a ton weight and go public in the criticism of how they have callously mishandled the whole affair...the only samaritan to my mind has been universal for stepping in to make the dream a reality, whilst all the other sodomites stepped aside with total disregard.....name and shame these bastards, then stand them against a wall and mercilessly shoot them all..

a few words I put to paper....

 

It started as a dream, but it wasn’t all sweet dreams.  Many sleepless nights, worries, stress and doubts were endured by Elaine and Marco.  Several years later, this weekend saw the realisation of that dream. 

 

Over 120 cinemas, many with showings sold out saw the opening of ‘Northern Soul The Film’.  I like many others ventured to the cinema to take in the film after years of expectation with us all hoping the film would live up to the hype and expectation and prove to be a success for our friends Elaine, Marco and every one involved in the making of the movie.

 

Knowing who had consulted, who had been involved, the years of preparation by the actors, learning to dance, learning the scene and what it means to those like myself who have invested the whole of their adult life (and part of their youth as well) into the greatest youth culture and dance scene this country has seen we shouldn’t really have had any doubts.

 

Now I was too young to go to all-nighters during the time this film was set but I could relate to the life depicted in the film.   The lighting was on the dark side, but I thought it captured the time and life in those times pretty much as it was for those living in tough working class industrial towns and villages in the north, it’s grim up north as they say.

 

The story itself held no surprises but the film depicted something we can relate to.  A young lad, doesn’t quite fit in at school, fed up with school and  bit of a loner, fed up with what is considered his lot until almost forced to visit the local youth club by his mother.  Here he was to discover Northern Soul and so begin a journey many of us can relate to, not just the music but the life that went with it.  “A way of life’ used by many, derided by many but to a certain extent it was true.  Working in tough boring jobs, many with no prospects or future, all many of us had to look forward to was the weekend when we could escape with the music and mates from all over the country and many of us with the same dream of going to America to find our own ‘cover ups’ as the stars in the film had!

 

The music was everything, and to hear Lester Tipton follow the news on BBC Radio, Duke Browner (I almost clapped myself), The Tomangoes, Salvadors, Eddie Parker, Luther Ingram, Towanda Barnes, Freddie Chavez, Vel-Vets, Lou Pride and many more belting out over a large cinema screen was nothing short of amazing especially one of my all time favourite records “The Originals’ and ‘Suspicion”.  Whilst I’ve heard them many times, some too many, to hear them in this setting and to see the attention they are getting all over the country is something I thought I would never see.  Once upon a time it was something I never wanted to see, I wanted to keep the scene to ourselves, underground and away from the masses but with an aging group of support some young blood is needed to keep it going and if this film gets some more youngsters involved who take to it like we did years ago then that is no bad thing.  Sure tourists will, no doubt come along, just as they did back in the 70’s but they will disappear as quick as they turned up.

 

The detail in the film was amazing and it is this that made the film the success it is.  Elaine not only captured the time that many can remember and relate to, the clothing was as close as you are going to get.  As a mate said if those who wear today what they think they wore back then, then they should watch this film and see what was really worn.  I can remember my first pair of Solatios, from a small cobblers/shoe shop in Brimington near Chesterfield, seeing them, in the window, pestering me mother till she gave in then spending ages hammering the segs in, you could hear me a mile away!

 

I really was extremely impressed how close Elaine and the crew had got this film so close to how it was at the time.  Yes we could all pick a few faults, an error or two in the continuity, the odd track or two that weren’t really from the time in question but as a film, as a sound track it all flowed effortlessly.  Some complained about the drug element but they were part of every sub culture and were there.  Many who I have the utmost respect for, who were there at the time and earlier have said that the film got it spot on.  They could actually put a real person to those portrayed in the film, even shedding the odd tear for times and mates a long time gone from this world.  Was lovely to see the nod to Pete Lawson, one who for him his life, he lived breathed and died Northern Soul, much missed by many.  Also the lovely tribute to Fran who put so much into the film but sadly passed away not too long ago before seeing the film on the big screen.

 

A nod must go to the actors and young dancers who having begun with no knowledge of the scene, no idea what it was and not to mention not having a clue about the dancing.  With the help of several who do know a move or two, dozens of ‘lessons’, nights out to ‘proper’ soul nights and nighters they nailed it, they are better dancers than some seasoned scene veterans.  They really did look the part, well done to all involved.

I thought it would be hard to remain objective from something I have invested so much time into, also because those involved with the making I consider friends and I was afraid I would be over critical and pick parts of the film apart but I am really pleased to say that I really enjoyed the film, I was sat their with a big smile on my face knowing I could relate to everything that was on the screen and knowing I have been part of something special since my mid teens. 

 

The plot, the music, the attention to detail, you can see why it made joint film of the week on what I consider the best film review show out there, Kermode and Mayo’s Film Review aka Wittertainment.  Four Stars in the Times and rave reviews in many other papers, magazines and shows.  Elaine can be proud of what she has achieved, a fabulous tribute to the best underground music scene this country has seen. 

Well done Elaine and everyone involved, you can be immensely proud to have created something so special, only someone involved in the scene like Elaine is can have got this so right.  I am now looking forward to getting home at the weekend and watching the DVD!

Edited October 20, 201410 yr by chalky

tell you what ian, it makes your blood boil that so many people on this country just want an easy ride pity big brother dosn't exist to punish this crime, every single one of these low lifes are draining the energy & will of just people, like elaine who have put their own security on the line to achieve the success the film is having...perhaps it's not too late to drop on the knob heads at the top from a great height like a ton weight and go public in the criticism of how they have callously mishandled the whole affair...the only samaritan to my mind has been universal for stepping in to make the dream a reality, whilst all the other sodomites stepped aside with total disregard.....name and shame these bastards, then stand them against a wall and mercilessly shoot them all..

 

Sorry Rob but who are we talking about here, I think I might be missing the point, do you mean the film distributors?

Edited October 20, 201410 yr by Pete S

Just watched the film enjoyed but to much about drugs and same records always played did Wigan cleethorpes notts pallia in the early 70s but enjoy myself more these days

a few words I put to paper....

 

It started as a dream, but it wasn’t all sweet dreams.  Many sleepless nights, worries, stress and doubts were endured by Elaine and Marco.  Several years later, this weekend saw the realisation of that dream. 

 

Over 120 cinemas, many with showings sold out saw the opening of ‘Northern Soul The Film’.  I like many others ventured to the cinema to take in the film after years of expectation with us all hoping the film would live up to the hype and expectation and prove to be a success for our friends Elaine, Marco and every one involved in the making of the movie.

 

Knowing who had consulted, who had been involved, the years of preparation by the actors, learning to dance, learning the scene and what it means to those like myself who have invested the whole of their adult life (and part of their youth as well) into the greatest youth culture and dance scene this country has seen we shouldn’t really have had any doubts.

 

Now I was too young to go to all-nighters during the time this film was set but I could relate to the life depicted in the film.   The lighting was on the dark side, but I thought it captured the time and life in those times pretty much as it was for those living in tough working class industrial towns and villages in the north, it’s grim up north as they say.

 

The story itself held no surprises but the film depicted something we can relate to.  A young lad, doesn’t quite fit in at school, fed up with school and  bit of a loner, fed up with what is considered his lot until almost forced to visit the local youth club by his mother.  Here he was to discover Northern Soul and so begin a journey many of us can relate to, not just the music but the life that went with it.  “A way of life’ used by many, derided by many but to a certain extent it was true.  Working in tough boring jobs, many with no prospects or future, all many of us had to look forward to was the weekend when we could escape with the music and mates from all over the country and many of us with the same dream of going to America to find our own ‘cover ups’ as the stars in the film had!

 

The music was everything, and to hear Lester Tipton follow the news on BBC Radio, Duke Browner (I almost clapped myself), The Tomangoes, Salvadors, Eddie Parker, Luther Ingram, Towanda Barnes, Freddie Chavez, Vel-Vets, Lou Pride and many more belting out over a large cinema screen was nothing short of amazing especially one of my all time favourite records “The Originals’ and ‘Suspicion”.  Whilst I’ve heard them many times, some too many, to hear them in this setting and to see the attention they are getting all over the country is something I thought I would never see.  Once upon a time it was something I never wanted to see, I wanted to keep the scene to ourselves, underground and away from the masses but with an aging group of support some young blood is needed to keep it going and if this film gets some more youngsters involved who take to it like we did years ago then that is no bad thing.  Sure tourists will, no doubt come along, just as they did back in the 70’s but they will disappear as quick as they turned up.

 

The detail in the film was amazing and it is this that made the film the success it is.  Elaine not only captured the time that many can remember and relate to, the clothing was as close as you are going to get.  As a mate said if those who wear today what they think they wore back then, then they should watch this film and see what was really worn.  I can remember my first pair of Solatios, from a small cobblers/shoe shop in Brimington near Chesterfield, seeing them, in the window, pestering me mother till she gave in then spending ages hammering the segs in, you could hear me a mile away!

 

I really was extremely impressed how close Elaine and the crew had got this film so close to how it was at the time.  Yes we could all pick a few faults, an error or two in the continuity, the odd track or two that weren’t really from the time in question but as a film, as a sound track it all flowed effortlessly.  Some complained about the drug element but they were part of every sub culture and were there.  Many who I have the utmost respect for, who were there at the time and earlier have said that the film got it spot on.  They could actually put a real person to those portrayed in the film, even shedding the odd tear for times and mates a long time gone from this world.  Was lovely to see the nod to Pete Lawson, one who for him his life, he lived breathed and died Northern Soul, much missed by many.  Also the lovely tribute to Fran who put so much into the film but sadly passed away not too long ago before seeing the film on the big screen.

 

A nod must go to the actors and young dancers who having begun with no knowledge of the scene, no idea what it was and not to mention not having a clue about the dancing.  With the help of several who do know a move or two, dozens of ‘lessons’, nights out to ‘proper’ soul nights and nighters they nailed it, they are better dancers than some seasoned scene veterans.  They really did look the part, well done to all involved.

I thought it would be hard to remain objective from something I have invested so much time into, also because those involved with the making I consider friends and I was afraid I would be over critical and pick parts of the film apart but I am really pleased to say that I really enjoyed the film, I was sat their with a big smile on my face knowing I could relate to everything that was on the screen and knowing I have been part of something special since my mid teens. 

 

The plot, the music, the attention to detail, you can see why it made joint film of the week on what I consider the best film review show out there, Kermode and Mayo’s Film Review aka Wittertainment.  Four Stars in the Times and rave reviews in many other papers, magazines and shows.  Elaine can be proud of what she has achieved, a fabulous tribute to the best underground music scene this country has seen. 

Well done Elaine and everyone involved, you can be immensely proud to have created something so special, only someone involved in the scene like Elaine is can have got this so right.  I am now looking forward to getting home at the weekend and watching the DVD!

 

Good work Chalky 

Just watched the dvd .

 

As with all of us on here, been waiting for this for years... 

Having been a regular at Wigan for the final years, and also in the 90s when it was underground, I saw an advert asking for 60s cars to be part of the film a few years back. 

 

being an owner of a karmann ghia , i jumped at the chance , and ended up spending 2 days filming at Bury.  that was the most fantastic experience in itself    

 

just watched the film and this is my take.

 

was totally transported to the era. Could touch it, feel it, smell it, the young guy finding his way in life, with the guidance of the older lads, be it good or bad.  the passion.. intensity.. nothing else mattered . its all pretty fecked up when you look back but wouldn't change a thing..  Bought a tear to my eye, a warm glow, the story line didnt really matter, but being transported into an era that could never come back meant so much.. 

those days could never be recreated, but the film captures the time superbly . 

Probably the best youth culture film ever made...

 

 

a few words I put to paper....

 

It started as a dream, but it wasn’t all sweet dreams.  Many sleepless nights, worries, stress and doubts were endured by Elaine and Marco.  Several years later, this weekend saw the realisation of that dream. 

 

Over 120 cinemas, many with showings sold out saw the opening of ‘Northern Soul The Film’.  I like many others ventured to the cinema to take in the film after years of expectation with us all hoping the film would live up to the hype and expectation and prove to be a success for our friends Elaine, Marco and every one involved in the making of the movie.

 

Knowing who had consulted, who had been involved, the years of preparation by the actors, learning to dance, learning the scene and what it means to those like myself who have invested the whole of their adult life (and part of their youth as well) into the greatest youth culture and dance scene this country has seen we shouldn’t really have had any doubts.

 

Now I was too young to go to all-nighters during the time this film was set but I could relate to the life depicted in the film.   The lighting was on the dark side, but I thought it captured the time and life in those times pretty much as it was for those living in tough working class industrial towns and villages in the north, it’s grim up north as they say.

 

The story itself held no surprises but the film depicted something we can relate to.  A young lad, doesn’t quite fit in at school, fed up with school and  bit of a loner, fed up with what is considered his lot until almost forced to visit the local youth club by his mother.  Here he was to discover Northern Soul and so begin a journey many of us can relate to, not just the music but the life that went with it.  “A way of life’ used by many, derided by many but to a certain extent it was true.  Working in tough boring jobs, many with no prospects or future, all many of us had to look forward to was the weekend when we could escape with the music and mates from all over the country and many of us with the same dream of going to America to find our own ‘cover ups’ as the stars in the film had!

 

The music was everything, and to hear Lester Tipton follow the news on BBC Radio, Duke Browner (I almost clapped myself), The Tomangoes, Salvadors, Eddie Parker, Luther Ingram, Towanda Barnes, Freddie Chavez, Vel-Vets, Lou Pride and many more belting out over a large cinema screen was nothing short of amazing especially one of my all time favourite records “The Originals’ and ‘Suspicion”.  Whilst I’ve heard them many times, some too many, to hear them in this setting and to see the attention they are getting all over the country is something I thought I would never see.  Once upon a time it was something I never wanted to see, I wanted to keep the scene to ourselves, underground and away from the masses but with an aging group of support some young blood is needed to keep it going and if this film gets some more youngsters involved who take to it like we did years ago then that is no bad thing.  Sure tourists will, no doubt come along, just as they did back in the 70’s but they will disappear as quick as they turned up.

 

The detail in the film was amazing and it is this that made the film the success it is.  Elaine not only captured the time that many can remember and relate to, the clothing was as close as you are going to get.  As a mate said if those who wear today what they think they wore back then, then they should watch this film and see what was really worn.  I can remember my first pair of Solatios, from a small cobblers/shoe shop in Brimington near Chesterfield, seeing them, in the window, pestering me mother till she gave in then spending ages hammering the segs in, you could hear me a mile away!

 

I really was extremely impressed how close Elaine and the crew had got this film so close to how it was at the time.  Yes we could all pick a few faults, an error or two in the continuity, the odd track or two that weren’t really from the time in question but as a film, as a sound track it all flowed effortlessly.  Some complained about the drug element but they were part of every sub culture and were there.  Many who I have the utmost respect for, who were there at the time and earlier have said that the film got it spot on.  They could actually put a real person to those portrayed in the film, even shedding the odd tear for times and mates a long time gone from this world.  Was lovely to see the nod to Pete Lawson, one who for him his life, he lived breathed and died Northern Soul, much missed by many.  Also the lovely tribute to Fran who put so much into the film but sadly passed away not too long ago before seeing the film on the big screen.

 

A nod must go to the actors and young dancers who having begun with no knowledge of the scene, no idea what it was and not to mention not having a clue about the dancing.  With the help of several who do know a move or two, dozens of ‘lessons’, nights out to ‘proper’ soul nights and nighters they nailed it, they are better dancers than some seasoned scene veterans.  They really did look the part, well done to all involved.

I thought it would be hard to remain objective from something I have invested so much time into, also because those involved with the making I consider friends and I was afraid I would be over critical and pick parts of the film apart but I am really pleased to say that I really enjoyed the film, I was sat their with a big smile on my face knowing I could relate to everything that was on the screen and knowing I have been part of something special since my mid teens. 

 

The plot, the music, the attention to detail, you can see why it made joint film of the week on what I consider the best film review show out there, Kermode and Mayo’s Film Review aka Wittertainment.  Four Stars in the Times and rave reviews in many other papers, magazines and shows.  Elaine can be proud of what she has achieved, a fabulous tribute to the best underground music scene this country has seen. 

Well done Elaine and everyone involved, you can be immensely proud to have created something so special, only someone involved in the scene like Elaine is can have got this so right.  I am now looking forward to getting home at the weekend and watching the DVD!

karl, words fail me brother....you have so impressed me and almost moved me to tears...and we've only just been talking in the last half hour as well, celebrating your birthday...what a truly immense edict, wonderfully precise with poise and character...an undeniably glowing reference...you enjoyed the satisfaction as much as i did in going to see it a second time ( i was privilaged to be at the premier in blackburn ) as an aside to your comments, you'll be pleased to know, as elaine announced there, fran did see the finished product before she sadly passed away...she was so impressed...god bless her soul, god bless elaine...we entrusted our faith in her and she has delivered in the most monumental fashion.......every person who keeps the faith, loves the music, shares the brother and sisterhood that is the scene, should be eternally proud......the world of northern soul is undiminished, it is timeless and will have reverence for decades to come...the greatest subculture in living and future memory...it will never die as long as it is somebody's heart and soul......KEEP THE FAITH!.

Have just checked and there are now three separate pirates of the film up for downloading, over 1000 people downloading as I write this, and about 155 people seeding.  1000 x £7.99 down the drain...unless of course, people like it and go and buy it, but with no extras on the dvd...(why not?)

Was also thinking, if the DVD release had been put back they'd have been able to use some of the review quotes to splash over the cover, not just the "Excellent...Fantastic" quote from Ian Brown

Sorry Rob but who are we talking about here, I think I might be missing the point, do you mean the film distributors

i think i probably mean who's responsible for the marketing strategy, the distributors,universal really stepped in when no-one else showed any faith...if it's one and the same then they've shot theirselves in the foot if they thought it wouldn't conceive valuable remuneration, people in departments who simply don't understand the logic or popularity of this type of subject matter, deciding it merits a straight to dvd sale. these people obviously didn't count on or have any true awareness of just how in demand this film would be, and the subsequent ploy to get cinemas to show it, for which the response has been little short of staggering. that aside, i'm mightily impressed that such a giant of film production payed the project attention and saw it through.

Was also thinking, if the DVD release had been put back they'd have been able to use some of the review quotes to splash over the cover, not just the "Excellent...Fantastic" quote from Ian Brown

yep, that is a seriously relevant point.

Was also thinking, if the DVD release had been put back they'd have been able to use some of the review quotes to splash over the cover, not just the "Excellent...Fantastic" quote from Ian Brown

They can put them on the Director's Cut.

Ok, here's my Barry Norman bit.

I think a lot of people on here are looking for a documentary, to suit them, rather than a story. It's a tale about a boy who finds Northern Soul and follows him through the ups and downs (no pun intended) that it leads him to. The makers tried to make it look as authentic as possible, and I think they did really well. If the storyline hadn't gone down the drugs route, it would be something else that certain people couldn't relate to. Not everyone went barmy on drugs, just as not everyone found love at Wigan Casino. Certain parts at the beginning of the film really gave me goosebumps - almost like looking at myself. Good choice of music in my opinion.

Anybody seen Spike Island? Similar sort of thing, different era. I thought the Northern Soul Movie was better.

And why not . . .  

For anyone who is considering buying the DVD, the DVD itself  looks like a vinyl 45, which I thought was a nice touch.

Well that was a surprise.........when did going to the cinemas become like that,small 50 seat screens,really comfortable chairs that just scream go to sleep & with loads of leg room.Even had a couple beers while watching the film.Shows you how long it's been since I went to the "pictures"

Enjoyed the film,thought the descent into the darker side & intensity of emotions are just as I remember it.Yes you could be a little picky but why as on the whole it got most things about right..........did I spy a hand full of rather strange shaped Filon or was that just wishful thinking  

Having read the book & thought it slightly over did the drugs I was expecting it to be over done in the film but thought it was about right?

The only slight problem I can see is for those who didn't go to Wigan,my wife didn't relate to some of the more subtle Wigan references that we all take for granted?Again I'm been picky.

So a big thumbs up this end

Cheers

Martyn

   

Martin. Sounds like you where last at the pictures when I was back in 1970 something. Is it worth going to see,if I get a chance ?

Steve

Just thought I would start a separate thread where we could argue about the finer points that were both spot on, and or not as we remembered them in the Norther Soul film.

 

This is not meant to be a criticism in any way. In fact the more I think about trying to present an historical time capsule on film, the more I am impressed by how well Elaine managed it.

 

Here's a few things that got me thinking: Did anyone use the expression "cheers" as a thank you in the seventies? I thought that was a current trend myself?

 

Did we really use the "F" word so much back then? or did I live a sheltered life? I can recall that when I first left school I worked in a factory that made overalls. [mainly ladies and mainly for the large catalogue industry. Remember everyone bought their cloths from a catalogue in those days and paid weekly.] Anyway 95% of the workforce was female and in those days ladies didn't swear, so I always remember lots of expressions like: blumming eck, flippin' eck etc. A few years later I got a job working in an all male environment, and the difference in language actually shocked me. Mind you, by the end of the first week I was swearing like a f***ing trooper. 

 

The two main things that made me think.

1. Was there really so many guys with tattoos in the 70's? I didn't know anyone who had tatts back then.

2. I can't remember anyone wearing earrings back then. In fact if you had gone out round our way wearing one, you would have been lucky to survive the night as you would have been perceived as a girl, or a queer.

 

Like I said, not a criticism in any shape or form. Please feel free to reminisce.

Born and bred in one of the toughest towns in the north. Widnes. Pierced my own ear with a darning needle after melting two ice cubes on my ear to deaden it when I was fifteen. Had my first tattoo on my sixteenth birthday in 1975, also the year I first went Wigan. So yes there was ear,s pierced and tattoos about. Loads of my mates where the same.

Steve

Just watched it.Love the cockney character reminds me of Sean Adams ,Lisa Stansfields acting is terrible.The lead character is middle class!.How did Suspicion appear with all that knowledge on board.The older dj character was great.This is underground..I thought he was going to stick E.L.P on.An enjoyable Uk film only slightly better than Soulboy.