I'm posting this in here as it's more about what these two guys have to say than the actual event - hope that ok. Not bothered about ovo, and happy to play cd's and mp3s. Does anyone know them? I don't but I'm way out of everyone's loop.

 

https://www.nottinghampost.com/Riverbank-hosts-soul-pop-party-Geno-Washington/story-26591720-detail/story.html

 

Peter

 

 

 

 

Here we go, here we go, here we go.   Hope your ok Pete, Di sends her best

Here we go, here we go, here we go.   Hope your ok Pete, Di sends her best

 Just thought it was interesting - just up the road from me which is why I spotted it.

 

Great to hear from you and Di, Harry. Sending you all my love.

 

Pete

 

 

I got involved in an interesting thread on Facebook. Apparantly you can play what you want in any format as it has nothing to do with DJ credibility anymore. Think its on Rare soul talk- facebook page - Have a look.  You will see my comments under my real name Steve Eckersley.

It backs up my view the rare soul scene is Phooked as afar as Im concerned because people have selective principles meaning they select them when it suits! Or visa versa drop them when it suits!

What with the Morris Dancers vs. Northern dancers, dance lessons on Youtube, the Comedy Carpet and everything else, I'm long past caring about what goes on outside of the places I want to go. It's a different planet as far as I'm concerned, and about as inaccessible for me as well.  

 

Carry on.

Edited May 28, 20159 yr by Matt Male

I wouldn't go anywhere near it but I think it's a good thing more young people are listening to quality soul music and if this encourages some of them to progress to coming to nights where they can hear the real thing on the original format then that's great. We have to be realistic, we're a bit dinosaur like in the eyes of some young uns. I'd much prefer kids to get into the music this way than not at all.

Guy round my way plays of MP3 and CDs " Let us know what you want me to play and I,ll download it for you "  needless to say ..................................

 

 Thankfully there are still  some DJs locally that still do things the right way

I'm posting this in here as it's more about what these two guys have to say than the actual event - hope that ok. Not bothered about ovo, and happy to play cd's and mp3s. Does anyone know them? I don't but I'm way out of everyone's loop.

 

https://www.nottinghampost.com/Riverbank-hosts-soul-pop-party-Geno-Washington/story-26591720-detail/story.html

 

Peter

they sound like a pair of dickheads imo

they sound like a pair of dickheads imo

Don't hold back mate - say it how it is!

 

 

Russ involved too….rolls eyes.

Russ involved too….rolls eyes.

Must be good then Steve!

 

 

 

  

Edited May 28, 20159 yr by Peter99

I think if young people are to get into Northern Soul, all formats will be used. What young person could build up a collection of classic vinyl from nothing now? Just my humble opinion.

I'm sure everyone attending will have buckets of fun.

I think if young people are to get into Northern Soul, all formats will be used. What young person could build up a collection of classic vinyl from nothing now? Just my humble opinion.

I agree, it will be on their own terms not ours.

the last thing the music world needs is shittily made mp3 files being thrown out of piss poor speakers. 

From the article:

 

 

“I see myself firmly as part of the new generation of Northern Soul lovers,” says Ben,
 

 

That's what matters most.

 

After all, it is about the music, isn't it? 

 

Put another way, is it the stupidly priced and inaccessible bits of vinyl, owned by a select few, that's most important - or is it the musical legacy?

 

I say it's about the music… 

Edited May 29, 20159 yr by Russell Gilbert

I'd rather have someone playing first-rate Northern off a CD or mp3 than someone playing second or third rate Northern off original vinyl. Seems many care more about the music's format than the quality.

Well i say good luck to the lads,they have stated music policy regarding Vinyl ,let em do it there own way ,none of our business is it ?

 

 Bazza 

The 'glamour' of rare soul, and indeed other forms of black dance music, is that the person who doesn't invest time, effort, instinct, and I'm afraid these days more than ever, hard cash, doesn't get to display it. Of course then they have to have to have some presentation skills as well: which isn't always the case.  Why would anybody travel miles on a dark rainy night, in a dodgy rented vehicle that smells of fish, to a tawdry venue, to hear music on a disapointing sound system, if Norris from next door can own the bloody music by typing?

dean

I've never understood the disdain some people have towards digital formats.

 

We all know that vinyl played over a good sound system is the best way to listen to music, but cd and mp3 have their place and can happily co exist with vinyl. 

 

It really is all down to the music. I'd rather hear a digital version of a great track, than not hear any version at all as the rare vinyl wasn't available.

the last thing the music world needs is shittily made mp3 files being thrown out of piss poor speakers. 

 

Some mp3's are better quality than some vinyl though

Some mp3's are better quality than some vinyl though

 

relating to this situation id say its very unlikely they will sit for an hour or two mastering each individual file if they are taking this kind of shortcut to start with. 

relating to this situation id say its very unlikely they will sit for an hour or two mastering each individual file if they are taking this kind of shortcut to start with. 

 

Probably not but you never know

I hope the young folk make their own scene with their own rules,us dinosaurs should not try and dictate to them

( and anyway I don't want em spillin' beer on me blue suede shoes )   

 

 Bazza 

Probably not but you never know

 

one thing i do know is that my tinnitus sodden ear brain combo will decode one bar of music from a poor mp3 file then walk me straight back out through the door. 

 

may as well use Sonos or some similar arrangement and not pay a DJ at all. 

one thing i do know is that my tinnitus sodden ear brain combo will decode one bar of music from a poor mp3 file then walk me straight back out through the door. 

 

may as well use Sonos or some similar arrangement and not pay a DJ at all. 

 

But by the same token I've heard some sorry excuses for vinyl in my time, an mp3 would definately have been an improvemnt at times.

 

as for not payin a DJ at all, do mnay get paid....I thought it was a you scratch my back.......I'll scratch yours.  Sonos would be an improvement at times to with the lack of imagination at many venues

 

 

as for this event and events like it, they were bound to happen, have happened in the past.  Many kids have only grown up with digital formats and the cost of vinyl can be off putting for some.  The only saving grace is some might progress from digital events and get the bug and take up vinyl and events that keep it real.  If they don't then it will die out with us old farts.

Edited May 29, 20159 yr by chalky

They look good, they sound good and by golly they do you good, vinyl it's the future, you can see it, smell  it, touch and taste an original soul record.

 

Amusing to see a few bars / pubs in our vicinity now advertising that they have turntables / play ' real vinyl '  ...Oh FFS we never left it - maybe the novelty of the laptop DJ is on the wane. Vinyl the new trendy ' must have ' for wannabees.....  

 

A vinyl record is a handwritten letter A digital download is a text message

I'm posting this in here as it's more about what these two guys have to say than the actual event - hope that ok. Not bothered about ovo, and happy to play cd's and mp3s. Does anyone know them? I don't but I'm way out of everyone's loop.

 

https://www.nottinghampost.com/Riverbank-hosts-soul-pop-party-Geno-Washington/story-26591720-detail/story.html

 

Peter

 

The landlord in my local uses spotify to play tunes on Fridays/Saturdays.

Sometime he asks me to look after it while he mingles and has a couple

of pints.

Strangely enough the next hour's playlist features almost

exclusively Northern/Crossover/Sweet and some funk, i think

he's starting to not believe me when I say " that I can't operate spotify".   

Edited May 30, 20159 yr by Kegsy

Kegsy, on 29 May 2015 - 11:54 AM, said:

The landlord in my local uses spotify to play tunes on Fridays/Saturdays.

Sometime he asks me to look after it for a while he mingles and has a couple

of pints.

Strangely enough the next hour's playlist features almost

exclusively Northern/Crossover/Sweet and some funk, i think

he's starting to not believe me when I say " that I can't operate spotify".   

Your ahead of the game me old mate. I don't even know what spotify is!

 

Peter

I'm posting this in here as it's more about what these two guys have to say than the actual event - hope that ok. Not bothered about ovo, and happy to play cd's and mp3s. Does anyone know them? I don't but I'm way out of everyone's loop.

 

https://www.nottinghampost.com/Riverbank-hosts-soul-pop-party-Geno-Washington/story-26591720-detail/story.html

 

Peter

 

We Got Soul, Riverbank Bar & Kitchen, Trent Bridge, Friday May 29, 8pm to 2am, £10/£15 or £40 VIP

 

I was thinking it was a free event and good luck to them and such, but it isn't. Ergo chancey w@nkers.

 

Your ahead of the game me old mate. I don't even know what spotify is!

 

Peter

 

Don't worry if you ever come into contact with it

there's some ointment you can get from the chemists.

Kegsy, on 29 May 2015 - 12:11 PM, said:

Don't worry if you ever come into contact with it

there's some ointment you can get from the chemists.

Phew!

Not described as an OVO event so no one being mislead..............   

RareMusicDirect, on 29 May 2015 - 12:58 PM, said:

Not described as an OVO event so no one being mislead..............   

I don't think anyone has suggested that anyone is being mislead.

 

    

We Got Soul, Riverbank Bar & Kitchen, Trent Bridge, Friday May 29, 8pm to 2am, £10/£15 or £40 VIP

I was thinking it was a free event and good luck to them and such, but it isn't. Ergo chancey w@nkers.

Not far from the Britt ! Now that was a good night !!!

I don't think anyone has suggested that anyone is being mislead.

 

    

 

It's inevitable..........even unstoppable............... if its an event as described, hard to have an issue with (the argument that it degrades the ovo vinyl scene is true and valid as ever but in my experience its parallel worlds) .......... 

RareMusicDirect, on 29 May 2015 - 1:03 PM, said:

It's inevitable..........even unstoppable............... if its an event as described, hard to have an issue with (the argument that it degrades the ovo vinyl scene is true and valid as ever but in my experience its parallel worlds) .......... 

As I said at the beginning of the thread I wasn't really intending to comment on the actual event - rather what the two geezers had to say etc. And to see if anyone knew them - just out of interest. I live in Nottingham so it may have been of more interest to me but the thread has generated some discussion.

 

I'd rather have someone playing first-rate Northern off a CD or mp3 than someone playing second or third rate Northern off original vinyl. Seems many care more about the music's format than the quality.

 

that's like saying i'd rather eat cat shit than dog shit cos it's less smelly; best to eat neither isn't it?

Why offer any argument for anything that isn't first-rate music off original vinyl. There's a lot of people doing just that, anything less is...well, less.

We Got Soul, Riverbank Bar & Kitchen, Trent Bridge, Friday May 29, 8pm to 2am, £10/£15 or £40 VIP

 

I was thinking it was a free event and good luck to them and such, but it isn't. Ergo chancey w@nkers.

 

 

Exactly. just some more chancers running just another scam.

The reason they're not concerned about format isn't some noble crusade to 'get the music to the people', or some anti-materialist stance. Been hearing that same shit for years, all off people who simply want to make money off boots or be trendy djs but don't want to commit any expenditure or effort. Simple as that.

There's about 1,000 dos on every weekend in the uk, and that's the ones playing proper records.

It's almost too easy nowadays to buy a collection of classic originals - as proved by the fact so many have done it - so really, how easy do these want it. 

There simply is not any scenario left in the world that requires more DJs, let alone ones with zero record collecting experience and therefore zero knowledge. At best, they will offer a similarly predictable and stagnant output to the wedding dj type

Exactly. just some more chancers running just another scam.

The reason they're not concerned about format isn't some noble crusade to 'get the music to the people', or some anti-materialist stance. Been hearing that same shit for years, all off people who simply want to make money off boots or be trendy djs but don't want to commit any expenditure or effort. Simple as that.

There's about 1,000 dos on every weekend in the uk, and that's the ones playing proper records.

It's almost too easy nowadays to buy a collection of classic originals - as proved by the fact so many have done it - so really, how easy do these want it. 

There simply is not any scenario left in the world that requires more DJs, let alone ones with zero record collecting experience and therefore zero knowledge. At best, they will offer a similarly predictable and stagnant output to the wedding dj type

 

#Wot-ee-sed.   

 

Regards,

 

Dave

im from notts originally never heard of these guys  as for the event well if R.W 's involved then it wont be busy he  was never liked by the notts old guard  

What do you get if you pay the £40 VIP rate?

What do you get if you pay the £40 VIP rate?

 you get to be an extra big t*&t

I know Paul Dallison and I've met Jim Walters , both will be playing OVO in th e70's, x/over room  ,  Paul was a guest on Chris Andertons Dab-of-Soul radio show a fortnight ago . As for the others , well just like a lot of the band-wagon jumpers , they will play anything just to make a name for themselves . It happens all over the East Midlands . We have even got All-nighters playing club classics under the banner of rare soul . But hey-oh , I have gave up on the Northern scene . It's worse now than it was when I packed up in 74 .Thank god for the more progressive soul front .

that's like saying i'd rather eat cat shit than dog shit cos it's less smelly; best to eat neither isn't it?

Why offer any argument for anything that isn't first-rate music off original vinyl. There's a lot of people doing just that, anything less is...well, less.

Speaking of cat and Dog S**t, I note they have 70's Xover room and that will be OVO.   

OVO is not necessarily a tasty treat.  

Mp3s and Cds are ok for playing in your car, if it was acceptable to play them out then all of us could be djs, I personally don't have a record collection and have respect for most djs who have spent a lifetime collecting vinyl, they have earned the right, I don't believe the excuse that its a good way to get young blood into "the scene", there is a group of young people in wigan that play OV in their own club, i'm sure that if other youngsters where that interested then they could do the same.

There are plenty of us young uns buying original vinyl. As per the £25 and under sets threads etc there are loads of top quality records that are affordable, they don't have to be stupidly expensive and I don't think it's expected considering how young some of the younger DJs are. Over time you build on your collection, sell a few bits to then fund other wants. It's traditionally an ovo scene. And not to mention how lazy and easy it is to play a few mp3s off your laptop, no thought and imagination in my opinion

It does worry me when I see some of the views and comments on Facebook regarding format. Each to their own I know but you can't even explain about ovo, they really couldn't care less!

Russ involved too….rolls eyes.

 

Whats the matter with that Steve, he's got a big following   

What do you get if you pay the £40 VIP rate?

Wondered that myself so checked the flyer, ( in their words not mine ) You get .... Drum roll ....,

a glass of fizz, get to sit near the stage and a pizza to share ... presumably with the digital DJ, cos he won't be doing owt else !