Obscure - unusual Foreign Releases

[Steve Foran]

Try again

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[Mal C]

Been a while since I posted in here, here's loads of Canadian 45's I got over the last 3 weeks.. some very interesting tracks in here, and all for sale btw...

More Canadian...

[Chris L]

Canadian

[Mal C]

Thats a nice one, I had some very nice shinning Garnet Mimms on the same rouge label, keeping those as they are stone mint...

[Psamsara]

How about this one?

"Rough out here" was long thought to be LP only, then Peruvian 45 release showed up and it wasn't cheap. Had one and sold it.

But i've never seen or heard of this one. Greek release, with full 4:39 version of "Rough out here" and on flip there's "Love at last" - beautiful little tune and to my knowledge first and only time released on a 45

 

Edited November 10, 2015 by psamsara

[Chris L]

A couple of Frenchies 

[Kev John]

Lee Moses - How Much Longer (Must I Wait) - French CBS & P/S

atb Kev 

Edited December 14, 2015 by Kev John

[Kev John]

Teddy Pendergrass - You Can't Hide From Yourself - Dutch PIR & P/S

atb Kev 

 

[Benji]

Among the most obscure if not rarest german Northern releases in my collection:

The Lovelles - Here come the heartaches / I wonder why - RS

Both sides in stereo, flip is not available on 45 anywhere else.

[Tlscapital]

On 14 décembre 2015 at 18:36, Chris L said:

A couple of Frenchies 

Nope Belgian !

[Benji]

Why do you think it's Belgian? BIEM indicates France, Belgium would be SABAM, wouldn't it?

[Mal C]

On 10/11/2015 at 00:31, psamsara said:

How about this one?

"Rough out here" was long thought to be LP only, then Peruvian 45 release showed up and it wasn't cheap. Had one and sold it.

But i've never seen or heard of this one. Greek release, with full 4:39 version of "Rough out here" and on flip there's "Love at last" - beautiful little tune and to my knowledge first and only time released on a 45

 

here's the Peruvian 45

[Tlscapital]

3 hours ago, Benji said:

Why do you think it's Belgian? BIEM indicates France, Belgium would be SABAM, wouldn't it?

Because those black Brunswick are ! If you know the French pressings and the Belgian ones, you can tell them appart even though it's written BIEM. You have the typos/fonts and then you have the company sleeves, the art-sleeves and the picture sleeves that are specific (when you have them, not all seem to have "deserve" one) that are another strong lead.

Edited December 18, 2015 by tlscapital

[Benji]

ok. Never noticed that. I also thought that Belgian pressings all had centres, like the dutch ones.

[Tlscapital]

6 minutes ago, Benji said:

ok. Never noticed that. I also thought that Belgian pressings all had centres, like the dutch ones.

Some singles in France had sometimes triangle ejectable centers in the 5T's and early 6T's. In Holland some had the rond ejectable centers but most had the big centers. In Germany I believe that all had the big centers as in Belgium.

[Chris L]

1 hour ago, tlscapital said:

Some singles in France had sometimes triangle ejectable centers in the 5T's and early 6T's. In Holland some had the rond ejectable centers but most had the big centers. In Germany I believe that all had the big centers as in Belgium.

Singles in Belgium are mostly with large centers but do also come with smaller ones.

3 hours ago, tlscapital said:

Because those black Brunswick are ! If you know the French pressings and the Belgian ones, you can tell them appart even though it's written BIEM. You have the typos/fonts and then you have the company sleeves, the art-sleeves and the picture sleeves that are specific (when you have them, not all seem to have "deserve" one) that are another strong lead.

Any chance you could post a

Any chance you can post a few Belgium labels the ones I own have SABAM.

[Tlscapital]

On 18 décembre 2015 at 15:18, Chris L said:

Singles in Belgium are mostly with large centers but do also come with smaller ones.

Any chance you could post a

Any chance you can post a few Belgium labels the ones I own have SABAM.

Smaller holes for 6T's 45rpm's in Belgium ? What labels had that ? Here's an example on the BIEM plot;

 this is Holland

 

this is Belgium

and it's French counterpart

 

and the French example. So you see SABAM is Belgian only !  SACEM is also for France only ! But BIEM was for Belgium, Holland, France and more...

Edited December 20, 2015 by tlscapital

[Kev John]

Spring Rain - South Africa 

[Mal C]

Holland..

[Chris L]

22 hours ago, tlscapital said:

Smaller holes for 6T's 45rpm's in Belgium ? What labels had that ? Here's an example on the BIEM plot; So you see SABAM is Belgian only !  SACEM is also for France only ! But BIEM was for Belgium, Holland and France.

You're probably right, I only found one Belgian on MCA with small holes can't see if it's been made in Holland, probably has.

[John Benson]

Regarding BIEM - I've a Dells 45 on Italian Cadet with that on.

A quick Google search shows this:

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

 

This is a list of BIEM member organisations.

1. Albania ALBAUTOR
2. Argentina SADAIC
3. Austria AUSTROMECHANA
4. Belgium SABAM
5. Brazil SBACEM
6. Bulgaria MUSICAUTOR
7. Canada SODRAC
8. Chile SCD
9. China MCSC
10. Croatia HDS
11. Czech Republic OSA
12. Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Iceland, Lithuania and Estonia NCB
13. France SDRM
14. Georgia GESAP
15. Germany GEMA
16. Greece AEPI
17. Guinea-Bissau SGA
18. Hong Kong CASH
19. Hungary ARTISJUS
20. Israel ACUM
21. Italy, The Vatican, San Marino SIAE
22. Japan JASRAC
23. Malaysia MACP
24. Mexico SACM
25. Netherlands STEMRA
26. Peru APDAYC
27. Philippines FILSCAP
28. Poland ZAIKS
29. Portugal Sociedade Portuguesa de Autores (SPA)
30. Romania UCMR-ADA
31. Russian Federation RAO
32. Serbia and Montenegro SOKOJ
33. Slovakia SOZA
34. Slovenia SAZAS
35. Spain SGAE
36. Switzerland, Liechtenstein SUISA
37. Trinidad, Tobago COTT
38. Turkey MESAM
39. Ukraine UACRR
40. United Kingdom MCPS
41. United States of America HFA
42. Uruguay AGADU
43. Venezuela SACVEN

So, it doesn't relate to a specific country but represents a lot of them, there's too much to post on here, but this link gives you a good idea of what BIEM is and does: https://www.biem.org/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&layout=item&id=20&Itemid=442&lang=en

[Tlscapital]

5 hours ago, John Benson said:

Regarding BIEM - I've a Dells 45 on Italian Cadet with that on.

Thankss for that John, and yes I presumed that after a quick G**gle search... I've also been told before but didn't look much further factually. Cheers, Tim

[Tlscapital]

13 hours ago, Chris L said:

You're probably right, I only found one Belgian on MCA with small holes can't see if it's been made in Holland, probably has.

Which one Chris ?

[Chris L]

Dutch

French

Edited January 2, 2016 by Chris L

[Soul-slider]

 

'It's Too Late' - the Bobby Goldsboro Northern classic. Nice NS backing track, shame it's in Dutch!

[Chris L]

Probably not as rare as Frank Wilson but a nice Canadian Bell, made by Quality records, good chunky vinyl.

[Guest closedms]

I think this is a South African pressing can anyone confirm?

[Philippe]

Spanish :

[Mal C]

Have this in Sales at the moment, very nice on Aussie W&G... I also have a black label variation, which has the same cat number.. sometimes these are NZ copies, but this one say Oz... I guess it was a big seller...

Edited April 14, 2016 by Mal C

[Mal C]

this is nice on Aussie Chess..

[Northern Soul Uk]

A few foreign ones that i have picked up lately.
 

[Chris L]

6 hours ago, Northern Soul UK said:

A few foreign ones that i have picked up lately.

 

Very nice, some serious label staring coming up I feel...................

Edited April 15, 2016 by Chris L

[Northern Soul Uk]

7 hours ago, Chris L said:

Very nice, some serious label staring coming up I feel...................

Thank you, I have many more on foreign labels too, I love them to bits, just different to the normal releases, and many are original too as they were released at the same time as the US and UK releases. The Dutch 'Roulette' Ila Van for instance, released in 1967 the same time as the 'Roulette' release in the US, and the 'Hit' release in Spain. so it's as original as original can be.

Mexican

French

German

French

French

French

Mexican

Edited April 15, 2016 by Northern Soul UK

[Chris L]

Jamaican.................................dread !

[Northern Soul Uk]

Nice that

 

[Benji]

Don't know if posted this before, Roy Roberts on jamaican Stateside:

[Triode]

Bloody hell never seen or heard of that one!  Very nice indeed, one of my all time favourites,

I just love that Hammond Organ.

Triode

[Chris L]

Brazilian

[Benji]

1 hour ago, Triode said:

Bloody hell never seen or heard of that one!  Very nice indeed, one of my all time favourites,

I just love that Hammond Organ.

Triode

It's a scan from my own copy I sold many years ago. Never seen another. Unfortunately I can't remember where it went. Because I'd try to buy it back straight away!

[jimmy clitheroe]

One sided test pressing

[Chris L]

48 minutes ago, jimmy clitheroe said:

One sided test pressing

 

MEGA !!  

[Mal C]

25 minutes ago, Chris L said:

MEGA !!  

Wow...

 

[jimmy clitheroe]

Thanks Chris

Edited April 17, 2016 by jimmy clitheroe

[Benji]

1 hour ago, jimmy clitheroe said:

One sided test pressing

 

Wow, great one. By the way, it's a TP of the 1967 release on french Roulette/Vogue.

[jimmy clitheroe]

Thanks Benji ,I thought it was Roulette 

[Rom1]

Nice Vogue test pressing, I've never seen it before (and I'm Frenchie)....the stamp on the label means it comes from a French radio station called "La Radio des Vallées" (still existing) in the south west mountains of France, in the Pyrénées (near Andorra & Spain)...surely a long travel for this record!

[Sunnysoul]

On 4/17/2016 at 05:26, jimmy clitheroe said:

One sided test pressing

I'm not often gobsmacked but I am here !  

[jimmy clitheroe]

Thankyou 

[Mal C]

Nice NZ copy of Jimmy Smith - The Cat, notice the Aussie import stamp....

[jimmy clitheroe]

I picked this up this morning , at came in a South African emi sleeve, so assuming South African? Paul