Eddie Parker On Manships Site

[Jumpinjoan]

Yes you would Joan.XXX

Yes I would Simon, wouldn't keep it though x

[Tony Smith]

Shaine - Call me sweet things - on Sue? Must have been re-issued.?

No, Jack Ashford did a distribution deal with Juggy Murray, nowt unusual in that.

[NEV]

Yes I would Simon, wouldn't keep it though x

But you don't sell records Joan

There's always an exception though eh

[Pete S]

That could make a grown man cry

Yes but he's got no proof that the stock of the Awake 45's were destroyed, because they obviously weren't...it's a well known story about the Gwen Owens record though.

[grant]

Jim he must have been playing it as a 'rare oldie' at that time because it was played in mid-77, booted and dropped - it's on the Wigan tape I recorded at the time (15/10/77)

https://www.mixcloud.com/mayfairmenthol/wigan-casino-live-15-10-1977-northern-soul/

recorded that spot too that night Pete - awesome

[Pete S]

recorded that spot too that night Pete - awesome

Did you recognise what the 5 seconds of record right at the very very start was Grant?

Prince & Princess...

anyway I'm recording side 2 as I write this, I'll get it posted up, track list..

TONY MIDDLETON

RINGLEADERS

SAM WILLIAMS

ROBBY LAWSON

TAJ MAHAL

JOEY HEATHERTON

JAY D MARTIN

HARLEY HATCHER

BOBBY GOLDSBORO

PAT POWDRILL

CHAPTER FIVE

MIKE McDONALD

LYDIA MARCELLE

LILLIE BRYANT

PAUL SINDAB (strange choice, booted a year earlier)

JOHN GARY

JACKIE TRENT

EDDIE REGAN

LEN BARRY

PATRICE HOLLOWAY

PAULA PARFITT

never heard Richard or anyone else play John Gary again...he ends with that and KMinshull takes over

Edited January 26, 2013 by Pete S

[grant]

Did you recognise what the 5 seconds of record right at the very very start was Grant?

Prince & Princess...

anyway I'm recording side 2 as I write this, I'll get it posted up, track list..

TONY MIDDLETON

RINGLEADERS

SAM WILLIAMS

ROBBY LAWSON

TAJ MAHAL

JOEY HEATHERTON

JAY D MARTIN

HARLEY HATCHER

BOBBY GOLDSBORO

PAT POWDRILL

CHAPTER FIVE

MIKE McDONALD

LYDIA MARCELLE

LILLIE BRYANT

PAUL SINDAB (strange choice, booted a year earlier)

JOHN GARY

JACKIE TRENT

EDDIE REGAN

LEN BARRY

PATRICE HOLLOWAY

PAULA PARFITT

never heard Richard or anyone else play John Gary again...he ends with that and KMinshull takes over

yes Pete and at the beginning of P+P on my tape someone shouts 'Oh Yeah' just before it kicks in, always thought it was part o f the record, until i got one

[Zed1]

https://www.raresoulm...cw-crying-clown

[Ady Croasdell]

the fact that searlings copy (one of the first) came via john anderson goes congruent with post #36 which inform us that soul bowl had a "three figure quatity"...so we can rest assure that there are about 100, 200 or even more copies tucked away safely in English collections.

I'm sorry Marc, you're rather easily convinced. There can't be many records John Anderson has said he's not had a 100 copies of and I think that was only second or third hand reporting anyway. Because Richard Searling bought one from him does not confirm that John had 100 it just confirms that John had at least one.

Ady

[Marc Forrest]

I'm sorry Marc, you're rather easily convinced. There can't be many records John Anderson has said he's not had a 100 copies of and I think that was only second or third hand reporting anyway. Because Richard Searling bought one from him does not confirm that John had 100 it just confirms that John had at least one.

Ady

knowing david flynn as a usually reliable and valid source to quote I indeed dared to be easily convinced by his statement.

[Marc Forrest]

... There can't be many records John Anderson has said he's not had a 100 copies of ..Ady

..but am also convinced you have a point there ;)

[Ady Croasdell]

knowing david flynn as a usually reliable and valid source to quote I indeed dared to be easily convinced by his statement.

He's so out of it he thinks he lives in japan!

[Louise]

I'm sorry Marc, you're rather easily convinced. There can't be many records John Anderson has said he's not had a 100 copies of and I think that was only second or third hand reporting anyway. Because Richard Searling bought one from him does not confirm that John had 100 it just confirms that John had at least one.

Ady

While talking with John (Anderson) tonight, we briefly discussed the above subject.

He reckon's that he only ever had circa 50 copies and not all at the same time, although he did sell some used one's for a quid each in the early days (I'm sure Dickie Watt will confirm this fact being one of the lucky recipient's at the time).

Althought John had quantity of many of Jack's other release's on Prodigal Triple B, Sepia, Spectrum,Ashford, She etc he has never meet Jack or Eddie (albeit briefly at Prestatyn). His dealings were with Lorriane.

Even though John's dislike of Northern is well documented he has always rated Al Gardner's Sweet Baby very highly and thinks the backing track is great.

Dave

Edited January 26, 2013 by Louise

[Hitsville Chalky]

is it any better though than the Precisions - if this is love ? .... Precisions is better and 100 % Frank wilson ..there are loads of Detroit far better ...Eddie Parker is still a great record but not worth what it sells for ... well that's my view on it ..others may think diffrent .

[Sheldonsoul]

is it any better though than the Precisions - if this is love ? .... Precisions is better and 100 % Frank wilson ..there are loads of Detroit far better ...Eddie Parker is still a great record but not worth what it sells for ... well that's my view on it ..others may think diffrent .

chalky ep does it for me over the précisions (even though its a fantastic tune) I remember walking into wigan my first time and hearing ep , joey heartherton, Eddie Reagan , Harley hatcher, Andre brassier the kid !!!!!!!, but after my first trip to wigan I went straight up graham warrs shop in brum and bought ep and rose battiste hit and run,and still have the the pressing of ep till this day,and as I said in an earlier post for my 50th bday ep was on the decks when I walked into my surprise party and got a feeling it will be played at a later event in my life :-( , I'm gone sounds quite fitting lol lol

[Chatty]

Was JM having a sly dig at anyone in particular with his description of the Eddie Parker record?

[Iancsloft]

is it any better though than the Precisions - if this is love ? .... Precisions is better and 100 % Frank wilson ..there are loads of Detroit far better ...Eddie Parker is still a great record but not worth what it sells for ... well that's my view on it ..others may think diffrent .

Rare records are has you know collectables just like antiques a lot of collecters of rare records dont even bother going to soul do,s they just go about their daily life and if a rare 45 comes available what these people want they bid up to what they can afford yes the Precisions is a fantastic slab of Detroitsoul but nearly all collections have it or should have when a record like Eddie Parker comes available most of the copies are in the hands of Northern diehards who wont sell or in the hands of collecters who wont sell,so the price goes up when a few people with dosh bid against each other

Its the old saying a record is only worth what someone is willing to pay and with more collecters these days than ever before some with serious dosh the price on such a powerful Detroit recording like Im Gone with its history and condition .ect is bound to attract the big money.

Like most people on SS i know loads of Detroit Recordings which are much better than Im Gone but the bottom line is most of them are readly available for very little money and most collecters have them........

[Iancsloft]

Was JM having a sly dig at anyone in particular with his description of the Eddie Parker record?

Noooo John Manship in a previous life was in the Order of Knights Templar he is a lost soul still searching for the Holy Grail he will never find it .

The Holy Grail he seeks is reported by to be buried somewhere beneath a old stone mill on the border of Lancashire / Yorkshire on the old Halifax Road

guarded by the Monkey King lol

[Quinvy]

There's no myth. I had the said "holy grail" in my hands a few months ago.

[Guest]

He's so out of it he thinks he lives in japan!

You're right...I should stop sending in emails when you lot are asleep, and getting all my post sent from/to Japan, to create the impression that I am living in Japan! And all those sightings of me in record stores all over Tokyo every weekend...my team of Flynny-doubles....muhahahaaa!

Back to the EP and how many JA had once upon a time...I recall when I was negotiating to buy a copy many moons ago, being told the story (from the seller who knows JA well) of JA having *several boxes of them'. This is backed up within several threads on here as well, including one Sourcer admitting he left copies in favour of Billy Sha-Rae! However, that said, one comment was that JA 'only' had 50, not 100+, so maybe we'll never know?

At the end of the day it is rare with demand faaar outsripping supply and an 'ultimate' to a lot of folk. I hope Jack Ashford has more copies, so he can make a good wedge of cash. I reckon it is destined to go to Australia or Japan...what say you the Aussie contingent...gotta love the exchange rates, eh!?!

[Theothertosspot]

Jim he must have been playing it as a 'rare oldie' at that time because it was played in mid-77, booted and dropped - it's on the Wigan tape I recorded at the time (15/10/77)

https://www.mixcloud.com/mayfairmenthol/wigan-casino-live-15-10-1977-northern-soul/

Used to get plays at Loughborough Town Hall around the same time, in the upstairs room where they played the rarer stuff.

Regards

[Psamsara]

for how much was Eddie sold then?

[Jonathan]

I sold a copy at Wigan in 1980 for £60.00 ! Who ever bought it ,please can i have it back - Great Record.

[Jaco]

for how much was Eddie sold then?

JM's site currently says it has 2 weeks and a day to go.

[Wiganer1]

I sold a copy at Wigan in 1980 for £60.00 ! Who ever bought it ,please can i have it back - Great Record.

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jonathan are the jonathan who had do i love you first???

[Jonathan]

Hi

Yes I'm the same one, sold my northern soul collection 1980 !

however did have alot of other great records

Regards

Jonathan

[Sunnysoul]

You're right...I should stop sending in emails when you lot are asleep, and getting all my post sent from/to Japan, to create the impression that I am living in Japan! And all those sightings of me in record stores all over Tokyo every weekend...my team of Flynny-doubles....muhahahaaa!

Back to the EP and how many JA had once upon a time...I recall when I was negotiating to buy a copy many moons ago, being told the story (from the seller who knows JA well) of JA having *several boxes of them'. This is backed up within several threads on here as well, including one Sourcer admitting he left copies in favour of Billy Sha-Rae! However, that said, one comment was that JA 'only' had 50, not 100+, so maybe we'll never know?

At the end of the day it is rare with demand faaar outsripping supply and an 'ultimate' to a lot of folk. I hope Jack Ashford has more copies, so he can make a good wedge of cash. I reckon it is destined to go to Australia or Japan...what say you the Aussie contingent...gotta love the exchange rates, eh!?!

Beat me to it Dave , there's been at least two copies of Eddie Parker in Australia for some time now and this latest one may well end up down here too .

Edited January 29, 2013 by sunnysoul

[Guest]

If I had the money and I also had the pick of any N/S record I would like to buy, then I`m Gone would be it!......I wouldn't need to think about it.

That`s how good it is!

[Corbett80]

That could make a grown man cry

'Orrible idea isn't it

[Chris L]

It's been a very, very long time ago but I do believe collector Nigel Martin had 3 copies. His dad worked for Canadian Pacific

and he bought records from Martin Koppel way before Martin K became universally known. Meethinks he asked for "Love you baby"

and Martin K said he didn't have it but did have a couple of copies of "I'm gone" (if Pete Smith reading this - Pete this is the bloke

you and I once visited - seem to remember he had some pretty decent stuff)

Edited January 31, 2013 by Chris L

[Pete S]

It's been a very, very long time ago but I do believe collector Nigel Martin had 3 copies. His dad worked for Canadian Pacific

and he bought records from Martin Koppel way before Martin K became universally known. Meethinks he asked for "Love you baby"

and Martin K said he didn't have it but did have a couple of copies of "I'm gone" (if Pete Smith reading this - Pete this is the bloke

you and I once visited - seem to remember he had some pretty decent stuff)

I remember Chris. He certainly didn't have "I'm Gone" when we saw him. He did have some tidy Detroit pieces, if you remember he played us and Manship off against one another to bump the price of the stuff up, telling both parties the other had offered more. We missed out in the end.

[Simsy]

Nigel Martin lived here in Bishop's Stortford once and he invited me to go through his records. I don't recall seeing anything on AWAKE, but to be fair, I didn't know my arse from my elbow NS wise in those days as it was 1983 and I was 17.

Edited January 31, 2013 by Simsy

[Tezza]

What's it up to at present, anybody??

[Simsy]

What's it up to at present, anybody??

£5174.00

[Guest Bearsy]

average record dont know what all the fuss is about i wouldnt pay £50 for it

but if some smart arse out there wants to be funny and prove me wrong i suppose i would have to eat humble pie and pay via paypal straight i will pay cash and drive to you right away to deliver money and collect said pile of tosh

ps, either that or i wil accept begrudgingly as a gift

[Tezza]

ps, either that or i will accept begrudgingly as a gift

You are a real gent

[Ted Massey]

average record dont know what all the fuss is about i wouldnt pay £50 for it

but if some smart arse out there wants to be funny and prove me wrong i suppose i would have to eat humble pie and pay via paypal straight i will pay cash and drive to you right away to deliver money and collect said pile of tosh

ps, either that or i wil accept begrudgingly as a gift

and this from a bloke that has that horrible pop record on coconut groove or something like that see you saturday mate

[Harry Crosby]

Hi

Yes I'm the same one, sold my northern soul collection 1980 !

however did have alot of other great records

Regards

Jonathan

Did you ever, I remember looking through that box at Wigan.

[Chris L]

Nigel Martin lived here in Bishop's Stortford once and he invited me to go through his records. I don't recall seeing anything on AWAKE, but to be fair, I didn't know my arse from my elbow NS wise in those days as it was 1983 and I was 17.

I'm talking 1972/3

[Chris L]

I remember Chris. He certainly didn't have "I'm Gone" when we saw him. He did have some tidy Detroit pieces, if you remember he played us and Manship off against one another to bump the price of the stuff up, telling both parties the other had offered more. We missed out in the end.

No Pete but you may remember the stories he told of when he did have them, people used to come round his house asking to buy it !!

[Chris L]

Nigel Martin lived here in Bishop's Stortford once and he invited me to go through his records. I don't recall seeing anything on AWAKE, but to be fair, I didn't know my arse from my elbow NS wise in those days as it was 1983 and I was 17.

Without going too much off topic Nigel also had copies of Duke Browner before anyone I knew.

[Guest Bearsy]

You are a real gent

on this occasion Tezza

[Guest Bearsy]

and this from a bloke that has that horrible pop record on coconut groove or something like that see you saturday mate

i prefer pop Ted will do see you at the Go Go and dont bring this god awful thing Eddie Parker ballad with you unless of course you need me to file it in my never to be heard out box at home

[Guest]

i prefer pop Ted will do see you at the Go Go and dont bring this god awful thing Eddie Parker ballad with you unless of course you need me to file it in my never to be heard out box at home

Eddie please forgive this heathen for he knows not what he says!

Crying Clown is hopefully the Ballad you refer to sir and I would agree its not suited to Mr Parkers voice.

But I`m Gone is a total masterpiece of Detroit Northern Soul.

[Guest Bearsy]

Eddie please forgive this heathen for he knows not what he says!

Crying Clown is hopefully the Ballad you refer to sir and I would agree its not suited to Mr Parkers voice.

But I`m Gone is a total masterpiece of Detroit Northern Soul.

I don't think you got my tongue in cheek joke with Ted Steve but don't worry I know what I wrote lol

[Sheldonsoul]

What's it up to at present, anybody??

£6224.00 now !!!

[Chris L]

£6224.00 now !!!

When's the end of auction date ?

[Simsy]

A week left.

[Harry Crosby]

As they say, CONDITION, CONDITION, CONDITION. Tis a thing of Beauty

[Dave Pinch]

Eddie please forgive this heathen for he knows not what he says!

Crying Clown is hopefully the Ballad you refer to sir and I would agree its not suited to Mr Parkers voice.

But I`m Gone is a total masterpiece of Detroit Northern Soul.

crying clown not suited to mr parkers voice....youre jesting of course...either that or your ears are made of cloth sir