Garethx Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 (edited) Agree with pretty much all of Sean's choices; all exceptional soul records (in fact I dug out the Irma Thomas to listen to today when reflecting on this topic; an exquisite and grown-up recording full of quiet dread rather than overblown wailing.) Pretty much anything Otis Clay ever recorded has just that bit more emotional resonance than practically any secular singer who's had a relatively long career. For me he is the master of getting inside a lyric and wringing every last nuance of meaning from it without resorting to vocal pyrotechnics and histrionics. His "That's How It Is" was one of the first real soul records I ever bought and it's still a side which pretty much all others have to measure up to. I could pick out any one of his slower records on One-Derful really, but special mention at the moment must go to "Must I Keep On Waiting" which seems less exposed than many of his other releases. The use of melisma at the end is a textbook example of bringing classic gospel styling to a secular record. O.V. Wright could do this effortlessly as well and the comments about Otis Clay could apply fully to him as well. Candi Staton and Bettye Swann could truly emote at will and have both made a host of wonderfully emotive sides. Denise LaSalle is often overlooked in these discussions and I can think of a trio of mid-70s Westbound things by her which pack as hard an emotional a punch as any one could mention: "Trying To Forget About You", Married, But Not To Each Other" and "I'm Over You" all really have the power to bring a lump to my throat most times I play them, particularly the knee-freezing final minute of the LP version of "Trying..." A couple of things which wouldn't be immediately obvious in this topic but which really move me at the moment are Bessie Banks's "Aint No Easy Way" on Volt, the often-overlooked reverse of "Try To Leave Me If You Can": a very subtle and rounded soul record which hints at a whole world of emotional experience behind it. The other record is Lee Fields tremendous "Mighty, Mighty Love" on Angle 3. The 'other' use of the "Take Me Back" / "Tyra's Song" backing track and for me the real winner of the trio: a simple, direct and magnificently uplifting piece of writing which Lee really takes to the limit vocally. Edited June 20, 2009 by garethx Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Windlesoul Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 Roy Hamilton-Heartaches hurry on by DEFY anybody not to be reduced to tears on first (and many) listens! Mark. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sean Hampsey Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 Agree with pretty much all of Sean's choices; all exceptional soul records (in fact I dug out the Irma Thomas to listen to today when reflecting on this topic; an exquisite and grown-up recording full of quiet dread rather than overblown wailing.) Pretty much anything Otis Clay ever recorded has just that bit more emotional resonance than practically any secular singer who's had a relatively long career. For me he is the master of getting inside a lyric and wringing every last nuance of meaning from it without resorting to vocal pyrotechnics and histrionics. His "That's How It Is" was one of the first real soul records I ever bought and it's still a side which pretty much all others have to measure up to. I could pick out any one of his slower records on One-Derful really, but special mention at the moment must go to "Must I Keep On Waiting" which seems less exposed than many of his other releases. The use of melisma at the end is a textbook example of bringing classic gospel styling to a secular record. O.V. Wright could do this effortlessly as well and the comments about Otis Clay could apply fully to him as well. Fabulous description of Otis and OV's style, Gareth. I guess you must have been there, at the Town & Country Club when Otis came on singing his tribute to O.V. 'Nickel And a Nail'. One of the most INCREDIBLE performances I've ever witnessed. Goosebumps just thinking about it. Often wonder if anyone ever caught it on video? Bestest, Sean Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Shinehead Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 OTIS CLAY = I CAN'T TAKE IT DORIS DUKE = I DON'T CARE ANYMORE + GHOST OF MYSELF MILLIE JACKSON= I'M THROUGH TRYING TO PROVE MY LOVE TO YOU THE DELLS =THE LOVE WE HAD (STAYS ON MY MIND) THELMA JONES = SALTY TEARS MARVIN GAYE = THATS ENOUGH = IT'S MADNESS ( MENTIONED EARLIER ) BETTY LAVETTE = YOUR TURN TO CRY GWEN McCRAE= I CAN ONLY THINK OF YOU Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest eedeecee Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 No contest....Please Don't Send Me Away-Garfield Fleming,never fails to bring tears to my eyes!! Marvin Gaye -what's going on Sam Fletcher -I'd think it over Harold Melvin & The Blue Notes -don't leave me this way Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Pinch Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 (edited) larry graham one in a million you sam dees show must go on john rowles if i only had time...............or maybe this is just smaltz. drying me eyes now dave Edited June 20, 2009 by dave pinch Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest paul simmo Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 GOOTA BE DEON JACKSON THATS WHAT YOU DO TO ME Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jill Bayles Posted June 21, 2009 Share Posted June 21, 2009 Luther Vandross - Superstar/Until You Come Back To Me (That's What I'm Gonna Do) My link Does it for me every time Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Phild Posted June 21, 2009 Share Posted June 21, 2009 Temptations - I Wish It Would Rain ........ No Contest Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jock B Posted June 21, 2009 Share Posted June 21, 2009 (edited) phil coulter a good thing going (gets me really going now) was the only 1 my mam asked me to turn up (god bless her) she loved it Jock Edited June 21, 2009 by Jock B Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sheldonsoul Posted June 21, 2009 Share Posted June 21, 2009 not northern , my mistake by marvin gaye/ diana ross... incredible vocals from marvin Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Brett F Posted June 21, 2009 Share Posted June 21, 2009 Last one from me.....Zane Hunter put me onto this.incredible soul music Lee Jones " This Heart Is Haunted...(Amy) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Hermanthegerman Posted June 21, 2009 Share Posted June 21, 2009 Another one: Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Theresa Posted June 21, 2009 Share Posted June 21, 2009 So Very Hard To Go - Tower of Power Next Lifetime - Erykah Badu Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
NEV Posted June 21, 2009 Share Posted June 21, 2009 Marvin Gaye -what's going on George Pepp -the feeling is real Sy hightower -i know your leaving me Robert Tanner -sweet memories Cynthia Sheeler-i'll cry over you Linda Griner-goodbye cruel love Hows that for starters Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Suzannek Posted June 21, 2009 Share Posted June 21, 2009 Two nominations by Little Willie John - Sleep and Now You Know also love Half a Love by Little Willie John, but cannot post soundfiles yet. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hr09X8IaMPA Jerry Jackson - Time Suz x Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mach Posted June 21, 2009 Share Posted June 21, 2009 (edited) Great thread, could do a top 100, but here 5 of my alltime favs, in no order. Marion Stewart, i must be losing you, R records Tommy mosely, For her love, Uptown. George pep, Feeling is real, coleman Don & juan, Heartbreaking truth, mala Jerry fuller, Turn to me, challenge Edited June 21, 2009 by big chris Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest MBarrett Posted June 21, 2009 Share Posted June 21, 2009 Just thinking about this record . . . . it's like somebody put their hand inside my ribcage . . . . and is wrenching my heart from my body!! Got some radio play here in the early seventies when it was topping the U.S. charts (R&B and Billboard). But I couldn't buy a copy for love or money. I think that to this day it never had an official single release in the U.K. O.K. . . . steel yourself . . . . here it is . . . . https://www.youtube.c...h?v=SGgNXX0XfVU MB Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ian Dewhirst Posted June 21, 2009 Share Posted June 21, 2009 Just listened to the Lou Ragland "What Should I Do" the incredible power that builds in his voice and the crushing moment where he screams " I HAVE TRIED EVERYTHING TO MAKE A GO OF IT"....MANALIVE, that line really turns my wretched emotional state on that long dark path to total despair........ i need to lay down Why do ya think I got rid of the bugger! Gotta try and function as best as possible without Lou leading me into a mealstrom of despair LOL...... Ian D Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Kev Cane Posted June 21, 2009 Share Posted June 21, 2009 Last one from me.....Zane Hunter put me onto this.incredible soul music Lee Jones " This Heart Is Haunted...(Amy) Cracker Brett. and you,ve just reminded me of one of the hundreds that should be included:- The Lee Jones lead Masqueraders-I,m an average guy. the flip to Aint gonna stop, absolutely incredible Kev Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sean Hampsey Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Cracker Brett. and you,ve just reminded me of one of the hundreds that should be included:- The Lee Jones lead Masqueraders-I,m an average guy. the flip to Aint gonna stop, absolutely incredible Kev If you're talking Masq's Kev... and I don't disagree with your choice in "Average Guy" (the flip of my old Mel Britt cover up from 30++ years ago would you believe)... the other side of "How Big Is Big" on Bell "Please Take Me Back"is a perfect 'Emotionally Charged" slab of Soul Music to be reckoned with. Saw them perform in Memphis last year and they did a private acapella rendition for us! Sean Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
stomper45 Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 (edited) Play this side alot - who you gonna run to- lenny curtis (where do i post soundfile at mo) Edited June 22, 2009 by stomper45 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Kev Cane Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 If you're talking Masq's Kev... and I don't disagree with your choice in "Average Guy" (the flip of my old Mel Britt cover up from 30++ years ago would you believe)... the other side of "How Big Is Big" on Bell "Please Take Me Back"is a perfect 'Emotionally Charged" slab of Soul Music to be reckoned with. Saw them perform in Memphis last year and they did a private acapella rendition for us! Sean Absolutely Sean, I think "Please take me back" is the clincher, and as you state with "How big is big" on t,other side, what a double sider, was Lee Jones with them Sean last year, was gutted when they did Prestatyn a couple of years ago and the top man was missing, although having said that they were still great but maybe a little bit of seeing the Temps without David Ruffin or Paul Williams type of feeling came over me. I asked one of the other members of the group where he was and I was told he was a truck driver now, tears you up when you here shite singers making fortunes and this amazing talent having to hit the road to make a living. Best Regards Sean Kev Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest in town Mikey Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 When I think emotionally charged. Firstly I think Stafford. Secondly Henry Jerome - In Your Eyes. Where does that leave me? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ged Parker Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 How about this Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Goldwax Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 I think many factors can add emotional depth to a song including any personal associations you may have or even , as is the case with James Carr for instance, the knowledge of a troubled mind behind the performance. It's very hard to nominate one record so I'll just add a new name to the fine selection above whose honest delivery and tortured vocal moves me every time - Irma Thomas Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sean Hampsey Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 (edited) Absolutely Sean, I think "Please take me back" is the clincher, and as you state with "How big is big" on t,other side, what a double sider, was Lee Jones with them Sean last year, was gutted when they did Prestatyn a couple of years ago and the top man was missing, although having said that they were still great but maybe a little bit of seeing the Temps without David Ruffin or Paul Williams type of feeling came over me. I asked one of the other members of the group where he was and I was told he was a truck driver now, tears you up when you here shite singers making fortunes and this amazing talent having to hit the road to make a living. Best Regards Sean Kev Hi Kev, Lee Jones was back in Texas - driving his truck as you'd heard! Think there's a bit more to him 'having to truck' than meets the eye though. Got to say, his loss was made up for by the INCREDIBLE Sam Hutchins. The three of em were great - but Sam... oh lordy, lordy! The guy was out of this world... like watching (and hearing) the Womack on Steroids! (His AGP 45's are well worth picking up by the way if you don't have them). I've got a tiny bit of footage, shot off my mobile, that I've tried to upload to no avail - if I can I'll email it to ya! Cheers matey, Sean Edited June 22, 2009 by Sean Hampsey Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 A few that do it for me are Freddie Parris - There she goes Roy Hamilton - Heartache ( hurry on by ) Freddie Scott - Mr Hearache David Ruffin - Gonna walk away from your love Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
vince ayres Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 WITHOUT A DOUBT(CHARLES BRANDY-WITHOUT YOUR LOVE-BLUE CAT) THATS ENDED THIS DISCUSSION!!!!!!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Garswood Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 what about this one, freddie hughes-send my baby back Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest in town Mikey Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 WITHOUT A DOUBT(CHARLES BRANDY-WITHOUT YOUR LOVE-BLUE CAT) THATS ENDED THIS DISCUSSION!!!!!!! Hey Vince. Good to see you on here. (Mike from Dursley - etc) I think you need to form an opinion on this one though. Stop sitting on the fence. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 for me: 1. young mods - i can't hurt you back 2. caesars - desperate for your affection 3. perfections - baby don't you go 4. perfections - girl you better hurry Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 I DO LOVE YOU - BARBARA MASON UNTIL THEN I'LL SUFFER - BARBARA LYNN Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 Let me down easy - Betty Lavette ......and to see & hear her sing it live Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
weetwood white Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 Without doubt, Winstons - 'Colour Him Father' - you've got love, death, respect, joy, pain, hope and happiness in 3 minutes. Gets me every time. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jumpinjoan Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 Little Samson - Don't Take Your Love - El D. Whether I am in the car, at home or on the dance floor, I always start bubbling Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Brett F Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 Joan, fabulous choice, one of my all time favourites, i'm gonna' be buried with my copy. you at Chris M's birthday Sunday ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest isis Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 Without doubt, Winstons - 'Colour Him Father' - you've got love, death, respect, joy, pain, hope and happiness in 3 minutes. Gets me every time. Oooh now, that is a weepie. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest sarahleen Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 terrible tom - we were made for each other - ( i know , i know, again ). its just ALL the vocals on it . the screaming and the backing vocals Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Dave Turner Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 A couple that come to mind Bobby Hill - I Wanna Be With You - LoLo - Joe Valentine - I Can'T Stand To See You Go - RONN - Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Dave Turner Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 Absolutely Sean, I think "Please take me back" is the clincher, and as you state with "How big is big" on t,other side, what a double sider, was Lee Jones with them Sean last year, was gutted when they did Prestatyn a couple of years ago and the top man was missing, although having said that they were still great but maybe a little bit of seeing the Temps without David Ruffin or Paul Williams type of feeling came over me. I asked one of the other members of the group where he was and I was told he was a truck driver now, tears you up when you here shite singers making fortunes and this amazing talent having to hit the road to make a living. Best Regards Sean Kev Personally I think one could include "Let's Face Facts" in the mix. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LunM8mIhthY What a group these guys were/are, absolutely superb. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
ricticman Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 well even after all these years ............ Barbara McNair - you're gonna love my baby................still has me in bits when I hear it but eddie whitehead - just your fool - pushes me to a different place again , sob , sob , pete Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest in town Mikey Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 well even after all these years ............ Barbara McNair - you're gonna love my baby................still has me in bits when I hear it pete Nice one. Has anyone mentioned Barbara Lynn - This is the thanks I get? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Hermanthegerman Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 OK, a little late but got another one ( hope it hasn´t been mentioned before)... Gloria Lynne Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest soulchasers Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 just a great clip of an amazing song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98WxE7cqKjg&feature=related Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Suzannek Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 OK, a little late but got another one ( hope it hasn´t been mentioned before)... Gloria Lynne Yes I love that one too. Suz x Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest stevejan Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 No contest....Please Don't Send Me Away-Garfield Fleming,never fails to bring tears to my eyes!! Thelma Jones Salty Tears Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve W Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 just a couple that have stopped me in my tracks over the years where were you - kim tolliver what can i tell her - jp robinson midnight sunshine - soul children ...j blackfoot going berift on this one teardrops - frankie gearing how was i to know you cared - doris duke.....I am glad jerry williams knows the 2 albums he did with her are revered in this country I cant go on anymore - benny latimore its all in the production and i dont think you could get it nowadays, as rod dearlove said in one article for voices "you gotta sing as though the sky is crying" Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
night nurse Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 this always brings me to tears wow that was so gut renching mate god that brought a big frog to my throat Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
night nurse Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 this always brings me to tears totaly brilliant mate Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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